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Title: Cornel West
Post by: Barach Velvel ben Lazer Eliazer on September 15, 2007, 08:05:37 PM
Have you ever seen a bigger loud mouth idiot than "Professor" Cornel West of, get this, Princeton University?

Watching this ebonics-speaking jerk on Bill Maher a week ago got me incredibly angry. The fact that such an ignorant person could be a professor in such a prestigous university makes me sick. His views of the US and its people (whites) is the usual prespective of your typical street/ghetto black, who's all about wanting rights without earning a single one. He screamed about the black this and the black man that. Why doesn't someone at Princeton tell this peanut brain moron that his people are a bunch of savages who commit rape, murder and robbery every three seconds.

What is our overwhelming obsession with giving a soapbox and millions to these near-retarded apes who contribute nothing but bulk in our prisons. Why doesn't somebody get a hint that these people simply cannot live among us. This arrangement isn't working out. If there's a wild animal roaming around nearby, what do you do? Exactly, call animal control to take it away. Why can't we have some sort of organization like that? Well, actually we do, but, unfortunately, we have to wait until one these gorillas shoots someone for them to come.

We need to stop giving these anti-semites money. It's doing nothing. Absolutely nothing.

Yes, we did enslave them, but guess what? If we didn't they would've never ended up in US in the first place. So if they're so unhappy they can go back any time.

Yes, it's true, some are smart, but that's only because they've living among us for so long, sometimes things rub off on them. But has one ever invented something? No, rap and regae don't count.
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 15, 2007, 08:18:02 PM
I have already given my opinion on this issue elsewhere in this forum.
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: TheCoon on September 15, 2007, 08:42:43 PM
He's a proponent of the idiotic notion that all human civilization started in Africa and that blacks in Africa are the "real geniuses" as Chaim would say. He also works with that crazy fake rabbi Michael Learner.
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: Hail Columbia on September 15, 2007, 08:55:18 PM
Cornel West is quite literally an affirmative action professor.
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: Barach Velvel ben Lazer Eliazer on September 15, 2007, 09:00:17 PM
He's a proponent of the idiotic notion that all human civilization started in Africa and that blacks in Africa are the "real geniuses" as Chaim would say. He also works with that crazy fake rabbi Michael Learner.
All that was started in Africa is AIDS and the HIV virus, from these inhuman savages having sex with apes. They also started the terrific trend of eating their own stool. What a fabulous people. How productive. Surely, blacks are responsible for Einstein's revolutionary theories and Thomas Edison's invention of today's electronic devices, according to Cornel West.
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: decimos on September 15, 2007, 09:09:24 PM
they do pick excellent cotton!!! sorry i couldnt resist.
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on September 15, 2007, 09:15:25 PM
West is a notorious "shuck & jive" shake-down artist who has been seen more than once with his "personal assistant" [very young blonde blue-eyed white girl] traveling with him on the road when he "lectures".

More sickening than "Professor" West himself, are the large crowds of insane liberal Jews showing up for his lectures; nodding their heads in "agreement" with every line of monkey jibberish he spews out!
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 15, 2007, 09:18:11 PM
wow.  Until I went onto this forum, I thought I did not like Black people.  Yet compared to some people here, I am practically a soul brother myself!  I wonder how Erica puts up with us bigots.
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: Daniel on September 16, 2007, 09:43:00 AM
Cornell West came to my college one time. After his speech, I asked him a question about why it is that there is so much fighting and tension between blacks and Jews where both of us have a history of slavery and being persecuted and discriminated against and why we don't have more sympathy and form alliances with each other. I couldn't understand about 90% of his  speak in his response. But basically, what I picked up on and what I remember is that Jews and blacks both came here as the underdog. The Jews became the top dog, but that the blacks are still the underdog, and that this causes resentment and envy.
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: MarZutra on September 16, 2007, 09:44:53 AM
I hate "Dr." Cornell West. I wish this piece of [censored] would move to Cuba.  He and his propaganda with Chumpsky and Ward Churchill (and all of their like) are a blight to academia in its entirety...
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: RationalThought110 on September 16, 2007, 09:53:51 AM
Harvard, Princeton, Yale, etc., are part of the education establishment and are probably part of CFR.  If you ever read about the history of those institutions, you'd realize that they're crazy.
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: Daniel on September 16, 2007, 10:04:44 AM
I hate "Dr." Cornell West. I wish this piece of excrement would move to Cuba.  He and his propaganda with Chumpsky and Ward Churchill (and all of their like) are a blight to academia in its entirety...

Yeah, perhaps Cuba can become the "Planet Chomsky" that Dershowitz often mentions in his debates with Chomsky.
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on September 16, 2007, 10:06:57 AM
Re:  "...I wish this piece of excrement would move to Cuba..."

Marzutra, what makes you think that Castro would have him?

Even Castro is not that crazy!
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: MarZutra on September 16, 2007, 10:12:26 AM
Well he did accept Danny Glover recently but perhaps you are right...  maybe Venesula would?  Then again, under their Communist ideology the facts seem to dictate that it is only good for those very few like Castro, Arafag, Stalin, Mao etc.   Sorry.... you're right...lol 

Perhaps they might be rounded up and placed on that Northern Island where the Russians conduct their Thermonuclear testing......  or Gaza?
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on September 16, 2007, 10:19:54 AM
Re:  "...Perhaps they might be rounded up and placed on that Northern Island..."

