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Re: Huckabee is the best candidate on Israel.
« Reply #25 on: December 03, 2007, 04:18:21 PM »
I think Fred Thompson would be a better selection from what I know about him.

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« Reply #26 on: December 03, 2007, 04:24:51 PM »
Huckabee is one sly politician

1. He has the right wing Jewish vote
2. He has the Christian and religious vote
3. He has the Conservative vote
4. He has the environmentalist vote probably
5. He has the Arkansas vote
6. He has the Latino vote for supporting illegal immigration

It's a great strategy to win...We might not like the illegal immigration part, but it is a means to an end to save Israel and the US from funding terrorism.  The other guys will fall short and eventually accept a compromise on illegal immigration and Israel...I think Huckabee is our dude for the time being.



Don't for for that crap that you need to promote illegal alien invasions to get latinos to vote for you. 


I don't promote it...But if he is, it may help him even to win the presidency against the demoncrats because of the latino vote that will overwhelmingly choose him.
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« Reply #27 on: December 03, 2007, 04:28:48 PM »
Huckabee is one sly politician

1. He has the right wing Jewish vote
2. He has the Christian and religious vote
3. He has the Conservative vote
4. He has the environmentalist vote probably
5. He has the Arkansas vote
6. He has the Latino vote for supporting illegal immigration

It's a great strategy to win...We might not like the illegal immigration part, but it is a means to an end to save Israel and the US from funding terrorism.  The other guys will fall short and eventually accept a compromise on illegal immigration and Israel...I think Huckabee is our dude for the time being.



Don't for for that crap that you need to promote illegal alien invasions to get latinos to vote for you. 


I don't promote it...But if he is, it may help him even to win the presidency against the demoncrats because of the latino vote that will overwhelmingly choose him.

Your mentality is obtrusive. So it's ok for illegal aliens to be legal to get more votes for a candidate yet it's bad if Nazis and muslims vote for a candidate to boost votes? Where's the logic in that? Let me guess, you support illegal immigration?

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Re: Huckabee is the best candidate on Israel.
« Reply #28 on: December 03, 2007, 04:52:11 PM »
Huckabee is one sly politician

1. He has the right wing Jewish vote
2. He has the Christian and religious vote
3. He has the Conservative vote
4. He has the environmentalist vote probably
5. He has the Arkansas vote
6. He has the Latino vote for supporting illegal immigration

It's a great strategy to win...We might not like the illegal immigration part, but it is a means to an end to save Israel and the US from funding terrorism.  The other guys will fall short and eventually accept a compromise on illegal immigration and Israel...I think Huckabee is our dude for the time being.



Don't for for that crap that you need to promote illegal alien invasions to get latinos to vote for you. 


I don't promote it...But if he is, it may help him even to win the presidency against the demoncrats because of the latino vote that will overwhelmingly choose him.


Why do you assume most Latino voters advocate breaking laws?

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« Reply #29 on: December 03, 2007, 04:53:22 PM »
Mike Huckabee on Immigration
Click here for 12 full quotes on Immigration OR other candidates on Immigration OR background on Immigration.

    * FactCheck: AR college bill accepted illegals after 3 years. (Nov 2007)
    * Punish people who break the law; but not their children. (Nov 2007)
    * Focus on demand: penalize employers of illegal immigrants. (Sep 2007)
    * Some anti-immigration advocates are based on racism. (Sep 2007)
    * People are angry at government for failing to track illegals. (Sep 2007)
    * Problems with McCain-Kennedy: credibility; secrecy; spending. (Jun 2007)
    * Allow in professionals as legal immigrants, but seal border. (Jun 2007)
    * Change rule barring immigrants from running for president. (May 2007)
    * Path to citizenship if illegals admit guilt & pay fine. (Jan 2007)
    * Share costs of legal immigration between states & federal. (Feb 2001)
    * Federal government should deal with criminal repatriation. (Feb 2001)
    * Import farm workers from Mexico. (Sep 2001)

I agreed with most of what he said but when I ran into this little tidbit about illegal immigration, I about puked.


Could you please post the link to where you got this so I could read more about it?

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« Reply #30 on: December 03, 2007, 04:56:01 PM »
Mike Huckabee on Immigration
Click here for 12 full quotes on Immigration OR other candidates on Immigration OR background on Immigration.

