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Save Western Civilization => Save America => Topic started by: guyNbluejeans on September 19, 2007, 04:29:04 PM
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On the TV program The View today, the two black hosts went on for several minutes spewing out "facts" regarding the situation in Jena, Louisiana that involves a situation in which (they allege) some young, upstanding black high school boys are getting shafted by the justice system down there on account of beating up a Caucasian kid.
I don't know that much about the case, but I will say that I find it troubling that the mainstream media takes the side of the blacks by saying things like, "The white boy was beaten up by several black boys because he taunted them, and there are witnesses." And, "the white boy wasn't really hurt that bad."
Interesting. One white kid decides to taunt SEVERAL black boys? And there are "witnesses"??
Hmm. Methinks it would be worth hearing what the kid that was attacked has to say about this, rather than two millionaire black ladies using The View as a soapbox to further their agenda, yes?
I used to think that Whoopy Goldberg was an alright lady, but not anymore. She made a comment to suggest that today's blacks are treated in a more racist fashion than "25 or 50 years ago." And Goldberg even stooped to suggesting that the interest in what's going on currently with that piece of [censored] O.J. Simpson is indicative of a negative racial climate against blacks!
Personally, I'm damn tired of all these well-off black folks using their various national soapboxes to level axes against "whitey." And I always wonder, If things in this country truly are so horrible for blacks (because there are supposedly so many racist whites doing them wrong at every twist and turn), then why do blacks as a group keep making so many babies!!!!!!!
I've never done one crappy thing to a black person in my entire life, and yet I can't count how many times I've been treated like [censored] by some of them! Give me a national soapbox and let me put the spin out there to help undo what Ted Koppel and many of the other liberal bastards have done to this country by pandering 24/7 to loud-mouth, racist blacks!!
If the two racist swine on The View really care about what's going on in this country with regards to race, then why don't they speak out about what all those dozens of racist blacks did to Kristopher Kime during a Seattle Mardi Gras a few years ago?! ... Why don't they make a mention that if you're a Caucasian that you'd be wise to have your life insurance up to date if you decide to walk through anyone of several dozen black neighborhoods in this country?! ... Or why is it that none of these loud-mouths ever state how unbelievably fortunate that African-Americans are to be able enjoy the super-high standard of living they have courtesy of what the so-called "racist" whites have done? And what about all the vaccines invented by whites that have resulted with MILLIONS of people of African descent living long, healthy lives? Doesn't THAT count for anything?!!!!!!
Is it really asking too much for those running the powerful national media to lay off with this crap that whites are to blame for everything that goes wrong in the lives of so-called people of color?
I heard one of the liberal pigs in the media state last week that their big concern is about blacks having to endure a double-standard when it comes to legal sentencing in this country. As far as I'm aware, there might be something to it, I don't know. But I do know one thing for sure, and that is that for a very, very long time now there exists a double-standard when it comes to the media and how it treats blacks and whites in this country. But I guess the Katie Courics and all those other Rupurt Murdock-owned phonies see no reason to make THAT a national issue!!
Gosh, if nothing is done about the way the libs are misusing the great power and influence that the national media machine gives them, then, I fear, there's going to be a full-blown race war in the not-too-distant future!
THE PHONIES MUST BE STOPPED!
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If America is so racist and terrible they should leave and go back to Africa. Then they'll never get called n;gger or attacked or "taunted" by evil white folks.
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How come every time a few kids commit murder, rape or assault, the media spins some yarn about their being innocent and names them after their city of residence and the amount of people arrested?
When did this media creation begin?
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Yes it's completly balooney; When whites beats negro; it's called hate crime;when negroes beat white; they're victims of white rascism. >:(
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This is just business as usual. Constant complaining, constant asking for reparations, constantly making up 'percieved slights'. Just end it all and let the savages go free and restrict them to an all black area so they won't annoy white people with their endless grips.
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Typical whining, crying blacks.
If their oppression 150 years ago has lead to their failures, then by that reasoning every Jew should be a seriel killer!
Utter baloney!!
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Typical whining, crying blacks.
If their oppression 150 years ago has lead to their failures, then by that reasoning every Jew should be a seriel killer!
Utter baloney!!
That's right.
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Typical whining, crying blacks.
If their oppression 150 years ago has lead to their failures, then by that reasoning every Jew should be a seriel killer!
Utter baloney!!
That's right.
99% of anglo saxons were slaves to the gentry. They were serfs- owned by the land owner and had NO rights. The Irish were treated WORSE than many africans by the English.
Why aren't we anglo-saxons & Irish all junkies, subway muggers, bums and bastard baby breeders too?
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I forgot to mention ... during those moments when Goldberg and that other racist black host (I don't know her name) were slamming the country for being full of white racists -- and with the blessings of the other two non-black hosts, I might add -- they managed to use their digs in such a way as to let Hispanic voters watching the show know that they're with them in their struggle against whitey!
That's right. They rattled off a couple of places where the republican presidential candidates could have gone in order to kiss the asses of black and Hispanic voters, but didn't. And so like the clever little racist pigs that they are, you can bet that they'll shamelessly use even more airtime in the future to get their "whitey's holding us down" message out to Hispanics in order to get their man Obama into the White House.
It's all about King on the Mountain, folks! And if blacks can't make the grade via scientific or (meaningful) cultural achievements, than they'll surely hold nothing back to tell lies and play games if that's what it'll take in order for them to replace whitey from all places of power and prestige!!
God bless the good black folks out there, but we all know that for too many of them that have access to the astounding power of the media, their motto is: Take all you can and don't give an inch!
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You know how many ethnic groups that came to America had gotten so much back lash? The Italians for example, the Irish, the Asians. You do not hear of them rampaging and rioting. You do not hear of them asking repartation. And very stupid self hating whites with no backbones do fear the black rage back lash.
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Here is my prediction, The View will be cancelled!
While people like to "act" politically correct, they also act differently in the privacy oftheir homes. For example, in the audience, a white person may clap to goldberg's COMPLAINTS because if they don't, then people might call them "racist".
BUT at home, it is much easier to act less enthusiastic about their vile statements.
So will people of other ethnicities etc... At some point, Goldberg's BIG mouth will backfire on her yet she will continue to be a self righteous jerk. At least Cosby is not afraid to criticize his own people.
SO, I repeat, The View will end, probably not this year but it might not be renewed some time in the future. I assume before 2009
A lot of people act differently in private.
Many anti-immigrant politicians get low poll results when pollsters are in their face. But the privacy of the voting booth is different.
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This Goldberg animal is nothing more that a typical black who preys on white women who don't have a life and have nothing better to do than to what the peu and hoprah. Goldberg, where did she get that name from, has a long history of white bashing. Her personal life is a mess. She has a daughter who got knocked up when she was a young slut, about 15 or 16 by a gangbanger who move in with goldberg and her little slut daughter. He was constantly in trouble with the cops. As far as the [censored] saying tha darkies serve more time for the same crime than whites do for the same crime, that is true. However, 100 percent of the primitives have prior records which makes a judge give them more time. This is typical black reasoning. I have no idea who the other [censored] was but I do know that the whore Joy Behar hates whites with every bone in her body. She is always saying how racist Republicans are. I remember when she was on WABC radio how she used to call all the white callers racist and she said that WABC was WKKK.
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Mills -- It's funny that you would mention Bill Cosby because to me he's one of the sorriest phonies out there.
I remember when I was a kid back in the late '60s being called into the house by my foster mom, and she had me and the rest of us kids sit around the livingroom table and listen to the funnyman, Cosby. We laughed at the hysterical things he said; he was and remains a talent.
However, I think for at least the past 10 years or so the guy does this thing, as you stated, in which he criticizes blacks for acting screwy by having too much interest in sports and hip-hop, etc., instead of books and family. And that of course is all well and good (as far as I'm concerned) except for the fact that when he does it, he ALWAYS makes it a point to take a shot at whitey so as to make sure that his bros understand that he's still one of them!
For me the real turning point came about a year and a half ago when I was thumbing through a Time magazine while at work and noticed an article about him. In it he was being critical of blacks (for the above stated reasons) and the piece of garbage was quoted as saying (to his fellow blacks), "You know whites want us to fail blah blah blah."
When I read that, I thought, "What a scumbag! Me and my family loved the guy, but now that he has more money than Fort Knox, he can afford to show what a racist, phony pig he really is!"
When he first got started back in the day, he'd go on the Tonight Show and talk baby talk to Carson for the whole time he was on. He'd always do that! I took it as deep gratitude for being able to sell himself to a national audience which, of course, did wonders for his career and bank account. But now days the racist is so puffed up that the baby talk has been replaced with unvarnished hatred for white people (even though he'd be a total unknown nothing had "white people" not reached into their wallets so many times to buy his albums and crap).
Bill Cosby is a spoiled, phony, racist ingrate in my book. You can have him.
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Typical whining, crying blacks.
If their oppression 150 years ago has lead to their failures, then by that reasoning every Jew should be a seriel killer!
Utter baloney!!
Do they not remind us of muslims? I notice a lot of similarities between the two, only islam puts a religious twist on things.
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"The white boy was beaten up by several black boys because he taunted them, and there are witnesses." And, "the white boy wasn't really hurt that bad."
The white kid is lucky to be alive after a gang beating by blacks.
I've never done one crappy thing to a black person in my entire life, and yet I can't count how many times I've been treated like excrement by some of them!
I know how you feel, guyNbluejeans. Did you have to go to school with them?