I think "Uncle Joe" Stalin demonstrated the right method when he rounded up all of his top army officers, locked them up (packed like sardines) in a ship on the water, and then sunk the ship!

Such a "terrible disaster".
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: Joe Schmo on September 16, 2007, 10:31:25 AM
wow.  I thought I did not like Black people.  Yet compared to some people here, I am practically a soul brother myself!  I wonder how Erica puts up with us bigots.

Who cares?
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: MarZutra on September 16, 2007, 10:40:57 AM
wow.  Until I went onto this forum, I thought I did not like Black people.  Yet compared to some people here, I am practically a soul brother myself!  I wonder how Erica puts up with us bigots.
Who is a bigot here?  I'm sorry brother but one is not lumping all blacks, or any peoples, in one catagory but separating the filthy portions of each and talking about them.  That is not bigotry nor is it "racism".  I like Black people, I like Arabs, I like Asians etc. what I cannot stand is the filth of those communities be it those who promulgate "Urban culture" or Communist drek....this is not bigotry or racism.  Perhaps I've misunderstood your comment, if so I do apologize...
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 16, 2007, 01:38:23 PM
When I say that some of us here are bigots, I honestly do not have anybody in particular in mind.  Yet I do seem to recall people comparing Blacks to apes with thick monkey lips, to baboons, and so on.

I think this is not only counterproductive, but plays right into the hands of the very kind of Black that does so much harm to our society.  I am talking here about the rap hip hop, chip on the shoulder, angry ghetto, ebonics, Jesse Jackson, hold-up-liquor-stores, Al Sharpton, burn down cities because of disagreeable court decisions, type of Blacks. 

What these Blacks are, are essentially lazy.  Rather than work hard to achieve something meaningful in life, they take the easy way out, which is to give into their lowest animal impulses, and then blame whitey for all of their problems.

By calling them monkeys and apes and saying that they are hopelessly inferior to us white people, we are in effect giving them permission to continue their abhorrent, destructive behavior.

See, the Black problem is a bit different than the moslem problem.  There really is no such thing as a moderate moslem, because islam in itself is an extreme ideology of intolerance, hatred, violence, murder, death, and destruction.  Therefore the only way to solve the islamofascist problem is to kill off all of their active terrorists, and somehow educate the rest of them to no longer be moslems.  Perhaps Ann Coulter can convert all of them to Christianity.

But with Blacks, I think there can be hope.  All we need to do is somehow make it much more popular and in style for Blacks to be more like Clarence Thomas and Walter Williams, rather than tupac shakur or damien football williams.
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: MarZutra on September 16, 2007, 03:51:56 PM
Ok, Now I see where you are coming from.  I think that most of the members are not bigots but really tired of being continually exposed to the constant rationalizing, excusing and justfying of black "culture" and their deeds.  I too feel that most here believe that people must follow some basic moral code to be elevated to a "human" status over and above a mere animal.  A good example of this is a person, of any race, raping, robbing, looting, or murdering.  These are actions of an animal, not that of a human.  As the purpose of Torah laws is to elevate the man above the animal and to display moral humane traits. 

You are right in what you say.  Thanks for the clearification.  Frankly speaking, I am one who is very tired of this entire subject and believe it was an unjust vote to not compensate the Blacks for slavery and send them all back to Africa.  We've been paying a heavy price ever since in my opinion. 

Ps: There are two good books, one of the Left and one of the Right on this particular subject that you will enjoy: "The Naked Ape" and "Race Evolution and Behavor" - J. Phillip Rushton... ;)
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 16, 2007, 05:41:13 PM
The Naked Ape by Demond Morris is one of the most mind-opening books I have ever read in my entire life. 

Let me tell you about this.  I have a Bachelor's and Master's Degree in Psychology (I also have a Bachelor's Degree in English).  I studied very hard in those days, graduating with honors, rarely receiving anything less than an A grade in most of my classes.

And yet, I feel I have learned more about human nature from that one book by Desmond Morris (along with its sequel, The Human Zoo) than I did in all my years of formally studying psychology.  Desmond Morris is a British zoologist (his father is Jewish, but I am still not sure about his mother) who writes like a novelist.  I was reading those books as if they were some kind of who dunnit mystery novel, excitedly turning the pages, learning so much from him.

Getting back to the admittedly tiresome subject of Blacks, I really do have ambivalent feelings toward them.  To this day, I do not know if I am a true racist or not.  One thing for sure: because I am definitely NOT politically correct by any stretch of the imagination, our mainstream liberal culture of today would definitely label me a racist.

America is a wonderful country, arguably the best that has ever inhabited the Earth.  Yet it has made many mistakes; I think its biggest mistake of all, was bringing Blacks over here.  Had they come on their own accord, in much smaller amounts at a time, they would not be the white man's burden that they have turned out to be.

I have to say, that while I do believe that Blacks have the inherent ability to be just as civilized, positive contributors to society as do White people, that their behavior has generally left a lot to be desired.  Just to give you one dramatic example of this, back in 1992 here in Los Angeles, some white policeman chased down a Black man named Rodney King who was clearly high on drugs.  Because he not only made them chase after him but even resisted, they beat him with their batons pretty severely.

