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Roadwarrior:
Number one, its a scam if someone else writes
it for you and completely unethical and immoral
and number two you wont learn anything if
you dont research the topic and write your
findings in your own words.

If you do the research yourself there will
be a greater sense of understanding and learning
about the topic...not to mention experience in researching
evaluating and drawing your own conclusions.

muman613:

--- Quote from: Roadwarrior on October 16, 2008, 08:45:10 PM ---Number one, its a scam if someone else writes
it for you and completely unethical and immoral
and number two you wont learn anything if
you dont research the topic and write your
findings in your own words.

If you do the research yourself there will
be a greater sense of understanding and learning
about the topic...not to mention experience in researching
evaluating and drawing your own conclusions.

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I agree 100%... I dont presume that anyone should write this paper for him. But we should at least be able to point him in the proper direction for researching it.

I use the Kosher Search engine http://4torah.com . It is very good!

muman613

muman613:
Shalom,

Here is a portrayal of the dynamic between the family members which reflects my original statements.

From Chabad site:

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http://www.chabad.org/parshah/article_cdo/aid/458116/jewish/The-True-Heir.htm
When Jacob outsmarted Esau and received his father Isaac's blessings, Esau was outraged. "He cried out a great and bitter cry, and he said to his father, 'Bless me too, O my father!'… And Esau raised his voice and wept." Esau had been anticipating these blessings for many years, and for decades long Esau had feigned religious observance because he wanted his father to believe that he was worthy of these blessings. He was utterly devastated when he realized that he, the on-the-ball, worldly hunter, had been outwitted by his religious "goody-goody" brother.

It is remarkable that this person who was a murderer, rapist and glutton was so eager to receive the blessing of a tzaddik (righteous person). Esau wasn't out for a large inheritance; after all, Isaac was an elderly, blind person who had nothing to offer other than his blessings. Rather, as someone who was raised in the households of Abraham and Isaac, he was well aware of the value of a tzaddik's blessing. Esau was a Jew who was born to a Jewish mother, and therefore possessed a Jewish soul which imbued him with a strong belief in G-d and the super-natural. His "Jewish heart," however, did not manifest itself in his immoral lifestyle, which was contrary to all he had learned in his father's home. He knew what was right, but was unwilling to make the necessary sacrifices to live an ethical, spiritual life.

The Divine plan determined that Jacob, not Esau, receive the blessings. For Jacob was a Jew not only at heart, but in practice as well. With faith alone we cannot accomplish the mission of revealing G-dliness in this world, and transforming ourselves and the world around us into a Divine abode. Only through actually practicing Torah and mitzvot can this goal be achieved.

In microcosm, many can relate to Esau's dilemma. Most people know what is proper, but oftentimes lack the strength and willpower to implement that which is proper into their daily lives. We must always remember that only the practice of Torah and mitzvot makes us a worthy receptacle for Divine blessings. Faith isn't a product of our labor; it naturally exists within every Jew due to our G-dly soul which was instilled within us. Blessings must be earned. Only the hard work of applying the faith in everyday life makes a person worthy of all of G-d's blessings.


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Roadwarrior:

Excellent starting point ideas here

AsheDina:

--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on October 16, 2008, 08:12:58 PM ---"PS: I think you meant that Essau was a Hunter, not a murderer. What is your source for calling Essau a murderer? In fact Essau was a very religious and observant man, not like you portray him."

 Our sages say that Esav was a murderer. ( Actually both him and Ishmael- by Ishmeal see the comments of "Mesahek"- or playing- 3 interpretations- raping women, killing, and serving idolatry)
 Esav- when he came from the field, the day Avraham Avinu Alav Hashalom died, our sages say he killed a person. At first he was "good" although already at the womb their was a battle between Esav and Yakov. Many say when Avraham died- Esav said, something to the point of, how could G-d kill a man as rightious as Avraham (his grandfather), so thus their is no justice and Judge on earth (G-d forbid), so then he became bad (at around 13 I believe, and on that day he murdered a person).

  Yonathan- I also remembered- this http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Daniel_Cohen/index.html
 "Dating and Marriage part 1). - (english) This Rav talks about the different personality traits (including Ishmael, Esav, etc.) Comparisons, etc. I believe this would be very helpful for your paper.


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  I am reading how Esav became mean and hateful. Things on the earth Esav wanted more.  I dont see anywhere that Esav's descendants were Romans here. Where do I find that the descendants of Esav were Roman, and where do the Arabs come in here-were all of the arabs Philistines?

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