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"The white boy was beaten up by several black boys because he taunted them, and there are witnesses." And, "the white boy wasn't really hurt that bad."
The white kid is lucky to be alive after a gang beating by blacks.
I've never done one crappy thing to a black person in my entire life, and yet I can't count how many times I've been treated like excrement by some of them!
I know how you feel, guyNbluejeans. Did you have to go to school with them?
When I was around 10 I was placed in a state-run home for children and two older black boys wasted no time in letting me know that I wasn't welcome. That was just the beginning of experiencing evil first-hand by blacks over the years. To be fair, I must also add that I've certainly have been witness to some truly great behavior by blacks, as well. In addition to that, I have to add that there were many times in my younger years when I did things that weren't kind or right, either. (It would be wonderful if one could say that one race is all bad and the other(s) all good, things would be easier!)
But many-a-times I've had it whereby it was just in-your-face rudeness from blacks to me. For example, there was the case of a black fellow that came from France. He and I worked for the same company and he came off as this real decent fellow, sorta like Sidney Portey (sp?), classy. And so he led me on like he liked me as a human being, and I liked him because he was so smart (spoke 7 languages!) and decent. All in all I thought he was a pretty cool dude.
However, over the course of time, he began doing some things that seemed a little odd. Like he'd ask me if it was okay to use the water fountain (because he was black). That would catch me off guard and then I'd laugh thinking that this was his delightful sense of humor. But then his underlying, racist hatred began to come out. He'd leave his work station and walk all the way across the plant floor and show me a word in a dictionary he was carrying.
The word was "homogeneous." Pointing to it, he'd say, "We'll never be that."
But I was so dense, thinking that this was still just his obnoxious sense of humor, and thus I didn't catch on about what an actual racist pig he was until he invited me to a party at his place with some other people. I accepted (like an idiot) but he never stopped by to pick me up as he said he would! THAT finally made a bell ring off in my head, and so that was the end of our "friendship." (Incidentally, he also threatened to "beat the [censored]" out of me for having voiced my displeasure at his racism, but I let it go even though he was way too much of a toothpick to do it.)
As God is my witness, I've had dozens upon dozens of things happen to me with blacks that were just as unpleasant. Whites, too. But way more with blacks. These days I try and not let myself get involved with them in any manner, as life is too short to be hated and jacked around.
For me the most infuriating thing by far is to see sooo many blacks enjoying a sweet standard of living via using their newspaper columns to trash whitey on a consistant basis. THAT sort of thing, including those using TV to do the same thing, really bother me!!
In my opinion, things are way worse now than they were 30-years ago. And I attribute that mainly to Ted Koppel for spearheading this whole business of hammering into the collective American psyche that basically says that "whites are all a bunch of racist pigs out to harm all people of color, especially blacks"!
Koppel came all the way from England and got a good education in this country, followed it up with being given a GREAT job, and then proceeded to relentlessly stab whites in the back with one lie and one half truth followed by another for over the course of 28-years! He could have put out this message instead: What's happened in the past cannot be changed. Please, for the sake of future generations, everyone do your best to treat all of your fellow human beings with respect. God placed each soul into the racial body of His choice, live with it and try and make a positive difference because our time in this world is very short."
But he didn't do that. He's a lying, worthless coward for coming to this country that blessed him so much and then turning around and using this nation's racial past to pump out an extremely unfair viewpoint that screws over the actual truth of things, while at the same time using his brainwashing methods to harm a lot of innocent people along the way. (Kristopher Kime and many others that have been murdered by blacks might still be alive had Koppel been even half-way "fair and balanced" over the years by pointing out to blacks how they benefit BIG TIME due to "white people" sharing technologies with them that they invented!!)
A race war is coming down the pike due to the libs getting away with spewing out their lies by the billions 24/7. I don't want it to happen, but one would have to be blind to not see the writing on the wall.
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This is going to come as a shock to many people. After reviewing the details of this case I think that it is a gross injustice. The shoe string evidence used against the "Jena 6" is a farce. This is a clear cut case of racism with an incredible double standard. Sure, Justin Barker was beaten until he was unconscious! It's kind of funny though that he was released from the hospital two hours later! These six kids are not "heroes," but these charges are obscene and should be reduced. Yes, of course I'm disgusted that the usual racial pimps are at it again trying to milk this for all the publicity. You know, the usual assorted Negro dreck like Sharpton and Jackson. And yes, I'm also not surprised at all that this has become a cause célèbre for the anti-white media. I will say this though; If swastikas were painted on the wall of my school and I was routinely harassed by Jew haters on and off campus, violently beaten by them at a party, and had a shotgun pulled out at me, I'd crack their skulls if not worse.
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I don't know..... I read the facts of Jena, but you know something? Once I see Sharpton and Jackson, I see the case whatever it is I immediately say guilty to whoever those 2 loud apes are defending! After Tawanna sp? Crown Heights, Sean Bell etc... If I ever had respect (never did btw) for them, it's lost!
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I took a look at some of the photo's of the stores that were closed and noticed that none of them have bars on the windows. What was interesting was to see photos of car dealers with no cars on the lot. I don't think any of the outstanding citizens who visited Jena to peacefully protest would even think about looting any of these stores. The stores must have closed because they were run by a bunch of racists.
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You know how many ethnic groups that came to America had gotten so much back lash? The Italians for example, the Irish, the Asians. You do not hear of them rampaging and rioting. You do not hear of them asking repartation. And very stupid self hating whites with no backbones do fear the black rage back lash.
They went crazy with their protests today.
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How come every time a few kids commit murder, rape or assault, the media spins some yarn about their being innocent and names them after their city of residence and the amount of people arrested?
When did this media creation begin?
No one is saying that they're not guilty. I think what they did was deplorable. However the problem is that the justice system dosen't work the same way for blacks in Lousiana as it does for whites who live there. FOr instance, three nooses were hung from a tree because a day prior a group of black boys decided to sit there. The tree was supposed to be only occupied by WHITE students at the school. Also, some white teens decided to beat a black teen up(God knows why) but they weren't sent to jail, instead he was given 3 days suspension. The Jena 6 beat up a white kid and were charged as adults and will possibly be sentenced to life for attempted murder..eventhough the white kid got up and returned to the school later that evening for a school function. That's not equal at all. It use to be that when students fought in school, there was a chain of command to follow, then consequences would ensue. IN-SCHOOL consequences, that is. Or perhaps there could have been 3 days to a week out of school suspension. But attempted murder? That looks like racism to me. That dosen't mean that I'm supporting what the Jena 6 teens did, because like I said it was an evil thing to do to someone else...as was the beating given by a few white students. Equal punishment for equal crime is all I'm saying.
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The wiite kids just wanted a space they could call their own. The apes decided that was racist. But if the situation was reversed, the apes would be crying racism that the whites invaded their space.
The noose was just a friendly reminder for the apes to back off, that's all
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.The Jena 6 beat up a white kid and were charged as adults and will possibly be sentenced to life for attempted murder.
Good :)
Six less ape thugs on the street
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The wiite kids just wanted a space they could call their own. The apes decided that was racist. But if the situation was reversed, the apes would be crying racism that the whites invaded their space.
The noose was just a friendly reminder for the apes to back off, that's all
Why don't you stop being stubborn and mean for a second. How in the world is hanging a noose or three a "friendly" reminder? Have you seen the hangings of blacks in the past? And do you understand that the nooses were put there as a physical threat, to let the black boys know that they'd possibly be hanged if they sat at "A TREE" again? Racial tention is never good for anyone. And this thing with looking past the nooses ever being tied to the tree is crazy. Who in their right mind would look at that as a joke... besides you and the Superintendent of the school system in Louisiana?
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The wiite kids just wanted a space they could call their own. The apes decided that was racist. But if the situation was reversed, the apes would be crying racism that the whites invaded their space.
The noose was just a friendly reminder for the apes to back off, that's all
Why don't you stop being stubborn and mean for a second. How in the world is hanging a noose or three a "friendly" reminder? Have you seen the hangings of blacks in the past? And do you understand that the nooses were put there as a physical threat, to let the black boys know that they'd possibly be hanged if they sat at "A TREE" again? Racial tention is never good for anyone. And this thing with looking past the nooses ever being tied to the tree is crazy. Who in their right mind would look at that as a joke... besides you and the Superintendent of the school system in Louisiana?
Stop trying to fudge up the facts, Erica. The "Jena 6" attacked someone in the most brutal fashion. 6 blacks students beat up a white student so badly that he became unconscious. Then after he was unconscious they continued to kick him in the head. In situations like this, an "assault with a deadly weapon" charge is standard, the deadly weapon being the assailant's shoes.
We're dealing with crimes here, that fall very much outside of the scope of a school, this rightfully should be dealt with a criminal prosecution. It's not like these charges are being created out of thin air, people who commit assaults such as these are regularly charged with assault with a deadly weapon. This is a matter of law. Hanging nuises is not a crime, it's an expression of free speech which is protected by the constitution. Of course this would violate school policy and the students were suspended for doing it. Some of the "Jena 6" had violent and criminal backgrounds which also led to the decision to prosecute them in such a severe way. These 6 should absolutely face what they're going to face. Anyone who brutally assaults someone in this way should face the consequences, no matter the race.
Imagine that there was a black zone that white students weren't allowed into. This happens all the time but it's deemed as completely unacceptable when whites do it, it's racism and it shouldn't be tolerated. This is not a "rights" issue. Everybody does not have the absolute right to go where they please, imagine if a white went to a gang-infected part of a city, they would probably be treated similarly. Imagine that it was 6 whites who beat up a defenseless black, they would have been charged with a hate crime and they would have been made scapegoats and received severe sentences.
