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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: DownwithIslam on July 19, 2007, 02:15:39 AM
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I would personally eliminate every Sandshvartza if I could.
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I would cut off both of my legs with a rusty pocket knife if that's what it took to make muslims disappear.
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Newman, if the self hating Jewish kikes would just decide to fight islam instead of nourishing it, you wouldn't need to cut any part of your body off. All you would have to do is sneaze and the towelheads would be a history topic.
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Would it be better to eliminate all the Muslims, or would it be better to magically eliminate Islam. If Islam were eliminated, nothing even related to it would be able to appear on the earth ever again, but if all the Muslims disappeared, there is a chance that Islam could spread again. If Islam were eliminated, of course these hateful savages would still do barbaric things, but it would definitely take some wind out of their sails. If Islam were allowed to remain a religion, some crazies would still be able to believe in it and spread its hateful ideology.
Then again if all the Muslims in the world disappeared, the chance that Islam would resurrect itself as a "religion" would be slim to nil.
I vote for eliminating all the Muslims and eliminating any trace of Islam. Mohammad and his followers would be wiped off the pages of history and I would choose to spread a religion among the savage where they spend their days worshipping rocks and trees and things.
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If I heard that a Muslim woman was violently raped by a shvartza, i would be happy. I want things to happen in the country that would make muslims run away.
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The arabs had a violent and savage culture long before Mo came on the scene. If no islam it would be some other reason to attack Jews. The prophets have foretold that the enemies of Israel will be wiped out so the world will know who the true G-d is......I like that idea!
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If I heard that a Muslim woman was violently raped by a shvartza, i would be happy. I want things to happen in the country that would make muslims run away.
I'm sure you would.
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If I heard that a Muslim woman was violently raped by a shvartza, i would be happy. I want things to happen in the country that would make muslims run away.
I'm sure you would.
He means the 99.9% bad ones, Sarah.
Not nice girls like you. :)
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If I heard that a Muslim woman was violently raped by a shvartza, i would be happy. I want things to happen in the country that would make muslims run away.
I'm sure you would.
He means the 99.9% bad ones, Sarah.
Not nice girls like you. :)
Well i'm not a muslim so i wouldn't be included. :)
But my mum, sister and every single girl at my school would. That makes already around 252 nice ones.
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I would like to see all Muslims in sandland. Let them live there in peace with their camels, sand, and for the horny ones goats and even sheep.
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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
That's funny, but Sarah's a dear little thing,Go easy Yis'.
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If I heard that a Muslim woman was violently raped by a shvartza, i would be happy. I want things to happen in the country that would make muslims run away.
I'm sure you would.
He means the 99.9% bad ones, Sarah.
Not nice girls like you. :)
Well i'm not a muslim so i wouldn't be included. :)
But my mum, sister and every single girl at my school would. That makes already around 252 nice ones.
Not to justify the comment, but
why do you say that every single girl in your school is a "good one". Didn't you say there are a few girls in your school that go around blaming everything on the Jews?
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Islam will be dealt with by G-d.
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Not to justify the comment, but
why do you say that every single girl in your school is a "good one". Didn't you say there are a few girls in your school that go around blaming everything on the Jews?
Yes, but they have been brought up to say stupid things like this, they are still nice but exceptions disrupt. That cuts it down to around 150.
I spent my day with a couple of friends and one is rejecting sharia completely, shes even begining to question the basic roots of Islam.
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Not to justify the comment, but
why do you say that every single girl in your school is a "good one". Didn't you say there are a few girls in your school that go around blaming everything on the Jews?
Yes, but they have been brought up to say stupid things like this, they are still nice but exceptions disrupt. That cuts it down to around 150.
I spent my day with a couple of friends and one is rejecting sharia completely, shes even begining to question the basic roots of Islam.
Tovia singer and others believe women hold the key to any islamic reformation.
What you and her are doing is commendable, but please be carefull.
Women in islamic communities are often stalked, beaten and raped for thinking for themselves.
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;)This question requires a one word answer....YES!!!
With a birthrate that exceeds cockroaches, for every muslim that leaves islam, thousands more are born into it and begin their brainwashing. With the state of the world today can we afford to wait for muslims to understand that islam is not a religion at all, but a bloodthirsty cult started by a baby raping warlord? I would say we can not.
