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Re: Haiti Earthquake
« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2010, 12:12:19 AM »
I think Raulmarrio2000 thinks I am implying that we should not send assistance. I never said this and we should do whatever we can to assist to save those who are in danger.

Our compassion and mercy must kick in in times of disaster in order to bring Hashems mercy and kindness into the world.

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Re: Haiti Earthquake
« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2010, 12:14:06 AM »
Its sad to see the death and destruction there.  But honestly, they live in a country where death and destruction is a way of life.  Its not 3rd world, its 5th world.  Babies often dont see their first birthday.  Adults are middle-aged when they are in their teens.

This is the life they live, and its reverting to this in every black country, including S. Africa.

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Re: Haiti Earthquake
« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2010, 12:17:07 AM »
The people of Haiti have to drag themselves out of the hole that they and their leaders have been digging for decades. International bailouts won't solve their long-term problems. Perhaps this is a way Gd is saying, "See here, you will wind up like this wretched country if you don't change your ways."
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Re: Haiti Earthquake
« Reply #28 on: January 15, 2010, 12:19:51 AM »
The people of Haiti have to drag themselves out of the hole that they and their leaders have been digging for decades. International bailouts won't solve their long-term problems. Perhaps this is a way Gd is saying, "See here, you will wind up like this wretched country if you don't change your ways."

Bailouts have the opposite effect; always.  If you give money to countries, companies, people, etc, they focus their energy on their next bailout/welfare/assistance check, NOT on becoming self sufficient.

Its like the old saying.  Give a man a fish, and you feed them for a day.  Teach them to fish, and they feed themselves for a lifetime.

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Re: Haiti Earthquake
« Reply #29 on: January 15, 2010, 12:21:11 AM »
Bailouts have the opposite effect; always.  If you give money to countries, companies, people, etc, they focus their energy on their next bailout/welfare/assistance check, NOT on becoming self sufficient.

Its like the old saying.  Give a man a fish, and you feed them for a day.  Teach them to fish, and they feed themselves for a lifetime.

And look who's leading the charge with the international Haiti welfare bailout...  :o
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Re: Haiti Earthquake
« Reply #30 on: January 15, 2010, 01:04:22 AM »
every cent the U.S.A pours in there will end up everywhere but where it should.

Exactly! That's the point. People send in money to relieve their conscience, but this is just money thrown down the drain.

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Re: Haiti Earthquake
« Reply #31 on: January 15, 2010, 01:06:11 AM »
There is already heavy looting in Haiti. 


The first thing I thought of, not surprisingly, was New Orleans. Another disaster that was inked to the inhabitants' bad behavior.

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Re: Haiti Earthquake
« Reply #32 on: January 15, 2010, 01:24:32 AM »
I learned from the wisdom of Solomon the son of David that suffering is a source of
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This is so true! I have myself discovered this wisdom as well through experience.

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Re: Haiti Earthquake
« Reply #33 on: January 15, 2010, 01:33:13 AM »
The damage to the infrastructure in Haiti was very severe.  There was almost $300 worth of damage.

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Re: Haiti Earthquake
« Reply #34 on: January 15, 2010, 02:22:17 AM »
The damage to the infrastructure in Haiti was very severe.  There was almost $300 worth of damage.

Ha-ha!

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« Reply #35 on: January 15, 2010, 02:48:50 AM »
There is already heavy looting in Haiti. 


The first thing I thought of, not surprisingly, was New Orleans. Another disaster that was inked to the inhabitants' bad behavior.


I was thinking that too, Haiti, and New Orleans have a voodoo culture, and both got hit hard by disasters.

I won't be surprised when San Fran-sicko gets flattened by an earthquake, they've got two things going against them, their extremely deviant culture, and a massive fault line, they are really pushing their luck.
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Re: Haiti Earthquake
« Reply #36 on: January 15, 2010, 05:23:33 AM »
If disaster strikes Iran, or Egypt, or Pakistan I would actually be sort of politely glad that they got what should be coming to them. But Haiti is a different case. This is a hell hole of primitive savages who really are incapable as a group to organize and take care for themselves. They probably would be better off living as individual tribes in the jungles, because as a country- they get the means to do more damage to themselves.

I feel sorry for them. I think they should receive some aid from the world.

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Re: Haiti Earthquake
« Reply #37 on: January 15, 2010, 07:12:24 AM »
This disaster should have struck exactly at the center of tehran or slamabad. Too bad it did not.
 
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« Reply #38 on: January 15, 2010, 08:52:41 AM »
Simple. They are seeing the hand of G_d in action!!


In the words of the esteemed James Manning:

CAN I GET AN AMEN AND A BOOM SHAKA LAKA!
Cædmon's Hymn:

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afterwards appointed the middle earth, the lands, for men.

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Re: Haiti Earthquake
« Reply #39 on: January 15, 2010, 09:06:02 AM »
Simple. They are seeing the hand of G_d in action!!


In the words of the esteemed James Manning:

CAN I GET AN AMEN AND A BOOM SHAKA LAKA!
I love that what does boom shaka laka mean .On another note they're sending some 3500 hundred members of the 82nd Airborne to Haiti as well as 2  thousand Marines .What happens if forced to shoot a native,will they be brought up on war crimes.
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Re: Haiti Earthquake
« Reply #40 on: January 15, 2010, 09:08:01 AM »
IIRC, boom shaka laka first appeared in an old arcade game called NBA Jam in the early 90s.
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the work of the Father of Glory-as He, the Eternal Lord, established the beginning of wonders. He, the Holy Creator, first created heaven as a roof
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Re: Haiti Earthquake
« Reply #41 on: January 15, 2010, 12:13:15 PM »
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Most of the western world countries are responding to the cry for help as a result of the tragic earthquake in Haiti they are sending money ,,medical supplies and rescue teams.
Even China is sending help.
The oil rich Muslim Arab states are giving zip.