    * FactCheck: AR college bill accepted illegals after 3 years. (Nov 2007)
    * Punish people who break the law; but not their children. (Nov 2007)
    * Focus on demand: penalize employers of illegal immigrants. (Sep 2007)
    * Some anti-immigration advocates are based on racism. (Sep 2007)
    * People are angry at government for failing to track illegals. (Sep 2007)
    * Problems with McCain-Kennedy: credibility; secrecy; spending. (Jun 2007)
    * Allow in professionals as legal immigrants, but seal border. (Jun 2007)
    * Change rule barring immigrants from running for president. (May 2007)
    * Path to citizenship if illegals admit guilt & pay fine. (Jan 2007)
    * Share costs of legal immigration between states & federal. (Feb 2001)
    * Federal government should deal with criminal repatriation. (Feb 2001)
    * Import farm workers from Mexico. (Sep 2001)

I agreed with most of what he said but when I ran into this little tidbit about illegal immigration, I about puked.


Could you please post the link to where you got this so I could read more about it?

http://www.ontheissues.org/Mike_Huckabee.htm

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« Reply #31 on: December 03, 2007, 09:09:22 PM »
Mike Huckabee on Immigration
Click here for 12 full quotes on Immigration OR other candidates on Immigration OR background on Immigration.

    * FactCheck: AR college bill accepted illegals after 3 years. (Nov 2007)
    * Punish people who break the law; but not their children. (Nov 2007)
    * Focus on demand: penalize employers of illegal immigrants. (Sep 2007)
    * Some anti-immigration advocates are based on racism. (Sep 2007)
    * People are angry at government for failing to track illegals. (Sep 2007)
    * Problems with McCain-Kennedy: credibility; secrecy; spending. (Jun 2007)
    * Allow in professionals as legal immigrants, but seal border. (Jun 2007)
    * Change rule barring immigrants from running for president. (May 2007)
    * Path to citizenship if illegals admit guilt & pay fine. (Jan 2007)
    * Share costs of legal immigration between states & federal. (Feb 2001)
    * Federal government should deal with criminal repatriation. (Feb 2001)
    * Import farm workers from Mexico. (Sep 2001)

I agreed with most of what he said but when I ran into this little tidbit about illegal immigration, I about puked.


Could you please post the link to where you got this so I could read more about it?

http://www.ontheissues.org/Mike_Huckabee.htm


Huckabee has a bad record on the issue. 

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Re: Huckabee is the best candidate on Israel.
« Reply #32 on: December 03, 2007, 09:54:37 PM »
His position on Israel is better than Duncan Hunter's?

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« Reply #33 on: December 03, 2007, 10:26:01 PM »
That's good, but Israel can't rely on a US president put a stop to the land for peace craziness.  Israel needs to elect a government that will stop caving in to western pressure. 
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Re: Huckabee is the best candidate on Israel.
« Reply #34 on: December 03, 2007, 10:35:32 PM »
Chaim Ben Pesach:  "...I think he has a chance of winning the presidency..."

I agree with Chaim.

America will go with the conservative candidate who is consistent, strong, and true to his convictions.

 


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« Reply #35 on: December 03, 2007, 11:17:33 PM »
I like Mike Huckabee!
I'd VOTE for him if I could.  :)
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« Reply #36 on: December 04, 2007, 12:21:39 AM »
Now whether Huckabee would stick with this position when he comes under pressure as president is another question. But at least he starts out with the view that Israel should not retreat.


Who would pressure him? He's President of The United States. It's not like The Prime Minister of Israel who gets pressured by the whole World.


Other US politicians. Congress, Senate, Governors, you know....

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« Reply #37 on: December 04, 2007, 01:16:39 AM »
The president has more effect then you might think. He can put bill foward in the congress with out going through comitee. Huckabee is a richous gentile and I trust that he would keep his word he is after all a Baptist Minister
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« Reply #38 on: December 04, 2007, 01:27:49 AM »
Now whether Huckabee would stick with this position when he comes under pressure as president is another question. But at least he starts out with the view that Israel should not retreat.


Who would pressure him? He's President of The United States. It's not like The Prime Minister of Israel who gets pressured by the whole World.




The State Department.  Although the president appoints the Secretary of State and maybe at least a couple others in that department, I think the department is run by the CFR.

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« Reply #39 on: December 04, 2007, 01:29:35 AM »
Did you guys understand what he said about a possible PLO state?

He said it in a rather concealed way, but he said that the PLO state can be created in any Arab state, but not in Israel.

