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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Outsider on September 24, 2007, 09:15:00 AM
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Hi guys, I found a link on a thread in StørmFrønt about the white genocide / mass rape of South Africa, I was surprised to see a video totally bashing the blacks for what they had done to the once prosperous countries of Rhodesia and South Africa. I was even more surprised to see an Israeli flag in the background, was probably the last thing I was expecting. Video is this one here which links to your site. (By the way the StørmFrønt replys were pretty positive, though some were paranoid)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKeLoI60QBA
Anyways I came here honestly not knowing what to expect, read all of the articles at the main JTF page and was liking what I saw especially all the articles about American culture and immigration, also it was very refreshing to see you guys bashing the communist bolshevik jews (as well as whites), but I suspected this to be some sort of plot to try and gain sympathy and manipulate white people to support Israel's proxy war on Iraq and to promote pro-Israel sentiment, anyways it sparked my curiosity so I started browsing your forums and was surprised to see that you seem like a nice group of people, found I have lots in common with a lot of you, and reading a thread of yours about 'Why StørmFrønt is so popular compared to JTF' one of the comments was very logical and non-judgmental, the guy pretty much said that America's current pathetic PC culture where multiculteralism is shoved down our throats 24/7 was the root of the problem of why whites turn to pro-white forums like StørmFrønt. Another guy said that is just pure hatred which is to blame, but really its not that simple. (Like saying 'terrorists hate us for our freedoms')
Most people at StørmFrønt don't hate the Jews, we're worried about what they are doing to our countries, we see communist Jews with very high representation in European governments and politics pushing this immigration and multiculteralism which is destroying Europeans, its scary when massive amounts of third-world gangbangers are brutally gang-raping all our women in Sweden and Norway and we can't defend our women by speaking out or we'll get thrown in jail. Its scary when we know that if current trends keep up, we will be minorities in our own countries. White people only represent 12% of the population of the earth and that number is dropping, where will whites go when all of our countries will be taken over, we unlike you will have no white homeland. We see all of these Jews in our governments and both political parties, controlling our banks, controlling Hollywood and the media, so its not that big of a jump in logic to assume that there is some sort of jewish conspiracy.
By the way I have seen you criticize the Bolshevik Media, I've seen you state that Israel should stop accepting foreign aid from America (This would really help you look better and loose the parasite image ;) also saw you come out pretty strong against Hollywood as well, I'm seeing you right wing zionists in a totally different light, I though you just used white people for your own goals, but I guess I might have been mistaken as this forum seems genuinely pro-white just as much as it is pro-jew. I really wish more of you would make this pro-white attitude more apparent. Heres something that bothers me: I've been under the impression that jewish culture and religion teaches that it should promote and help out other jews and not gentiles, it certainly seems like this is true judging by how many influential and powerful jews there are in Europe and America, anyways I find this very destructive as it will result in a jewish ruling class as jews help other jews up the ladder so to speak, these jews might care about the nation they are living in, but they for cultural and religious reasons are also loyal to other jews and Israel. So a ruling class made of predominantly jewish people would have loads of power and might push America in to wars and conflicts which aren't in America's best interest. Such is the case with America and the Iraq war, does it serve America's interest to be in Iraq? I don't think so. I remember Netanyahu telling us to invade Iraq just a couple days after 9/11, and AIPAC is the most powerful lobby in the United States were pushing for it as well, if a politician comes out against Israel, or tells Israel to fend for itself they get smeared and made fun of (Ron Paul for example). The founding fathers were non-interventionists who believed we should mind our own business and not get involved in international conflicts. Americans should be Americans first and foremost.
Also its really not fair to label anyone who thinks Israel should fend for itself an 'Anti-semite.' (Ron Paul) There are plenty of good jews who support him including the late Aaron Russo (RIP) These jews are the kind of jew that we would need if Jews are to successfully live side by side with Europeans. These are loyal to America first as they should be. We can't have a tiny ethnic minority dominating the country controlling both media (power of propaganda) and the government (effectively monopolizing the country) pushing conflict which is not of any interest to the vast majority of that particular country. Assimilation is key! We are both intelligent races and have similar enough culture that we should be able to live together without too much trouble, if you choose to live in Europe or America then you should respect the sovereignty of these countries. If you are Zionists then you have no business pushing Zionism in anyplace but Israel.
Anyways we definately have our differeces, but we also have more in common than I would have thought, I still think that Europe should just be for the Europeans, Africa for the Africans, and Israel for the jews. While I can say with a high level of confidence that you are good decent folk, I still very much have my doubts and suspicion over the elite powerful jews communist or zionist. But I'll have to admit whites have the same problem with our elites unfortunately. (Thats why I vote for Ron Paul)
Anti-semitism is not caused by blind hatred, white nationalists are people just like you, we all want to protect those we care about, I'm sure when your backs are up against the wall you see enemies (real or imagined) from all sides as well.
GOOD LUCK
Things I think would help your movement out:
Do more to start openly supporting whites over 3rd world immigrants invading Europe and America.
(More movies like the one above, most white nationalists see all jews as self serving and just manipulating whites or communists^)
More jews need to take on the elite banking jews (Aaron Russo)
It will do wonders to distinguish yourselves from the jewish conspiracy!
Continue to criticize the Bolshevik jews
Also help to distinguish yourself from the jewish conspiracy!
Stop calling people like Ron Paul and others who disagree with you in some areas, but also have loads in common in others, Nazi's. This is a huge turn off and makes you seem crazy
(Remember Ron Paul is an American so he supports American interests first! Not Israels! True Patriot! RON PAUL 2008!!!)
