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1021 General Category / Revava movement Discussion / Re: MOSH FEIGLIN!!!!!!!/sos... on: September 07, 2005, 02:59:57 AM
and you know this address off the top of your head because...?
1022 General Category / Revava movement Discussion / Re: Women In Green What?/ rav meir's lesson... on: September 07, 2005, 01:48:15 AM
i am not so sure you are correct, yonatan... rav meir said that vort in "never again!" when he was referring specifically to jews in golut being in trouble and accepting help from wherever it stems from... no questions asked... but rav meir was always very clear... inside eretz yisroel we have but one address for any and all of our petitions of need... Hakodesh Boruch Hu... and to yearn for help from any basar v'dam no matter how sincerely and lovingly it is offered to us is still tantamount to our demonstrating a lack of bitachon and emunah b'Hashem... look what befell avraham avinu after he made a sensible and pragmatic pact with avimelech of gerar (aza)? the satan maligned him and Hashem was forced to test avraham with the akeida just to prove the satan wrong!
1023 General Category / Revava movement Discussion / Re: MOSH FEIGLIN!!!!!!!/avichai's life in pictures... on: September 07, 2005, 01:22:06 AM
come on avichai... just admit it... you can't handle any of my argumentation... you do not possess the mental acuity nor the command of language nor the capacity for passionate erudition to seriously and successfully debate me issue for issue... point for point... so you resort to name-calling and infantile coloring book-style diatribes... what are you still in the 2nd grade? "nanananana..." next you're going to use the tongue sticking out smiley-face on me... aren't you...? ooh... so scary... please don't avichai i don't know if i can take much more of this... i might cry.... you're pathetic... and now you have boxed yourself into a corner which you cannot extradite yourself from because according to your own words you are supposed to be ignoring me... so all you have left are these self-portraits... you check-mated yourself... i didn't even lift a finger to make you appear this ridiculous in front of everyone here... i barely engaged you this past week and believe me avichai i held alot back... i didn't need my full arsenal... besides i assure you... take my word for it... you really don't want any part of me... and i mean this sincerely... i'm not trying to brag... i just know my capabilities is all... and i know you're no where near my league... sorry!
well anyway... as i always tell people who have trouble dealing with moi... "if you can't take the heat... stay out of the kivshan ha aish!"
so run along now avichai and go play in the sandbox and leave the serious dialogue and heavy discusions to us adults... o.k.? thanks... that's a good little boy... ta... nik.
1024 General Category / Revava movement Discussion / Re: Temple Mount access... "the envelope please... and the answer is..." on: September 06, 2005, 05:21:26 PM
it is important to know the parameters of the discussion vis a vis the religious community and ascending har habayit...
there are places up there that are forbidden for any human being to go... even if we were totally tahor (pure) from tumat meit (defilement of contact with the dead) via the parah adumah (the red heifer)... like the place of the holy ark... the kodesh hakedoshim (holy of holies) where only the kohen gadol may trod once a year during the yom kippur services up there..
there are other places like the kodesh (the holy) where we would be permitted to walk if we were pure... but we are not and cannot yet get to that state due to no parah adumah ashes being available to us to cleanse us from this highest level and degree of tumah (impurity)...
because of these two above problems our gedolim have ruled it is forbidden for us to ascend har habayit (i.e. better if we do not go up) eventhough there are spots like where the ezrat nashim (women's section) was... that are permitted to us even now in our defiled status as long as we at least go to mikvah (ritual bath) first to remove all other lower forms of tumah... but they still rule we should not go up because someone may wander into forbidden zones which even accidentally let alone purposely carry with it severe reprisals and punishments for this transgression... koret (excision... the "cutting off" of the soul's eternal existence) and mita b'day shemayim (death by Divine decree)...
however since 1967 rav shlomo goren and others have charted the permitted places up there and have instructed that it would be safe if guided tours only were led for prayer services... i.e. no more tourism... and therefore it should be made available for us to at least construct a shul or two up there in the permitted areas for jews to daven there...
at the very least rav meir held that if we are going to adhere to the strict orders of those gedolim who feel it is inappropriate for us to go up there now... then it should become off-limits for everyone... jew and gentile alike... and certainly no non-judaic services should be allowed up there as this marks a grave chillul Hashem... desecration of G-d's Holy Name... and as such at least the mosques should be taken down and shipped to the muslims elsewhere to their countries and the whole area should remain dormant and a human-free zone until the moshiach arrives and the third and final temple is constructed...
