Author Topic: Will Leonardo DiCaprio have to convert to Judaism? (Read 7145 times)

Inquiring Mind · « **on:** February 22, 2009, 02:18:54 AM »

Bar Refaeli won’t stand under the huppah with her honey, Leonardo DiCaprio, if her father, Rafael Refaeli, has anything to say about it, reports the New York Daily News . Aaron Braunstein, who is promoting “The Brawl at the Wall” boxing match between Israeli and Palestinian fighters July 4, saw Bar’s pop in Jerusalem last week. “He told me that if Leo doesn’t convert to Judaism, there will be no marriage,” he told the New York tabloid. Oy.

http://www.bostonherald.com/track/star_tracks/view/2009_02_17_Will_Leonardo_DiCaprio_have_to_convert_to_Judaism_/

Inquiring Mind · « **Reply #1 on:** February 22, 2009, 02:20:40 AM »

What do you think, will leonardo convert to judaism?

IsraelForever · « **Reply #2 on:** February 22, 2009, 03:36:00 AM »

No, I don't think he will. Especially after her father gave him this ultimatum. And just to convert for the sake of the marriage makes no sense to me. Be sincere about it or don't do it. Am I wrong to think this way?

ag337 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 22, 2009, 03:43:52 AM »

I also don't think that Leonardo will convert to Judaism. Unless, he is in love with her; but I think he enjoys having different models on his arm to suit his ego and image. I think when push comes to shove he will find another.
Hey, I could be wrong, but probably not.

Rubystars · « **Reply #4 on:** February 22, 2009, 07:43:54 AM »

They shouldn't even have been dating in the first place. Besides if he converts to Judaism he'll just be another one of those leftists Jews making Jewish people look bad so I think it's better for the Jewish people if he doesn't convert to Judaism.

mord · « **Reply #5 on:** February 22, 2009, 07:55:01 AM »

Quote from: Rubystars on February 22, 2009, 07:43:54 AM

They shouldn't even have been dating in the first place. Besides if he converts to Judaism he'll just be another one of those leftists Jews making Jewish people look bad so I think it's better for the Jewish people if he doesn't convert to Judaism.

Exactly

ProudAndZionist · « **Reply #6 on:** February 22, 2009, 07:56:06 AM »

I don't think, but how this thread comes to the JTF?

P J C · « **Reply #7 on:** February 22, 2009, 11:15:04 AM »

You guys can have Leonardo, we don't want him anyway.

Zelhar · « **Reply #8 on:** February 22, 2009, 03:21:55 PM »

I thought he dumped her like 2 years ago ?!

She is a self hating Jewess and even that is in name only. I expect her to convert to Scientology or some other stupid 'faith' down the way.

P J C · « **Reply #9 on:** February 22, 2009, 03:25:30 PM »

Quote from: Zelhar on February 22, 2009, 03:21:55 PM

I thought he dumped her like 2 years ago ?!

She is a self hating Jewess and even that is in name only. I expect her to convert to Scientology or some other stupid 'faith' down the way.

It's not too far fetched. But I would be surprised if you can name me one Hollywood Jew that isn't self hating.

Vito · « **Reply #10 on:** February 22, 2009, 03:27:48 PM »

Chaim said that converting JUST for the sake of marriage is not a legitimate conversion. And besides.. how Jewish can she be dating a non-Jew?

Zelhar · « **Reply #11 on:** February 22, 2009, 03:31:25 PM »

Quote from: ProJewCatholic on February 22, 2009, 03:25:30 PM

Quote from: Zelhar on February 22, 2009, 03:21:55 PM
I thought he dumped her like 2 years ago ?!

She is a self hating Jewess and even that is in name only. I expect her to convert to Scientology or some other stupid 'faith' down the way.
It's not too far fetched. But I would be surprised if you can name me one Hollywood Jew that isn't self hating.

You are too right

muman613 · « **Reply #12 on:** February 22, 2009, 03:48:47 PM »

I know several converts who are sincere in their conversion who originally came to Judaism because they married a Jew. I am not saying that the majority of these kinds of converts are sincere, but I have good reason to believe that it can work out. There are cases of Jews who lost their faith, met a partner, then did Teshuva and had the partner decide if she wanted to convert. I will not condemn any convert because, quite interestingly, last weeks Torah portion "Mishpatim" {which is my Bar Mitzvah portion} contained the mitzvah not to opress the Ger {convert, proselyte} because we {Jews} were strangers in Egypt.

Zelhar · « **Reply #13 on:** February 22, 2009, 04:13:10 PM »

Muman I agree with you in general. It may very well be that a person convert because he/she wish to marry a Jew but the conversion is sincere non the less. Any conversion that gets approved by the Beit Din I don't dispute.