George Bush is believed to be controlled by Zionists, so when he claims to be conservative and right wing while leaving our borders wide open he looks like a tool and a fraud, making all his supporters (O'Reilly, Hannity) look like they are betrayers of America and only serving Zionist interests.
Wouldn't it be nicer if he got rid of our minorities together? You need new more aggresive spokesmen! Savage is not bad actually
Jewish economic and political control in Europe while pushing their communist agenda makes the whole Jewish race look bad. When things go down the shitter they are gonna blame someone, who do you think thats gonna be? The ones in power!! Its unfortunate for you that so many jews are in control of so many countries in Europe, people will 'connect the dots' and take it out on your whole race!! Unfair but thats what humans do.
(My advice would be to criticize all things communist and liberal, as well as the jews who control the central banks or you will be grouped together with them as part of 'the jewish conspiracy')
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Unfortunately most of the people on StørmFrønt are in fact Anti-semitic...
I will admit that many of them have similar goals than us but it is a real worry to see them praising the holocaust while others deny the numbers of those who were killed..
Most people on StørmFrønt are neo nazi scum who identify a similar need to get rid of the muslims but for all the wrong reasons in that they feel the same way about jews are race related..
However if you support a right wing israel we indeed support you and hope you become an active member on our forum...
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First off, the majority of so-called white nationalists who post on StørmFrønt are nazi scum who should be killed. The site is a huge cult for David Duke, who is a genuine nazi. They're filthy sub-humans. And I don't think you are genuine at all. These WNs always claim to only dislike the bolshevik/communist Jews but its so obvious they'll turn on other Jews at the drop of a hat when these leftist Jews are gone. And Ron Paul is a filthy nazi who supports hezballah and blames terrorism on Israel. You'll find no support for that animal here. There's no place here for your conspiracy nonsense about Jews controlling the war in Iraq or directing America behind the scenes. As for pushing zionism, it is the duty of all righteous people to promote Torah zionism. Jews should live in Israel because God commanded them to and at the same time non-Jews should be righteous gentiles.
As for "distinguising ourselves" from anyone or some "Jewish conspiracy", we don't need to change one damn bit. We don't care what you WNs think of us. We hope you hate us because then we know we're on the right track. And you have no right to profess you're better than the 3rd worlders. You WNs are the most inbred, scummy, toothless trailer park trash of the white race. You make the blacks and hispanics look good most of the time. You don't speak for what white culture is. You're defenders of nazi socialism, not white-european culture.
You should leave the forum because you don't have a place here.
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You should leave the forum because you don't have a place here.
Unless he will change his mind .
The plots that the Nazis believe in are absord and are absolute nonsense .
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It is a typical post from a StørmFrønt member...
i don't think this person should leave but should become familiar with the RIGHT message which will resonate with right wing people...
Lets give this person the benefit of the doubt but keep an eye out
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It is a typical post from a StørmFrønt member...
i don't think this person should leave but should become familiar with the RIGHT message which will resonate with right wing people...
Lets give this person the benefit of the doubt but keep an eye out
I don't feel with the next quote of Outsider :
"Video is this one here which links to your site. (By the way the StørmFrønt replys were pretty positive, though some were paranoid)"
Nazis are positive about JTF ?
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Jewish bankers and Jewish communists are not part of any Jewish plot. They're simply self-interested individuals. Most are self-hating Jews and do NOTHING for the welfare of the Jewish people.
Rupert Murdoch is the most powerful media baron in the world but he's not part of any Irish/Australian plot. He's just a ruthless tycoon.
Bill gates is not part of an anglo-saxon/ American plot. He's just a greedy individual.
You StørmFrønt guys have really got to stop thinking in plot/ group/ conspiracy terms.
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Outsider, you sound paranoid.
The Jews don't run Europe or America. If they're rich and successful, it's because of their hard work.
It wasn't a Jewish conspiracy to let millions of Mooslims immigrate to Europe. The non-Jewish leaders did this in response to the Arab oil embargo. Part of the deal was they would allow massive Muslim immigration into Europe, the building of Mosques, the promotion of Islam in the media and elsewhere, the building of weapons for the Arab rogue states, and siding with the Arabs over Israel.
It was Jacques Chirac's government that built Iraq's first nuclear reactor. And he's not Jewish.
In the U.S. there are plenty of white liberal politicians who are not Jewish who are destroying this country, and there are plenty non-Jewish white conservatives who were for the Iraq war. It's not like little Israel held a gun to their heads and said "invade Iraq or else!"
So if you're really open minded, you would not be focusing exclusively on the Jews, but other whites whom you disagree with.
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I confess that I didn't read all of your post because it was so long.
Anyway, you might be interested to know that maybe two or three years ago I found StørmFrønt and was so thrilled that FINALLY I had a place where I could say some things and not worry about getting the "You don't have permission to access this website" icon.
And so for the very short time that I was there, I enjoyed posting some rants and perusing the many links and reading what others were saying. The place really is quite substantial with all its links and the fact that a LOT of people go there.
White (<-- I hate that word) people are so unbelievably marginalized in this society it's not even funny! Only blacks and other non-Whites it seems are allowed to express themselves or take pride in their race. It's amazing to the degree that this is a fact.
Before I hooked up with StørmFrønt I had one experience after another of going to websites and trying to give my point of view. I was always respectful but honest. And yet it never failed, I'd get kicked off the site in no time flat!!
I was like a guy in the desert starving for water (i.e. truth, fairness) and all it ever was was that White people are worthless, racist, scumbags that have to keep their mouths shut and let all the other supposedly oppressed people take their shots! Phonies like Winfrey would couch one "hate-the-white-man" show in after another and there'd be nothing I could do about it! Always the results of their lies would be that I'd run into one hate-filled black after another that I knew was having his/her mind poisoned by those SOBs in the media that were relentless with their lies and half truths, all the while smiling and acting like they're such sweethearts!!