however... not to defy my rebeiim and the gedolim of eretz yisroel... but i for one feel that we are facing an emergency situation (horat sha'ah) for jews in the world right now and therefore we should go up there enmasse to pray... these tefilot would of course benefit greatly all jews everywhere whatever their matzav (condition of security) and i feel these dramatic and tremendous actions would enthuse, excite, spur on and inspire many... many jews to come back home to israel and to torah-true judaism... and who knows they may be the key and the very catalyst we need to finally bring moshiach... just my very humble opinion anyway... ta... nik.
1025 General Category / Revava movement Discussion / Re: MOSH FEIGLIN!!!!!!! to avichai... amnesia has now set in... on: September 06, 2005, 05:07:58 PM
hello? you are supposed to be ignoring me... remember?
1026 General Category / Revava movement Discussion / Re: avichai's charming summation of the weighty issues raised in this post... on: September 06, 2005, 02:40:15 PM
Quote from: avichai on September 06, 2005, 02:08:38 PM
More ramblings of a lunatic.
takes one to know one avichai... takes one to know one... ta... nik.
1027 General Category / Revava movement Discussion / Re: MOSH FEIGLIN!!!!!!! ignore away avichai...please, please ignore me.... on: September 06, 2005, 02:35:41 PM
talk about childishness? sheesh! but this is a good development here... leastwise in this way perhaps some others can get a word in edgewise in response to my offerings without your 2 cents stuck in and clogging up the system all the time... and your "sound advice" to me is a crock... you only offered it up to demean, belittle and deride me... you don't have a single compassionate bone in your body... how do i know? because your ulterior motives are showing through... better tuck them back in so that you don't embarrass yourself any further in front of all these good folks... ta... nik.
1028 General Category / Revava movement Discussion / Re: my immediate reaction to the rape of gush katif... erev shabat nachamu... on: September 06, 2005, 10:56:05 AM
so don't read it...
1029 General Category / Revava movement Discussion / 2 further reasons for our losing parts of eretz hakodesh... (4 total)... on: September 06, 2005, 03:51:27 AM
(note:) read finberg's piece at the bottom of the post first and then my reply to him...
thank you... you have comforted me somewhat but
remember... even under joshua we did not fulfill this
other half of the mitzvah of yishuv eretz yisroel...
even from the start of our conquest and settlement
inside eretz hakodesh we failed to comply properly and
fully to Hashem's command...
little did we know then that "masei avot siman
l'banim..." "the deeds of the fathers are a sign for
the children..." what a terrible precedent they were
setting for us... and that we would historically
follow exactly in their footsteps and just as they
eventually lost part of and then the whole of the land
so are we and will we... G-d forbid... unless we
finally rise up and honor G-d's torah by doing this
mitzvah fully and completely...
so with all of this now said how have you comforted me
just a bit?
because without your reminder of rav binyamin's words
which i know so well from his writings... i would not
have applied this following idea and lesson which does
soothe my soul... for we have not and are not really
dwelling in the land at all... we are just gerei
toshav ourselves since we won't fulfill the mitzvah to
rid the land of the goyim... we never had or still
have any of the land... we are strangers here... mere
sojourners and thus WE REALLY HAVEN'T LOST ANYTHING AT
ALL THIS WEEK... WE NEVER HAD THAT LAND ANYHOW AND
THUS WE DID NOT AND HAVE NOT ACTUALLY LOST A PORTION
OF THE SACRED LAND AT ALL...
this is a comfort to me in the sense that the pain is
still there of the missed opportunity but all hope is
not yet lost because we can still rise up and act and
get it all (not back because we never had it) but go
out and conquer it properly and fully once and
forever... so thank you my friend...
also the sin of all of us enmasse for the last 38
years or so... our sin of not going there to live also
contributed to our sense of real and palpable loss and
thus we bear some if not alot of the responsibility
for this tragedy and setback as well... and this
combined with my other two reasons which i sent out
erev shabat... now covers the gamut and full range...
there are four reasons we lost a portion of our holy
land this week... and we have only ourselves
collectively and individually to blame...