Look what happens to white people who are suspected of committing crimes against blacks. For a better explanation of this, ask the Duke lacrosse players who basically had their reputations ruined because of a claim of "racist behavior" that everyone bought into.
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The wiite kids just wanted a space they could call their own. The apes decided that was racist. But if the situation was reversed, the apes would be crying racism that the whites invaded their space.
The noose was just a friendly reminder for the apes to back off, that's all
Why don't you stop being stubborn and mean for a second. How in the world is hanging a noose or three a "friendly" reminder? Have you seen the hangings of blacks in the past? And do you understand that the nooses were put there as a physical threat, to let the black boys know that they'd possibly be hanged if they sat at "A TREE" again? Racial tention is never good for anyone. And this thing with looking past the nooses ever being tied to the tree is crazy. Who in their right mind would look at that as a joke... besides you and the Superintendent of the school system in Louisiana?
Stop trying to fudge up the facts, Erica. The "Jena 6" attacked someone in the most brutal fashion. 6 blacks students beat up a white student so badly that he became unconscious. Then after he was unconscious they continued to kick him in the head. In situations like this, an "assault with a deadly weapon" charge is standard, the deadly weapon being the assailant's shoes.
We're dealing with crimes here, that fall very much outside of the scope of a school, this rightfully should be dealt with a criminal prosecution. It's not like these charges are being created out of thin air, people who commit assaults such as these are regularly charged with assault with a deadly weapon. This is a matter of law. Hanging nuises is not a crime, it's an expression of free speech which is protected by the constitution. Of course this would violate school policy and the students were suspended for doing it. Some of the "Jena 6" had violent and criminal backgrounds which also led to the decision to prosecute them in such a severe way. These 6 should absolutely face what they're going to face. Anyone who brutally assaults someone in this way should face the consequences, no matter the race.
Imagine that there was a black zone that white students weren't allowed into. This happens all the time but it's deemed as completely unacceptable when whites do it, it's racism and it shouldn't be tolerated. This is not a "rights" issue. Everybody does not have the absolute right to go where they please, imagine if a white went to a gang-infected part of a city, they would probably be treated similarly. Imagine that it was 6 whites who beat up a defenseless black, they would have been charged with a hate crime and they would have been made scapegoats and received severe sentences.
Look what happens to white people who are suspected of committing crimes against blacks. For a better explanation of this, ask the Duke lacrosse players who basically had their reputations ruined because of a claim of "racist behavior" that everyone bought into.
Ze'ev... they did an evil thing, but on the other side of that the white kid obviously felt good enough to come back to school that evening for a school function. How do you explain that. How was that attempted murder if it didn't land him in the hospital? You seem like you're championing for the white kids who jumped the black boy in this story too. What they did to THAT boy could have been seen as attempted murder also.
Also, for what I bolded for you, if you feel that way, the white kids who jumped the black boy not long before that Jena 6 incident should suffer the same fate if you want to make it so the black kids get life in prison. But since we have common sense, and know that any kind of beat down is bad, by anyone of ANY color, its fair to think that the blacks should be suspended just like the white kids were when they beat the a black boy.
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The wiite kids just wanted a space they could call their own. The apes decided that was racist. But if the situation was reversed, the apes would be crying racism that the whites invaded their space.
The noose was just a friendly reminder for the apes to back off, that's all
Why don't you stop being stubborn and mean for a second. How in the world is hanging a noose or three a "friendly" reminder? Have you seen the hangings of blacks in the past? And do you understand that the nooses were put there as a physical threat, to let the black boys know that they'd possibly be hanged if they sat at "A TREE" again? Racial tention is never good for anyone. And this thing with looking past the nooses ever being tied to the tree is crazy. Who in their right mind would look at that as a joke... besides you and the Superintendent of the school system in Louisiana?
Stop trying to fudge up the facts, Erica. The "Jena 6" attacked someone in the most brutal fashion. 6 blacks students beat up a white student so badly that he became unconscious. Then after he was unconscious they continued to kick him in the head. In situations like this, an "assault with a deadly weapon" charge is standard, the deadly weapon being the assailant's shoes.
We're dealing with crimes here, that fall very much outside of the scope of a school, this rightfully should be dealt with a criminal prosecution. It's not like these charges are being created out of thin air, people who commit assaults such as these are regularly charged with assault with a deadly weapon. This is a matter of law. Hanging nuises is not a crime, it's an expression of free speech which is protected by the constitution. Of course this would violate school policy and the students were suspended for doing it. Some of the "Jena 6" had violent and criminal backgrounds which also led to the decision to prosecute them in such a severe way. These 6 should absolutely face what they're going to face. Anyone who brutally assaults someone in this way should face the consequences, no matter the race.
Imagine that there was a black zone that white students weren't allowed into. This happens all the time but it's deemed as completely unacceptable when whites do it, it's racism and it shouldn't be tolerated. This is not a "rights" issue. Everybody does not have the absolute right to go where they please, imagine if a white went to a gang-infected part of a city, they would probably be treated similarly. Imagine that it was 6 whites who beat up a defenseless black, they would have been charged with a hate crime and they would have been made scapegoats and received severe sentences.
Look what happens to white people who are suspected of committing crimes against blacks. For a better explanation of this, ask the Duke lacrosse players who basically had their reputations ruined because of a claim of "racist behavior" that everyone bought into.
Ze'ev... they did an evil thing, but on the other side of that the white kid obviously felt good enough to come back to school that evening for a school function. How do you explain that. How was that attempted murder if it didn't land him in the hospital? You seem like you're championing for the white kids who jumped the black boy in this story too. What they did to THAT boy could have been seen as attempted murder also.
Also, for what I bolded for you, if you feel that way, the white kids who jumped the black boy not long before that Jena 6 incident should suffer the same fate if you want to make it so the black kids get life in prison. But since we have common sense, and know that any kind of beat down is bad, by anyone of ANY color, its fair to think that the blacks should be suspended just like the white kids were when they beat the a black boy.
I didn't hear of any black who was beaten by anyone. I've heard lots of rumors but how do you know this happened? Did a white boy beat up a black boy? What I keep hearing about this is that blacks want the Jena 6 to not be held accountable for their acts. No matter what the surrounding circumstances were, they should be held accountable for what they did. If any white physically assaulted any blacks, they should also be held accountable.
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The wiite kids just wanted a space they could call their own. The apes decided that was racist. But if the situation was reversed, the apes would be crying racism that the whites invaded their space.
The noose was just a friendly reminder for the apes to back off, that's all
Why don't you stop being stubborn and mean for a second. How in the world is hanging a noose or three a "friendly" reminder? Have you seen the hangings of blacks in the past? And do you understand that the nooses were put there as a physical threat, to let the black boys know that they'd possibly be hanged if they sat at "A TREE" again? Racial tention is never good for anyone. And this thing with looking past the nooses ever being tied to the tree is crazy. Who in their right mind would look at that as a joke... besides you and the Superintendent of the school system in Louisiana?
Stop trying to fudge up the facts, Erica. The "Jena 6" attacked someone in the most brutal fashion. 6 blacks students beat up a white student so badly that he became unconscious. Then after he was unconscious they continued to kick him in the head. In situations like this, an "assault with a deadly weapon" charge is standard, the deadly weapon being the assailant's shoes.
We're dealing with crimes here, that fall very much outside of the scope of a school, this rightfully should be dealt with a criminal prosecution. It's not like these charges are being created out of thin air, people who commit assaults such as these are regularly charged with assault with a deadly weapon. This is a matter of law. Hanging nuises is not a crime, it's an expression of free speech which is protected by the constitution. Of course this would violate school policy and the students were suspended for doing it. Some of the "Jena 6" had violent and criminal backgrounds which also led to the decision to prosecute them in such a severe way. These 6 should absolutely face what they're going to face. Anyone who brutally assaults someone in this way should face the consequences, no matter the race.
Imagine that there was a black zone that white students weren't allowed into. This happens all the time but it's deemed as completely unacceptable when whites do it, it's racism and it shouldn't be tolerated. This is not a "rights" issue. Everybody does not have the absolute right to go where they please, imagine if a white went to a gang-infected part of a city, they would probably be treated similarly. Imagine that it was 6 whites who beat up a defenseless black, they would have been charged with a hate crime and they would have been made scapegoats and received severe sentences.
Look what happens to white people who are suspected of committing crimes against blacks. For a better explanation of this, ask the Duke lacrosse players who basically had their reputations ruined because of a claim of "racist behavior" that everyone bought into.
Ze'ev... they did an evil thing, but on the other side of that the white kid obviously felt good enough to come back to school that evening for a school function. How do you explain that. How was that attempted murder if it didn't land him in the hospital? You seem like you're championing for the white kids who jumped the black boy in this story too. What they did to THAT boy could have been seen as attempted murder also.
Also, for what I bolded for you, if you feel that way, the white kids who jumped the black boy not long before that Jena 6 incident should suffer the same fate if you want to make it so the black kids get life in prison. But since we have common sense, and know that any kind of beat down is bad, by anyone of ANY color, its fair to think that the blacks should be suspended just like the white kids were when they beat the a black boy.
I didn't hear of any black who was beaten by anyone. I've heard lots of rumors but how do you know this happened? Did a white boy beat up a black boy? What I keep hearing about this is that blacks want the Jena 6 to not be held accountable for their acts. No matter what the surrounding circumstances were, they should be held accountable for what they did. If any white physically assaulted any blacks, they should also be held accountable.