And so after being subjected to all that hate and marginalizing I stumbled into StørmFrønt.
But guess what? Yup; they gave me the persona non grata and that was it -- I was banned!!
I made the mistake of sending them a $100.00 of my VERY hard-earned money because I was soooo happy that FINALLY I had a place to vent! But the honeymoon didn't last long as I noticed that there were a whole lot of people posting that Jews are the devils!
On a couple of occasion I *very nicely* challenged them on their views regarding Jews, and they pretty much let me have it with both barrels! I tried to mention that Jewish folks have done so many, many great and wonderful things in science, law, religion and all across the cultural board, and that we all benefit as a result. But for that I had the door slammed in my face!!
A couple of months later I tried going back and was surprised that I was allowed in. I then did what I did the first time (save for sending them money) when I found the place, i.e. posted some angry views about the mainstream media and those turning blacks against whites, and then went on to question them about all the hate against Jews. (I couldn't help myself.)
For that the door was again slammed in my face, permanently.
So there you have it; my disappointing experience with StørmFrønt.
Too bad people can't just live friendly lives and thank God for all their blessings. :-[
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I visited StørmFrønt a few times briefly, and immediately I could tell they were obsessed with Jews and nothing else.
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I only found out about StørmFrønt a couple of months ago and posted on it because it was a pro-white site with a huge audience. I saw a few neo-Nazis, but when I noticed that most of the people there were anti-Semites, I stopped posting. Some of the pro whites there are genuinely good Christian conservatives that are pro-Israel, but they're a drop in the bucket.
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They have a few good Christians on StørmFrønt but most leave after a few weeks or are banned after a few weeks
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If the "zionist ploters" are controling USA and GWB; why Bush and Condi are buling Israel to give up half of its teritory to fake Palestinians? ::) Jewish conspiracy you never know any Jews; when two of them met they're three opinions. ;D
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I read Outsider's post, he seems sincere to me, and I commend him for his honesty and courage to reach out to us in his post. From what I read, I think he has the same concerns all of us do about the decay of our nation and the sorry state of the world. I think he might have ended up at StørmFrønt because he didn't find a better alternative that doesn't have the major flaw of the neo-nazism. Didn't someone post a list of other forums in one of these threads that are made up of rightous gentiles that are fighting the good fight for America and might be a much better place for Outsider than StørmFrønt?
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I read Outsider's post, he seems sincere to me, and I commend him for his honesty and courage to reach out to us in his post. From what I read, I think he has the same concerns all of us do about the decay of our nation and the sorry state of the world. I think he might have ended up at StørmFrønt because he didn't find a better alternative that doesn't have the major flaw of the neo-nazism. Didn't someone post a list of other forums in one of these threads that are made up of rightous gentiles that are fighting the good fight for America and might be a much better place for Outsider than StørmFrønt?
Yes he does seem sincere.
And if someone did post a list of those types of forums I would like to see it.. I'm looking to meet a like-minded girl ;)
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The creatures on StørmFrønt deserve to be tortured to death. Jews have more important things to do than "controlling" or "destroying" StørmFrønt type trailer trash, the useless pond scum of the white race.
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What world famous men
said about the Jews ( From StørmFrønt )
Introduction
The Jews are the only people in the world who have found hostility in every country in which they settled in any numbers. The big question is - WHY?
Today it is taught in the schools that "Anti-Semitism" began in Germany in the 1930s after which they were deported. What is not studied is the fact that at one time or other the Jews have been expelled from every nation in Europe! When the Jews first began to immigrate to America the early colonialists in New York, Charleston and Savannah tried to ban their entry. Benjamin Franklin pleaded with the members of the Continental Congress to enter a specific ban against Jewish immigration into the U. S. Constitution to bar them for all time to come.
The Jews claim that they are "only" a religion. The truth is that the Jews are a RACE. Less than 30% are members of any Synagogue. Whether they are Orthodox religious, atheists, capitalists or communists - they still claim to be Jews - members of the Jewish race! Every race has inherited traits. In the case of the Jews they include trading, money-changing, usury, and a loathing for "productive labor" which is scorned as beneath the dignity of the Jews in their "bible" called "THE TALMUD."
The Jews have not changed since the days when Jesus Christ took up a whip and drove "the money changers out of the Temple." Jews have always united to form monopolies. Today they control all the department store chains and speciality shops along with the lucrative jewelry and animal fur trade. Jews dominate the fields of all precious metals such as gold, silver, platinum, tin, lead, etc. They will always ban together to drive Gentile competitors out of business.
Today America is being flooded with Jewish immigrants from Russia and even 20,000 per year leave Israel for the U. S. - all with dollar signs in their eyes. Jews have used their vaunted money-power to seize control of the Democratic Party and constitute over 50% of all its financial contributions. Today they are buying up more and more major U. S. companies. While only 3% of the population, the Jews control over 25% of the nation's wealth and this percentage rises every year. They are the only racial group totally organized to work for political domination over America.
Opposition to the Jews did not begin in Germany but dates back before the birth of Christ over 2,000 years ago! Study the statements made by "The world's greatest men." They reveal why the "wandering Jews" have made enemies out of every host country that ever accepted them.
StørmFrønt are scum. From http://www.StørmFrønt.org/jewish/antisemite.html (http://www.StørmFrønt.org/jewish/antisemite.html)
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If theres a Jewish world conspiracy I wish they'd let me in on it ;D
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I don't trust Outsider one bit.
But... let's give him a few days before the inevitable happens.