1)zenut (sexual immorality) which the torah states the
land cannot tolerate and will spit us out just as it
did the canaanim...
2)the allowing of innocent jewish blood to be spilled
with impunity and our unwillingness to atone for it
with the spilling and/or exile of the perpetrators...
which the torah says the land cannot tolerate or abide
either and also therefore is implied in the verse that
the land will spit us out...
3)our not going up to the land to live as an entire
nation from all over the world fast enough and
completely enough though Hashem gave us 38 years
(really 50) to do so...
4)and lastly rav binyamin's vort that we refused to do
the complete mitzvah of yishuv haaretz which involves
both settling jews on the entire land and removing all
goyim from the entire land...
peace out... moshe
--- Moshe Finberg wrote:
> Stop the Deportation/ Maalat HaGeula.org
> Help Us Help Them, Please donate generously.
> QUIET YOUR MIND AND HEAR THE MESSAGE
>
> August 20, 2005/ 15 Av 5765 Moshe Finberg
>
> Chairman, Maalat HaGeula (Ascendant Redemption)
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> I, like many of you, have been reciting tehillim,
> davening harder than ever, and learning extra
> portions of Torah in the hope that these holy-
> intentioned efforts would merit the miracle needed
> to
> stop the Sharon Deportation Plan/Surrender to
> Terrorism. The feelings of helplessness and despair
>
> became overwhelming as I listened to the inane
> commentary from even my "friends" at Fox News as
> well as the usual Israel bashers at CNN and the BBC.
>
> I then applied some skills I've learned through
> cognitive therapy to quiet my mind and hear HaShem
> explain that there is good to be found in this.
>
> First, I heard that our holy ancestors suffered far
> greater physical and emotional pain over the past
> 2000 years, and most remained true to HaShem and
> the Covenant. The new twist, of course, is that they
>
> didn't suffer the pain, shame and humiliation from a
>
> Jewish government in the Jewish National Homeland.
> Nevertheless, as a wise man once told me, do not
> confuse Jews with Judaism or the Knesset with
> Israel.
>
> Ok, he had my attention, and I quietly listened for
> more. Arik is not evil; HaShem hardened his heart as
>
> he did to Pharaoh in order to set the stage for our
> redemption. Then I was reminded of the following
> lesson from R. Binyamin Ze'ev Kahane, ZT"L:
>
> It has become polite custom when learning Parashat
> Mishpatim to focus on the verse "do not allow them a
>
> foothold" and to breeze over "they shall not dwell
> in
> your land," a clear prohibition on Gentiles living
> in
> Eretz Yisrael when it is under Jewish sovereignty.
> According to the Rambam in chapter 10 of Hilchot
> Avodah Zarah, "...when Israel has power over them
> (the Gentiles), it is forbidden to allow them to
> live
> amongst us. Even as temporary residents...as it is
> written, 'they shall not dwell in your land' – even
> temporarily. And if they accept the 7 Noachide laws,
>
> then they have the status of a resident stranger.
> And we only accept resident strangers when the
> Jubilee is in effect." During the holy struggle by
> the
> rabbis to prevent withdrawals from Eretz Yisrael,
> they omitted the requirement of driving out the
> Gentiles. This requirement is the flip side of
> Yishuv
> HaAretz (Settle the Land), inseparable and essential
>
> to the mitzvah. There can be no inheritance of the
> Land without a disinheritance of its inhabitants.
> This
> verse was uncomfortable for rabbis who didn't want
> to ruffle feathers over the Ishmaelite trespassers.
>
> Many of us are consumed with anguish this week
> over the Israeli government's violation of the
> common
> lesson from the teaching that it is forbidden to
> withdraw from any part of Eretz Yisrael and leave it
>
> in the hands of Gentiles. Is not the obvious lesson
>
> from these verses of Torah that we must drive the
> Gentiles out of all parts of the Land which are
> under
> our control and never again allow them to live
> there?
> It should be obvious that the tragic situation in
> which we find ourselves is a direct result of our
> failure to follow the Torah and drive out the
> Gentile
> inhabitants after reconquering the Land in 1948 and
> 1967. HaShem has ordered us to drive them out and
> destroy their foreign gods. Not only did we disobey
> HaShem's commandment to do so, we gave the fifth
> column of hostile resident strangers dominion and
> control over our holy Temple Mount which they have
> desecrated and where we are forbidden to even
> whisper a prayer. We cannot pick and choose
> mitzvot; the mitzvah of settling the Land is
> dependent on our driving out the Gentiles.