The policeman were brought up on charges, and I think that their case was heard in Simi Valley, which is a suburb of Los Angeles, a very safe, predominantly white neighborhood where a high percentage of policeman live.  The jury found the policeman not guilty of all charges.

In response, Blacks and then other minority groups followed suit, in basically trashing the entire city of Los Angeles.  Approximately 55 people were murdered, businesses were burned down, and there was rioting on the streets everywhere.  People were even pulled from their trucks and cars, and beat up, just for having White skin.

I was outraged when I heard liberals justify what was done, as if it is somehow okay to destroy a city because of a questionable court decision.  I have to contrast this with the case of Yankel Rosenblum.

Most of you know this, so this is for those who do not.  The leader of the most well-known Chassidic movement in Judaism, a man known as the Lubavitcher Rebbe, or simply the Rebbe, had gone to visit his wife's grave in Crown Heights.  On the ride back, his driver thought he could make a changing yellow light, and tried to ram through that intersection.  Out of sheer carelessness, he hit a little Black boy riding a bicycle. 

The Hatzalah, which is a voluntary group of Jews who help out emergency medical situations just like this one, were immediately called, but it was too late.  The boy had died.

In response, Blacks not only started rioting in Crown Heights, but murdered a young Australian Jewish student who had happened to be walking not far from the scene.  This student, Yankel Rosenblum, pointed to and identified his murderer right before he died, and the blood on the knife matched that of both Yankel and the murderer.  Yet the murderer was found not guilty of any physical assault at all, only convicted for illegal weapons possession.

So how did the Jewish community react?  I can tell you one thing: we did not proceed to trash Harlem or some other Black section of New York.  We Jews are too busy building up society to have any desire to destroy it. 

Meanwhile, Blacks engage in riots all the time in sub-saharan Africa, where nobody is enslaving them or dominating over them.  Apparently, there is something in the Black psyche that makes them love to engage in the destruction of civilization.  In that way, they do at least echo the behavior of the islamofascists.

For all the positive contributions that Blacks have made to American life, I have to be honest and say that if given a choice, I would have much rather they have never come here in the first place.


Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: MarZutra on September 16, 2007, 11:46:34 PM
A very good post JTB, to which I agree whole heartedly.  So you have a Masters degree in Philosophy.  I was reading a very good book about the history of Philosophy which lays its base to the study of disproving or negating religion and replacing G-d with the Humanist and quest for knowledge.  You probably would enjoy Oswald Spengler's "Decline of the West" or even, from a far different ideological position, Manley P. Hall's "The Secret Teachings of All Ages".

I've read a bit on this but no where near as you I'm sure.  I've attained a BCom and two Master's degrees in Political Science/Public Admin and an MBA.  Much was useless and vastly one sided learnings to be quite honest.  An example would be that Karl Marx contributed greatly to economics while never being taught anything about his personal life, political beliefs nor the near total disproving the entirety of Das Kapital.  Another would be the same for Keynesian Economics.  I'm sure that even my professors didn't examine him as a Homosexual member of the Fabian Socialist Society whose entire economic structure/ideology was based on the desire to spread socialism and debase a nations economic system. 

Oh, I could go on but, what's the point.  I agree with you brother with the tiresome topic of shvartzas.  To be 100% honest I must tell you that, prior to the twisting of the definition of "Racism" by the Socialist/propandists Leftists for pure political purposes from being solely the belief, as coined in the mid 1800's, "The belief that one's race, your race, is superior to another's" to something totally factually incorrect being: "Hating one on the basis of race" is a true molestation of historical fact and revisionist history.  Factually "Racism" is not a negative ideology in the least but only via the Communist/Socialist movement and the "politically correct" media has made it thus. 

Personally, I believe that J. Phillip Rushon's book is much to be desired.  Although I do not agree with his findings to its entirety, I do, however, agree that because blacks, in general, have a very low IQ, it is their stupidity that has not allowed them the ability to become creative and productive which is why they have never progressed passed the hunter gatherer mentality dating back to the stone age.  His findings that blacks, by and large, act exactly the same in Africa as they do in Paris, London, Toronto, New York or Haiti.  As do Asians, Arabs, and Whites.  So there is some truth to that adage: "You can take the black out of the jungle but you cannot take the jungle out of the black."   
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 17, 2007, 12:06:40 AM
I have a master's degree in psychology, not philosophy.  The two fields are humanistically oriented, but are still two very different disciplines.

I deliberately never studied economics at a university, because I do not want my mind to be corrupted by their glorification of socialism and debasement of capitalism.  I would rather just read popular books on economics from people I trust, such as Adam Smith, Milton Friedman, and Thomas Sowell.

The book you mentioned about Blacks reminds me of the controversial book published a few years ago, Richard Hernstein's The Bell Curve.  It is one of those books that I should have read but have not.  One thing I heard about it is that it says that Blacks more than any other group have the highest percentage of people with IQ's below the average score of 100.  In other context, I remember reading how Eastern European Jews have IQ's seventeen points higher than Mediterranean Jews.