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Not to justify the comment, but
why do you say that every single girl in your school is a "good one". Didn't you say there are a few girls in your school that go around blaming everything on the Jews?
Yes, but they have been brought up to say stupid things like this, they are still nice but exceptions disrupt. That cuts it down to around 150.
I spent my day with a couple of friends and one is rejecting sharia completely, shes even begining to question the basic roots of Islam.
Tovia singer and others believe women hold the key to any islamic reformation.
What you and her are doing is commendable, but please be carefull.
Women in islamic communities are often stalked, beaten and raped for thinking for themselves.
I don't think its commendable, pretty pathetic, by many standards, but i honestly don't believe there is a severe threat. There are a lot worser things going on then "thinking", its the physical recognizable factors that cause this abuse. Many muslim women/ girls turn into tarty sluts in order to rebel, its disgusting, and they walk down the arab filled high streets with faces plastered with cheap make-up...............they usually get stalked and beaten for this.
You know, a lot of women don't even get told off by their husbands or fathers for not practiscing Islam, the men like to believe they are better and superior. However the main cause is that of questioned loyalty and girls seeing boys, which results in being beaten and abused. Sometimes its the mothers that do it to their daughters.............and culture.
When i was around 9years old i used to be friends with an algerian girl whos father whipped her with a belt and mother hit her with the points of high heeled shoes when she answered them back. Now shes grown up and adopted "black culture", and abuses her parents. It is just a stupid circle for them.
I also remember when i was 11, i was in a Quran lesson and was playing noughts and crosses at my desk. I didn't see the teacher coming up behind me, and she whacked me around the head with the ruler-she used as a weapon-then she grabbed my hand and tried to whack me with the ruler again but i moved it quickly and she ended up hitting her own hand underneath. :D
Stupid Arabs.
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My choice was no...surprise surprise.
1. By definition, by "muslim" do you mean everyone born a Muslim...or do you mean every practicing Muslim?
2. Before Islam, the same Ishmaelites were pagan savages. Now they justify their savagry in Gd's name.
3. What will make the world a better place isn't necessarily a lack of Muslims... What makes the world a better place is the lack of jealousy and envy and evil behavior...whether it be a Muslim, a Jew, a Christian, a Hindu, A white person, a black person, an orange person, a pink person, a blue person, a Martian, or a Sri Lankan etc etc etc.
So even without Muslims, you don't solve the problem of evil. Where one evil group is eliminated, another one will arise against us. Better remove the ideologies which create evil, jealous, envious people!
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;)This question requires a one word answer....YES!!!
With a birthrate that exceeds cockroaches, for every muslim that leaves islam, thousands more are born into it and begin their brainwashing. With the state of the world today can we afford to wait for muslims to understand that islam is not a religion at all, but a bloodthirsty cult started by a baby raping warlord? I would say we can not.
So what do you believe to be a methodical solution?
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"black culture", and abuses her parents. It is just a stupid circle for them.
IS SHE A BLACK MOSLEM AIYISHA XXXXX ;D ;D ;D
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I agree completely with Dannycookie57.
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"I also remember when i was 11, i was in a Quran lesson and was playing noughts and crosses at my desk. I didn't see the teacher coming up behind me, and she whacked me around the head with the ruler-she used as a weapon-then she grabbed my hand and tried to whack me with the ruler again but i moved it quickly and she ended up hitting her own hand underneath.
Stupid Arabs. "
You're a treasure!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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My choice was no...surprise surprise.
1. By definition, by "muslim" do you mean everyone born a Muslim...or do you mean every practicing Muslim?
2. Before Islam, the same Ishmaelites were pagan savages. Now they justify their savagry in Gd's name.
3. What will make the world a better place isn't necessarily a lack of Muslims... What makes the world a better place is the lack of jealousy and envy and evil behavior...whether it be a Muslim, a Jew, a Christian, a Hindu, A white person, a black person, an orange person, a pink person, a blue person, a Martian, or a Sri Lankan etc etc etc.
So even without Muslims, you don't solve the problem of evil. Where one evil group is eliminated, another one will arise against us. Better remove the ideologies which create evil, jealous, envious people!