That's because you're basing it on what you HEARD ONLY. I know about it because I READ and watch the news. A COUPLE of white boys beat up a black boy. NO they don't want them NOT to be held accountable for their actions,they want them to be treated the same way the white boys were when they got 3 days suspension for the same kind of attack. They dont' want the Jena 6 not to pay for the beating they gave the white boy. As a matter of fact, the white boys were given a slap on the wrists for a battery charge, then they were let go and suspended from school for 3 days and that was the extent of their punishment.
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I wonder who is going to pay for all the damages, loss of business and expenses the black mob created by marching through Jena. Of course when the Jena 6 are released and commit further crimes these so called civil rights leaders will take no responsibility for their actions. They will not compensate the victims and will serve no jail time for enabling members of the Jena 6 to commit further felonies.
My question is this? Would a civil rights bail make sense. While this is not one of the cases, there are cases where people's civil rights are violated. Sharpton and friends could place a deposit into an interest accrued account to have these monsters released on a probation before judgment. The one condition of release is that the Jena 6 do not commit any further felonies for a period of three years. As soon as one of them commits a felony, the money is forfeited and the Jena 6 all get locked up a long time.
Another option would be to set the Jena 6 free under the condition that they leave the country and never come back. Member nations that are pressing the town of Jena to set these monsters free should be thrilled to receive them.
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I wonder who is going to pay for all the damages, loss of business and expenses the black mob created by marching through Jena.
Since when have blacks worried about other peoples' property or being morally responsible?
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The wiite kids just wanted a space they could call their own. The apes decided that was racist. But if the situation was reversed, the apes would be crying racism that the whites invaded their space.
The noose was just a friendly reminder for the apes to back off, that's all
Why don't you stop being stubborn and mean for a second. How in the world is hanging a noose or three a "friendly" reminder? Have you seen the hangings of blacks in the past? And do you understand that the nooses were put there as a physical threat, to let the black boys know that they'd possibly be hanged if they sat at "A TREE" again? Racial tention is never good for anyone. And this thing with looking past the nooses ever being tied to the tree is crazy. Who in their right mind would look at that as a joke... besides you and the Superintendent of the school system in Louisiana?
It sure kept your kind in their place in the 50s, didn't it? :)
Where was it carved in stone that the apes could INVADE THE WHITE STUDENTS SPACE?
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I wonder who is going to pay for all the damages, loss of business and expenses the black mob created by marching through Jena.
Since when have blacks worried about other peoples' property or being morally responsible?
"It be mine because Whitey be oppressin' me!"
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I wonder who is going to pay for all the damages, loss of business and expenses the black mob created by marching through Jena. Of course when the Jena 6 are released and commit further crimes these so called civil rights leaders will take no responsibility for their actions. They will not compensate the victims and will serve no jail time for enabling members of the Jena 6 to commit further felonies.
My question is this? Would a civil rights bail make sense. While this is not one of the cases, there are cases where people's civil rights are violated. Sharpton and friends could place a deposit into an interest accrued account to have these monsters released on a probation before judgment. The one condition of release is that the Jena 6 do not commit any further felonies for a period of three years. As soon as one of them commits a felony, the money is forfeited and the Jena 6 all get locked up a long time.
Another option would be to set the Jena 6 free under the condition that they leave the country and never come back. Member nations that are pressing the town of Jena to set these monsters free should be thrilled to receive them.
Spoken like a true racist. You aren't even touching on the fact that some white boys from the same school beat up one of the Jena 6 and only served 3 days of suspension away from school. Are you a KKK member, because you speak like one.
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Erica, did the white boy beat up the black boy of the 'Jena 6' to the point where the black boy became unconscious and where it looked like it was the white boy's intention to kill the black boy? The 'Jena 6' are charged with attempted murder because they beat up their victim until he became unconscious and still they continued to kick him. They will have their day in court to prove that it waas not their intention to kill the white boy, although I do not think there is any defence they can come up with that will fly in court to explain their behaviour.
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Erica, did the white boy beat up the black boy of the 'Jena 6' to the point where the black boy became unconscious and where it looked like it was the white boy's intention to kill the black boy? The 'Jena 6' are charged with attempted murder because they beat up their victim until he became unconscious and still they continued to kick him. They will have their day in court to prove that it waas not their intention to kill the white boy, although I do not think there is any defence they can come up with that will fly in court to explain their behaviour.
G-d Bless Reed Walters for having the courage to stand up to apes like Jesse Jackson and Sharpton and SHAME in any self-hating Jews involved with helping these six ape thugs!
If I was Walters, I'd add more charges just to teach these outsiders a lesson!
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I wonder who is going to pay for all the damages, loss of business and expenses the black mob created by marching through Jena. Of course when the Jena 6 are released and commit further crimes these so called civil rights leaders will take no responsibility for their actions. They will not compensate the victims and will serve no jail time for enabling members of the Jena 6 to commit further felonies.
My question is this? Would a civil rights bail make sense. While this is not one of the cases, there are cases where people's civil rights are violated. Sharpton and friends could place a deposit into an interest accrued account to have these monsters released on a probation before judgment. The one condition of release is that the Jena 6 do not commit any further felonies for a period of three years. As soon as one of them commits a felony, the money is forfeited and the Jena 6 all get locked up a long time.
Another option would be to set the Jena 6 free under the condition that they leave the country and never come back. Member nations that are pressing the town of Jena to set these monsters free should be thrilled to receive them.
Spoken like a true racist. You aren't even touching on the fact that some white boys from the same school beat up one of the Jena 6 and only served 3 days of suspension away from school. Are you a KKK member, because you speak like one.
How is asking people who financially damage a town to pay for the damages racist.
Asking the so called civil rights leaders to take responsibility for their actions should also be appropiate.
Asking the Jena 6 to leave the country is not racist either, because I want the same rules to be applied to whites and everyone else.
You aren't even touching on the fact that some white boys from the same school beat up one of the Jena 6 and only served 3 days of suspension away from school.
I am not a racist. I agree that this is wrong in both cases and the whites that attacked the blacks should also be punished for their crimes. I also agree that those who placed the nooses should be punished for it. I also believe that blacks should have the right to defend themselves the same as whites when their lives are threatened.
I did not mention your fact because:
1: I was unaware of it.
2: No direct link has been made between Justin Barker and either of these two incidents, besides the angry crowd using it to elevate emotions. If you can prove that the Jena 6 attacked him in a reasonable form of self-defense(and not just to deliver a message to white people) I will take your side in this argument.
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They had a news report on it, amazing how they try to make the blacks out to be victims. This is a hate crime against a white kid, the 6 blacks should be sentenced to the fullest maximum sentence allowable under law.
Part 1
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kSUAl_CImBU
Part 2
http://youtube.com/watch?v=d_rntP6iw4U&mode=related&search=
Part 3
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GDufKvCUlSM&mode=related&search=
Part 4
http://youtube.com/watch?v=d2h0pIpn4SA&mode=related&search=
Part 5
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KxNsIy5xpFA&mode=related&search=
Part 6
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KGSVnZyz77Q&mode=related&search=
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I'm against "hate crimes" as GWB was, I'm for old justice; If you murder a man,or try to do this; you got a fine tie made from rope. ::) They coud use the this tree. ::)
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I'm against "hate crimes" as GWB was, I'm for old justice; If you murder a man,or try to do this; you got a fine tie made from rope. ::) They coud use the this tree. ::)
Then they should do the same thing to the white kids who beat up the black boy before the Jena 6 incident.
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Justice should be applied equally too all . Race does not matter.
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Justice should be applied equally too all . Race does not matter.
That's all I'm saying. ALL involved were guilty of fighting.
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To me the saddest part of this is that most of the people defending the blacks are liberal Jews. Too often Jews go for non-Jewish causes and all too often anti-Jewish ones. Why are my people so blind!??
Worst are the Jews who claim that rights for blacks is a Jewish concept. It is because of those Jews that the young Jew of today rejects Judaism, for the young Jew recognizes this lie and rejects Judaism as a whole and embraces simply liberalism.
It saddens me to say such things but they are true and we must point them out in the hopes that one day we will wake up and see what is a Jewish cause and what is not a Jewish cause.
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Justice should be applied equally too all . Race does not matter.
That's all I'm saying. ALL involved were guilty of fighting.
One boy atacked six. Hmmm... What fight are you talkin' about?
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To me the saddest part of this is that most of the people defending the blacks are liberal Jews. Too often Jews go for non-Jewish causes and all too often anti-Jewish ones. Why are my people so blind!??
Worst are the Jews who claim that rights for blacks is a Jewish concept. It is because of those Jews that the young Jew of today rejects Judaism, for the young Jew recognizes this lie and rejects Judaism as a whole and embraces simply liberalism.
It saddens me to say such things but they are true and we must point them out in the hopes that one day we will wake up and see what is a Jewish cause and what is not a Jewish cause.
Thank G-d I woke up and shed my self-hating Liberalism!
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Justice should be applied equally too all . Race does not matter.
That's all I'm saying. ALL involved were guilty of fighting.
One boy atacked six. Hmmm... What fight are you talkin' about?
No 3 or more white kids attacked ONE of the six boys a couple days before the 6 participated in the beating of the white boy. A white kid also went to his vehicle to get a sawed off shot gun to shoot the black kids also...If I'm not mistaken, its unlawful for a minor to have access to a weapon like that.....Attempted murder my foot. The guy got up after that beating and went to school that evening! This wouldn't be good at all, but if he had been put into a coma, I'd be on board for trying the 6 for a longer sentence. But the problem is that you can't punish the white kids with 3 days of suspension out of school and sentence the black boys to 22 years in prison for doing the same dirty deed. That's not fair. They all need some kind of sensitivity class. Neither of them are moving from Lousiana, the least they can do is learn to live together.
