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Re: Putin vows ‘Russia will never forget Holocaust’
« Reply #125 on: November 13, 2012, 08:45:57 PM »
I've heard that Hitler originally wanted to send the Jews to Madagascar, the land of Israel, and any other places that would take them.

That is true.    Hatred doesn't necessarily mean, "murder all instantly."   He explored other options first but the goal was for them to be dead, eventually at least.

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Re: Putin vows ‘Russia will never forget Holocaust’
« Reply #126 on: November 13, 2012, 08:47:01 PM »
As I said, Iranians should apologize for what was said about Holocaust. But on the other hand, not everyone thinks like I do and people have right to believe in any theory they want, including Iranians.

Oh, so he should apologize for what he said about the holocaust, but not about arming Syria, Hamas, and Hezbollah to murder Israeli citizens?!

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Re: Putin vows ‘Russia will never forget Holocaust’
« Reply #127 on: November 13, 2012, 08:47:59 PM »
You are off your rocker.    He is saying death to Israel.   That is equivalent to someone saying Death to Serbia.

He doesn't want to kill the dhimmis living in his country because they are powerless and completely outnumbered (and living in fear, btw).

BUT DID YOU KNOW THAT HEZBOLLAH, WHICH IS AN AGENT OF THE IRANIAN GOVT, HAS STATED PUBLICLY IT IS THEIR GOAL TO CHASE DOWN JEWS ALL OVER THE WORLD AND MURDER THEM IN EVERY COUNTRY THROUGHOUT THE GLOBE?    DID YOU KNOW THAT?    They readily admit this publicly.   It is not just about Israel.   But Israel is the center of Jewish national life and therefore it is the lifeblood and power of the Jewish people, so that is target number 1.     You fool.     You know how many Jews I know who fled the Ayatollah!?
As I stated I support Jews in this conflict but I can't accept some things said about Iranians that is it.
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Re: Putin vows ‘Russia will never forget Holocaust’
« Reply #128 on: November 13, 2012, 08:48:28 PM »
I do not believe such thing. He had open plan to destroy innocent people and there is no question about.

You are ignorant of history!   He tried to expel Jews first.   Other countries refused to take them.   That contributed to the development of the "Final Solution."

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Re: Putin vows ‘Russia will never forget Holocaust’
« Reply #129 on: November 13, 2012, 08:49:29 PM »
As I stated I support Jews in this conflict but I can't accept some things said about Iranians that is it.

You are a lying fraud.

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Re: Putin vows ‘Russia will never forget Holocaust’
« Reply #130 on: November 13, 2012, 08:51:54 PM »
You are ignorant of history!   He tried to expel Jews first.   Other countries refused to take them.   That contributed to the development of the "Final Solution."
I believe he wanted to kill Jews in first place and offering for peaceful exit are not know to me. People live and learn, if it is the truth I was unaware of that.
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Re: Putin vows ‘Russia will never forget Holocaust’
« Reply #131 on: November 13, 2012, 08:52:30 PM »
Oh, so he should apologize for what he said about the holocaust, but not about arming Syria, Hamas, and Hezbollah to murder Israeli citizens?!
You have a good point here.
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Re: Putin vows ‘Russia will never forget Holocaust’
« Reply #132 on: November 13, 2012, 08:52:39 PM »
Serbian Army, I noticed that most of my points you refuse to address directly.   That is probably because you are in denial and convinced of what you believe regardless of the facts.    That is pathetic.

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« Reply #133 on: November 13, 2012, 09:46:43 PM »
I guess craziness goes both ways:

Only ‘the nuclear option’ can work against Iran, former IDF chief saysBut, Dan Halutz tells the Sunday Times, ‘I hope Bibi is not mad enough to think about it’

Israeli leaders have concluded that conventional air strikes would be insufficient in curbing Iran’s nuclear program, leaving only a deployment of either tactical nuclear weapons or ground forces, according to a report in the British Sunday Times.

Western “defense experts” quoted by the report pointed at the Iranian Fordo facility, which is located deep underground near the city of Qom, as a site that was immune to conventional air strikes.

“The only way to finish off Iran’s nuclear program is by using the nuclear option,” said IDF Chief of General Staff Dan Halutz, the only named source quoted by the report. “But I hope Bibi [Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu] is not mad enough to think about it.”

According to foreign reports, Israel is in possession of a significant arsenal of nuclear weapons, including tactical weapons such as neutron bombs, along with long-range Jericho missiles to deliver them.