William Shockley, who I think won the Nobel Prize for some technical radio device, suggested something years ago, which he was vilified for, but to this day I think he made a good point.  It is not that Blacks are less intelligent than Whites; it is that the Blacks with lower intelligence, are the ones who tend to have the most children.  In other words, to try to deny that Blacks are less intelligent than Whites, accomplishes nothing; but to admit it, and then somehow try to figure out a way to encourage smarter Blacks to have more children and dumber Blacks to have less, may be a real solution to the problem.
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: MarZutra on September 17, 2007, 12:19:07 AM
Sorry, my mistake.  Yes, I remember reading that somewhere.  I think the average IQ of an African black is 70 while the average American, British or Canadian is 73-75 while the average White was 100 in Europe and 99 in the West.  I think that the Ashkenaz Jew placed 115 in Europe and 110 in America but may be wrong.  I do know that Wikipedia, hardly a bastion of "Right Wing" extremism said similar as well if they hadn't taken it down already for being "racist" or not "politically correct".

I totally understand your views on economics.  Very true.  One of my teachers who looked like Karl Marx was convicted of having homosexual acts with a child.  Another one of my professors was an Arab man who was fired WITH PAY for publishing a paper about if a man goes to a bar and buys a woman drinks and she returns to his house and she says no, he is entitled to have sexual relations with her as she owes him that for both the drinks and leading him on...  This is the quality of teachers here.

My friend John quit Brock University's eduation program due to his professors being out right communists.  Him being a Zionist Christian didn't go over well.  One professor told the students that it was acceptable to have sexual relations with an animal so long as the animal doesn't mind.  Another one said that "It takes a village to raise a child" and much more of the like.  Canada is finnished as a nation my friend.....  Spengler was right "Decline of the West".

PS: I remember I had to take one Psychology course.  It was an evening course, one night per week and 3 hours long.  Dr. H. Lautard.  We called him Dr. Retard.  He was so dry and boring that I got kicked out of class when the fellow in front of me was sound asleep with drule from his shirt to his lip and snoring like fred flintstone...
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 17, 2007, 12:58:15 AM
Your comments are both funny and sad.  Did you by any chance ever hear of a radio talk show host named Dennis Prager?  He is based here in Los Angeles, so I do not know if his show reaches all the way to Canada.

In any case, one of his major themes that he keeps coming back to, is the absurd practice of parents working day and night to support their families so that one day, they can pay a life's fortune to send their children off to prestigious universities who will then instruct those same children to rebel against any traditional values the parents stand for. 

He also has remarked how people very rarely ask each other what college they attended.  How successful one is in one's career has much more to do with the individual person, than with what college they attended.  He therefore recommends choosing a college based on its financial cost, rather than prestige.

Obviously, this does not apply when considering a medical school or law school.  In such cases, the prestige of the university really does make a difference.  But in just about any other field, a state university is just as good, if not better, than the best of Ivy League schools.
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: Barach Velvel ben Lazer Eliazer on September 17, 2007, 03:42:44 AM
When I say that some of us here are bigots, I honestly do not have anybody in particular in mind.  Yet I do seem to recall people comparing Blacks to apes with thick monkey lips, to baboons, and so on.

I think this is not only counterproductive, but plays right into the hands of the very kind of Black that does so much harm to our society.  I am talking here about the rap hip hop, chip on the shoulder, angry ghetto, ebonics, Jesse Jackson, hold-up-liquor-stores, Al Sharpton, burn down cities because of disagreeable court decisions, type of Blacks. 

What these Blacks are, are essentially lazy.  Rather than work hard to achieve something meaningful in life, they take the easy way out, which is to give into their lowest animal impulses, and then blame whitey for all of their problems.

By calling them monkeys and apes and saying that they are hopelessly inferior to us white people, we are in effect giving them permission to continue their abhorrent, destructive behavior.

See, the Black problem is a bit different than the moslem problem.  There really is no such thing as a moderate moslem, because islam in itself is an extreme ideology of intolerance, hatred, violence, murder, death, and destruction.  Therefore the only way to solve the islamofascist problem is to kill off all of their active terrorists, and somehow educate the rest of them to no longer be moslems.  Perhaps Ann Coulter can convert all of them to Christianity.

But with Blacks, I think there can be hope.  All we need to do is somehow make it much more popular and in style for Blacks to be more like Clarence Thomas and Walter Williams, rather than tupac shakur or damien football williams.
That's why they are animals. Animals need to be fed, correct? Well, we feed them. We feed them everything. We feed them billions of dollars each month, including the ones in Africa, and they spend it just as well as an animal could. We also took them here in the 1600's. Yes, we enslaved them, but that's also the reason they're here. We've also given them all the special privileges to the point were they have an even sweeter deal than us. And most of them can't even speak proper English, so I'm able to understand them as much as I can an ape. All I here is loud noises. Heck, they can't even get along with us. There's no level of communication with them, even if you speak to them in ebonics.  Yes, when they attack us like wild animals we lock them in cages, and we have plenty of cages full of these beasts. Most of the cages in America are filled with these creatures. So we feed them and lock them in cages when they're bad. Sounds like a good comparison to animals, if you ask me.