>
> As always, Reb Binyamin distilled timeless lessons
> from our timeless Torah. HaShem causes all action
> for a reason, and this is the lesson I heard when I
> became still. The government of Israel has given the
>
> world a test of how it will respond to population
> transfers based on religion. As many a Jew over the
>
> past 2 millennia has worried about what the world
> will
> think before doing something to help a Jewish cause,
>
> Arik, with his hardened heart, tried it out on his
> own
> People first, and the verdict is in. Not a single
> county
> or human rights organization raised a peep over the
> forced removal of Jews from their homes based solely
>
> on the fact that they are Jews. Let this be a
> lesson
> and guiding principle when we fulfill the
> commandment that "they shall not dwell in your land"
>
> and we drive the Ishmaelites from our Land to
> reestablish our control over the Land of Greater
> Israel. Please see the rightness of this and know
> that
> the World must never again be allowed to apply this
> indifference only to Jews. It must be held to the
> same standard of silence when the Ishmaelites are
> deported to any on of the 22 Muslim nations already
> in existence just as it did for the Jews. Could Arik
> be
> a mad genius??? Could then be the real end
> game??? Remember the mitzvoth of settling and
> expelling, commandments from our G_d, and never let
> the other Nations forget the indifference displayed
> to
> the forced removal of Jews from their homes.
>
> HaShem save, may the King answer us on the day
> we call!
>
> Only thus, m
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Please Forward this Email
>
>
>
> Stop The Deportation/ Maalat HaGeula -
>
http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?t=l6whfobab.0.8oddsnbab.9equa4aab.1325&p=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.maalathageula.org>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
> * Never Again to indifference.
>
> * Never Again to silence.
>
> * Never Again to Ethnic Cleansing.
>
> * Never Again to the deportation of Jews.
>
>
> "I will plant them upon their land, and they will
> never
> again be uprooted from their land which I have given
>
> them, said HaShem, your G_d." Amos 9:15.
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Stop the Deportation/ Maalat HaGeula
>
> Moshe Finberg
> Chairman
>
>
>
> * Email:
[email protected]>
> * Phone: 303.442.1276
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Ascendant Redemption has been determined by the
> I.R.S. to be an organization described in Section
> 501
> (c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code. Contributions
> to
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1030 General Category / Revava movement Discussion / my immediate reaction to the rape of gush katif... erev shabat nachamu... on: September 06, 2005, 03:29:38 AM
Fri, 19 Aug 2005 18:54:14 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: attn. rav mendel... "ehem... uh... pardon me please... excuse me for a moment world... but i have something to tell you..."
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so all of you little, insignificant, jew-haters had yourselves quite a week huh? well enjoy it while it lasts because when it's gone so will you be gone... forever... buried under the rubble of the heap that is your sorry excuse for what passes for your humanity...
for the first time in its history the american government has openly joined the ranks of the reshayim (wanton sinners) and they did so they think with utter impunity... sure they lied again and again saying this was just sharon's great idea.... yeah like oslo just happened to be israel and the plo "eloping" and israel going much farther than they needed to or that the arabs deserved or etc, etc.... sheer sheker.... pure fiction every last letter of that line of thought... but america got away with hiding its hatred and loathsome posture as the true enemy which it is in league with the saudis (and the iranians) to one day soon now rid the world of israel... but this time is different for the first time the veil slipped off and we saw the dirty lying hypocrits and despoilers for who and what they really are... for this time they openly defied G-d... upon their orders they willingly and wickedly contramanded the will of the G-d of israel and His redemption process... getting filthy erev-rav, satanic and sabbatian, impure and unjewish jews to do their dirty work for them... exactly like the nazis did with jewish kapos back in the days of the shoa... oh how you yearn for those days to come again don't you? all of you bloodthirsty monsters and ravenous, rabid dogs.... every pore of your body oozes and drips with the fresh jewish blood of gush katif and you lust and hunger for more jewish flesh to rip into and yet thirst for more jewish blood to drink... so you reversed G-d's redemption temporarily and you openly defied His exalted will... one day you will reap what you have sown this week... for this week you became unequivocably.... gog oo' maygog... destined for obliteration... (read daniel 7 and ezekeil 36-38... yes you too america.... especially you... and that decadent and psychotic pathetic backstabbing island-nation of (nothing great about it) great britain... you finally revealed yourselves and now we see the raw naked truth of your bestiality and your desecration of the G-d of israel... you may appear invincible like the goliath and nimrod of old before you but you will fall as sure as they both did... as assuredly as the sun will rise tomorrow morning...