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No 3 or more white kids attacked ONE of the six boys a couple days before the 6 participated in the beating of the white boy. A white kid also went to his vehicle to get a sawed off shot gun to shoot the black kids also...If I'm not mistaken, its unlawful for a minor to have access to a weapon like that.....Attempted murder my foot. The guy got up after that beating and went to school that evening! This wouldn't be good at all, but if he had been put into a coma, I'd be on board for trying the 6 for a longer sentence. But the problem is that you can't punish the white kids with 3 days of suspension out of school and sentence the black boys to 22 years in prison for doing the same dirty deed. That's not fair. They all need some kind of sensitivity class. Neither of them are moving from Lousiana, the least they can do is learn to live together.
I'm sure there was a history of bad incidents that happened in that town. Hey, bad things happen in every town, but just compare the crime rate in Jena to any all-black town of comparable size. Note how the store owners in Jena had no need for bars on their windows until maybe now.
Despite everything bad that happened, what did Justin Barker to in particular that warranted his beating? Was he a racist that threatened the life of someone in Jena 6? Did he tie one of the nooses. Did he threaten a black with a shotgun. Did he initiate the attack? I don't want to hear about what some other person did, I just want to know, Did Justin Barker do anything in particular to warrant the beating? By my books, he is innocent until proven guilty.
If you want to fight all the other social injustice, you are welcome to as no crime should go unpunished. Just don't use them to justify the beating of an innocent person.
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To me the saddest part of this is that most of the people defending the blacks are liberal Jews. Too often Jews go for non-Jewish causes and all too often anti-Jewish ones. Why are my people so blind!??
Worst are the Jews who claim that rights for blacks is a Jewish concept. It is because of those Jews that the young Jew of today rejects Judaism, for the young Jew recognizes this lie and rejects Judaism as a whole and embraces simply liberalism.
It saddens me to say such things but they are true and we must point them out in the hopes that one day we will wake up and see what is a Jewish cause and what is not a Jewish cause.
Thank G-d I woke up and shed my self-hating Liberalism!
If only more Jews would.....
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No 3 or more white kids attacked ONE of the six boys a couple days before the 6 participated in the beating of the white boy. A white kid also went to his vehicle to get a sawed off shot gun to shoot the black kids also...If I'm not mistaken, its unlawful for a minor to have access to a weapon like that.....Attempted murder my foot. The guy got up after that beating and went to school that evening! This wouldn't be good at all, but if he had been put into a coma, I'd be on board for trying the 6 for a longer sentence. But the problem is that you can't punish the white kids with 3 days of suspension out of school and sentence the black boys to 22 years in prison for doing the same dirty deed. That's not fair. They all need some kind of sensitivity class. Neither of them are moving from Lousiana, the least they can do is learn to live together.
I'm sure there was a history of bad incidents that happened in that town. Hey, bad things happen in every town, but just compare the crime rate in Jena to any all-black town of comparable size. Note how the store owners in Jena had no need for bars on their windows until maybe now.
Despite everything bad that happened, what did Justin Barker to in particular that warranted his beating? Was he a racist that threatened the life of someone in Jena 6? Did he tie one of the nooses. Did he threaten a black with a shotgun. Did he initiate the attack? I don't want to hear about what some other person did, I just want to know, Did Justin Barker do anything in particular to warrant the beating? By my books, he is innocent until proven guilty.
If you want to fight all the other social injustice, you are welcome to as no crime should go unpunished. Just don't use them to justify the beating of an innocent person.
Both incidents were different...Justin Barker was indeed being prejudiced against the boys (which is what started THAT fight) but the point is that those different incidents were treated differently by the same court system. The white person is ALWAYS innocent until proven guilty.. the black person, not so much. There is always suspicion that they MAY HAVE done it (any crime). In this case, though, both white and black teens fought but were treated differently.
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Justice should be applied equally too all . Race does not matter.
That's all I'm saying. ALL involved were guilty of fighting.
One boy atacked six. Hmmm... What fight are you talkin' about?
No 3 or more white kids attacked ONE of the six boys a couple days before the 6 participated in the beating of the white boy. A white kid also went to his vehicle to get a sawed off shot gun to shoot the black kids also...If I'm not mistaken, its unlawful for a minor to have access to a weapon like that.....Attempted murder my foot. The guy got up after that beating and went to school that evening! This wouldn't be good at all, but if he had been put into a coma, I'd be on board for trying the 6 for a longer sentence. But the problem is that you can't punish the white kids with 3 days of suspension out of school and sentence the black boys to 22 years in prison for doing the same dirty deed. That's not fair. They all need some kind of sensitivity class. Neither of them are moving from Lousiana, the least they can do is learn to live together.
The problem is that it was not the same dirty deed. Three boys beating up on one boy is not the same as 6 boys beating one boy to the point of losing consciousness and then continuing to beat him. It's VERY different.
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These blacks are only following in the footsteps of their heros. The Carr brothers, the Zebra killers, OJ, and the rest of the murderers they worship. It was a horrible mistake to bring these creatures to the former great USA. We have been cursed by their presence. They cannot adapt to a civilized society and I firmally believe that it isn't their fault. They cannot think in a logical manner. Try and teach a black C++ progamming and see what happens. They cannot get the code or the proper sequence of the statements. They are not intellectually up to it. Is it any wonder that they would not be up to the code of society ethics? Of course not all blacks are like that but I would say over 99 percent of them cannot fit into a working society. If we had any type of compassion for these poor creatures we would give them the high tech reservations where they could live out thier lives in a hip hop manner. We could air drop them mac and cheese, crack, malt liquor, cheap wine, a cadre of sterilzed white sluts like you see on Springer and most of the liberals that infest our news channels. They can curse, rob, rape and kill each other without any type of white interferrance. This what will make them happy and it will make white society safer and less apprehensive as to working, riding public transportation, and sending our children to school. It is the only thing to do for these poor creatures.
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Both incidents were different...Justin Barker was indeed being prejudiced against the boys (which is what started THAT fight) but the point is that those different incidents were treated differently by the same court system. The white person is ALWAYS innocent until proven guilty.. the black person, not so much. There is always suspicion that they MAY HAVE done it (any crime). In this case, though, both white and black teens fought but were treated differently.
How was Justin Barker prejudice? Does that fact that he was attacked automatically make him prejudice? What did he do to deserve what he got? Your second argument would hold more weight if the protesters were fighting against what really was unjust instead of trying to get some criminals released so they can commit more crimes.
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Both incidents were different...Justin Barker was indeed being prejudiced against the boys (which is what started THAT fight) but the point is that those different incidents were treated differently by the same court system. The white person is ALWAYS innocent until proven guilty.. the black person, not so much. There is always suspicion that they MAY HAVE done it (any crime). In this case, though, both white and black teens fought but were treated differently.
How was Justin Barker prejudice? Does that fact that he was attacked automatically make him prejudice? What did he do to deserve what he got? Your second argument would hold more weight if the protesters were fighting against what really was unjust instead of trying to get some criminals released so they can commit more crimes.
Well no doubt because he was white and living in Jena, why he just HAD to be racist and he had to be jumped by the six apes!
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These blacks are only following in the footsteps of their heros. The Carr brothers, the Zebra killers, OJ, and the rest of the murderers they worship. It was a horrible mistake to bring these creatures to the former great USA. We have been cursed by their presence. They cannot adapt to a civilized society and I firmally believe that it isn't their fault. They cannot think in a logical manner. Try and teach a black C++ progamming and see what happens. They cannot get the code or the proper sequence of the statements. They are not intellectually up to it. Is it any wonder that they would not be up to the code of society ethics? Of course not all blacks are like that but I would say over 99 percent of them cannot fit into a working society. If we had any type of compassion for these poor creatures we would give them the high tech reservations where they could live out thier lives in a hip hop manner. We could air drop them mac and cheese, crack, malt liquor, cheap wine, a cadre of sterilzed white sluts like you see on Springer and most of the liberals that infest our news channels. They can curse, rob, rape and kill each other without any type of white interferrance. This what will make them happy and it will make white society safer and less apprehensive as to working, riding public transportation, and sending our children to school. It is the only thing to do for these poor creatures.
And who are the noose hanging, black boy beating, white boys mimicking? Their forefathers...everyone involved in the KKK. There is racial tension in Lousiana YES but guess what, you just made my point. There is a lot of racism HERE in this site, in this forum, in this THREAD also. You just demonized the black kids and held up the white kids as if they were heroes.
Those same lwhite boys were probably into dragging black people in their pick ups, drinking beer by the case while driving, *Carry sawed off shot guns in their vehicles", Scream "WHITE POWER" after every beat down of a black person, mix crystal meth...use and sell it, also... huff from aerosol cans to get a high, drink Nyquil to get high, sniff gasoline to get high, and OTHER things that make racist white people TRASH.
Now I will reiterate... WHAT BOTH SETS OF TEENS DID WAS DEPLORABLE, but both should have gotten the same treatment. By not punishing the boys for hanging the nooses, the superintendent of Lousiana's schools was saying that it is quite okay for there to be racial tention in his schools. For the prosecutor to only call for 'simple' battery for the beat down the white kids gave to that black boy and THEN turn around and ask for 22 to LIfe for what the black boys did (ESPECIALLY WHEN THE WHITE KID GOT UP, WENT HOME, CHANGED AND WENT BACK TO SCHOOL to attend a school function!!!) is UNFAIR.
