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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Inquiring Mind on February 22, 2009, 02:18:54 AM
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Bar Refaeli won’t stand under the huppah with her honey, Leonardo DiCaprio, if her father, Rafael Refaeli, has anything to say about it, reports the New York Daily News . Aaron Braunstein, who is promoting “The Brawl at the Wall” boxing match between Israeli and Palestinian fighters July 4, saw Bar’s pop in Jerusalem last week. “He told me that if Leo doesn’t convert to Judaism, there will be no marriage,” he told the New York tabloid. Oy.
http://www.bostonherald.com/track/star_tracks/view/2009_02_17_Will_Leonardo_DiCaprio_have_to_convert_to_Judaism_/
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What do you think, will leonardo convert to judaism?
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No, I don't think he will. Especially after her father gave him this ultimatum. And just to convert for the sake of the marriage makes no sense to me. Be sincere about it or don't do it. Am I wrong to think this way?
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I also don't think that Leonardo will convert to Judaism. Unless, he is in love with her; but I think he enjoys having different models on his arm to suit his ego and image. I think when push comes to shove he will find another.
Hey, I could be wrong, but probably not.
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They shouldn't even have been dating in the first place. Besides if he converts to Judaism he'll just be another one of those leftists Jews making Jewish people look bad so I think it's better for the Jewish people if he doesn't convert to Judaism.
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They shouldn't even have been dating in the first place. Besides if he converts to Judaism he'll just be another one of those leftists Jews making Jewish people look bad so I think it's better for the Jewish people if he doesn't convert to Judaism.
Exactly
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I don't think, but how this thread comes to the JTF? :P
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You guys can have Leonardo, we don't want him anyway.
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I thought he dumped her like 2 years ago ?!
She is a self hating Jewess and even that is in name only. I expect her to convert to Scientology or some other stupid 'faith' down the way.
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I thought he dumped her like 2 years ago ?!
She is a self hating Jewess and even that is in name only. I expect her to convert to Scientology or some other stupid 'faith' down the way.
It's not too far fetched. But I would be surprised if you can name me one Hollywood Jew that isn't self hating.
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Chaim said that converting JUST for the sake of marriage is not a legitimate conversion. And besides.. how Jewish can she be dating a non-Jew?
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I thought he dumped her like 2 years ago ?!
She is a self hating Jewess and even that is in name only. I expect her to convert to Scientology or some other stupid 'faith' down the way.
It's not too far fetched. But I would be surprised if you can name me one Hollywood Jew that isn't self hating.
You are too right :'(
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I know several converts who are sincere in their conversion who originally came to Judaism because they married a Jew. I am not saying that the majority of these kinds of converts are sincere, but I have good reason to believe that it can work out. There are cases of Jews who lost their faith, met a partner, then did Teshuva and had the partner decide if she wanted to convert. I will not condemn any convert because, quite interestingly, last weeks Torah portion "Mishpatim" {which is my Bar Mitzvah portion} contained the mitzvah not to opress the Ger {convert, proselyte} because we {Jews} were strangers in Egypt.
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Muman I agree with you in general. It may very well be that a person convert because he/she wish to marry a Jew but the conversion is sincere non the less. Any conversion that gets approved by the Beit Din I don't dispute.
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I know several converts who are sincere in their conversion who originally came to Judaism because they married a Jew. I am not saying that the majority of these kinds of converts are sincere, but I have good reason to believe that it can work out. There are cases of Jews who lost their faith, met a partner, then did Teshuva and had the partner decide if she wanted to convert. I will not condemn any convert because, quite interestingly, last weeks Torah portion "Mishpatim" {which is my Bar Mitzvah portion} contained the mitzvah not to opress the Ger {convert, proselyte} because we {Jews} were strangers in Egypt.
Muman, I understand what you mean and that does make sense. BUT - would you really take Hollywood loonies like DiCaprio seriously?
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Converts like me have to deal with headaches because of morons like DiCaprio. Currently there is a wide acceptance among the top rabbis in Israel to push for conversion of intermarried couples before they have children. They feel it is better to have the kids in a Jewish environment rather than an alien one, which I agree but to what extent, I'm not sure.
