This is a Christian?

[Lubab]

Hear Barack Hussein malign the Bible about two minutes into the video. Look at the disdain he has in his voice for it.
Somebody get this guy his Koran.

[shimon]

so what christians are just as bad to jews as muslims. who cares none of the candidates are crazy about israel. america is worse to the jews than hamas, hezbollah the plo etc. you can count the jews who have been murdered by terroists but you cannot count the jews lost to assimilation especially in america

[shimon]

just what i thought no responses

[briann]

so what christians are just as bad to jews as muslims. who cares none of the candidates are crazy about israel. america is worse to the jews than hamas, hezbollah the plo etc. you can count the jews who have been murdered by terroists but you cannot count the jews lost to assimilation especially in america

America is worse to Jews than Hamas?? is this some sorta joke?? is this what Baraq Hussein said??? I'm confused by such a stupid comment.

[shimon]

so what christians are just as bad to jews as muslims. who cares none of the candidates are crazy about israel. america is worse to the jews than hamas, hezbollah the plo etc. you can count the jews who have been murdered by terroists but you cannot count the jews lost to assimilation especially in america

America is worse to Jews than Hamas?? is this some sorta joke?? is this what Baraq Hussein said??? I'm confused by such a stupid comment.

its not stupid.

[Zionist Revolutionary]

Listen here Shimon, Jews have better things to do than notice you when you do something.  If you crave attention, then go look in a mirror.  You think a Christian America is the reason Jews are intermarrying?  It's the Jews own self hatred that does that.  In Anti-Christian Europe, Jews are intermarrying.  If you have no reason to be on the board other than to try and divide (and conquer?) right-wing Jews and righteous Gentiles, then you should go to the Yekutiels forum.

Christians are just as bad to Jews as Muslims?!  I write this off as insanity.

[shimon]

america in itself is a good gentile country. but it is frightening to see the amount of jews were lost because of assimilation. the rate of assimilation in russia ( pre communist) or arab nations was way lower than in america. but the best place to live by far is israel

[Rubystars]

Shimon I can understand how you feel since many of the major anti-Semites are nominally Christian, but any Christian who really reads their Bible will understand that God had built a relationship with the Jewish people and that certain areas were promised to the Jewish people by God Himself.

[shimon]

Listen here Shimon, Jews have better things to do than notice you when you do something.  If you crave attention, then go look in a mirror.  You think a Christian America is the reason Jews are intermarrying?  It's the Jews own self hatred that does that.  In Anti-Christian Europe, Jews are intermarrying.  If you have no reason to be on the board other than to try and divide (and conquer?) right-wing Jews and righteous Gentiles, then you should go to the Yekutiels forum.

Christians are just as bad to Jews as Muslims?!  I write this off as insanity.

i do not. the thing we jews should be worrying about is israel and world wide jewery not western hellenistic coulture

[shimon]

Shimon I can understand how you feel since many of the major anti-Semites are nominally Christian, but any Christian who really reads their Bible will understand that G-d had built a relationship with the Jewish people and that certain areas were promised to the Jewish people by G-d Himself.

thats true but if you look in the gemarah lets just say it doesnt talk so positevly about christians. and some christians beleive that jews are no longer the chosen people therefore have no claim to israel

[briann]

Shimon, Im more offended about your generalization of America that I am about your generalization about Christians.   Don't EVER say that we are in the same league as the Nazis of Hamas.  My grandfather would always tell me that he beleived that Jews were unwelcome in every country until he came here.

And yet, because you see Jews intermarrying, you feel its necessary to put us in the same category as the Islamic Reich!! this is just sickening!!!

[Rubystars]

Shimon I can understand how you feel since many of the major anti-Semites are nominally Christian, but any Christian who really reads their Bible will understand that G-d had built a relationship with the Jewish people and that certain areas were promised to the Jewish people by G-d Himself.

thats true but if you look in the gemarah lets just say it doesnt talk so positevly about christians.

There are major, irreconcilable theological differences. I'm not here to spread my religion however, nor am I here to adopt anyone else's religion. I think that Jews and Christians have common interests and common enemies. While we may have our own disagreements, for most people of both faiths, we do not wish to harm one another, and could live side by side in peace with one another despite such disagreements.