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Sensitivity Training ::)
Oh - Erica - give me a break.
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Sensitivity Training ::)
Oh - Erica - give me a break.
You're way past the need for that bullcat. I'm proposing it for students / kids who have trouble getting along with other children of other races. The main reason why there are teen racists is because their parents are racists also. Because the parents behave like idiots, their children repeat what they do.
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There were plenty of white people that we lynched, it is not only the blacks that this type of punishment wes used. Of course there are whites that take drugs, so what. They are only learning this from their black peers. How many blacks have been dragged behind cars? Millions, billions? How many? Compare the amount of black on white crime compared to white on black crime. Compare the rapes committed by blacks on white women as opposed to white on black. The reason that whites have taken drastic action is because law enforcement has deserted us. This white kids know that whatever is done by blacks will be forgiven and nothing will be done. The one black has four arrests for assault already. How many is enough. The white kids had a 'white tree' because it was the only place they felt where there would be no blacks, where the whites would have their own space. Everywhere you go the blacks have forced their way into, destroying white neighborhoods, infesting movie houses, making malls unsafe and public transportation unbearable. I say that Jena should make a collection and give these to these little black angels and their families and make them leave this country. Just pay them off to go away. I never thought I would be for reparations, but if it will get blacks out of this country, so be it.
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Sensitivity Training ::)
Oh - Erica - give me a break.
You're way past the need for that bullcat. I'm proposing it for students / kids who have trouble getting along with other children of other races. The main reason why there are teen racists is because their parents are racists also. Because the parents behave like idiots, their children repeat what they do.
You act as if these young people don't have eyes and ears.
Is it only the white children being raised racist? I'm just curious are blacks racist?
If people behaved better there would probably be less racism...if you know what I mean.
It's simple...people have to teach their children MORALS. How to be a productive member of Society. How about that? Simple.
Sensitivity Training - just another useless term you find in a book. Not everyone is going to like everyone else...ain't happening. Learning to live a moral productive life is the key.
That is what will break the barrier between the races. The ball is being held by the black people but they can't run with it. They just perpetuate the same problems generation after generation.
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Sensitivity Training ::)
Oh - Erica - give me a break.
You're way past the need for that bullcat. I'm proposing it for students / kids who have trouble getting along with other children of other races. The main reason why there are teen racists is because their parents are racists also. Because the parents behave like idiots, their children repeat what they do.
You act as if these young people don't have eyes and ears.
Is it only the white children being raised racist? I'm just curious are blacks racist?
If people behaved better there would probably be less racism...if you know what I mean.
It's simple...people have to teach their children MORALS. How to be a productive member of Society. How about that? Simple.
Sensitivity Training - just another useless term you find in a book. Not everyone is going to like everyone else...ain't happening. Learning to live a moral productive life is the key.
That is what will break the barrier between the races. The ball is being held by the black people but they can't run with it. They just perpetuate the same problems generation after generation.
The problem as I see it is that Evil blacks are not satisfied with equal rights they want to turn the tables on whites. They want to take the olive branch away from white folks and beat them to death with it. They want to do as they please and in addition to that expect white folks and other productive members of society to be at their beckoned call and whims. Why is it that smart successful blacks always seek to get as far away from mainstream black society as possible? Could it be they see the evil there like white folks do? Why is it that black folks can go to a white function with hundreds of white folks and be treated with respect and be treated as part of the group could a white person go to a similar black function? Erica I don't have children however do you think if I did I would have my child attending some diversity program in school that would leave them defenseless against evil blacks and other evil folks later in life without undoing everything they were told in that class each day? Moreover most young folks aren't dumb unless they are also of an evil bend they will see the evil blacks for what they are despite any diversity or sensitivity course. The course thats needed is how can we get evil blacks and other lowlife people to act civilized that would go a long way in improving society's ills
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And why do the so called civil rights leaders only fight for the rights of evil blacks. If they truly wanted to advance their race, they would fight for the rights of good blacks instead of evil ones. The ones who don't commit crimes, excel in school, and work hard to advance their careers in the best jobs they can perform(by merit). If the blacks encouraged their bottom 10% to leave this country and the rest to find jobs for themselves, they would be helping themselves instead of handicapping their people.
They would also be helping the third world countries that the bottom 10% move to because of the wonderful free public school education which American tax payers pay for in this country.
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Sensitivity Training ::)
Oh - Erica - give me a break.
You're way past the need for that bullcat. I'm proposing it for students / kids who have trouble getting along with other children of other races. The main reason why there are teen racists is because their parents are racists also. Because the parents behave like idiots, their children repeat what they do.
You act as if these young people don't have eyes and ears.
Is it only the white children being raised racist? I'm just curious are blacks racist?
If people behaved better there would probably be less racism...if you know what I mean.
It's simple...people have to teach their children MORALS. How to be a productive member of Society. How about that? Simple.
Sensitivity Training - just another useless term you find in a book. Not everyone is going to like everyone else...ain't happening. Learning to live a moral productive life is the key.
That is what will break the barrier between the races. The ball is being held by the black people but they can't run with it. They just perpetuate the same problems generation after generation.
Of course there are blacks who are racist. I was speaking of BOTH sides going to sensitivity training not just the whites. There are black parents raising their children to fear and hate white people, and that's not right. Morals are more than just abstinence, and saying no to drugs. Having a good moral core also means respecting your fellow man and learning to get use to or getting to know the differences around you whether they are black or white. The ball is being held by all of us, bullcat.
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And why do the so called civil rights leaders only fight for the rights of evil blacks. If they truly wanted to advance their race, they would fight for the rights of good blacks instead of evil ones. The ones who don't commit crimes, excel in school, and work hard to advance their careers in the best jobs they can perform(by merit). If the blacks encouraged their bottom 10% to leave this country and the rest to find jobs for themselves, they would be helping themselves instead of handicapping their people.
They would also be helping the third world countries that the bottom 10% move to because of the wonderful free public school education which American tax payers pay for in this country.
I can't explain why Al Sharpton is always at the forefront of all of these rallies and marches...he just seems like a glory hound to me...He doesn't look at situations like these objectively. He just jumps in like a grand instigator and its rather tiring to watch.
And I need to point out that there are white kids attending FREE public schools also. The taxpayers are paying for a lot of white kids' FREE education also.
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Sensitivity Training ::)
Oh - Erica - give me a break.
You're way past the need for that bullcat. I'm proposing it for students / kids who have trouble getting along with other children of other races. The main reason why there are teen racists is because their parents are racists also. Because the parents behave like idiots, their children repeat what they do.
You act as if these young people don't have eyes and ears.
Is it only the white children being raised racist? I'm just curious are blacks racist?
If people behaved better there would probably be less racism...if you know what I mean.
It's simple...people have to teach their children MORALS. How to be a productive member of Society. How about that? Simple.
Sensitivity Training - just another useless term you find in a book. Not everyone is going to like everyone else...ain't happening. Learning to live a moral productive life is the key.
That is what will break the barrier between the races. The ball is being held by the black people but they can't run with it. They just perpetuate the same problems generation after generation.
Apes can NEVER be racist..they say that since they don't have power they can't be RACIST...no, it's us Whiteys..and we are racist even if we don't know it.
All we have to do to atone for is it is to give in to the ape demands
Hey Mammy Erica...go watch the movies "White Man's Burden" or "Soul Man"..
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As of two years ago sharpton's 'salary' was over 650 thousand dollars. When asked where the money came from he said it was from 'love donations'. It is interesting to read about the phoney rev. He said he was a rev at the age of nine. No. He went around with his drunken drugged up phoney rev father and that is where he started 'preaching'. In one of his books, I believe it was 'Go tell Pharoh' he admitted that the other phoney rev jesse baptised him and ordained him in the same day. As for jesse, he was made a rev in a basement by aretha, boy am I a pig, franklin's drunkin' pappi. It is rumored that jesse may be the proud pappi of one or two of ms. souls children. She refuses to say to this day ''who be the babbie daddie' and refuses to have the bastards pictures shown. The civil rights industry has done a lot of people good. Look at the king family. Where could they amass such an amount from a drunk, whore monger, commie and white hater. They are all worth a fortune now, since they are collecting money from the public for that obscenity they are erecting in washington d.c. for that whore, lliar, plagarist, white hater. Look at the white Jew hater andy, my best friend done be arafart, young. He is loaded. He makes the lecture circuit talkin' trash about the 'movement' that was 'back in the day'. Yes, the civil rights industry is massive. All an 'activiist' must do is cry 'racism', 'police brutaliity', 'discrimination' the checkbooks of self hating whites open up and send a check to try a cure a white guilt that they themselves have put upon themselves. So, my dear friends, just pay off the blacks in Jena and demand that they leave, so that civilization will come back to once was a wonderful white community before the plague of blacks mutiplied and ruin everything as they do in every single area that they come to.
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Sensitivity Training ::)
Oh - Erica - give me a break.
You're way past the need for that bullcat. I'm proposing it for students / kids who have trouble getting along with other children of other races. The main reason why there are teen racists is because their parents are racists also. Because the parents behave like idiots, their children repeat what they do.
You act as if these young people don't have eyes and ears.
Is it only the white children being raised racist? I'm just curious are blacks racist?
If people behaved better there would probably be less racism...if you know what I mean.