They have failed as a people, and they're destroying America because of their failure.
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: MarZutra on September 17, 2007, 08:12:17 AM
Sadly Velvill, what you say has a lot of truth.  I personally feel that slavery was the greatest mistake in American history.  The second, would be not compensating them and sending them all back to Africa after slavery ended....  my 2 cents..  We are all suffering now...  Canada too...BIG TIME!!
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: MarZutra on September 17, 2007, 08:26:34 AM
Your comments are both funny and sad.  Did you by any chance ever hear of a radio talk show host named Dennis Prager?  He is based here in Los Angeles, so I do not know if his show reaches all the way to Canada. Yes, I have heard Dennis Prager before.  He doen't come to Canada but we can get him in communities near the border.  He is ok but far to Liberal for me.  Granted he did write some fabulous books but his politics is too Left wing for me.  Have you listened to his debate with Rabbi Kahane.  Terrible in all honesty.  Prager's logic and knowlege is some what lagging.  I do like him but he is not one of my favorites. He is better than Michael Deadhead.  Deadhead would be VERY good if he wasn't a stooge for the Republican Party.

In any case, one of his major themes that he keeps coming back to, is the absurd practice of parents working day and night to support their families so that one day, they can pay a life's fortune to send their children off to prestigious universities who will then instruct those same children to rebel against any traditional values the parents stand for.  Yes that is one subject that I think Prager shines is in the moral/family values.  He is very good at that.  I am just not a fan of his politics nor his usage of the term "Pa lestinians" on mass when there is no such animal.  This continual "validation" per say makes it very hard for Israel to justify any "transfer" or true solving of this issue other than committing national suicide by granting a 22nd Arab Muslim Nazi State in Judea and Samaria.

He also has remarked how people very rarely ask each other what college they attended.  How successful one is in one's career has much more to do with the individual person, than with what college they attended.  He therefore recommends choosing a college based on its financial cost, rather than prestige. You are correct.  Prager is also good in these issues.  I do like him when he speaks on the "social" aspect of internal American society. He is pretty much spot on.

Obviously, this does not apply when considering a medical school or law school.  In such cases, the prestige of the university really does make a difference.  But in just about any other field, a state university is just as good, if not better, than the best of Ivy League schools. Again, point out very valid cases... very true..  Many State Schools don't have the mass infiltration of the ultra leftist sub human offal "Professors" or Propagandists...as well like Harvard etc.
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 17, 2007, 11:46:50 AM
As a person who prefers the bitter truth to pleasant lies, I do have to agree with a lot of what was said above about Black people.

Yet I stand by the position that I stated elsewhere.  I think that my position on this is the exact opposite of racism, yet in today's politically correct climate, I would be sure to be labeled a racist.  I am sure that there will be people coming from the other side, who will say I am some kind of apologist for the Blacks.

My solution to the Black problem is that we should treat Blacks just like everybody else, neither better nor worse than non-Black people.  I detest the southern mentality that enabled slavery as well as the klansman mentality that would lynch Blacks or leave burning crosses on their lawns.  I find the N word to be a disgusting obscenity which I have never used, and hope to never use in the future.

The truth of the matter is, though, that most of that kind of treatment of Blacks is a thing of the past.  For many decades now, the problem is far more with those who cater to every Black whim, out of fear of being called a racist.  Let me give you some examples.

Affirmative action is a crime as far as I am concerned.  When I see a doctor who is Black, I automatically assume that the person got to where he is because of his skin color rather than his qualifications.  Had there been no affirmative action, I would have no need to think in such a way.  And isn't it absurd that something so important as medicine, should be so political, while basketball, which after all is ultimately just a game, has no notion of quotas?  Where are the pygmy handicapped basketball players?  They are nowhere to be found, because we sports fans love to watch excellence.  But is it more important to see the best sports players play, then to have the best doctors there to help save lives?

Blacks are overrepresented in prisons not because of racism, but because Blacks commit far more violent crime in proportion to their numbers than any other group, with the possible exception of the islamofascists.  If anything, far too many Blacks are released from prison or kept from entering prison at all, out of fear of being labeled as racists.  Every time ANY human being even points a gun at another human being, that person needs to go to jail forever.  Murderers do not deserve to live, and should be executed....whether or not they happen to be Black.

Ebonics is a joke.  Even Jesse Jackson has expressed as much.  All Ebonics is, is the mangling of the English language, and should not be glorified or even tolerated.  Teachers in school should insist on their students learning proper, standard English, and not make excuses for poor grammar skills.

Rap hip hop is garbage.  Screaming and yelling to a loud incessant beat about how all POE-lease should be shot and all women are [censored] and HOES is simply not music.  White guilt is what keeps this industry alive, as more whites than Blacks buy into this trash.  Yet I see no reason why we should not expect Blacks to appreciate Bach and Mozart every bit as much as White people do.

I could go on, but I think my point is clear by now.
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 17, 2007, 12:01:37 PM
Anybody who is so politically right of center, that they oppose Republicans, President Bush, Michael Medved, and Dennis Prager, are just too fringe for me to take seriously.  I wonder how such people would feel if, G-d forbid, hitlery rotten clinton would become our next President.  Maybe then, such people will appreciate the Republicans, President Bush, Michael Medved, and Dennis Prager.  I, for one, do not want our country to be in the position where such lessons have to be learned; our country is still paying for electing dhimmi carter for four years; I do not want another such disaster to plague our nation.

