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Title: Betting odds for democrat presidential nominee
Post by: Ben Yehuda on February 23, 2020, 09:03:31 AM
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/betting_odds/democratic_2020_nomination/

These are betting odds- not polls. People are putting money on bets that Sanders will be the nominee, and it is not even close.
Title: Re: Betting odds for democrat presidential nominee
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on February 23, 2020, 08:24:38 PM
Most likely it will be Bernie Sanders.  I feel that he will beat Trump in November.
Title: Re: Betting odds for democrat presidential nominee
Post by: Israel Chai on February 23, 2020, 10:19:05 PM
Most likely it will be Bernie Sanders.  I feel that he will beat Trump in November.

Now that's funny. Sanders will bow down and lick the feet of whoever steals the nomination from him this time, and then that person will lose to Trump. Sanders is there to bring the alt-left into the fold, but he's a joke to the democrats, no one will support him. Besides all his honesty and good-guy branding was wiped out in the debates. He also has 0 black support.
Title: Re: Betting odds for democrat presidential nominee
Post by: Ben Yehuda on February 24, 2020, 06:31:09 AM
https://www.oddsshark.com/politics/2020-usa-presidential-odds-futures

Betting odds have Trump winning the 2020 presidential election.

Title: Re: Betting odds for democrat presidential nominee
Post by: Ben Yehuda on February 24, 2020, 11:49:51 AM
The first link is updated daily.
Title: Re: Betting odds for democrat presidential nominee
Post by: Ulli on February 24, 2020, 01:54:52 PM
Bloomberg has performed very badly at the Nevada debate. Even me would have done it better.


I really have expected much more from him.

Plus he has only mercenaries on the ground. Sanders has like Trump real people. If Michael Bloomberg continues like this, he will end like Biden.

Plus the party of character assasination has not really started. Sanders people will dig like hungry dogs for a hidden bone. In the moment it looks not well for him.
Title: Re: Betting odds for democrat presidential nominee
Post by: Israel Chai on February 24, 2020, 02:50:20 PM
Bloomberg has performed very badly at the Nevada debate. Even me would have done it better.


I really have expected much more from him.

Plus he has only mercenaries on the ground. Sanders has like Trump real people. If Michael Bloomberg continues like this, he will end like Biden.

Plus the party of character assassination has not really started. Sanders people will dig like hungry dogs for a hidden bone. In the moment it looks not well for him.

Bloomberg has the charisma of a plankton and is used to yes men that agree with him for money. Everyone was saying it's obvious why he's avoiding the debates.
Title: Re: Betting odds for democrat presidential nominee
Post by: Ulli on February 25, 2020, 02:56:29 AM
Bloomberg has the charisma of a plankton and is used to yes men that agree with him for money. Everyone was saying it's obvious why he's avoiding the debates.

He is not avoiding it. He is today on the stage again in the next debate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Democratic_Party_presidential_debates#Tenth_debate_(February_25,_2020) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Democratic_Party_presidential_debates#Tenth_debate_(February_25,_2020))

It is hosted by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_Black_Caucus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_Black_Caucus) in Charlston South Carolina.
Title: Re: Betting odds for democrat presidential nominee
Post by: Israel Chai on February 25, 2020, 03:09:56 AM
He is not avoiding it. He is today on the stage again in the next debate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Democratic_Party_presidential_debates#Tenth_debate_(February_25,_2020) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Democratic_Party_presidential_debates#Tenth_debate_(February_25,_2020))

It is hosted by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_Black_Caucus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_Black_Caucus) in Charlston South Carolina.