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OUTSIDER's post really drove me to think more about who we can take as our ally. Is anyone who is willing to help us today our ally or must we say that even if he helps us today he will condemn us tomorrow?
We must decide if we will have standards for accepting help or not, will we accept help from anyone or only from those who truly care about us and not just about those we are fighting today.
I know that in this post I didnt really provide an answer to the question, but I dont know if we should accept help from just anyone. OUTSIDER, is clearly white-supremacist scum (In that he hates Jews and many other minorities), but if he wants to help us should we accept his help? (That is my question to JTFers on this forum.)
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OUTSIDER's post really drove me to think more about who we can take as our ally. Is anyone who is willing to help us today our ally or must we say that even if he helps us today he will condemn us tomorrow?
We must decide if we will have standards for accepting help or not, will we accept help from anyone or only from those who truly care about us and not just about those we are fighting today.
I know that in this post I didnt really provide an answer to the question, but I dont know if we should accept help from just anyone. OUTSIDER, is clearly white-supremacist scum (In that he hates Jews and many other minorities), but if he wants to help us should we accept his help? (That is my question to JTFers on this forum.)
Asking help from nazis is a huge mistake in my opinion.
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Thing is, I don't think Outsider is a Nazi type, if he was he wouldn't have even bothered to post the way he did. From what I read, I think he's a guy that is as pissed off the way the country is unraveling into a turd world country as we are, and he's simply looking for like minded people. Anybody remember where those links to the other right-wing/rightous gentile websites were posted, I remember seeing them on another thread a couple of days ago but I forget where. If Outsider turns out to be a rightous gentile that got mixed up with StørmFrønt simply because he was unaware of better options, I'd like those links to be up on this thread for him to look at.
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Thing is, I don't think Outsider is a Nazi type, if he was he wouldn't have even bothered to post the way he did. From what I read, I think he's a guy that is as pissed off the way the country is unraveling into a turd world country as we are, and he's simply looking for like minded people. Anybody remember where those links to the other right-wing/rightous gentile websites were posted, I remember seeing them on another thread a couple of days ago but I forget where. If Outsider turns out to be a rightous gentile that got mixed up with StørmFrønt simply because he was unaware of better options, I'd like those links to be up on this thread for him to look at.
NewYorker , I'm not as open minded as you are. StørmFrønt is a well known site. I'll give the guy the benefit of doubt, but I do trust him, and with good reason. I am a Gentile, and would not spit on a StørmFrønt member if they were on fire. They are a vile and evil people. We will agree to disagree NewYorker :)
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OUTSIDER's post really drove me to think more about who we can take as our ally. Is anyone who is willing to help us today our ally or must we say that even if he helps us today he will condemn us tomorrow?
We must decide if we will have standards for accepting help or not, will we accept help from anyone or only from those who truly care about us and not just about those we are fighting today.
I know that in this post I didnt really provide an answer to the question, but I dont know if we should accept help from just anyone. OUTSIDER, is clearly white-supremacist scum (In that he hates Jews and many other minorities), but if he wants to help us should we accept his help? (That is my question to JTFers on this forum.)
Asking help from nazis is a huge mistake in my opinion.
On the one hand I agree with you we must have some moral standards in who we accept help from, but on the other hand, at a time when so few are helping us do we have the luxury of being able to choose?
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I like to give people the benefit of the doubt until they give me a reason not to; He could have gave me that reason in the title post, but he didn't, beleive me if he was spewing vitriol and ignorant garbage like I'd expect from a neo-nazi anywhere in that post, I would have regected the guy as a nazi troll outright, but I didn't see that, that post read like a frustrated guy pissed off at a lot of the same things we're pissed off about, and looking for solutions like we are; And you have to admit, loathsome as they are, there is some overlap on some of the issues with StørmFrønt, this guy sounds like he agreed with them simply on that basis, when he saw Chaim on the Youtube video focusing on the same problems he was concerned with he headed over here to communicate even though the organization is Jewish. Anyway, I'd hate to reject any rightous gentile if what they did was simply a mistake.
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Outsider, your post puts quite a bit on the table. You make some good points however the positions you hold about Jewish folks controlling governments in Europe is comical. If Jewish folks have all this power in places all over the globe why is it they have to struggle to keep the little bit of land they have in Israel. As far as StørmFrønt goes they have nothing to offer JTF we don't work along the same lines. Our problems here are with evil people of any race and don't judge people by the color of their skin alone. Look through our site and you will learn quite a bit. You will see that there is no other forum on the web like this. If you stick around you will come to understand that the ideas you have about Jewish world control could never be possible. To continue along that line of thinking would only lead me to conclude that you are a confirmed antisemitic with a closed mind to the true facts of world politics.
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I must say I understand what outsider meant. Christian whites have no where to join up and band together unless there is hatred involved.I consider myself an ultra conservative,yet I reject all hatred.Some people like outsider are just lost and have eaten the bait the haters have feed them.They can change and can do so with our help.
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This guy is a moron at best, a Nazi at worst. Come on, guys. He said Jews control world governments. Does that sound like a sincere ally of ours?
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This guy is a moron at best, a Nazi at worst. Come on, guys. He said Jews control world governments. Does that sound like a sincere ally of ours?
NO
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I dunno if he's an ally or not, and that Jews running the world government thing is a load of nonsense that a lot of people get suckered into believing that are otherwise not nazi's.
Besides, he has a point, I do run the entirety of Austrailia and Japan from my Queens apartment. ;)
;D
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Dear Outsider,
Thanks for your back-handed slap across our respective faces.
So far all you convinced me is that you're completely and totally brainwashed with Jew-Hating lies which have been traditionally known as "anti-Semitism".
We frankly could care less what you think about us, and you're not worth "debating" lies and garbage.