I think this is a very good point. Evil is contained, once a shell is cracked open and destroyed, the tool for representing this evil may be destroyed but it isn't itself entirely removed.
I don't understand number two.
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"black culture", and abuses her parents. It is just a stupid circle for them.
IS SHE A BLACK MOSLEM AIYISHA XXXXX ;D ;D ;D
Actually her name is Sukaina and shes quite dark but not black. :)
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I agree completely with Dannycookie57.
I have to say, "be careful" to everyone here. You cannot pin evil on just one group or one ideology. There are a very many groups who will loved to see us disappear. I'm not trying to be politically correct even though it sounds like I am being that way.
But if we are going to win these wars, unless it is another nation that is fighting with us, we need to pin the very evil actions and behaviors and call those things out..not the color of one's skin or even their religion.
Albiet, we know Islam is very bad when it is practiced the way it should be practiced. Some practice Islam incorrectly..and therefore, some of those Muslims are not anti=West or anti-Israel (very few mind you). It is these things which we need to point out.
And we know that a lot of things in black culture is bad..but some white people do the bad things of the black culture. We need to point out at these actions and be mindful when grouping large quantities of people within a culture.
Remember, Gd destroys Sodom in Gemmorah because there wasn't a single person other than Lot and his family that was a decent person..that's like less than .1%!!! Remember it is 5% of the black community that isn't evil..and that's a larger number.
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My choice was no...surprise surprise.
1. By definition, by "muslim" do you mean everyone born a Muslim...or do you mean every practicing Muslim?
2. Before Islam, the same Ishmaelites were pagan savages. Now they justify their savagry in Gd's name.
3. What will make the world a better place isn't necessarily a lack of Muslims... What makes the world a better place is the lack of jealousy and envy and evil behavior...whether it be a Muslim, a Jew, a Christian, a Hindu, A white person, a black person, an orange person, a pink person, a blue person, a Martian, or a Sri Lankan etc etc etc.
So even without Muslims, you don't solve the problem of evil. Where one evil group is eliminated, another one will arise against us. Better remove the ideologies which create evil, jealous, envious people!
I think this is a very good point. Evil is contained, once a shell is cracked open and destroyed, the tool for representing this evil may be destroyed but it isn't itself entirely removed.
I don't understand number two.
Before Islam, there must have been other religions in the Arabian region. FOr the most part, the Arab people are decendents of Ishmael, the half brother of Issac, who, with Jacob, became the Jewish people.
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"Before Islam, there must have been other religions in the Arabian region. FOr the most part, the Arab people are decendents of Ishmael, the half brother of Issac, who, with Jacob, became the Jewish people."
.........And God said he'd be an ass who would fight everybody and be hated. Wasn't that the truth?
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"Before Islam, there must have been other religions in the Arabian region. FOr the most part, the Arab people are decendents of Ishmael, the half brother of Issac, who, with Jacob, became the Jewish people."
.........And G-d said he'd be an ass who would fight everybody and be hated. Wasn't that the truth?
I don't know the exact words, but Ishmael and his decendents were wild childs...molesters...However, Gd made a promise to Abraham that he would make his offspring a multitude...therefore, i know that the IShmaelites will never disappear. Bear in mind, the wildness of an Ishmaelite is simply an action which needs to be tamed and recommended as evil...so it's not the Arab/Ishmaelite...it's the evil behavior
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Yes, I would like to see the Arabs and Persians convert to a modern, secular belief system.
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Yes, I would like to see the Arabs and Persians convert to a modern, secular belief system.
I prefer that they be religious and men/women of Gd...but righteous instead of evil.
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Yes, I would like to see the Arabs and Persians convert to a modern, secular belief system.
I prefer that they be religious and men/women of Gd...but righteous instead of evil.
There aren't many options.
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Yes, I would like to see the Arabs and Persians convert to a modern, secular belief system.
I prefer that they be religious and men/women of Gd...but righteous instead of evil.
There aren't many options.
Sarah, why don't you annonymously leave some noachide literature around the place?
You could be the "phantom noachide".