He was before. He was taking hits for it, so he decided may as well jump in. Just proved them all right, he has no business being there and only exists as a political entity because he throws lots of money.
Title: Re: Betting odds for democrat presidential nominee
Post by: Ulli on February 25, 2020, 03:58:33 AM
He was before. He was taking hits for it, so he decided may as well jump in. Just proved them all right, he has no business being there and only exists as a political entity because he throws lots of money.

right.
Title: Re: Betting odds for democrat presidential nominee
Post by: Ben Yehuda on February 27, 2020, 08:32:12 AM
Todays odds:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/betting_odds/democratic_2020_nomination/  Dem primary winner

https://www.thelines.com/odds/election/  president 2020
Title: Re: Betting odds for democrat presidential nominee
Post by: Ulli on February 27, 2020, 09:02:03 AM
Todays odds:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/betting_odds/democratic_2020_nomination/  Dem primary winner

https://www.thelines.com/odds/election/  president 2020

Wow this graphic is very interesting. You can really see how the debate gave Bloomberg something on his behind.
Title: Re: Betting odds for democrat presidential nominee
Post by: Ben Yehuda on February 27, 2020, 01:09:11 PM
Wow this graphic is very interesting. You can really see how the debate gave Bloomberg something on his behind.

I find it interesting also. Will try to re-post regularly. I put much more weight on betting odds than these biased faulty polls.
Title: Re: Betting odds for democrat presidential nominee
Post by: Israel Chai on February 27, 2020, 07:26:53 PM
ROTFL for sure a bunch of morons bet on Obama at 1.0 lol. Man i'd milk that as the bookie like "you don't wanna be racist do you?"
Title: Re: Betting odds for democrat presidential nominee
Post by: Israel Chai on February 27, 2020, 07:30:50 PM
"Can you bet in the US?

As of now, legal US online sports betting sites don’t accept wagers on elections. This is unlikely to change by the 2020 election. Keep your browser locked to TheLines for updated sports betting news throughout the year."

Since there isn't any actual money on this you still have to take this all with a grain of salt.
Title: Re: Betting odds for democrat presidential nominee
Post by: Ben Yehuda on March 03, 2020, 02:20:39 PM
Biden favored strongly now.
Title: Re: Betting odds for democrat presidential nominee
Post by: Ulli on March 03, 2020, 04:31:29 PM
Biden favored strongly now.

It went through the ceiling.

This is the best what could happen. Bernies Bolschewiks will attack him for stealing the election and he himself has already problems with his brain. This is obvious. If it stays like this Trump is safe!

Title: Re: Betting odds for democrat presidential nominee
Post by: eb22 on March 03, 2020, 05:22:12 PM
Biden favored strongly now.

Last week at this time, Bernie Sanders was the heavy favorite.  The Democrat Nomination Race for President is like a roller coaster:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/betting_odds/democratic_2020_nomination/
Title: Re: Betting odds for democrat presidential nominee
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on March 04, 2020, 01:02:01 AM
They just nominated a clearly senile man.  They are going to regret this.
Title: Re: Betting odds for democrat presidential nominee
Post by: Ulli on March 04, 2020, 04:47:19 AM
They just nominated a clearly senile man.  They are going to regret this.

You see. Nowhere in the world Sleepy Joe would have a chance.

He has mental problems
He is corrupt
He looks and appears weak

God is helping obviously Trump.
Title: Re: Betting odds for democrat presidential nominee
Post by: UncleBourbon on March 05, 2020, 12:05:12 PM
Warren just dropped out lol.
Title: Re: Betting odds for democrat presidential nominee
Post by: Ben Yehuda on March 06, 2020, 07:14:20 AM
Looks like Trump vs Biden, and. if this coronavirus thing doesn't blow over soon, it does not look good. The virus has already had enormous economic impact. It is a strange reaction, if you compare it to the number of infections and deaths caused by the flu virus every year.
Title: Re: Betting odds for democrat presidential nominee
Post by: eb22 on March 06, 2020, 02:24:42 PM
Looks like Trump vs Biden, and. if this coronavirus thing doesn't blow over soon, it does not look good. The virus has already had enormous economic impact. It is a strange reaction, if you compare it to the number of infections and deaths caused by the flu virus every year.

I'm probably in the minority in thinking that Bernie Sanders has a better chance of defeating Donald Trump than Joe Biden.  The reasons being:

1. Bernie Sanders has much more enthusiastic supporters than Biden.  They remind me of the supporters of Barack Hussein Obama,  Ron Paul, and Donald Trump in that they attend campaign rallies in large numbers and a high % will rip / attack those that criticize their candidate.  On the other hand,  most Biden supporters are mainly anti-Trump.  That increases the chances of many staying home on election day.  Much like with John McCain, Mitt Romney,  and Hillary Clinton. 