Israel also possesses GBU-28 bunker-buster bombs that could be deployed by the Israel Air Force’s F-16 bombers. However, according to assessments, these bombs would not prove sufficient to penetrate the Fordo facility.
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Re: Putin vows ‘Russia will never forget Holocaust’
« Reply #134 on: November 13, 2012, 09:48:24 PM »
I don't bother for the likes of Boris Yeltsin. But this eternally drunken man damaged the Serbs the most and in the worst possible manner. I am surprised to see that not a single Serb has either even mentioned him so far or cursed him. Not only he colluded with Clinton to invade the Belgrade in most cruel manner but he alone had the golden opportunity to finish the communism from the Russia and the whole world and he failed miserably. His collusion with the socialist Clinton could not allow him to go strongly against the Russian communists and so we now see the resurgent communism leading not only in Russia and China but also in whole Europe and America for the next three and half years.

So I think that the Serb friends before condemning anyone else, shall condemn the drunken Boris Yeltsin first and then proceed on the subject ever.
Great post. I agree with you completely. Don't worry we are very aware of those facts.
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Re: Putin vows ‘Russia will never forget Holocaust’
« Reply #135 on: November 13, 2012, 09:54:14 PM »
Serbian Army, I noticed that most of my points you refuse to address directly.   That is probably because you are in denial and convinced of what you believe regardless of the facts.    That is pathetic.
Sorry but I can't spend all my time addressing every single point you made. I spent entire Monday on history of Pogroms and polished my knowledge about Khazars. They were not small kingdom but major power.
Please do not insult me because I will insult you back....I will not keep silent if face of your racism towards Russians, Poles and Iranians as well.
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Re: Putin vows ‘Russia will never forget Holocaust’
« Reply #136 on: November 13, 2012, 09:56:46 PM »
Sorry but I can't spend all my time addressing every single point you made. I spent entire Monday on history of Pogroms and polished my knowledge about Khazars. They were not small kingdom but major power.
Please do not insult me because I will insult you back....I will not keep silent if face of your racism towards Russians, Poles and Iranians as well.
Here only Indian people were not called subhuman For some time it was blacks, Chinese, Arabs, now Slavic nations, African nations and everyone else.


Another case of the pot calling the kettle black... All those nations he supports have been terrible to the Jewish people, including Russia, Poland, and Iran... Some friend... Anyone who thinks that Russia was the friend of the Jews has a screw loose.. Iran has made numerous homicidal threats against Israel and the Jewish people, calling us a cancer and promising to wipe us off the face of the planet.... And he thinks Iran is a cool nation... Serbian army, what are you doing at JTF? You support all our enemies...

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Re: Putin vows ‘Russia will never forget Holocaust’
« Reply #137 on: November 13, 2012, 09:57:31 PM »
Wow Serbian army, you play us like we are idiots.  Your logic and perception of history is so backward that the only answer plausible to your claims have to be written upside down and right to left to make sense to you.

I see you as my enemy and an enemy of the Jewish people and Serbian people.
If someone says something bad about you, say something nice about them. That way, both of you would be lying.

In your heart you know WE are right and in your guts you know THEY are nuts!

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Re: Putin vows ‘Russia will never forget Holocaust’
« Reply #138 on: November 13, 2012, 10:22:01 PM »
Not one jtf-er reacted on racist posts here  but instead blamed me for finding such crazy posts insulting. Ukrainians, Poles, Russians, Iraninas were called the subhumans and the worst imaginable words were used. As one sane person I must reacted to such things.
Hate will lead some of people here to become little hitlers. Nations have right to exist even if they do not like the Jews. Not everyone likes me and it is their choice. Feeling I have here is when you tell your friend something openly about what bothers you or to protect him to harm to himself, than he things you hate him and are envious of him. God has created all people equal. Arabs have purpose in this world. Iranians too have purposes and Jews have purpose. No one is superior. Only some nations stole wealth from other nations like English did from Indians.
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Re: Putin vows ‘Russia will never forget Holocaust’
« Reply #139 on: November 13, 2012, 10:31:20 PM »
Not one jtf-er reacted on racist posts here  but instead blamed me for finding such crazy posts insulting. Ukrainians, Poles, Russians, Iraninas were called the subhumans and the worst imaginable words were used. As one sane person I must reacted to such things.
Hate will lead some of people here to become little hitlers. Nations have right to exist even if they do not like the Jews. Not everyone likes me and it is their choice. Feeling I have here is when you tell your friend something openly about what bothers you or to protect him to harm to himself, than he things you hate him and are envious of him. God has created all people equal. Arabs have purpose in this world. Iranians too have purposes and Jews have purpose. No one is superior. Only some nations stole wealth from other nations like English did from Indians.

G-d created all people with the potential to be equal, he did not create us all equal. This is most evident by the fact that some are smarter, some are less intelligent, some are very talented with using their hands while others are clumsy and more mathematically inclined. Some people are women and are capable of having children, some people are men who have more physical strength than women. We are not all Equal in the sense you suggest.