we will see what you will get... if you get more of our land before you are destroyed than we are punished even further than just this week's carnage... with the sudden and painful loss of part of our holy covenental land...... from your vantage point you sinned against the L-rd and will one day get what you deserve... but from our perspective... the faithful jews of israel... this black week is punishment for many things we did wrong between us and G-d... and with each other.... but mainly it is because we did not take G-d's torah to heart carefully enough... it says at the end of parshes achrei mot and kedoshim (vayikra: leviticus:18:27-28 and 20:22-24) that the land of israel can not tolerate immorality and when it becomes saturated with the tumah (the impurity) of our actions like the canaanim (cannanites) before us... it promises to spit us out and off of the land of israel for these great sins against our king's commands... and even if the "settlers" were not (and they most definitely were not) the source or cause of this grave onesh (punishment) still among the rest of the jews in the world and the other remaining jews of the state of israel... there was plenty enough of those sins going on for kl'al yisroel as a whole to receive this setback at this time... because we are guarantors for each other... all in it together as apeople... and the sins of even one of us especially in the land of israel contribute to the pain and suffering of all of us as an entire people... "kl'al yisroel aravim zeh l'zeh..."
but there is something even worse than this that we owe this onesh to... something even more threatening, damaging and sinister to our welfare and continued future hold upon our heritage... and i lay this squarely at the feet of and in and by the hands of the unholy so-called "jewish" government of the now late, great state of israel... which because of their immoral and obscenely unjust actions this week have loudly sounded their own death-knell and once rung cannot be unrung... it has been sounded and the thud you will soon hear is their power crashing down to the ground... and they are through now for good... they demonstrated this week that they do not rule in the best interests of our people nor do they care at all for any jew's safety and security anywhere in the world... and therefore their authority is forfeit and their sin is greatest of all and will be visited with G-d's wrath greatest of all... and that sin is the the sin of the allowing of innocent jewish blood to be shed and in the wake and aftermath of it the deliberate and callous refusal and failure to follow the dictates of the halacha (code of jewish, torah law) which calls for the atonement or repurification of the land of israel which as the torah states near the end of sefer bamidbar (the book of numbers) (chapter 35)... that the land of israel cannot tolerate nor stand the spilling of innocent jewish blood and again eventhough it does not say it openly here like it does by zenut (sexual depravity)... it implies the same "spitting out" punishment because of course the spilling of innocent jewish blood is far worse and much more severe than, relatively speaking, the sins of deviant morality (and i mean this only by comparison because obviously they are extremely serious matters that G-d cares deeply and greatly about us guarding and fulfilling... these biblical, torah laws and mitzvot relating to the sexual drive in man)...
and the torah is clear over there... if you allow innocent spilled blood (we refer to murder or accidental manslaughter and not to the spilling of necessary even jewish blood by the beit din or during times of war, even of civil-war)... yes you heard me right... we have had plenty of them and we need one more and they were and are all justified and legal and proper and considered good deeds when they occur as a last resort rather than let the evil jew destroy the torah and land of israel... (i.e. only if there is absolutely no hope for their repentance and as a self-defense mechanism... which today it just became... really years ago... already.... (read further)....