2. Sanders is much more capable in debates than Biden.  The more Biden speaks,  the better it is for his opponents.  A gaffe seems inevitable with him. 

As for the virus,  I think the situation in October and early November is what's most important regarding the impact it will have on the November Elections. 
Title: Re: Betting odds for democrat presidential nominee
Post by: Rubystars on March 06, 2020, 10:28:46 PM
Bloomberg has been blasting the local radio stations with ads. I can't listen to the radio without hearing another Bloomberg ad. It's annoying because he talks about how we're all God's children and we should care about all the marginalized groups because of our American values in the commercial.... but he's all right with killing innocent babies through abortion so anyone who is in favor of abortion hardly has the right to talk about being one of God's children or about American values.
Title: Re: Betting odds for democrat presidential nominee
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on March 08, 2020, 06:23:01 AM
I'm probably in the minority in thinking that Bernie Sanders has a better chance of defeating Donald Trump than Joe Biden.  The reasons being:

1. Bernie Sanders has much more enthusiastic supporters than Biden.  They remind me of the supporters of Barack Hussein Obama,  Ron Paul, and Donald Trump in that they attend campaign rallies in large numbers and a high % will rip / attack those that criticize their candidate.  On the other hand,  most Biden supporters are mainly anti-Trump.  That increases the chances of many staying home on election day.  Much like with John McCain, Mitt Romney,  and Hillary Clinton. 

2. Sanders is much more capable in debates than Biden.  The more Biden speaks,  the better it is for his opponents.  A gaffe seems inevitable with him. 

As for the virus,  I think the situation in October and early November is what's most important regarding the impact it will have on the November Elections.

I think I agree with you on all this.   It seems like so far off in the future, but by summertime we will be recovering from the virus, and the economy will be getting back in gear.  So it may be that by October November timeframe we're looking at it in the past.
Title: Re: Betting odds for democrat presidential nominee
Post by: Ulli on March 08, 2020, 10:43:22 AM
Looks like Trump vs Biden, and. if this coronavirus thing doesn't blow over soon, it does not look good. The virus has already had enormous economic impact. It is a strange reaction, if you compare it to the number of infections and deaths caused by the flu virus every year.

The people totally overrate the dangers of Corona. It is like this with all new illnesses.

Our body is made to withstand illnesses.

There are only a few virus infections, that are untreated really dangerous. And to get infected is not easy.

Either you have to be bitten by an infected animal, or you have to do sexcrimes or you have to eat weird stuff, like ape meat from the dschungle.

Every virus that spreads by droplet or air is usually not dangerous for healthy people.


Title: Re: Betting odds for democrat presidential nominee
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on March 08, 2020, 04:42:39 PM
The people totally overrate the dangers of Corona. It is like this with all new illnesses.

Our body is made to withstand illnesses.



Your comment makes no sense.  Some viruses like Ebola kill over 80% of people who contract it.  They (Scientists) finally developed therapeutics and a vaccine against it, and now they are celebrating no new cases of Ebola in Africa.  The body cannot withstand Ebola without those treatments, unless blessed to be 20% of people with a milder case.

There is no overrating of anything here.  There were over 80,000 cases of coronavirus in China with no available treatments and no pre-existing immunity in the population.  Too many people died.   Human life is sacred.
Title: Re: Betting odds for democrat presidential nominee
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on March 08, 2020, 04:49:34 PM

There are only a few virus infections, that are untreated really dangerous. And to get infected is not easy. 

This couldn't be more false if you tried.

It is extremely easy to get infected.  That is why as of yesterday, 20% of residents at Kirkland life care center in Seattle (where a coronavirus outbreak occurred) have died.  20%!   And 40% of the staff are experiencing the symptoms and likely contracted it.  Many healthcare providers on the front lines in China contracted it from patients, and some died.  Right now in Italy, hospitals are being overrun with too many patients needing ICU and not enough beds or space.  And healthcare providers are catching the virus from the patients.