Vito · « **Reply #14 on:** February 22, 2009, 05:40:23 PM »

Quote from: muman613 on February 22, 2009, 03:48:47 PM

I know several converts who are sincere in their conversion who originally came to Judaism because they married a Jew. I am not saying that the majority of these kinds of converts are sincere, but I have good reason to believe that it can work out. There are cases of Jews who lost their faith, met a partner, then did Teshuva and had the partner decide if she wanted to convert. I will not condemn any convert because, quite interestingly, last weeks Torah portion "Mishpatim" {which is my Bar Mitzvah portion} contained the mitzvah not to opress the Ger {convert, proselyte} because we {Jews} were strangers in Egypt.

Muman, I understand what you mean and that does make sense. BUT - would you really take Hollywood loonies like DiCaprio seriously?

Nadav · « **Reply #15 on:** February 22, 2009, 07:04:35 PM »

Converts like me have to deal with headaches because of morons like DiCaprio. Currently there is a wide acceptance among the top rabbis in Israel to push for conversion of intermarried couples before they have children. They feel it is better to have the kids in a Jewish environment rather than an alien one, which I agree but to what extent, I'm not sure.

JewishAmericanPatriot · « **Reply #16 on:** February 22, 2009, 07:17:41 PM »

You never know what can happen. My own mother was a convert to Torah Judaism back in the 1940s. She married my father (he was raised a Torah Jew but got away from it; her conversion brought him back!)

So yes it does happen that the convert can bring the born Jew back.

The One and Only Mo · « **Reply #17 on:** February 22, 2009, 08:51:55 PM »

Wasn't he a proven, avid anti-semite?

Lisa · « **Reply #18 on:** February 22, 2009, 08:57:47 PM »

I agree with Muman and Jewish American Patriot. Sometimes the converts end up brining their spouses, for whom they converted, back to Judaism.

I used to work with a woman who married a non-Jew, who did a Reform conversion. The young man seemed very nice. He even asked her not to do her errands on Saturday. So who knows, he might just become more and more religious, and the wife, who was born Jewish might become more observant as a result.

Confederate Kahanist · « **Reply #19 on:** February 23, 2009, 12:57:00 AM »

Convert because he is marying some woman? I thought the he was gay.

Vito · « **Reply #20 on:** February 23, 2009, 02:24:02 AM »

Quote from: Mo2388 on February 22, 2009, 08:51:55 PM

Wasn't he a proven, avid anti-semite?

Hah, have you seen her?

Dr. Dan · « **Reply #21 on:** February 23, 2009, 12:56:59 PM »

Quote from: mord on February 22, 2009, 07:55:01 AM

Quote from: Rubystars on February 22, 2009, 07:43:54 AM
They shouldn't even have been dating in the first place. Besides if he converts to Judaism he'll just be another one of those leftists Jews making Jewish people look bad so I think it's better for the Jewish people if he doesn't convert to Judaism.
Exactly

right u r

Dr. Dan · « **Reply #22 on:** February 23, 2009, 12:59:53 PM »

Quote from: muman613 on February 22, 2009, 03:48:47 PM

I know several converts who are sincere in their conversion who originally came to Judaism because they married a Jew. I am not saying that the majority of these kinds of converts are sincere, but I have good reason to believe that it can work out. There are cases of Jews who lost their faith, met a partner, then did Teshuva and had the partner decide if she wanted to convert. I will not condemn any convert because, quite interestingly, last weeks Torah portion "Mishpatim" {which is my Bar Mitzvah portion} contained the mitzvah not to opress the Ger {convert, proselyte} because we {Jews} were strangers in Egypt.

Question: What if one converts in vain and not out of the love of Torah? WOuld an Orthodox rabbi accept it? OTherwise, yes, a true convert should never be opressed. I agree 1000% with this. If one slips through the cracks, so to speak, and we have the knowledge that he for sure converted in vain, how do we treat him properly? surely the rabbis did pontificate on these scenarios in the Talmud.

ProudAndZionist · « **Reply #23 on:** February 23, 2009, 01:24:40 PM »

If somebody wants convert then the Rabbi must ignore him 2-3 times. The convert is easier, if that somebody has Jewish ancestors.

Nadav · « **Reply #24 on:** February 23, 2009, 01:45:49 PM »

Quote from: ProudZionist on February 23, 2009, 01:24:40 PM

If somebody wants convert then the Rabbi must ignore him 2-3 times. The convert is easier, if that somebody has Jewish ancestors.

That's the given advice in the Talmud. Again, it's advice. I wasn't turned away three times, that doesn't make me any less Jewish. The Torah doesn't hold these restrictions.