If you're in 5th grade way back in the woods and have redneck stupid parents, you at least could make an excuse as how to how full of excrement your head is filled.
So much as one day older than the 5th grade, and you're just the regular run of the mill Nazi-Sympathizer of the USDA prime variety.
Your kind's standard line runs like this:
["Hi...I'm the good Jew-hater...not really like the others...there's more than one of us...and we're only interested in destroying the livelihoods, families and reputations of you Jews...not really kill all of you like StørmFrønt tells us...we only really go to StørmFrønt because we need a place to meet others who hate Jews...I know this means I therefore hate Jesus Christ and His Apostles because they all were Jews, but the Nazis who are my friends quote Goebels and others who say Christ was an Aryan....so at least I don't feel too guilty about coming here and telling you the most absurd ridiculous lies about "the Jews" all over Europe and "the Jews" controlling world Communism and "the Jews" all of whom are the Bankers and Media Moguls and Big Money Men!!!...How "The Jews" are all at once Communists, Capitalists, Money Men, Bankers, Rich, Saboteurs, writers of the Bible, as well as Jesus Christ, my personal Lord and Saviour....well,...I have been too busy on the hate Jews chat forums to give that any thought, and besides...maybe "the Jews" just are trying to confuse me with just how confused and screwed up I am...so...I'm here because I'm really your friend and need to tell you how to make yourselves "less evil in my eyes".
YEP!....the usual crap from all you Nazis who "dare" to come over here to "take a peek" at "DEMON JEW" for the very first time....
Here's what you actually forgot....we'll beat you and your goons to a bloody pulp just for laughs...and if you don't think it's funny when we do, we'll cut a smile in your stomach before we leave.
signed
JEW a/k/a DEMON JEW CHRIST KILLER YOUR WORST NIGHTMARE
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NEW YORKER! You got me to laugh!LOL.You get the blue ribbon.
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Re: "...I'd hate to reject any rightous gentile if what they did was simply a mistake..."
If "Outsider" realizes that he is misled and has swallowed a bunch of lies fed to him by a bunch of criminals, he will return to the forum and begin to educate himself.
Otherwise, he'll just be a troll like the previous ones.
Either way, noone here must tolerate ANY of his lines of Jew-hating propaganda.
And, make no mistake about it...JTF and JEWS HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON WHATSOEVER WITH NAZIS AND OTHER GROUPS!
JUST BECAUSE WE BOTH SEE THE SAME PROBLEMS MEANS ONLY THAT WE BOTH CAN SEE, AND NOTHING MORE.
WE FOLLOW TORAH AND WORSHIP ONE G-D OF ISRAEL WHO IS OMNIPRESENT AND OMNISCIENT.
THEY WORSHIP A DEAD AUSTRIAN MAN WHO WAS ONE OF THE MOST EVIL, DEMENTED, SATANIC, AND UNINTELLIGENT MONSTERS WHO EVER LIVED.
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And, make no mistake about it...JTF and JEWS HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON WHATSOEVER WITH NAZIS AND OTHER GROUPS!
JUST BECAUSE WE BOTH SEE THE SAME PROBLEMS MEANS ONLY THAT WE BOTH CAN SEE, AND NOTHING MORE.
WE FOLLOW TORAH AND WORSHIP ONE G-D OF ISRAEL WHO IS OMNIPRESENT AND OMNISCIENT.
THEY WORSHIP A DEAD AUSTRIAN MAN WHO WAS ONE OF THE MOST EVIL, DEMENTED, SATANIC, AND UNINTELLIGENT MONSTERS WHO EVER LIVED.
Yeah, that's a given. So why are you shouting?
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Re: "...So why are you shouting?..."
Because there are some members here who don't know a Nazi even when one is posting on the forum...they prefer to "watch and wait" for the eventual "attack post" until they (and the rest of us) suffer an onslaught of indignities.
Reason for this?
They need more education about our enemies, both foreign and domestic.
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This guy is a moron at best, a Nazi at worst. Come on, guys. He said Jews control world governments. Does that sound like a sincere ally of ours?
He didn't say Jews control world governments... he said our movement can kill that perception.
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I hope you didnt mean this Christian boy, berthed by a good Jewish mother.I believe people can change.My heart is not that hardend to believe other wise.
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Re: "...So why are you shouting?..."
Because there are some members here who don't know a Nazi even when one is posting on the forum...they prefer to "watch and wait" for the eventual "attack post" until they (and the rest of us) suffer an onslaught of indignities.
Reason for this?
They need more education about our enemies, both foreign and domestic.
Even if that's the case, so what? That's the worse case scenario? We tell him to f***-off and delete his post and that's the end of it. No problem. But what if it's an otherwise decent guy? And because of your paranoia you give him a reason to hate Jews through personal experience, from your misplaced and undeserved hostility?
Look, you're even hostile towards me, one of your own. You need to cool your jets.
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This guy seems like a straight out nazi to me, who is furious that Jews would dare to stick together and has his head filled with ridicilous conspiracy theories. Even if he genuinley wanted to help us he is not the sort we should allow to join us >:(
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Politics make strange bedfellows..Its reality.
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There, are you all referring to me?
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He was probably just addressing "Outsider."
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OK lisa :)
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Time to ban the fag.
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To the Outsider:
You think your pretty clever, Sneak. I see the way you word things and twist the truth, and try and throw in a few compliments to give yourself a chance to spread your lies. If Chaim had the time to read your crap, he would give you a piece of his mind.
Come on man, what kind of fools do you take Jews for? Sneak, you know damn well that if Størm Frønt ever came to power they would slaughter every Jew they could find. Sneak, you think we're stupid. You could fool one or two JTF members, but I guarantee it, any JTF member who isn't blind is on to you. You're a bad seed, trying to grow. I personally would throw you out of the forum if I could, Sneak.