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You never know what can happen. My own mother was a convert to Torah Judaism back in the 1940s. She married my father (he was raised a Torah Jew but got away from it; her conversion brought him back!)
So yes it does happen that the convert can bring the born Jew back.
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Wasn't he a proven, avid anti-semite?
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I agree with Muman and Jewish American Patriot. Sometimes the converts end up brining their spouses, for whom they converted, back to Judaism.
I used to work with a woman who married a non-Jew, who did a Reform conversion. The young man seemed very nice. He even asked her not to do her errands on Saturday. So who knows, he might just become more and more religious, and the wife, who was born Jewish might become more observant as a result.
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Convert because he is marying some woman? I thought the he was gay.
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Wasn't he a proven, avid anti-semite?
Hah, have you seen her? :o
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They shouldn't even have been dating in the first place. Besides if he converts to Judaism he'll just be another one of those leftists Jews making Jewish people look bad so I think it's better for the Jewish people if he doesn't convert to Judaism.
Exactly
right u r
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I know several converts who are sincere in their conversion who originally came to Judaism because they married a Jew. I am not saying that the majority of these kinds of converts are sincere, but I have good reason to believe that it can work out. There are cases of Jews who lost their faith, met a partner, then did Teshuva and had the partner decide if she wanted to convert. I will not condemn any convert because, quite interestingly, last weeks Torah portion "Mishpatim" {which is my Bar Mitzvah portion} contained the mitzvah not to opress the Ger {convert, proselyte} because we {Jews} were strangers in Egypt.
Question: What if one converts in vain and not out of the love of Torah? WOuld an Orthodox rabbi accept it? OTherwise, yes, a true convert should never be opressed. I agree 1000% with this. If one slips through the cracks, so to speak, and we have the knowledge that he for sure converted in vain, how do we treat him properly? surely the rabbis did pontificate on these scenarios in the Talmud.
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If somebody wants convert then the Rabbi must ignore him 2-3 times. The convert is easier, if that somebody has Jewish ancestors.
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If somebody wants convert then the Rabbi must ignore him 2-3 times. The convert is easier, if that somebody has Jewish ancestors.
That's the given advice in the Talmud. Again, it's advice. I wasn't turned away three times, that doesn't make me any less Jewish. The Torah doesn't hold these restrictions.
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If somebody wants convert then the Rabbi must ignore him 2-3 times. The convert is easier, if that somebody has Jewish ancestors.
That's the given advice in the Talmud. Again, it's advice. I wasn't turned away three times, that doesn't make me any less Jewish. The Torah doesn't hold these restrictions.
Do you speak Hebrew ?
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I agree with Muman and Jewish American Patriot. Sometimes the converts end up brining their spouses, for whom they converted, back to Judaism.
I used to work with a woman who married a non-Jew, who did a Reform conversion. The young man seemed very nice. He even asked her not to do her errands on Saturday. So who knows, he might just become more and more religious, and the wife, who was born Jewish might become more observant as a result.
In my mom's case, she converted a few years before she even knew my dad. HE actually had to become Torah observant in order to marry HER! Rabbis were not as strict on that back then, but my mom's rabbi was. He said he would not marry a frum Jew to a Jew that was not frum.
My dad created a lot of stress for my mom years later....he did become more observant, but then as he got older, got it into his head that he wanted to be cremated when he died. NOBODY could talk him out of it; in some ways I think it was his personal "rebellion" against being made to become religious.
But then, about 10 years before he died, I lost a child (the first of a couple, actually.) My dad totally changed....he arranged the burial of my daughter, and then, from that point on, he started saying he wanted to be buried next to her when he died, in the family plot.
What none of us could do to change his mind, a stillborn baby did. This is one reason I believe that when a baby dies before birth or shortly after birth, its soul enters the world just to do a certain mitzvah, then dies because it has done its tikkun. And in this way no birth or death seems wasted. We all serve a purpose, no matetr how long or short our lives are.
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Bar Refaeli is a disgusting log of pig dreck who has openly bragged about dodging the Israeli draft and, when asked about it, said "Why the hell would anyone want to fight for that (meaning Israel)?". She deserves to be buried, not married. Yimach schma to this slut.