Everybody would say "the phantom noachide has struck again!" ;)
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Sarah the question posed was not HOW we would, but IF we could would we, which I answered. As to how well thats not easy, it would be lovely to wave a magic wand and just break the spell of islam, but thats not going to happen. Perhaps it would be a start for western countries to break their dependence on oil, that would cut off the money needed for the jihad, secondly civilized western countries could also remove the label of "religion" from islam making it easier to fight, less people would be worried about offending a religion that way. What IS making it easier are the daily images we see of islamic terror which havent left much of the world untouched, its getting harder and harder to sell that old tried and true "religion of peace" or "tiny minority of extremists" BS anymore. The world is awakening.
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Sarah the question posed was not HOW we would, but IF we could would we, which I answered. As to how well thats not easy, it would be lovely to wave a magic wand and just break the spell of islam, but thats not going to happen. Perhaps it would be a start for western countries to break their dependence on oil, that would cut off the money needed for the jihad, secondly civilized western countries could also remove the label of "religion" from islam making it easier to fight, less people would be worried about offending a religion that way. What IS making it easier are the daily images we see of islamic terror which havent left much of the world untouched, its getting harder and harder to sell that old tried and true "religion of peace" or "tiny minority of extremists" BS anymore. The world is awakening.
That is true, i saw your previous post, i just wanted to ask you another question. However removing the label of religion in context seems almost impossible as it has been consider one for a couple of centuries so far.
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As far as solutions to islam go, heres mine. The most effective and practical way to defeat islam is this: Find the most infuential islamic countries (ones that have the most resources, stature and power) in the middle east. These are countries like Turkey, Iran and Egypt and turn them (by any means necessary) into secular democratic governments. I don't include Saudi Arabia in these because it would be too hard to change that government through direct confrontation. Once these key countries leave the islamic ummah, Islam will have a much harder time finding support for jihad. Already Turkey is doing this. I have a feeling that in a few years Turkey will be strictly secular. The people in the more minor islamic countries will see what a difference secularism brings, and will want there own governments to adopt democracy as well. One by one, they will give up political islam of their own accord. I know that back in the 70s the Shah of Iran constantly persuaded other islamic powers to leave Israel alone in return for other favors. I think you will notice that once Iran fell to islamic extremism, Jihad became a much more serious issue for israel and the west. Just my 2 cents...
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Old Israeli saying...." you can't teach a monkey to speak....you can't make an arab a democrat"
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The only problem is that everytime muslims are given the opportunity to vote they vote in extreme terror parties....look at the "elected officials"...hamas...amadinanutjob...even turkey could lose its secular standing.
It may not be easy, but not impossible at least in the US. The koran and the US Constitution are not compatible, the koran does not allow for equal opportunity, freedom, and secular values as enshrined in the Constitution. The US Constitution promotes a progressive civilization while the koran promotes total submission with no freedom of thought or will to an ideology. The Constitution also provides freedom of religion (where removing the label of "religion" would come in handy) BUT also freedom FROM religion which prevents that barbaric sharia crap from taking us all over, there will never be a "blasphomy" law with regards to islam, nor will leaving islam ever result in a death sentence here (not an official one but I know firsthand that muslims try to carry out their own justice even here as I have a friend who left and her father and brothers said they would spend every ounce of energy and money to find her and kill her)
So its not likely, but who knows.
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Years ago, Chaim once mentioned a Muslim family in St. Louis, MO. The father was involved with Yasser Arafat, and thus the house was under video surveillance by the government. This husband and his Brazilian born wife had one daughter, who decided to take a part time job at Burger King, against the wishes of her father.
Anyway, the girl came home one day where her parents grabbed her. The mother held her down while the father repeatedly stabbed her, while yelling "Die my daughter, die!" This was all caught on tape.
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Years ago, Chaim once mentioned a Muslim family in St. Louis, MO. The father was involved with Yasser Arafat, and thus the house was under video surveillance by the government. This husband and his Brazilian born wife had one daughter, who decided to take a part time job at Burger King, against the wishes of her father.
Anyway, the girl came home one day where her parents grabbed her. The mother held her down while the father repeatedly stabbed her, while yelling "Die my daughter, die!" This was all caught on tape.
>:( :( Burger king........?!?!?!?!?!?!