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Shadow,We are not about hate.We will know by their fruits...
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Did we ban the pedophile yet?
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lol who changed the topic title, I like it!
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It blows my mind he can come on here. The sneak thinks he's sooooo clever. Makes you wonder about the JTF members who think its ok he comes on here. They should join him.
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It blows my mind he can come on here. The sneak thinks he's sooooo clever. Makes you wonder about the JTF members who think its ok he comes on here. They should join him.
I must say when I joined I was a little surprised at how much anti-black sentiment there is here. I'm not a liberal nut-job but come on.... Stating that Africans cant run their own governments is taking it a bit too far
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.... Stating that Africans cant run their own governments is taking it a bit too far
Look at the deplorable state that african countries are in today. Do you see ANY indication that they can?
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.... Stating that Africans cant run their own governments is taking it a bit too far
Look at the deplorable state that african countries are in today. Do you see ANY indication that they can?
I think that the African people have no intention of running their governments and while they may or may not be able to, they simply don't.
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Newman: Why is this guy Lou attacking JTF about a stance we have on African leaders? When this topic is supposed to be about responding to a Nazi poster? What do you think about Lou's agenda?
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Newman: Why is this guy Lou attacking JTF about a stance we have on African leaders? When this topic is supposed to be about responding to a Nazi poster? What do you think about Lou's agenda?
I take offense at that. I am not a liberal and I am not pro-black or anything. I am number one pro-Jewish. After that I am certainly pro-American, but I joined this group because of it's support for Israel. The topic of blacks comes up because that is also an important part of the Nazi ideology.
Perhaps I am a victim of my environment in terms of this particular idea. Living in the suburbs next to leftist Jews and having leftist concepts shoved at one, while one nonetheless tries to reject them as much as possible it is impossible to reject them when they are thrown upon me more and more.
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Newman: Why is this guy Lou attacking JTF about a stance we have on African leaders? When this topic is supposed to be about responding to a Nazi poster? What do you think about Lou's agenda?
Lou's OK. He's a young Jewish guy from the burbs trying to throw off the liberal BS he's been flooded with his whole life. No agenda with him, he's 'good people'.
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Newman: Why is this guy Lou attacking JTF about a stance we have on African leaders? When this topic is supposed to be about responding to a Nazi poster? What do you think about Lou's agenda?
Lou's OK. He's a young Jewish guy from the burbs trying to throw off the liberal BS he's been flooded with his whole life. No agenda with him, he's 'good people'.
Thanks
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Alright Newman: If it's ok with you, then its ok with me.
Sincerely,
The Shadow
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Lets be civilized!
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Sure, lets invite the Nazi over for dinner. hahahahahaha
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While he gobbles up the food, he can talk about the Jews.
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You re both not gettin it.Why should we hate him when he comes to us for help?
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Is there no forgiveness of his sins?
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he said it in no less terms
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To No Israeli arabs: At least there's two of us on the same page. Man- o -chevitz!
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Les forgive and see what comes of it.
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These Størm Frønt Nazi guys all sing the same tune. But what really blows my mind is how we have JTF members who want him here. Thats really messed up.
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The Iraq War was not fought for Israel. Saddam Hussein was better for Israel than the clerical people who will likely take power. Saddam was a military dictator, but clerical theocratic Muslims are much more dangerous.
Aside from his opposition to Israel, I support Saddam in his attacks on Iran and Kuwait.
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Christianwhite, it REALLY troubles me to see you asking us to be lenient on a Nazi pedo.
I have to say this lowers my respect for you quite a bit.
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No friend your not getting it!
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Wayne, he is a faggot Jew-killing pedophile who deserves to spend out the rest of his life in a cell with three huge black Bubbas.
Oh wait, he would enjoy that too much. ::)
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At least there's a few of us who agree he's a Nazi. I'm with Chaim Fan and No Israeli Arabs.
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No Israeli Arabs- It's just a sad thing that we have members who want that Nazi around. No acceptance of Nazi's is a fundamental concept of JTF. I know that Chaim would not stand for this. I'm starting to wonder about some of the members here.
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I can't believe some of you actually wanted to team up with a person like this, or let him continue posting on the forum to see what he's all about, or wanted to forge partnerships with StørmFrønt members ??? ??? ??? ???
Some of you want to see what he posts next? Why? He already posted enough to convict him of being an all-out Nazi anti-semite!
He said, in clear terms, that Jews are the enemy of the white people and they are responsible for the beginning of the downfall of Western civilization and for all of the West's calamities.
Not arabs, not political correctness, not liberalism, not third world cultures, BUT JEWS!! He was spewing forth all the textbook anti-Semitic classics, Jews have control over Europe! Haha, what a joke! I guess the handful of Jewish governmental representatives in Europe actually control the entire governments and let governmental anti-Semitism exist as a cover for their control. The British Jews who control Britain let the colleges ban Israel, the German Jews who control Germany force Germany to make Israel give up her land, once again, in order to hide their control. The Jews in control of the Scandinavian countries freely let Muslims in, to destroy the white race also to distract the Scandinavians from the real problem, the JEWS OF SCANDINAVIA! This piece of garbage probably believes things similar to this. His ideology hasn't progressed past 1930s Germany, they still think that Jews are the main problem in Europe even though there are hardly any Jews living there anymore! This is completely irrational, and insane!! People think that we have much in common with him?
This person and people like him have NOTHING in common with us. Indeed not only that but they are our #1 enemies along with Muslims, third-world savages and liberals. We will NEVER have anything in common with him! What would a partnership with him be like, he thinks every problem in the modern world is caused by Jews? What type of possible fruitful relationship would come from this?