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Bar Refaeli is a disgusting log of pig dreck who has openly bragged about dodging the Israeli draft and, when asked about it, said "Why the hell would anyone want to fight for that (meaning Israel)?". She deserves to be buried, not married. Yimach schma to this slut.
Although Bar Rafaeli's behavior is certainly questionable she is first and foremost a Jew. You are not a Jew, don't ever say a Jew deserves to be buried. Take a hike pal, watch your mouth. This is deplorable especially coming from a gentile.
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Bar Refaeli is a disgusting log of pig dreck who has openly bragged about dodging the Israeli draft and, when asked about it, said "Why the hell would anyone want to fight for that (meaning Israel)?". She deserves to be buried, not married. Yimach schma to this slut.
Although Bar Rafaeli's behavior is certainly questionable she is first and foremost a Jew. You are not a Jew, don't ever say a Jew deserves to be buried. Take a hike pal, watch your mouth. This is deplorable especially coming from a gentile.
Nadav, C.F is one of our most valued members and a great supporter of the Jews, as I and all the other Christians on this forum are. I would say that most of the Jews on this forum would agree with what he has to say about her. She is absolutely a self-hating Jew that openly turned against her own people.
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Bar Refaeli is a disgusting log of pig dreck who has openly bragged about dodging the Israeli draft and, when asked about it, said "Why the hell would anyone want to fight for that (meaning Israel)?". She deserves to be buried, not married. Yimach schma to this slut.
Although Bar Rafaeli's behavior is certainly questionable she is first and foremost a Jew. You are not a Jew, don't ever say a Jew deserves to be buried. Take a hike pal, watch your mouth. This is deplorable especially coming from a gentile.
Nadav, C.F is one of our most valued members and a great supporter of the Jews, as I and all the other Christians on this forum are. I would say that most of the Jews on this forum would agree with what he has to say about her. She is absolutely a self-hating Jew that openly turned against her own people.
Listen, no gentile has the right to say a Jew should be buried. Are you Jewish yourself? It's incredible people would even defend this kind of language.
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Bar Refaeli is a disgusting log of pig dreck who has openly bragged about dodging the Israeli draft and, when asked about it, said "Why the hell would anyone want to fight for that (meaning Israel)?". She deserves to be buried, not married. Yimach schma to this slut.
Although Bar Rafaeli's behavior is certainly questionable she is first and foremost a Jew. You are not a Jew, don't ever say a Jew deserves to be buried. Take a hike pal, watch your mouth. This is deplorable especially coming from a gentile.
Nadav, C.F is one of our most valued members and a great supporter of the Jews, as I and all the other Christians on this forum are. I would say that most of the Jews on this forum would agree with what he has to say about her. She is absolutely a self-hating Jew that openly turned against her own people.
Listen, no gentile has the right to say a Jew should be buried. Are you Jewish yourself? It's incredible people would even defend this kind of language.
Nadav, your attack on C.F. is rediculous.
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Nadav, calm down before We have to hose you down...
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Nadav, get used to it... C.F. loves to curse just about everyone on earth. He doesnt care if they are Jew or gentile... This is just the way he is. I am used to it by now..
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Nadav, get used to it... C.F. loves to curse just about everyone on earth. He doesnt care if they are Jew or gentile... This is just the way he is. I am used to it by now..
Indeed, I have realized this whole thing really falls on deaf ears. I don't think even CBP himself could change C.F's attitude so I'll just let him be.
For those who want to continue with this PM me with your thoughts. I won't be posting about it again, it's a waste of time.
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Nadav, get used to it... C.F. loves to curse just about everyone on earth. He doesnt care if they are Jew or gentile... This is just the way he is. I am used to it by now..
Indeed, I have realized this whole thing really falls on deaf ears. I don't think even CBP himself could change C.F's attitude so I'll just let him be.
For those who want to continue with this PM me with your thoughts. I won't be posting about it again, it's a waste of time.
You violated the rules of the forum by launching a personal attack against CF. You are way out of line and you should not be bashing gentile zionists. Bar Refaeli did say that she doesn't understand why people would risk their lives to fight for Israel and she recommended that all the jews there move to New York. She is indeed an evil whore. Chaimfan was right on with his criticism of her. She is the type of scum which is enabling the muzzies to BURY jews.