That does not necessarily mean that I like everything about, for example, Dennis Prager.  Actually, what bothers me most of all about him are his really narcissistic idiosyncrasies.  He is just so full of himself, so impressed with himself, and no matter what the topic at hand is, he always turns it into a discussion about himself.  This is ironic, given how often he lambasts the liberals for that same narcissism.

I am well aware of the fact that Dennis Prager hates Rabbi Kahane.  In fact, I remember hearing the two debate on the old Ray Bream radio talk show back in the 1980's, and yes, of course Rabbi Kahane won the debate hands down.  A lot of people do not seem to realize just what a brilliant mind Rabbi Kahane had.  People tend to see him as some kind of emotional extremist in a constant state of wild-eyed frenzy, while I see him as an extremely rational and realistic thinker who truly understood what the islamofascists are all about.

So I definitely side with Rabbi Kahane over Dennis Prager.  However, with time, as Dennis realizes more and more that Rabbi Kahane was right (although he would never, ever admit that), he has sounded more and more like Rabbi Kahane over the years, and has found less and less excuse to insult Rabbi Kahane as he used to be so fond of doing. 

Furthermore, I am not so sure that Dennis is even for a two-state solution anymore.  Theoretically, yes, but even he realizes that in the real world, such a solution is meaningless.  There already is a 58 state solution, with us Jews having our one little tiny strip of land, while the islamofacsists control 57 countries.  And all this is besides the obvious fact that the islamofascists have no interest in a two-state solution anyway; giving them a state in the so-called occupied territories would only serve to give them the encouragement they need to murder more and more Jews and take over the rest of Israel.
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: Erica on September 17, 2007, 01:18:04 PM
wow.  Until I went onto this forum, I thought I did not like Black people.  Yet compared to some people here, I am practically a soul brother myself!  I wonder how Erica puts up with us bigots.
Toleration. Some people here aren't anything like the biggots I've seen here. So I work from there. Those who aren't rude and crude but I still disagree with them, I respect them anyway. Those who aren't as affluent and must use ebonics to express themselves, and also to make me angry...don't get much respect from me at all.

Aside from that, I dont' like Cornel West. I don't know exactly what it is about him that I dislike but there are a lot of tings that come to mind. His use of ebonics while holding that PHD is attrocious.
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: Joe Schmo on September 17, 2007, 01:29:25 PM
My solution to the Black problem is that we should treat Blacks just like everybody else, neither better nor worse than non-Black people. 

That would be 'racist'.  Its a good idea though.
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: Ultra Requete on September 17, 2007, 02:25:23 PM
My solution to the Black problem is that we should treat Blacks just like everybody else, neither better nor worse than non-Black people. 

That would be 'racist'.  Its a good idea though.

Exactly AA and other PC crap like race was invented becouse the neutral policy was showing that those minorities are failing not becouse of some discrimination but from internal flaws; and people acording to left must be equal or else... Remember when reality is disaproving the Idea the "liberals" which is American codename for socialist/marxists will always try to change the former to match the later  so if nescesery the tall are beheaded. That's why along with race quotas they drag the level down to gutter.
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: Joe Schmo on September 17, 2007, 02:38:34 PM
AA and other PC crap like race was invented because the neutral policy was showing that those minorities are failing not because of discrimination but from internal flaws; and people (according to leftists) must be equal or else... Remember, when reality disapproves an Idea, the "liberals" (an American codename for socialist/Marxists) will try to change the former to match the later.  So, if necessary, the tall are beheaded. That's why, along with race quotas they drag the level down to gutter.

Precisely.
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: MarZutra on September 17, 2007, 04:06:39 PM
That is quite a tragic opinion/position in all honest.  I listen to Prager but happen to agree with Michael Savage or Chaim, Rabbi Singer or even John Hagee more so.  It is your opinion and we are all allowed to have our opinions I just don't want to see another good Jew fall into that Matrix of a following on based on politically guided propagnada and more so a free thinker.  This is why I listen to all.  I actually enjoy Eugene Narrett as well as Dr. Stanley Monteith from time to time. Sadly, if it was up to Gheorge Bush the borders would be open and America would be flooded with Illegals, many of which are Arabian/Muslims...or the selling out of all capital/National assets to the highest bidder even though they might be Muslim or Communist...  The sad fact is that Regan was formerly right of Prager, as was Barry Goldwater to name a quick few.

"That does not necessarily mean that I like everything about, for example, Dennis Prager.  Actually, what bothers me most of all about him are his really narcissistic idiosyncrasies. "  I agree with you here 110%.  "He is just so full of himself, so impressed with himself, and no matter what the topic at hand is, he always turns it into a discussion about himself.  This is ironic, given how often he lambasts the liberals for that same narcissism." I agree with you here as well.  Sadly, Savage can be the same way as well.  Perhaps it is ego getting involved...  but I agree with you 110%

I am well aware of the fact that Dennis Prager hates Rabbi Kahane.  In fact, I remember hearing the two debate on the old Ray Bream radio talk show back in the 1980's, and yes, of course Rabbi Kahane won the debate hands down.  A lot of people do not seem to realize just what a brilliant mind Rabbi Kahane had.  100% in agreement with your position in all honesty. People tend to see him as some kind of emotional extremist in a constant state of wild-eyed frenzy, while I see him as an extremely rational and realistic thinker who truly understood what the islamofascists are all about.Yes, very true.  It is largely due to the same leftist dominated media in Israel and America (along with their "Jewish" institutions and socialist-cohorts) that did the same to Barry Goldwater in 1964 or fabricated the so-called "Witch Hunt" via "McCarthyism".  Sadly, with hindsight being 20/20, McCarthy was right as was the younger Barry Goldwater and Douglas MacArthur.