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My friend came home at the age of 17 from school to find a 50 yr old man from india (where her parents are from, she was born in the US..and yes they are muslim not hindu) sitting in her living room, she was introduced to him and informed that they had arranged this marriage for her (she later found out that her father owed this man a debt, AND that she was to be his 4th wife) so she ran away, her brother managed to find her (but she got away from him) and told her that they would spend every penny and every ounce of energy to find and kill her for bringing "shame" to the family (lol I guess killing your sister/daughter doesnt bring shame, lovely >:()...unfortunately the police couldnt help her, but she moved from the west coast to the east coast and managed to elude them. I met her when she was 27, so 10 years later and the poor girl was still looking over her shoulder. Happy ending, she met and married a great guy from south america and is now living safely there.
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We've had muslims in Australia throw gas on their daughters and light them up over having a boyfriend. They're savages who have no place in the west.
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Wow a lot went on since I started this. There is no reason why anyone would try and distance themselves from my comment. There should not be a single person who disagrees with me on this.
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I certainly don't disagree with you.
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Wow a lot went on since I started this. There is no reason why anyone would try and distance themselves from my comment. There should not be a single person who disagrees with me on this.
once again to clarify you...by muslim do you mean someone born a muslim but doesn't practice and is a righteous person...or by muslim do you mean an islamic person who practices islam?
I think a world without Islam would have not necessarily made things better for the world because the enemies were are dealing with are jealous, envious evil people no matter the religion they were following. Not only has the Koran made them retarded, but they are also jealous envious people...My answer to you is that making muslims or islam disappear will not make things better... HOwever, eliminating jealousy and envy and evil will.
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They have less regard for life than sharks or crocodiles. Even sharks protect their young.
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Coming from a Muslim country, which for 70 years had been a part of Soviet Union, where everything and everyone associated with religion was banned, I can say that the problem is not with the people calling themselves Muslims, but with Islam.
Ban Islam, and Muslims will become secular.
It is important to note though that they will never convert, but will choose to be either “secular Muslims” or atheists.
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As an example I can bring the fact that the president of Azerbaijan, the second largest Shiite Muslim country, but yet mostly secular, lights up a minorah on every Hanukkah.
As a legacy of the Soviet Union's atheist culture, it is generally shameful to be a "true Muslim" there.
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Coming from a Muslim country, which for 70 years had been a part of Soviet Union, where everything and everyone associated with religion was banned, I can say that the problem is not with the people calling themselves Muslims, but with Islam.
Ban Islam, and Muslims will become secular.
It is important to note though that they will never convert, but will choose to be either “secular Muslims” or atheists.
you know, i wonder whether being secular or athiest is any better than Islam...I'm unhappy with Islam, but even unhappier with atheism. I would rather be around people who believe in Gd than dont' believe in anything...
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Could they become fundamentalist due to poverty or arab influence?
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Could they become fundamentalist due to poverty or arab influence?
I am not sure about Arab influence, even though it is an important factor, but poverty is more serious.
But even more than that, the strongest factor producing a constant Islamization of the so called "moderate Muslim" countries, is the reaction of the conservative segment of the population to demoralization of their society.
Many Muslims do realize that Islam is too insane for a normal human being; however they also understand that as soon as they embrace the principles of a Western democracy, they (Muslims) will experience a very high level of immorality in the society. Thus they are not ready to pay the cost of being “free”.
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The worst excesses of Islam still seem to be found in the arab countries
It does seem strange that they would rather be oppressed by muftis than put up with girlie-bars and strip shows.
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The worst excesses of Islam still seem to be found in the arab countries
It does seem strange that they would rather be oppressed by muftis than put up with girlie-bars and strip shows.
That is very right! Freedom that is represented by semi-naked girls with green and pink hair walking in the center of their cities is no longer freedom to them, but anarchy.
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By the way, a couple of terms here.
Many people mistakenly believe that democratic freedom is defined as the right to do whatever you want.
But that is not so! The right to do anything you want is not freedom, it is anarchy.
So what is freedom then?
It is the right not to do what you don’t want to do.
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That's so correct. I am not a pious man, but I still believe the Victorian era was the high point of western civilisation. Morality was held up as a virtue and there were standards. Sure there were brothels hidden down dide streets and so on, but immorality occured out of sight . It did not occur in full view. Depravity was not condoned or encouraged, it was curtailed. as opposed to today where there are no standards at all.