but i digress from the point... and that is that when a jew sins and becomes a rasha (an evil doer) and murders a fellow jew in cold blood in front of two kosher jewish witnesses... he needs killing... he needs it to, with a proper and sincere tshuvah (repentance) to save his soul and we the people of israel upon our land of israel need his death by court sanction and decision... in order to wipe off the stain of innocent blood spilled on the holy soil of our sacred land... and so no mercy is allowed, no commuted sentence to life in prison and absolutely no ransom or bribe to escape the inevitable is to be sanctioned or condoned or else!... no we need the cleansing of his blood for the blood he spilled and only by his blood being spilled in turn do we achieve this repurification.... according to G-d this is so.... this was not made up by any human being... and it is the sole thing that we can do in order to save ourselves from being evicted from our land by G-d... and so even if this innocent-blood slaying was done by accident... even then we still require a cleansing process for that blood and we send the manslayer to exile until the death of the kohen gadol (the high priest) (not for now any explanation as to why him and why he alone bears this burden and awesome responsibility for eretz yisroel)... in any event... this is why we lost part of our land this week... this is the main reason.... there the torah is only speaking of wicked jews killing or semi-righteous ones who do so by sheer accident... and yet the penalty is mandated and as you know already or have just learnt here, the sentence and culpability is very, very severe and intense and it is utterly immutable... but kol shekain... all the more so when the killers and shedders of innocent jewish blood are vile animals and sub-human arab dogs and wild beasts... for then the agony of that crime screams to the highest levels of the heavens for justice and vengeance and barring any the loss of part of eretz yisroel is easily understandable and is i am afraid to say TO BE EXPECTED!!! G-d forbid... andeven more can be lost to us if we do not act quickly enough to restore order and comply with the Divine imperative.... to keep the torah of G-d and make it the sole law of the land...
but we are quiet and we are silent and we are not protesting or demanding the correction of our wrongdoing... and we do not yet see the error of our ways... we have not atoned for the rivers of our brothers' and sisters' blood lo these many years and now G-d has come down this week to hold us accountable for it... and has now requited us and required their lost blood from, by and at our own hands... we are guilty and are to blame for our failing to meet the Divine obligation and to thwart the evil of our deeds and those of our poor and shameful excuse for a governmnet and so He took back a small but painful portion and part of our land like the amputation, G-d forbid, of a limb from the body... lo alenu... enough said... hamaven yaven and we must rid ourselves of this evil regime on the land and we cannot be complacent any longer or we risk losing it all ... chas v'challiah!!!
a word in closing... mr. president sir... your esteemed honor and majesty... sire...king george the second... you and your band of "war on terror partners" sharon and blair... the three of you bear the weight of the sins of this day for the world at large and you know what will befall you all in the end...
but i say this to the lot of you and any and all of your so-called cast of "world-leaders"... you did not heed the warning of G-d to you in rome this year to leave G-d's land alone... you just couldn't resist and so what you can look forward to for you and for your peoples is that this time around it won't be 4 million people attending one man's funeral but you and your countries will suffer many millions of untold grief, horror, agony and wailing... mida k'neged mida (measure for measure... "an eye for an eye" etc.)... but that is perhaps down the line... a few years off yet... (hopefully not)... but i say to you for today... for right now to keep in mind... we see the truth now... your war on terror is a lie and a fraud and a sham!!! "war on terror" my kishkes... if you are fighting a war on terror mr. president then tell me why are hamas terrorists singing and dancing in the streets of gaza this week? they are terrorists... aren't they on your stupid state-department's list? well then remove them and kill them or shut the hell up about your conducting any great war on terrorism... because if you don't kill terrorists you can't and don't have a real war against them or their ism either... would you allow al qaeda to defy you and openly dance somewhere where your missiles could reach? then why do you do so now here in israel... or in the philippenes, or in syria or lebanon (the becca valley) or in iran or chechnya? you are a liar mr. president you do not and never did have a war on terrorism going on because if so why are all the terrorists and i mean virtually all of them... why are they all still standing almost 5 years into such a great, world-wide, "generational" (as you yourself phrased it)... war? liar!