So I definitely side with Rabbi Kahane over Dennis Prager.  However, with time, as Dennis realizes more and more that Rabbi Kahane was right (although he would never, ever admit that), he has sounded more and more like Rabbi Kahane over the years, and has found less and less excuse to insult Rabbi Kahane as he used to be so fond of doing.  I agree with you here, but sadly Prager doesn't take that leap into true Torah Conservatism and remains left of center in my opinion on many issues.

Furthermore, I am not so sure that Dennis is even for a two-state solution anymore.  Theoretically, yes, but even he realizes that in the real world, such a solution is meaningless.  There already is a 58 state solution, with us Jews having our one little tiny strip of land, while the islamofacsists control 57 countries.  And all this is besides the obvious fact that the islamofascists have no interest in a two-state solution anyway; giving them a state in the so-called occupied territories would only serve to give them the encouragement they need to murder more and more Jews and take over the rest of Israel.I agree with you here but he still uses the term P-lestinians and "West Bank" etc. etc. which, in all honesty, promulgates this entire fabricated history predicated on one big Antisemtic lie.  This land in question was actually and legally mandated to the Jews in both 1917 and 1932-3 recognized by the Leage of Nations....a bankrupt entity like the United Nations... Possibly because their starting point is one and the same: Communists with Western Elitist-"Neo"- Conservative funing
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 17, 2007, 09:14:16 PM
I consider myself a neo-con, which apparently from some of the comments in here, makes me one of the evil ones.  :-X
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: newman on September 17, 2007, 09:32:25 PM
AA and other PC crap like race was invented because the neutral policy was showing that those minorities are failing not because of discrimination but from internal flaws; and people (according to leftists) must be equal or else... Remember, when reality disapproves an Idea, the "liberals" (an American codename for socialist/Marxists) will try to change the former to match the later.  So, if necessary, the tall are beheaded. That's why, along with race quotas they drag the level down to gutter.

Precisely.
Ditto!

Real equallity can only be equallity of opportunity.

The negro doesn't want equallity of opportunity because it means he must make the same effort ( a task for which he is both unwilling and incapable). What he seeks is equallity of results for an inequallity in merit.

"You crackers gib me dat big screen TV ah aint worked fo' ."

"You crackers gib me dat place at da fancy college ah aint got da grades fo'. "

This convoluted sense of values has been the white liberals 'bread & butter' for decades.
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 17, 2007, 09:42:25 PM
Regardless of what Black people want or do not want, they deserve the same opportunity as everybody else.  No bigotry against them, but no special programs for them either.  Let them succeed or fail on their own merits.
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: newman on September 17, 2007, 09:45:36 PM
Regardless of what Black people want or do not want, they deserve the same opportunity as everybody else.  No bigotry against them, but no special programs for them either.  Let them succeed or fail on their own merits.
What you just said is the absolute definition of non-descrimination, but to a liberal it's racsism.  ???
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: Erica on September 17, 2007, 10:47:26 PM
Regardless of what Black people want or do not want, they deserve the same opportunity as everybody else.  No bigotry against them, but no special programs for them either.  Let them succeed or fail on their own merits.
This I totally agree with...every word. Equal treatment, but hire or acceptance at college should be by merit only. AA should be outlawed..its caused more problems than its solved.
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: Dr. Dan on September 17, 2007, 10:51:20 PM
Regardless of what Black people want or do not want, they deserve the same opportunity as everybody else.  No bigotry against them, but no special programs for them either.  Let them succeed or fail on their own merits.
This I totally agree with...every word. Equal treatment, but hire or acceptance at college should be by merit only. AA should be outlawed..its caused more problems than its solved.

hey, you are a master JTFer..nice!  Btw, chaim said what I interpreted as a nice blurb about you on ask jtf.
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 17, 2007, 10:59:02 PM
Who is Danny complimenting, Erica or JewishTeddyBear, or both?  ;)

Erica, I applaud you for supporting the idea of Blacks and every other group of people making it or not making it on their own, without any special favors from anyone.  Freedom of opportunity is what America is all about.  (To liberals, freedom of result is what they are all about)
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: Dr. Dan on September 17, 2007, 11:00:38 PM
well, it was actually Erica, but not you're not so bad JTB  ::)
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: Erica on September 17, 2007, 11:14:00 PM
Regardless of what Black people want or do not want, they deserve the same opportunity as everybody else.  No bigotry against them, but no special programs for them either.  Let them succeed or fail on their own merits.
This I totally agree with...every word. Equal treatment, but hire or acceptance at college should be by merit only. AA should be outlawed..its caused more problems than its solved.