As for untreated, it's a novel virus, so there is no treatment yet.

It passes from human to human, so it is easy to get infected.

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Either you have to be bitten by an infected animal, or you have to do sexcrimes or you have to eat weird stuff, like ape meat from the dschungle.

I don't know wtf you are talking about?  What you describe is only the case to catch an animal virus via zoonotic transmission into a human.  Once a virus has already ended up in a human and is capable of human to human transmission (as is the case of this covid19), it is easily spread the same way a common cold or the flu is spread.  The cat is out of the bag already.  Whatever bat virus this was has mutated and found its way into the first patient, and it has since spread to over 100,000 people across the world, because it is passed from human to human now.

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Every virus that spreads by droplet or air is usually not dangerous for healthy people.

This is complete and utter nonsense.  Take it from a guy who studies the immune system.
Title: Re: Betting odds for democrat presidential nominee
Post by: eb22 on March 08, 2020, 05:59:35 PM
I think I agree with you on all this.   It seems like so far off in the future, but by summertime we will be recovering from the virus, and the economy will be getting back in gear.  So it may be that by October November timeframe we're looking at it in the past.

This is indeed the most likely outcome from my point of view. 



Title: Re: Betting odds for democrat presidential nominee
Post by: eb22 on March 08, 2020, 06:09:58 PM
Bloomberg has been blasting the local radio stations with ads. I can't listen to the radio without hearing another Bloomberg ad. It's annoying because he talks about how we're all God's children and we should care about all the marginalized groups because of our American values in the commercial.... but he's all right with killing innocent babies through abortion so anyone who is in favor of abortion hardly has the right to talk about being one of God's children or about American values.

Though a very bad outcome in the November Presidential election could still occur,  I'm grateful that Mike Bloomberg is out of the Presidential Race.  The fact that many consider Bloomberg a 'moderate' by itself made him extremely dangerous both domestically and in terms of foreign policy.  Bloomberg's Social Conservative positions,  which are horrific,  are reflective of all of his positions. 

Title: Re: Betting odds for democrat presidential nominee
Post by: Ulli on March 09, 2020, 05:49:07 AM
This couldn't be more false if you tried.

It is extremely easy to get infected.  That is why as of yesterday, 20% of residents at Kirkland life care center in Seattle (where a coronavirus outbreak occurred) have died.  20%!   And 40% of the staff are experiencing the symptoms and likely contracted it.  Many healthcare providers on the front lines in China contracted it from patients, and some died.  Right now in Italy, hospitals are being overrun with too many patients needing ICU and not enough beds or space.  And healthcare providers are catching the virus from the patients.

As for untreated, it's a novel virus, so there is no treatment yet.

It passes from human to human, so it is easy to get infected.

I don't know wtf you are talking about?  What you describe is only the case to catch an animal virus via zoonotic transmission into a human.  Once a virus has already ended up in a human and is capable of human to human transmission (as is the case of this covid19), it is easily spread the same way a common cold or the flu is spread.  The cat is out of the bag already.  Whatever bat virus this was has mutated and found its way into the first patient, and it has since spread to over 100,000 people across the world, because it is passed from human to human now.

This is complete and utter nonsense.  Take it from a guy who studies the immune system.

OK
Title: Re: Betting odds for democrat presidential nominee
Post by: Ben Yehuda on March 12, 2020, 08:38:36 AM
From Dr. Anthony Fauci- a leading expert on infectious disease for decades:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05_0zMCTXe0
Title: Re: Betting odds for democrat presidential nominee
Post by: Ben Yehuda on March 12, 2020, 08:49:01 AM
Information on the development of a vaccine for this coronavirus:

The title of the article is misleading; it will take many months at least to develop a ready to use vaccine, and Israel is perhaps not even the closest to its development. Hovever, the article is informative.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-israeli-research-center-to-announce-it-developed-coronavirus-vaccine-sources-say-1.8665074
Title: Re: Betting odds for democrat presidential nominee
Post by: Ben Yehuda on March 12, 2020, 08:53:11 AM
This website keeps track of various statistics concerning the current coronavirus pandemic:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/