This piece of Nazi scum needs to be BANNED, and everyone who wanted to give this guy the benefit of the doubt needs to think hard about the error in that sentiment.
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Zev: You are right on the money. I just think the JTF members who want him on, have a different agenda than we do. I think it goes deeper
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I wouldn't say the enemy isn't within the organization, and I'll leave it at that.
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I wouldn't say the enemy isn't within the organization, and I'll leave it at that.
Your point is well-taken. I'm starting to think the same. Maybe the noahide gentile's recent rantings were not completely unfounded....
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There,I get your point.So be it.sorry
wayne{Jude}
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Thing is, I don't think Outsider is a Nazi type, if he was he wouldn't have even bothered to post the way he did. From what I read, I think he's a guy that is as pissed off the way the country is unraveling into a turd world country as we are, and he's simply looking for like minded people. Anybody remember where those links to the other right-wing/rightous gentile websites were posted, I remember seeing them on another thread a couple of days ago but I forget where. If Outsider turns out to be a rightous gentile that got mixed up with StørmFrønt simply because he was unaware of better options, I'd like those links to be up on this thread for him to look at.
NewYorker, it boggles my mind that you would consider the possibility that Outsider could be a righteous gentile. HE IS A NAZI AND AN ENEMY OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE!
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He have internet acces; can read all this stuff about what zionism is real like; read Israeli newspapers and talkbacks there; which proves that Jews are not capable of word dominance etc... Common on hear one of Chaim shows about amount of self hating jews in USA, Europe, Canada who want to destroy Israel by Hudna with oil wielding Arabs ... so he must chosed to belive these nazi garbage. Anyway People who belives that they can befriend Nazis are wrong and insane. you cannot tame the rabid dog... They will bite everyone who is not one of their precius "Aryan Nordic race". Beware and be cautius with who we deal; what if he's goverment's agent provocateur tryng to make JTF into racist hate group to bann us? KKK types is not help for us Even IF they are sincere. Shalom!
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I see where my friends are coming from.You guys are right.I be so sorry.I care not for nazi scum.I just think sometimes they come to us for mercy,Peace.
wayne{jude}
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OK, this thread should be locked in my opinion .
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I dont have feelings that are good for nazis.But we need all those that God Jesus sends to us.I once was a hater and now I have become a new man...Why cant others, Jew or gentile have the same option?Love you all,nite
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I dont have feelings that are good for nazis.But we need all those that G-d Jesus sends to us.I once was a hater and now I have become a new man...Why cant others, Jew or gentile have the same option?Love you all,nite
Jesus is not G-d do not speak such words on a Jewish forum it is highly offensive to suggest that someone who was a Kopher was G-d a Avodah Zara concept in the first place, and furthermore this forgiveness crap is a Christian unJewish concept
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I dont have feelings that are good for nazis.But we need all those that G-d Jesus sends to us.I once was a hater and now I have become a new man...Why cant others, Jew or gentile have the same option?Love you all,nite
Jesus is not G-d do not speak such words on a Jewish forum it is highly offensive to suggest that someone who was a Kopher was G-d a Avodah Zara concept in the first place, and furthermore this forgiveness crap is a Christian unJewish concept
It's also stupid concept in my opinion, but there is no need to call it crap .
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Sorry you dont agree..I was born a Jew and if you dont like my beliefs than so be it .However I dont force my beliefs on you so dont force yours on me...
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What Jesus the Jew have to do with Nazis on forum; We all need to relax we'll not agree on everything espacialy theology but some members are overreacting and not only on that issue.
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Can we please not get into fighting about theology here? This is not the place for that kind of thing. For the sake of unity, let's just agree to disagree on those issues. We have our work cut out for us, and we should not be fighting among ourselves.
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If the "zionist ploters" are controling USA and GWB; why Bush and Condi are buling Israel to give up half of its teritory to fake PLO/Hamas Arab Muslim Nazis? ::) Jewish conspiracy you never know any Jews; when two of them met they're three opinions. ;D
nazi wankers,never heard so much bs in my life u should be obliterated.
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What disappoints me about this thread is that certain Jews here don't have a healthy hatred for Nazis. Any Jew who does not immediately and instinctively hate a Nazi is mentally ill. And anyone who read the Nazi anti-Semitic post of "Outsider", and was unable to understand that it is a Nazi anti-Semitic post is not living in the real world.
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I'd known about StørmFrønt for a few years in advance. I was raised secular in my household however my father was a paranoid individual and felt that Jews should always stick together religious or not, because in the end the Nazis would always hate us and try to kill us. Taught us how to use guns and took us to the woods plenty of times. I think my dad was more right wing than some of the rednecks here in the south. He was also very concerned about the New World Order movements and who was behind it.
I myself grew interested in politics when 9/11 happened. Before that I really didn't care much about what was happening in the world. Heck I didn't really think anything about muslims or any other race at the time, I was a sophmore in highschool at the time and when the towers came down, the kids in the lunch room were going nuts blaming the Jews and the Muslims. It was pretty much a nightmare and I remember being hooked to the news talking about it online wanting to know who did it. We invaded Afghanistan and I felt it was justified, I felt pretty patriotic at that point. I moved to florida late 2002 and there was stuff on the news about Anthrax being sent to people from Iraq. There was news around March that we were invading Iraq and my parents were separated at that time, my dad passed away right before the invasion so I wasn't really in a good mood and people kept talking to me about the Iraq war. I never felt it was justified invading the country because it didn't even make sense to me at that point. It felt like George Bush was just finishing daddys war. I also didn't really have any concerns about Israel at the time, heck I didn't know anything about the country other than it was Arabs Vs Jews. I became Zionist when I started learning more about Israels history and supportive but then after talking with numerous Israelis and seeing how different they were, it really bothered me.