hey, you are a master JTFer..nice!  Btw, chaim said what I interpreted as a nice blurb about you on ask jtf.
Thanks :) And I'm almost afraid to ask what he said but..."What did he say?" :D
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: Dr. Dan on September 17, 2007, 11:15:35 PM
Regardless of what Black people want or do not want, they deserve the same opportunity as everybody else.  No bigotry against them, but no special programs for them either.  Let them succeed or fail on their own merits.
This I totally agree with...every word. Equal treatment, but hire or acceptance at college should be by merit only. AA should be outlawed..its caused more problems than its solved.

hey, you are a master JTFer..nice!  Btw, chaim said what I interpreted as a nice blurb about you on ask jtf.
Thanks :) And I'm almost afraid to ask what he said but..."What did he say?" :D

I forgot but it hink it had to do wtih people's comments on chaim's youtube videos and that you were an exception in something...listen to all 2 hours and 47 minutes yourself! hahahah.
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: Erica on September 17, 2007, 11:19:41 PM
Regardless of what Black people want or do not want, they deserve the same opportunity as everybody else.  No bigotry against them, but no special programs for them either.  Let them succeed or fail on their own merits.
This I totally agree with...every word. Equal treatment, but hire or acceptance at college should be by merit only. AA should be outlawed..its caused more problems than its solved.

hey, you are a master JTFer..nice!  Btw, chaim said what I interpreted as a nice blurb about you on ask jtf.
Thanks :) And I'm almost afraid to ask what he said but..."What did he say?" :D

I forgot but it hink it had to do wtih people's comments on chaim's youtube videos and that you were an exception in something...listen to all 2 hours and 47 minutes yourself! hahahah.
I will...thanks :)
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: Barach Velvel ben Lazer Eliazer on September 19, 2007, 11:55:19 PM
Well, this is how I feel. I work with some very nice, hard-working and upstanding blacks. These blacks are ones you can be proud of. One of the said blacks is a family man, who is probably the best black I've ever come in contact with. When I talk to him, his race doesn't even come to mind.

Now, on the other hand, the blacks I go to college with are absolute disgraces. Which is something I've associated the majority of blacks with. They are ebonics-talking, rapper-worshipping idiots. And when one wants to be political it usually sounds something like this: "That Bush be an ass. That motherf'er is dumb. He dumb. We be needin' a democrat!" Not an exact quote, but all of this has been said by a black from a generalized perspective.

And get this. In my genocide class, we were talking about race and one black student said the following: "It also has to do with your social security number. The middle two digits of my social are odd numbers, and so are my friends'." Thank God another black student, a young lady, responsed to his maniacally untrue comment "That's not true. I have even numbers in mine." The professor, a Hispanic, said that her middle digits were odd and said "That was cool. I was black for minute." Not the funniest or most intelligent comment, but thank God the professor said something about his totally false statement.

That young black man goes to show that blacks are always crying racism on everything in society. "That be racist!" according to the black man. These ungrateful people are STILL crying racism, even after all the affirmative action laws have been established. Unqualified blacks get loans for college they will never pay back, because denying a black of an education would be racist, even though the loan officer knows full well there is no possible way the recipient can pay it back. They get into schools they certainly couldn't have if it were not for their skin color and the government will give this morons grants and scholarships for the same reason, even though their on the same level as a retard. And unfortunately, the same thing happens outside of school, too.

They get jobs they aren't qualified for, because the US is obsessed with interracial working environments. So, a black will get a job simply for the color of his skin, even though he doesn't have a college education, where one is required. But he's hired anyway, because he's black, and it's hard to find a black who actually has an impressive resume. They have a law-bound requirement to fill and if they need to hire complete incompetents to fill that requirement than so be it. And if somehow a black does manage to match a white based on their resumes, the black man gets the job, because HE BE BLACK, AND WHITEY AIN'T GONNA STOP 'IM!

I can go on and on about how brutally horrid the black race is, and how self-hating whites have helped them become even more horrid. But there really is no need. Most of you can see for yourselves.

Remember the Black Plague? Well, this is a different kind, but if something isn't done, it will be just as deadly.

Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: MasterWolf1 on September 20, 2007, 12:03:20 AM
They call him a professor?  He wouldn't really even be qualified to pick dead bugs off a sick dog. 

"Mmmhmm das right dat Affirmative Action sure work for him.  Cause wit out dat Affirmative Action Cornel Beast would be cleaning da streets on Time Square with a broom."  Says, the Rev. I.B. Oppressed.
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: newman on September 20, 2007, 12:12:59 AM
" Free at last, free at last, free at last. Thank G_d almighty...a free RIDE at last"........Rev. I.B. Oppressed.
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: Barach Velvel ben Lazer Eliazer on September 20, 2007, 12:20:08 AM
" Free at last, free at last, free at last. Thank G_d almighty...a free RIDE at last"........Rev. I.B. Oppressed.
Wonderful quote. I hope Chaim gets a chance to read that.
Title: Re: Cornel West
Post by: newman on September 20, 2007, 12:26:34 AM
" Free at last, free at last, free at last. Thank G_d almighty...a free RIDE at last"........Rev. I.B. Oppressed.
Wonderful quote. I hope Chaim gets a chance to read that.

"May the day come when we eat KFC together, breed bastard babies together, pee in da subway together, get welfare together and go looting together"...................Rev. I.B. Oppressed.