Liberalism and secularism threatens both groups. Islam threatens both groups. The same evil groups of people who hate Christians often hate sincere, right wing, religious Jews as well. We'll be better off if we work together instead of against each other.

and some christians beleive that jews are no longer the chosen people therefore have no claim to israel

That's a doctrine known as replacement theology, which many modern preachers teach vehemently against. I was never taught to believe in that doctrine.

[Rubystars]

Hear Barack Hussein malign the Bible about two minutes into the video. Look at the disdain he has in his voice for it.
Somebody get this guy his Koran.

Notice how the evil Nazi Muslim Obama mentioned shellfish (which Muslims can eat) but not pork (which they can't). He certainly does show a contempt for Christianity in this video and it's quite obvious that he can't really be a follower of it himself. Especially in the way he equates it to all other religions including ISLAM! Ewww...

Nice find Lubab. This is pretty powerful evidence that Obama is a Muslim.

[Raulmarrio2000]

I have no problem with Christians, no matter even those who don't believe in Israel as the chosen people anymore. After all, non-biblical religions have never believed in the idea of a chosen people at all. As far as they respect the historical Jewish right on EY, it's ok. The problem is when some Cristians claim that they have rights on EY, or better said, that Jews must be scattered and suffering for not being chosen anymore. That's the problem. And there are some Christians who preach that, not only about Jews but everynody. Here, we have some, who claim that non-Christians have no right at all. Some, even said that the victims of the tsunami deserved it for not believing in Jesus (or even not knowing about the Gospel)

[Lubab]

Do you like how he says "Al Sharpton's Christianity"?

As if he has his own branch  .

[Rubystars]

Do you like how he says "Al Sharpton's Christianity"?

As if he has his own branch  .

Well that may not be all that far from the truth. I don't think that Al Sharpton could possibly be following the same religious principles that conservative, Bible-believing Christians do.

[Ari]

Shimon I can understand how you feel since many of the major anti-Semites are nominally Christian, but any Christian who really reads their Bible will understand that G-d had built a relationship with the Jewish people and that certain areas were promised to the Jewish people by G-d Himself.

thats true but if you look in the gemarah lets just say it doesnt talk so positevly about christians.

There are major, irreconcilable theological differences. I'm not here to spread my religion however, nor am I here to adopt anyone else's religion. I think that Jews and Christians have common interests and common enemies. While we may have our own disagreements, for most people of both faiths, we do not wish to harm one another, and could live side by side in peace with one another despite such disagreements.

Liberalism and secularism threatens both groups. Islam threatens both groups. The same evil groups of people who hate Christians often hate sincere, right wing, religious Jews as well. We'll be better off if we work together instead of against each other.

and some christians beleive that jews are no longer the chosen people therefore have no claim to israel

That's a doctrine known as replacement theology, which many modern preachers teach vehemently against. I was never taught to believe in that doctrine.

Well said Rubystars.

[firster555]

Shimon, if Jews lose their faith or just water it down, this is not the fault of American assimilation. American assimilation does not call call for anyone to give up their faith, no matter what faith that might be, in fact keeping your faith is encouraged(sometimes very mistakenly such as with islam). If Jews, Christians, or anyone loses or tones down their religious beliefs, American assimiliation did not make them do that, their own free will did.
As for comparing America to hamas,hezbollah, this is just beyond disgusting. Where did a non oil nation in the middle east, Israel, get the funding to build such a strong military?
See, the great thing about American assimilation is that you can be an American, and have your religion too, or no religion, your choice, not America's. You sound like you are trying to say that Americanism and religion cannot co-exist, sounds kind of Shariaistic.
Shimon, just out of curiosity, do you reside in America or in Israel? If in America, my question would be, why?