A lot of the Israelis I talked with didn't want to join the military and said they were dodging the draft, they felt Israel couldn't survive without America and talking to them made it seem like they were hopeless and had abandoned their religion (a lot were atheist). I didn't agree with them politically at all. They seemed like completely different people to me. I remember talking to an Israeli saying they should kick all the Arabs out and they kept calling me a racist and a pig saying that Israel is a democratic country. I critisized homosexuality in the country and the same guy said "Israel is a democratic country, we do this to show we're the only country in the middle east allowed to do this". After watching the movie Munich and seeing mossad agents keep crying after assasinating an Arab, it made me sick to see spielberg present the Arabs as victims and the Israelis as a bunch of crybabys. Politically speaking, most of my experience with many Jews were that they were leftist in nature and defended Homosexual marriage, illegal immigration, gun bans, etc. I don't understand why so many of our fellow Jews take a leftist stance?
I was insulted and called a anti-semite and a toothless redneck because of my right wing views, oh wait I can't be anti-semitic because I am born of a Jewish mother and father. I remember reading a few websites like resistance (National Alliance), Blood & Honour (Combat 18), StørmFrønt, Vanguard News Network, and a few others for a couple of years to understand why so many people disliked Jews. It seems they shared a similar view to me but the problem is, I noticed no matter how self hating a Jew was, no matter how right wing they were, no matter how anti-Israel they were, no matter how pro gun or how white they looked that they would never be accepted as a white in the majority of Stormfronts view. I got fed up with these forums because Jews were the prime target. Jews were associated as the internationalists behind the new world order serving Israel and Jewish interests first and that somehow the Jews control the media (despite the media actually being criticial on Israel during the lebanon war).
I was born in America and I see myself as an American. I won't be removed from this country without a fight. I don't like that people lump me as being a leftist communist that wants to control people, yes there happen to be some deleted up people that happen to have a Jewish background just like there are those that have Irish background or British background, etc that serve their own interests but that does not mean that the Jews are specifically behind the conspiracy. If the Jews truely had full control over everything, Israel would't be in the situation it is right now. America is amongst the most powerful nations in the world.
Lets just admit it, most of the politicians are lousy. A major reason I am supportive of Ron Paul is his stance seems to be "America First". He's not a socialist (which I despise), he's pro gun 100 percent, he wants to end foreign aid to all nations and he reminds me of our founding fathers who warned us against getting involved in other nations. Israel has got to want to fix the issues going on there, and America involved isn't going to do anything. Israel has got to become a self dependent country. I don't view Ron Paul as an Anti-Semite at all nor do I view him as a Nazi, what in specific has he said that makes him Anti-Semitic?
I hate Nazis but the problem is the word 'NAZI' is thrown around so cheaply that it has no value anymore. There are nazis out there absolutely, but nazi has become the new term rather than anti-semitic.
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The post of "Outsider" shows just how sick the Nazi mindset is. These lunatics actually believe that Jews control anti-Semitic Europe. And that Europe, which for decades has done everything possible to destroy tiny Israel, is controlled by "Zionists".
Of course, the leaders of these crazy Nazi cults like David Duke know that this is absurd. But this is the nonsense that they feed to their "Aryan" members. Their "Aryan" members are life's ultimate losers who desperately want to feel superior to someone. But the fact that they buy into to such insanity proves that they are not only not superior, in fact, they are grossly inferior. As Chaim would say, they are "dumb, dumb, dumb umhum, dumb, dumb, dumb umhum...."
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This piece of crap faggot should be hung by the balls, typical piece of trailer trash excrement. Whoever thought connecting trailer parks with ADSL was a good idea should be shot. A floating turd is worth more than your entire conglomeration of white faggot keyboard warriors. As a Jew, I couldn't give a rat's arse about controlling pieces of garbage like you, why invest all that time on mentally deficient, inbred half-apes?
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Can somebody please answer whether or not this pedophile has been banned?
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Can somebody please answer whether or not this pedophile has been banned?
We have a pedophile on the forums?
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Cohen, read the Ron Paul article Neo-Conned to see why Ron Paul is a Jew hater, and it doesnt surprise me that Israelis who have left Israel arent particularly Zionistic
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That Størm Frønt creep really made me sick. He thought he was clever throwing in a few compliments at the Jews to allow him more leeway for Nazi propaganda crap against the Jews. He must really think we're stupid.
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Shadow: "...He must really think we're stupid.."
Truly stupid people always believe that everyone else is stupid.
It's a Natural Law of the Universe!
Ever drive out in the woods and see signs reading "4 sale", etc....?
Stupid urbanites stop and convince themselves that they will "make quick work of the dumb rube"; only later do they realize that they overpaid for junk, and were outsmarted by the one they took for an idiot.
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You just know that Størm Frønt pecker head has too much free time on his hands, he must have spent an hour typing all that horsecrap. He's an unhappy welfare collector, that lives in some black ghetto.
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Good post Cohen, but I don't agree on Ron Paul; maybe he's not nazi himself but he's suported by nazis on net; and his policy of total isolationism will be disastrous for USA and world; USA shoud give up the NAU plans; stop supporting UN and EU, and make two sided pacts with nations who truly support US in Iraq and Afrganistan instead of paying for NATO shields gor ungratfull nations like France and Germany.
Seeing this new Hiltler Ahmedijan and blaming the Israel for Islam rampage in ME is a stupid in best and criminal in wordt case policy worth of Nevile Chambarlain. And about Israelis some are even worse but mayority of them are fed up with liberal postzionists.