and to you mr. sharon you utter, nazi scumbag... you who pride yourself in your "democratic" israel... you know you were elected to do the opposite of this week's infamous atrocities... to get rid of the arabs on our land not to remove jews from it... and you will go down in history as a tyrant... a bully... A PARO! (a pharaoh)... why didn't you do that which even the miserable torah-hater rabin promised... a referendum on any such major move... why not? because you knew damn well that you would lose hands down in an avalanche and not just in a mere landslide... that's why... you deplorable "spokesman" for evil ... you are haman's excrement incarnate and you will soon be joining him forever... and so i say to you as you hide behind the fig-leaf of democracy that the world tries shamelessly to cloak you in... i say to you as well as to your cronies... you would not hold a referendum so you will now absorb a full scale revolution.... soon please G-d... and know this... if i had a million jews with me i would move to israel just in time for us to become citizens and vote in the very next election... and we would vote you and your ilk out of power for all-time... but alas i am at present without that million... if i had with me between 1-200,000 jews armed to the teeth i would march on the knesset and stage a coup d'etat and if a civil war broke out... so be it! afterall you drew first blood this week beating mere lads... how very proud you must feel in all of your glory that you beat yeshiva students and children into submission... bully for you... you drew first blood really back when oslo started and even before at least when you murdered rav meir kahane... if not before... at the altelena... but you drew first blood and history will note this and record it and when the revolution does finally come we will be above board because our civil-war if need be will be righteous and sanctioned by G-d and led by moshiach... because i alas have no army with me... nor do i possess any weapons of war... so this option will also have to be put on hold as well...
but the one thing that i do possess and we all have is the kol, kol yaakov... the voice of tephila and believe you me when i tell you all that i am using it night and day... everyday round the clock to pray... yes to daven for your death... and for all of your partners as well... death davening for the lot of you... and what i wish for is for Hashem to strike you down Himself... because if some human, any human, does the killing it will not be accepted by any of you as a sign from above and you will not learn to have the dread and fear of the Al-mighty which i wish to bring down upon all of your heads thru my davening... and so just know wherever you go.... wherever you are.... whatever you're doing... just know that i am praying hard for you sir... praying long and hard mr. prime minister for your demise... davening for your mita b'dei shemayim... "your death by heavenly hands"... let no mortal man or woman strike any of you down... please may Hashem do it Himself in all of His glory and might... and do it soon and rid us of the likes of you all forever and may He see fit to have rachamim (mercy) on us and redeem us swiftly and return to us all of our land, people and our full and complete... torah-true way of life... amen selah...
as for you mr. blair... i'll come to you later... shabat is coming and i must cease here... but i have a special message for you as well so don't fret now... i'll catch ya later... ta... nik. shabat shalom... peace love and torah for the faithful jew and goy... war for everyone else until the end of time!
jews... "never again!" you vowed... remember? well...? if you can't see that this is the start of another at least attempted holocaust of our people... G-d forfend... then i feel sorry for you all... i really, really do...
sharon, blair and bush... may G-d evict you all and not any longer... His Holy, chosen nation...
"evict bush, sharon and blair... not jews!!!" peace out... nik.
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1031 General Category / Revava movement Discussion / Re: the ignorance is bliss theory... on: September 06, 2005, 03:19:48 AM
amen y... amen selah!
1032 General Category / Revava movement Discussion / Re: MOSH FEIGLIN!!!!!!! avichai on the ropes... on: September 06, 2005, 03:18:59 AM
go to hell avichai... go directly to hell and don't collect $200... i'm not going anywhere... and i am not the one who invented the concept of revolution here in israel... rav meir said it plainly and openly... either israel holds a referendum over its policies and the future direction of its governmental institutions or axiomatically a revolution will eventually occur due to the "laws of nature and history" for wherever you have a vacuum or a surfeit of liberty and freedom you get either slavery or revolution... usually both... but you don't get equal rights and justice... and to quote "the who"..."you never did and never will" ever get "democracy" from such an explosively rancid equation... as for my being a psychopath and in need of therapy and medication i can only say... that if you already have to resort to such nasty and pathetic rhetoric you have already lost the debate with me and you are exposing yourself to everyone hereon for the spiritual fraud and intellectual lightweight that i felt you were from the very beginning... you are a blatherer... nothing more... a blowhard and a bully... and it is YOU and not i who should take a hike! or would you prefer a flying leap? ta... nik.
1033 General Category / Revava movement Discussion / Re: the ignorance is bliss theory... the geilah monster attack in the back... on: September 05, 2005, 08:19:36 PM
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[email protected] Shalom, Nikmatdam! ( Does this 'dam' mean blood?)
At first you got me angry, sorry, but now I am starting to find your agressive tone more or less amusing.
You surely are a firecracker, man!
Am I very wrong when I suppose you are still rather young?