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I suspect Nadav is from the dog forum.
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I suspect Nadav is from the dog forum.
Or you could call it the mouse trapping forum.
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I suspect Nadav is from the dog forum.
Or you could call it the mouse trapping forum.
Moshe you have a good memory. I also remember the youtube video in which that fat, pig guzzy tortured a poor mouse and called it "jewish activism." He said that the mouse was an anti semite and that "this is what happens to anti semites." What a beast he is for committing tzarbe lechayim and making a joke of real anti semitism. That mouse is was much more righteous than guzzy. I am not sure that Nadav is from that "forum" but he certainly has views not in line with jtf.
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Could you guys stop attacking Nadav please? He already said he'd leave C.F. alone.
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I suspect Nadav is from the dog forum.
Or you could call it the mouse trapping forum.
Moshe you have a good memory. I also remember the youtube video in which that fat, pig guzzy tortured a poor mouse and called it "jewish activism." He said that the mouse was an anti semite and that "this is what happens to anti semites." What a beast he is for committing tzarbe lechayim and making a joke of real anti semitism. That mouse is was much more righteous than guzzy. I am not sure that Nadav is from that "forum" but he certainly has views not in line with jtf.
I actually only saw that video for the first time a few days ago. That's why I mentioned it.
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I actually only saw that video for the first time a few days ago. That's why I mentioned it.
So you're just pretending to have a good memory. I see.... :doctor:
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In any event, murdering an animal like that for no reason is a terrible sin. But Guzzy's being born was a sin.
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In any event, murdering an animal like that for no reason is a terrible sin. But Guzzy's being born was a sin.
The fact that guzzy abuses Rabbi Kahanes name is even a greater sin. Besides, what did that mouse do to him? Was guzzy jealous because the mouse isn't such a fresser like him? And guzzy pretends to be poor, believe me, he has to spend lots of gelt to provide his big belly plenty of nutrition.
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What do you think DownwithIslam? Do you think Guzzy has secretly had an affair with Bar Refaeli?
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If she said (as I'm just now finding out here) "why would anyone want to fight for Israel", then she's a digusting piece of trash. Call me what you want, I don't care... but if that's true, then I'll be praying that she's in a horrible car crash and her face gets so smashed up that she ends up looking uglier than Roseanne Barr. Then her outside will be as ugly as her inside.
By the way, I saw her on Letterman and she came across as very egotistical, dumb and with nothing important to say. Dave asked her how she met Leo and she basically told him to mind his own business. She wasn't even smart enough to evade the answer in a diplomatic way. >:(
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Easy guys there's one good thing from this: :::D
DiCaprio To Convert to Judaism: Arab World 'To Hell With Him' [Goliath 'pan Arabism racism' update]
israelipolicyforum ^ | 02,09
Posted on 24 lutego 2009 09:09:52 by Masti
DiCaprio To Convert to Judaism To Marry Bar: Arab World Says To Hell With Him
Israeli journalist, Guy Bechor, writes on the Israeli website gplanet (Hebrew language) that the Arab world is going crazy over reports that Leonardo DiCaprio is converting to Judaism in order to marry Sports Illustrated cover girl, Bar Rafieli, an Israeli.
The report appeared on Al-Arabiya website and, according to Bechor, is quite vicious. Apparently, Leo is a hero in the Arab world (everyone loved Titanic) but that the combination of his relationship with the Jewish beauty, and his conversion, should it happen) instantly transforms him to dirt in their eyes.
I thought the Arab world had changed? I thought that their objection is only to the occupation not to Israel itself, let alone the Jews.
But now Leo is being attacked the same way Elizabeth Taylor was when she became a Jew 45 years ago and was boycotted by the Arab world. I think she still is.
Anyway, if you know Arabic, read the 144 nasty contacts about Leo (and Bar) in Al Arabiya. It appears that they may hate us. They really do!
But who can hate Leo and Bar?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2192650/posts
I don't hate them rather pity them unlike CF but think it woud better for all of us if they both woud convert to iSSlam or scientology.