It's simple...people have to teach their children MORALS. How to be a productive member of Society. How about that? Simple.
Sensitivity Training - just another useless term you find in a book. Not everyone is going to like everyone else...ain't happening. Learning to live a moral productive life is the key.
That is what will break the barrier between the races. The ball is being held by the black people but they can't run with it. They just perpetuate the same problems generation after generation.
Apes can NEVER be racist..they say that since they don't have power they can't be RACIST...no, it's us Whiteys..and we are racist even if we don't know it.
All we have to do to atone for is it is to give in to the ape demands
Hey Mammy Erica...go watch the movies "White Man's Burden" or "Soul Man"..
I ACTUALLY HAVE "White Man's Burden" in my DVD collection now. I loved the movie. When the tables were turned, the whites were treated just like the blacks. The majority of white people lived in the ghetto and the affluent blacks lived in the rich neighborhoods. The main point of that movie is that the mentality carries over. WHites think think that blacks in the ghetto are lazy and good for nothing... the blacks in the movie thought the same about the whites. It showed that once someone gets a taste of the good life that it goes to their heads and they lose compassion and understanding. That's what I got from it.
The last time I saw "Soul Man" I was 15 years old. I wouldn't mind having that in my collection also because I loved THAT movie also. That movie meant a lot to me because it had a part in shaping the way I think about AA.
And your "MAMMY" is at home with you. ::) I'm no one's MAMMY, I'm a "Mother".
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And I need to point out that there are white kids attending FREE public schools also. The taxpayers are paying for a lot of white kids' FREE education also.
From the perspective of the student, it is not about race, but about a merited investment. Someone who gets a good education will earn more and pay more taxes to contribute to society. That's why I believe in the B or better system. If the taxpayers pay for a students education, the student should not be allowed to continue receiving the education if they continue to fail everything. This is the way that just about any company runs their tuition reimbursement programs. If the bottom 10% were denied or had to pay for a public school education after 9th grade after choosing to perform below par, it would make the schools a better place for the other 90% and there would not be many failing public schools.
From the perspective of the taxpayer, this gets a little more complicated since the tax payers deserves representation for what they pay. Ideally all races should contribute equally, but this is not the case. Where the money goes still should not be determined by race, but the individual taxpayers should have a say about where the funding that they contribute goes to.
Getting back to my statement. It would benefit the black community if the bottom 10% were cut and relocated outside of this country. Even with a failing 8th grade education, this bottom 10% is more advanced than those in Zimbabwe.
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Sensitivity Training ::)
Oh - Erica - give me a break.
You're way past the need for that bullcat. I'm proposing it for students / kids who have trouble getting along with other children of other races. The main reason why there are teen racists is because their parents are racists also. Because the parents behave like idiots, their children repeat what they do.
You act as if these young people don't have eyes and ears.
Is it only the white children being raised racist? I'm just curious are blacks racist?
If people behaved better there would probably be less racism...if you know what I mean.
It's simple...people have to teach their children MORALS. How to be a productive member of Society. How about that? Simple.
Sensitivity Training - just another useless term you find in a book. Not everyone is going to like everyone else...ain't happening. Learning to live a moral productive life is the key.
That is what will break the barrier between the races. The ball is being held by the black people but they can't run with it. They just perpetuate the same problems generation after generation.
Of course there are blacks who are racist. I was speaking of BOTH sides going to sensitivity training not just the whites. There are black parents raising their children to fear and hate white people, and that's not right. Morals are more than just abstinence, and saying no to drugs. Having a good moral core also means respecting your fellow man and learning to get use to or getting to know the differences around you whether they are black or white. The ball is being held by all of us, bullcat.
Please look up the definition of morals. ;) I never said anything about abstinence or saying no to drugs. Although it's not bad advice. Life saving measures - in some cases.
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Sensitivity Training ::)
Oh - Erica - give me a break.
You're way past the need for that bullcat. I'm proposing it for students / kids who have trouble getting along with other children of other races. The main reason why there are teen racists is because their parents are racists also. Because the parents behave like idiots, their children repeat what they do.
You act as if these young people don't have eyes and ears.
Is it only the white children being raised racist? I'm just curious are blacks racist?
If people behaved better there would probably be less racism...if you know what I mean.
It's simple...people have to teach their children MORALS. How to be a productive member of Society. How about that? Simple.
Sensitivity Training - just another useless term you find in a book. Not everyone is going to like everyone else...ain't happening. Learning to live a moral productive life is the key.
That is what will break the barrier between the races. The ball is being held by the black people but they can't run with it. They just perpetuate the same problems generation after generation.
Of course there are blacks who are racist. I was speaking of BOTH sides going to sensitivity training not just the whites. There are black parents raising their children to fear and hate white people, and that's not right. Morals are more than just abstinence, and saying no to drugs. Having a good moral core also means respecting your fellow man and learning to get use to or getting to know the differences around you whether they are black or white. The ball is being held by all of us, bullcat.
Please look up the definition of morals. ;) I never said anything about abstinence or saying no to drugs. Although it's not bad advice. Life saving measures - in some cases.
I know what morals are, that's why I mentioned abstinence and staying away from drugs. I was just adding to the subject. You can't have good morals and hate people because of their color at the same time. (this isn't about you personally, I'm referring to the white and black kids who got into those fights in Lousiana). If you don't respect yourself, you can't respect anyone else. This includes treating people of different cultures like crap. It could come back to bite you in the behind later on (someone will begin to hate YOU because of your color).
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Erica, nobody is buying your pro-black argument. Why don't you just come out and say "THE BLACK BOYS ARE INNOCENT! NO JUSTICE, NO PEACE!" already?
You can either go along with this sham of using careful tactics and language to make it seem like your for equality or just say how you really feel and skip the waste-of-time politically correct rhetoric. I told you on the general discussion board, how equal justice would be insane in this case, because the victimized white student was nearly beaten to death, while that party white was only a minor tussle.
If you are so concerned about equal justice, go down to Louisiana and join the mob.
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This affair is turning out to be a huge money making machine. One of the black innocents has posted a youtube video showing thousands of dollars he has made off his 'suffering'. This is a good example of what these primates consider important, money, malt liquor, drugs, sex and bling. This is going to lead to a movement to free all black criminal from prisons. This will also lead to reparations, the right to vote for convicted felons and more goodies that they demand. Most whites were scared to death by the numbers and the loudmouth voices that showed up in Jena. The whites are fearful that the blacks will resort to their primal urge to commit violence at the drop of a hat. There are also mentally ill liberals that blame themselves and other whties for the brutal crimes that blacks commit. The liberal thinks that by paying tribute to these bipeds all will be well and will turn these darkies from low IQ nitwits into Nobel Prize winners overnight. Take my words fellow posters, the best is yet to come.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAZQlgPO8qc&mode=related&search
Erica - What are your thoughts?
I think FJack is right as usual. ;)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAZQlgPO8qc&mode=related&search
Erica - What are your thoughts?
I think FJack is right as usual. ;)
All I have to say is fjack FOR PRESIDENT IN O8. After seeing that video in the above link I am sick. Is this what black society feels is the norm? The animals in the video are sickening they look like apes dressed up and making a bad attempt at playing human. I had not really taken this story seriously but after seeing this set of evil animals I really now feel that they should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. In all honesty if I had school age children I could not live in a place where animals that look like that populate the school in great numbers. It would be impossible for me to send me child into an element like that each day.
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Erica, nobody is buying your pro-black argument. Why don't you just come out and say "THE BLACK BOYS ARE INNOCENT! NO JUSTICE, NO PEACE!" already?
You can either go along with this sham of using careful tactics and language to make it seem like your for equality or just say how you really feel and skip the waste-of-time politically correct rhetoric. I told you on the general discussion board, how equal justice would be insane in this case, because the victimized white student was nearly beaten to death, while that party white was only a minor tussle.
If you are so concerned about equal justice, go down to Louisiana and join the mob.
First of all if I were 'pro black' I would say nonsense like "THE BLACK BOYS ARE INNOCENT!!!" In this case I'm not pro black, I'm pro fairness. If the black boys can get sentenced to 22 years to life in prison for a school yard fight, then the white kids who did the same thing to one black boy should get the same amount of time. Equal justice. But its not like that in Lousiana. The Jena 6 were guilty of beating that boy, yes. And they deserved to pay for what they did, but should have been suspened from school for 2 weeks. The white kids didn't pay for their crimes at all. The white kids weren't sentenced to 22 years in prison for what they did.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAZQlgPO8qc&mode=related&search
Erica - What are your thoughts?
I think FJack is right as usual. ;)
I don't know who that is but its definately not Mychal Bell because he was in jail when those pictures were posted. He just got out last week after being locked up for 10 months. As for the boys in the pictures, that's incredibly shameful.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAZQlgPO8qc&mode=related&search
Erica - What are your thoughts?
I think FJack is right as usual. ;)
All I have to say is fjack FOR PRESIDENT IN O8. After seeing that video in the above link I am sick. Is this what black society feels is the norm? The animals in the video are sickening they look like apes dressed up and making a bad attempt at playing human. I had not really taken this story seriously but after seeing this set of evil animals I really now feel that they should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. In all honesty if I had school age children I could not live in a place where animals that look like that populate the school in great numbers. It would be impossible for me to send me child into an element like that each day.
First of all, that high school is 85% white and 13% black. So there are no great numbers.
FJack, I don't think anyone is saying that the Jena 6 are innocent. I certainly don't believe it but the justice system there is lobsided. Whites who commited the same crime in that town didn't get charged with anything. They're not even spending time in jail for it.