You remind me very much of the teens I am teaching for some 30 years now, a ministry the Lord has blessed very much, in His grace, and which He wants me to continue, so I'll obey Him and not you, OK?
I suppose you are only a man and obeying a man is idolatry, if I am correct.
How many people did you lead to Him?
How many will be in heaven because of you?
Well... I know one rav Sha'oel who was just like you and then the Lord grabbed him and said: "O.K. - now I am going to use you to build my Kingdom, whether you like it or not."
He had a vision in broad daylight and saw Jesjóe'a, whom He háted deeply and bitterly ( could be yóur twin) standing at the Right Hand of G.d Almighty - in heaven - and He said: "Sha'oel, Sha'oel... why are you persecuting Me?"
You must know that the poor, deluded soul was on his way to Damascus, to imprison and even kill the believers in Yeshoe'a and he thought in his spiritual blindness that he was pleasing G.d.
Well, G.d certainly has a sense of humour and He saw the intensity and the fire in Sha'oel, misdirected at that time, because he tried to please the legalistic (= spiritually dead) rabbi's - never try to please legalistic people, they're all in the dark - but as He is G.d He decided to turn that same intensity in HIS divine direction, and after the vision Sha'oel was blind for 3 days, which was good for him, for now he had time to think and to repent.
Imagine Nikmatdam, always thinking you are right, and then discovering that you are working AGAINST the G.d you thínk you are serving... Pfff...
That must be a HUGE shock, don't you think?
Sha'oel was shattered, utterly shattered.
He, the super-orthodox-Pharisee, saw himself now in the light of G.d: a fanatic, a killer, a cold-blooded bastard, who did not understand óne iota of the truth in the Torah, which he could recite by heart, as if thát mattered.
And then G.d sent an old man to him.
"Go to Sha'oel", the Lord spoke to Ananias in a vision " Arise, and go into the street which is called Straight, and enquire in the house of Jehoedah for one Sha'oel of Tarsis, for behold, the man is praying....
He has seen in a vision a man named Ananias coming in and putting His hand on him , that he might receive his sight."
Well, Ananias was not exactly happen, because he knew only too well what this fanatic had done to the saints, but He had to obey and so he went.
The Lord had said: " He is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear My Name before the gentiles and kings and the children of Israel.
For I will shew him how great things he must suffer for My Name's sake."
And Ananias went into this house and laid his hands upon Sha'oel, and he told him that Jeshóe'a, Who had appeared to him in a vision on the road to Damascus, had sent him, that Sha'oel should receive his sight and the Ruach haKodesh.
At the same moment he could see again and, as G.d had changed his heart, he wanted to be baptized.
So this angry man, murderously-angry man, became the greates apostle of the Lord, for G.d can use people like him.
That's why I am not angry when I read what you wrote.
You have potential, man...
If I was G.d ( which I am not..) I'd like to turn you into something important, that you would become a servant of the light and stop being so unhappy, confused and angry.
I'll be in Jerusalem for Sukkoth from 14-21 oktober, and if you are there in this period too, let's drink a cup of coffee and talk a little bit.
You intrigue me...
If you have any courage, and not only hurtful words, let's make an appointment at Moriah, a coffeeshop close to the Cardo.
Don't be afraid of me, I am only a small woman of 60 with a lot of understanding for young people.
I have the idea that G.d wants something with you - that's why the story about Sha'oel.
Think about it and don't explode again - it becomes boring and it doesn't help your bloodpressure.
Relax, brother, and trust that everything will be just glorious for all G.d's children in the end.
Shalom for now,
Gielah.
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1034 General Category / Revava movement Discussion / Re: MOSH FEIGLIN!!!!!!! come now... on: September 05, 2005, 08:14:47 PM
what trouble am i trying to get you in? i am not an agent provocateur... i hate the shabak and the cia, et al... i really want a revolution like happened in russia... ta... nik.
1035 General Category / Revava movement Discussion / Re: Is hurricane Katrina Hashems revenge./ without a doubt... on: September 05, 2005, 08:11:55 PM
good job here avichai... also to be kept in mind... this news event had a seemless segue from gush katif... it was literraly the very next major world news story after the rape of gush katif... there was no month-long gap for example between events... this is as clear an act of hashgocha pratis as you can possibly get... only jew-haters will deny the connection... ta... nik.
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