[shimon]

Shimon, if Jews lose their faith or just water it down, this is not the fault of American assimilation. American assimilation does not call call for anyone to give up their faith, no matter what faith that might be, in fact keeping your faith is encouraged(sometimes very mistakenly such as with islam). If Jews, Christians, or anyone loses or tones down their religious beliefs, American assimiliation did not make them do that, their own free will did.
As for comparing America to hamas,hezbollah, this is just beyond disgusting. Where did a non oil nation in the middle east, Israel, get the funding to build such a strong military?
See, the great thing about American assimilation is that you can be an American, and have your religion too, or no religion, your choice, not America's. You sound like you are trying to say that Americanism and religion cannot co-exist, sounds kind of Shariaistic.
Shimon, just out of curiosity, do you reside in America or in Israel? If in America, my question would be, why?

  in a religious country religion means alot more.

[firster555]

Shimon, if Jews lose their faith or just water it down, this is not the fault of American assimilation. American assimilation does not call call for anyone to give up their faith, no matter what faith that might be, in fact keeping your faith is encouraged(sometimes very mistakenly such as with islam). If Jews, Christians, or anyone loses or tones down their religious beliefs, American assimiliation did not make them do that, their own free will did.
As for comparing America to hamas,hezbollah, this is just beyond disgusting. Where did a non oil nation in the middle east, Israel, get the funding to build such a strong military?
See, the great thing about American assimilation is that you can be an American, and have your religion too, or no religion, your choice, not America's. You sound like you are trying to say that Americanism and religion cannot co-exist, sounds kind of Shariaistic.
Shimon, just out of curiosity, do you reside in America or in Israel? If in America, my question would be, why?

  in a religious country religion means alot more.

You mean like Saudi Arabia?

[Dr. Dan]

Obama doesn't understand religion.  He implies, in this video, a one world mentality of a new religion.

His disdain for certain passages indicates that he doesnt' understand the ways of history and thinks that if he does it his way, it will make things better.  Sorry, but we live in evil times.

You can't change scripture. However, you can always alter the interpretation of what is written without changing anything.

He does look at Gd with disdain.

"Can we all just get along?"

My answer: believe me, I would love to just get along..but if I'm going to persecuted for practicing my Judaism and be laughed at, screw you!  I want there to be Jewish state and even though I hate Islam, I want there to be one Islamic state...and several christian states, and a buddhist state and a hindu state and a non believer state...I want there to be a nation for each culture with defined borders..and i want there to be an end to jealousy and xenophobism and jingoism...

and when one nation wants to pursue the other's blood, then the other nation has a right to defend herself by any means without judgement and without intervention!

[shimon]

why do you think the first lubavitch rabbi suported white russia in their war against napolean. by no means was russia a friend of the jews but the jews in russia were always devout inlike the other jews who lived in France and Germany

[Lubab]

why do you think the first lubavitch rabbi suported white russia in their war against napolean. by no means was russia a friend of the jews but the jews in russia were always devout inlike the other jews who lived in France and Germany

You answered your own question. The physical threat of the Russians wasn't as much of a danger to the Jewish people as was the threat of assimilation under Napolean in his view.

[MassuhDGoodName]

Re:  "...why do you think the first lubavitch rabbi suported white russia in their war against napolean. by no means was russia a friend of the jews but the jews in russia were always devout inlike the other jews who lived in France and Germany..."

Yes, and to clarify even further, Napoleon offered full citizenship to the Jews in exchange for their proclaiming themselves to be merely Frenchmen who follow a Jewish religion; meaning that Jews must forsake forever their identity as a Nation in Exile.

The Rebbe chose life under the Russian Tsar, where Jews were considered both by themselves as well as their non-Jewish countrymen to be an alien nation, distinct and unable to be assimilated; thus preserving Jews as Jews, rather than European secularists with a different minority religious practice.

Many Jews today are puzzled by the Rebbe's decision, due to the inestimable hardships of Jewish life in Russia.

At first call, choosing a more civilized and comfortable life in France and Germany would seem the most preferred path, but the Rebbe knew that the comforts of cosmopolitan Paris or Berlin would steal Jewish souls with far more certainty, than would life where a Jew could never for one second forget his being Jewish.

[shimon]

why do you think the first lubavitch rabbi suported white russia in their war against napolean. by no means was russia a friend of the jews but the jews in russia were always devout inlike the other jews who lived in France and Germany

You answered your own question. The physical threat of the Russians wasn't as much of a danger to the Jewish people as was the threat of assimilation under Napolean in his view.
exactly my point.

thank  you rabbi for proving my point.