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They talk about how the sentences are not the same. Check the prior arrest records. This bell is a time bomb. I don't care if he kills blacks, robes blacks and do what ever he wants to blacks. If he agrees to only commit mayhem in black areas, then we should let him and all his kind go and make sure that they are restricted to black areas. I have no problem with that. I only want to see blacks arrested when the hurt, rob and do worse to white people. Why should I pay for their prison stay. I am sick of paying anything for them.
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They talk about how the sentences are not the same. Check the prior arrest records. This bell is a time bomb. I don't care if he kills blacks, robes blacks and do what ever he wants to blacks. If he agrees to only commit mayhem in black areas, then we should let him and all his kind go and make sure that they are restricted to black areas. I have no problem with that. I only want to see blacks arrested when the hurt, rob and do worse to white people. Why should I pay for their prison stay. I am sick of paying anything for them.
He had misdemeanor charges, yes . There is no question about that. The problem is that even with that as a given, the whites who committed the same crime he and the rest of the Jena 6 committed never did a day in jail. And fjack, your post is kind of disturbing. You think that its okay for blacks to kill blacks? Why? Would you be forthcoming if I'd said the same things about whites? Probably not. Wishing death on the black community at the hands of ANYONE is just wrong on so many levels.
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They did a crime and now they have to do the time, they should really be doing federal prison time because this was a basis crime against whites.
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Blacks killing blacks are your problem, not mine. Everytime a white cop confronts a black, trouble. You can deal with them. I see no reason to have white police, fire or any other type of service to take care of blacks. You can hire your own police or use gang bangers to police your hoods. I don't want to deal anymore with this constant complaining. Let your mail order revs go out and do the law enforcement, social services etc. You can be financed by the taxes you pay. The government should send all the money that you pay in taxes back to your community so you can turn it over to the revs to pay for whatever services you need. By doing this, I don't have to hear about 'institutional racism', 'enviormental racism', 'double standards', 'prison industrial complex',' police brutality', and on and on. Just take care of your own problems and leave white people alone. We are forced to hire you, work with you, cow tow to black social 'customs' etc. I have nothing against blacks, I am just sick and tired of dealing with them anymore. I consider them hopeless.
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They did a crime and now they have to do the time, they should really be doing federal prison time because this was a basis crime against whites.
JB, I'm going to take advantage of this moment to reply to you because you , for ONCE, didn't use one ebonic term...Bravo!
First of all anyone who commits crimes against anyone for any reason is not wrapped too tight to begin with. And to be clear, fighting someone of a different color isn't a federal offense but it is prejudicial never the less. There were white teens who numbered more than 6 who beat a black boy up for coming to an all white party (which he was probably invited to). He went into the party, and instead of someone telling him he's not welcomed and locking the door, they jumped him and hit him with bottles and beat him. That's not fair, just like what the Jena 6 did to Justin Barker wasn't fair. But I'll tell you one thing, those white teens weren't sentenced to any time in jail at all. ALL of the Jena 6 served 8 to 10 months (Mychal Bell was just released a couple of weeks ago.) in jail pending sentencing. I think that is enough. And to think this all started because some black kids wanted to sit under a tree that white students deemed the "white tree". Racial tention bites the big one! On both sides. The Jena 6 were incredibly wrong for what they did to Justin Barker. They should have had a thicker skin and just let him say what he wanted and continued with their lives but they didn't let it go and THAT's why they were expelled from school. (And should have been). But they didn't deserve to be sent to jail for almost a year and then possibly sentenced to 22 years. If it was a fair deal, the white students should have been in there with them.
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Erica, did the white boys beat up the black boy to the point where he became unconscious and continued to beat him even after he passed out? Did the the black boy have any white firends? If not, then why was he there at the party if it was not to cause trouble?
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Erica, did the white boys beat up the black boy to the point where he became unconscious and continued to beat him even after he passed out? Did the the black boy have any white firends? If not, then why was he there at the party if it was not to cause trouble?
I am not up on this story 100% so correct me if I am wrong but the kid that the group of blacks attacked is said to have had no interaction with this group before he was beaten. Simply put they attacked him for no good reason.
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Erica, did the white boys beat up the black boy to the point where he became unconscious and continued to beat him even after he passed out? Did the the black boy have any white firends? If not, then why was he there at the party if it was not to cause trouble?
I am not up on this story 100% so correct me if I am wrong but the kid that the group of blacks attacked is said to have had no interaction with this group before he was beaten. Simply put they attacked him for no good reason.
Well, what do you expect from blacks like that? The blacks I am friends with would never behave in that manner.
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Erica, did the white boys beat up the black boy to the point where he became unconscious and continued to beat him even after he passed out? Did the the black boy have any white firends? If not, then why was he there at the party if it was not to cause trouble?
I am not up on this story 100% so correct me if I am wrong but the kid that the group of blacks attacked is said to have had no interaction with this group before he was beaten. Simply put they attacked him for no good reason.
Well, what do you expect from blacks like that? The blacks I am friends with would never behave in that manner.
Black folks I am friends with would also not act in that manner however the sad fact is black folks like that are a minority inside of a minority.
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They did a crime and now they have to do the time, they should really be doing federal prison time because this was a basis crime against whites.
JB, I'm going to take advantage of this moment to reply to you because you , for ONCE, didn't use one ebonic term...Bravo!
First of all anyone who commits crimes against anyone for any reason is not wrapped too tight to begin with. And to be clear, fighting someone of a different color isn't a federal offense but it is prejudicial never the less. There were white teens who numbered more than 6 who beat a black boy up for coming to an all white party (which he was probably invited to). He went into the party, and instead of someone telling him he's not welcomed and locking the door, they jumped him and hit him with bottles and beat him. That's not fair, just like what the Jena 6 did to Justin Barker wasn't fair. But I'll tell you one thing, those white teens weren't sentenced to any time in jail at all. ALL of the Jena 6 served 8 to 10 months (Mychal Bell was just released a couple of weeks ago.) in jail pending sentencing. I think that is enough. And to think this all started because some black kids wanted to sit under a tree that white students deemed the "white tree". Racial tention bites the big one! On both sides. The Jena 6 were incredibly wrong for what they did to Justin Barker. They should have had a thicker skin and just let him say what he wanted and continued with their lives but they didn't let it go and THAT's why they were expelled from school. (And should have been). But they didn't deserve to be sent to jail for almost a year and then possibly sentenced to 22 years. If it was a fair deal, the white students should have been in there with them.
I'm learning, you teach me.
Hate to tell you but fighting, beating or killing someone of a different race is a Federal crime but that only goes for when whites fight or kill blacks, if blacks kill or beat whites suddenly that law gets passed over.
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Erica, did the white boys beat up the black boy to the point where he became unconscious and continued to beat him even after he passed out? Did the the black boy have any white firends? If not, then why was he there at the party if it was not to cause trouble?
No one knows really because people didn't feel its important to report when blacks are jumped by anyone in Jena. However a beatdown is a beatdown. Anytime someone hits you in the head with a bottle, what are the chances that you're going to be concious?
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Erica, did the white boys beat up the black boy to the point where he became unconscious and continued to beat him even after he passed out? Did the the black boy have any white firends? If not, then why was he there at the party if it was not to cause trouble?
I am not up on this story 100% so correct me if I am wrong but the kid that the group of blacks attacked is said to have had no interaction with this group before he was beaten. Simply put they attacked him for no good reason.
Its said that he teased them about the noose incident and the gun incident and called them racial names before they attacked him. That dosen't mean that they should have done it at all. A level of self-control would have sufficed. They could have actually showed up the boys who beat the black boy down by not beating up the white boy. But they didn't. Wrong is wrong. I still don't think they deserved to have a 22 year attempted murder charge over their heads. At the very least, they should have expelled them from the school indefinately. The white kids should have gotten the same treatment.
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They did a crime and now they have to do the time, they should really be doing federal prison time because this was a basis crime against whites.
JB, I'm going to take advantage of this moment to reply to you because you , for ONCE, didn't use one ebonic term...Bravo!
First of all anyone who commits crimes against anyone for any reason is not wrapped too tight to begin with. And to be clear, fighting someone of a different color isn't a federal offense but it is prejudicial never the less. There were white teens who numbered more than 6 who beat a black boy up for coming to an all white party (which he was probably invited to). He went into the party, and instead of someone telling him he's not welcomed and locking the door, they jumped him and hit him with bottles and beat him. That's not fair, just like what the Jena 6 did to Justin Barker wasn't fair. But I'll tell you one thing, those white teens weren't sentenced to any time in jail at all. ALL of the Jena 6 served 8 to 10 months (Mychal Bell was just released a couple of weeks ago.) in jail pending sentencing. I think that is enough. And to think this all started because some black kids wanted to sit under a tree that white students deemed the "white tree". Racial tention bites the big one! On both sides. The Jena 6 were incredibly wrong for what they did to Justin Barker. They should have had a thicker skin and just let him say what he wanted and continued with their lives but they didn't let it go and THAT's why they were expelled from school. (And should have been). But they didn't deserve to be sent to jail for almost a year and then possibly sentenced to 22 years. If it was a fair deal, the white students should have been in there with them.
I'm learning, you teach me.
Hate to tell you but fighting, beating or killing someone of a different race is a Federal crime but that only goes for when whites fight or kill blacks, if blacks kill or beat whites suddenly that law gets passed over.
That's not true. I'll ellaborate further after I take my daughter to the park. :)
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Silly talk