Wow. I think, with such bold slogans it will not be as easy for him to back up later.
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« Reply #40 on: December 04, 2007, 01:30:16 AM »
The president has more effect then you might think. He can put bill foward in the congress with out going through comitee. Huckabee is a richous gentile and I trust that he would keep his word he is after all a Baptist Minister

Although he isn't a minister, some people probably thought the same about Bush Jr. 

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« Reply #41 on: December 04, 2007, 01:36:48 AM »
Did you guys understand what he said about a possible PLO state?

He said it in a rather concealed way, but he said that the PLO state can be created in any Arab state, but not in Israel.

Wow. I think, with such bold slogans it will not be as easy for him to back up later.


"I think, with such bold slogans it will not be as easy for him to back up later."

What do you mean?

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« Reply #42 on: December 04, 2007, 01:42:37 AM »
Did you guys understand what he said about a possible PLO state?

He said it in a rather concealed way, but he said that the PLO state can be created in any Arab state, but not in Israel.

Wow. I think, with such bold slogans it will not be as easy for him to back up later.

That is what JTF supports. We support a state out side of Israel proper
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« Reply #43 on: December 04, 2007, 01:42:42 AM »
Did you guys understand what he said about a possible PLO state?

He said it in a rather concealed way, but he said that the PLO state can be created in any Arab state, but not in Israel.

Wow. I think, with such bold slogans it will not be as easy for him to back up later.


"I think, with such bold slogans it will not be as easy for him to back up later."

What do you mean?

I mean that with slogans like - "No PLO state in Israel", "No dependence on filthy Saudis" etc. - he automatically gains enemies among Muslims and later, even if he wanted, it would be uneasy for him to change his reputation.
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« Reply #44 on: December 04, 2007, 01:44:06 AM »
The president has more effect then you might think. He can put bill foward in the congress with out going through comitee. Huckabee is a richous gentile and I trust that he would keep his word he is after all a Baptist Minister

Although he isn't a minister, some people probably thought the same about Bush Jr. 

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« Reply #45 on: December 04, 2007, 01:45:20 AM »
Did you guys understand what he said about a possible PLO state?

He said it in a rather concealed way, but he said that the PLO state can be created in any Arab state, but not in Israel.

Wow. I think, with such bold slogans it will not be as easy for him to back up later.

That is what JTF supports. We support a state out side of Israel proper

Per my understanding, JTF supports no PLO state on the territory of Israel. Period.
But we don't specifically go and support such state being established anywhere else. We just throw options to our "beloved" enemies.
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« Reply #46 on: December 04, 2007, 01:47:43 AM »
Did you guys understand what he said about a possible PLO state?

He said it in a rather concealed way, but he said that the PLO state can be created in any Arab state, but not in Israel.

Wow. I think, with such bold slogans it will not be as easy for him to back up later.

Rabbi Kahane vowed that if he was PM he would help the Arabs build their P@lestine in Jordan or in another country. This is what Huckabee seemed to suggest as well.

Although he isn't a minister, some people probably thought the same about Bush Jr. 

I had faith in Bush Jr. Especially after 9/11 when he introduced the Bush doctrine. I was positive that he will keep Israel as our strongest ally and he would encourage Israel to take an aggressive  stand on the terrorist.

But no, not only is he telling Israel to help the terrorist, he is too. Iran, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, where is the Bush doctrine?

I was wrong, and Chaim understood these phonies are early on.


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Re: Huckabee is the best candidate on Israel.
« Reply #47 on: December 04, 2007, 11:51:31 AM »
His position on Israel is better than Duncan Hunter's?

I believe Chaim said the best "major" candidate on Israel. I'm not sure Duncan Hunter has the money (or the looks...yes looks matter) to ever be a major candidate this election. He would make a good vice-president, though.
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« Reply #48 on: December 04, 2007, 11:56:24 AM »
No Duncan Hunter is very pro Israel my uncle or great uncle is friends with Duncan Hunter for 40 yrs
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Re: Huckabee is the best candidate on Israel.
« Reply #49 on: December 04, 2007, 12:02:36 PM »
Duncan Hunter is also against Israeli territorial retreats. But unfortunately he has no chance of winning.

Mike Huckabee does have a chance of winning. Which is why, as lubab points out, I refer to Huckabee as the only "major" candidate who opposes Israeli suicidal retreats.