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Muslims, it must be remembered, are warring and mindless, heartless, self-serving scum - it should come as no surprise that they are not offering any form of help to the earthquakers.

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dont feel too sorry for them  haitians killed every last white person on that island during their revolt and then drifted into abject poverty, violence and chaos!

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Re: Haiti Earthquake
« Reply #42 on: January 15, 2010, 12:25:08 PM »

Yes, its true, these savages are already looting.
In a civilised society, people see disaster, people help out.
Savages see disaster, savages see a chance to loot.

These animals are seeing the hand of G_d.
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« Reply #43 on: January 15, 2010, 01:07:51 PM »
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6989116.ece

I guess some people just have issues with the synapses between their neurons. Let's see, I am angry that help is not reaching me in a timely manner so to rectify the situation I will block the roads that lead to me. Makes perfect sense.
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Re: Haiti Earthquake
« Reply #44 on: January 15, 2010, 03:40:01 PM »
I too noticed that it took quite a while before anyone mentioned Haiti. I was wondering how long it would take before someone brought it up. Raulmarrio2000, I'm very pleased with all your remarks. Others of you who have made disparaging remarks against the victims, I'm disappointed, but can't say that I'm the least bit surprised. I wouldn't expect anything less.

I'm curious to see how Chaim is going to answer my question on Haiti this week. Several of you have already made your views clear on my question.

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Re: Haiti Earthquake
« Reply #45 on: January 15, 2010, 03:51:40 PM »
Sicking that Ireland is going to help out, and were supposed to be in a recession. How will this help Ireland? More wogs flooding into Ireland like we have with The Jungle Vermin of Nigeria.
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Re: Haiti Earthquake
« Reply #46 on: January 15, 2010, 03:56:01 PM »
I too noticed that it took quite a while before anyone mentioned Haiti. I was wondering how long it would take before someone brought it up. Raulmarrio2000, I'm very pleased with all your remarks. Others of you who have made disparaging remarks against the victims, I'm disappointed, but can't say that I'm the least bit surprised. I wouldn't expect anything less.

I'm curious to see how Chaim is going to answer my question on Haiti this week. Several of you have already made your views clear on my question.

Nobody said anything disparaging against the victims of the tragedy, at least I didn't... I simply said that this catastrophe, as all of them, are from Hashem due to the actions of the people, and our actions.

It is naive to say that things happen by coincidence or by chaos... The world is like a clock which was created by Hashem, is run by him with input from his creation man. This is not too hard to understand.
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Re: Haiti Earthquake
« Reply #47 on: January 15, 2010, 04:10:48 PM »
I too noticed that it took quite a while before anyone mentioned Haiti. I was wondering how long it would take before someone brought it up. Raulmarrio2000, I'm very pleased with all your remarks. Others of you who have made disparaging remarks against the victims, I'm disappointed, but can't say that I'm the least bit surprised. I wouldn't expect anything less.

I'm curious to see how Chaim is going to answer my question on Haiti this week. Several of you have already made your views clear on my question.

Nobody said anything disparaging against the victims of the tragedy, at least I didn't... I simply said that this catastrophe, as all of them, are from Hashem due to the actions of the people, and our actions.

It is naive to say that things happen by coincidence or by chaos... The world is like a clock which was created by Hashem, is run by him with input from his creation man. This is not too hard to understand.


It's not hard for me to understand your logic at all, yet very easy for me to disagree with it. I think it's even more naive to think that G-d did this to punish them. But I understand your thinking. There's no such thing as coincidences and chaos. I personally disagree. But hey, that's just me.

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Re: Haiti Earthquake
« Reply #48 on: January 15, 2010, 04:12:22 PM »
I see nobody is discussing what has happened in Haiti (or I couldn't find a thread). Whay is that? Have you seen Pat Robertson's comment that they have made a pact with the Devil? Do you think they are punished for practicing voodoo?

I mean, I don't buy into this mentality because Pat Robertson is no prophet...nor is anyone else on this forum...Innocent people died with the evil ones.  Children suffered...So, I make no comment on whether an earthquake was the cause of evil doers in Haiti..It's a sad situation..I hope all evil is destroyed and all the righteous prosper..
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« Reply #49 on: January 15, 2010, 04:13:44 PM »
Correct as usual.... :)

An earthquake is a natural disaster which could affect any sismic region. It's a humanitarian tragedy. It's not a time to make comments about race, neither to speculate about possible idolatry sins among the population. Haity is not at war with Israel. All the world is threatened by an even more serious human-provoked disaster due to Iran. This thread is cruel and insensitive. For the sake of Israel and the Torah, please close and delete it. Let's pray for the victims instead!

Those who engage in Black magic and voodoo are doing so in direct contradiction to Hashems desire that all humanity knows that Hashem is the only power. This is why it is one of the Noachide laws. I also know that everything in this world happens for a reason and suffering is caused by Hashem when the world is in need of correction. A wise Jew looks at the events which occur and tries to understand the reason behind them.

Of course nobody really knows why Hashem does what he does, but we should look for signs and learn from them...


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