All mankind has a reason to exist, I am pretty sure nobody here is arguing against that. But what people have chosen to do with their individual talents and feelings makes them either good or evil. And there are good nations and there are evil nations. Not all nations are equal, as Hitlers Germany and Achmadinajads Iran clearly demonstrate. Not all nations deserve to be treated equally either, especially those who scapegoated the Jewish people and other minorities which were unable to protect themselves. The Jewish people, especially to JTFers {Hence the J for Jewish task Force}, have been especially mistreated by several nations in Europe and Russia for both religious and non-religious excuses.

The Jewish people are a good people who were dispossessed of our land about 2000 years ago. During our exile we have integrated with just about every nation on the planet. No other people have put up with as much hatred as our people, it has not stopped for almost 3000 years, and we don't expect it to stop until the coming of the Moshiach.

But there is no excuse to cut the oppressors slack as you do. I do not know you personally Serbian Army but my opinion of you has declined recently as a result of your support of our sworn enemies, those who have sworn to eliminate the Jewish people from this world. I do hope you come around eventually, before it is too late..
 
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Re: Putin vows ‘Russia will never forget Holocaust’
« Reply #140 on: November 14, 2012, 10:58:06 AM »
Sorry but I can't spend all my time addressing every single point you made. I spent entire Monday on history of Pogroms and polished my knowledge about Khazars. They were not small kingdom but major power.
Please do not insult me because I will insult you back....I will not keep silent if face of your racism towards Russians, Poles and Iranians as well.
Here only Indian people were not called subhuman For some time it was blacks, Chinese, Arabs, now Slavic nations, African nations and everyone else.

This is called a deflection.  You called me racist because you cannot address my points.  I said nothing racist here. And you know that.   You are a dishonest Jew hater

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Re: Putin vows ‘Russia will never forget Holocaust’
« Reply #141 on: November 14, 2012, 06:29:53 PM »
I just realized who Ephraim is!!!!!  Ephraim is a guy who used to come on this forum and say irreverent things under another name that is escaping me!!!  I think it was five letters long, his previous name.  Did it begin with an M?  Then he got pissed off because he felt ganged up on one time too many and left.  Mango? Monzo?  Can't remember

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Re: Putin vows ‘Russia will never forget Holocaust’
« Reply #142 on: November 14, 2012, 06:36:42 PM »
I don't have a time to respond to everyone now but I will try later. Everything on Khazar rule can be found of Wikipedia so please go and read it. But why bother with reading? It is much easier to crucify me here for saying that they ruled of Slavs with iron fist.
Pogroms in Spain, England, Germany and other countries were 10 times more terrible than Russian ones. In fact, in one pogrom 17 attackers were killed by the army and only two Jews died with many losing their property only. I see pattern here and that is one of racism towards Russians and whole Slavic nations including Poles who suffered terrible.

Serbian Army,

I am giving you the benefit of the doubt here because I think you are not understanding this from the Jewish perspective which is your right to disagree.  But this is our perspective, or at least my perspective, the Russians, average Russians, with some exceptions, supported, benefited from, and took part in a more than one thousand year history of Jew hunting, killing, raping, and savage brutality against the Jewish people.  The Poles were, for many centuries, as bad and worse than the Russians.  In the modern era, Islamic anti-semitism is the major enemy of the Jewish people, but in times, not so long in the distant past, Christian anti-Semitism was the culprit and it was driven full steam ahead by Russian Clergy who preached Jew hatred and killing to the Cossacks, villagers, and nobility alike.  Russians entered WWII to save themselves, not for the Jews, but to stave off Hitler.

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Re: Putin vows ‘Russia will never forget Holocaust’
« Reply #143 on: November 14, 2012, 06:40:15 PM »
I just realized who Ephraim is!!!!!  Ephraim is a guy who used to come on this forum and say irreverent things under another name that is escaping me!!!  I think it was five letters long, his previous name.  Did it begin with an M?  Then he got pissed off because he felt ganged up on one time too many and left.  Mango? Monzo?  Can't remember
WHAT? ME? Have someone check my IP, have Muman Google my phone number, and have them compare!
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Re: Putin vows ‘Russia will never forget Holocaust’
« Reply #144 on: November 14, 2012, 06:43:04 PM »
WHAT? ME? Have someone check my IP, have Muman Google my phone number, and have them compare!

It just occurred to me who you are and I'm so glad you are back!!

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Re: Putin vows ‘Russia will never forget Holocaust’
« Reply #145 on: November 14, 2012, 07:29:58 PM »
I just realized who Ephraim is!!!!!  Ephraim is a guy who used to come on this forum and say irreverent things under another name that is escaping me!!!  I think it was five letters long, his previous name.  Did it begin with an M?  Then he got pissed off because he felt ganged up on one time too many and left.  Mango? Monzo?  Can't remember

JTFE,

I don't think so. I have spoken with Ephraim and been in contact with him virtually since he joined. I don't think he is an old troll from JTF...
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Re: Putin vows ‘Russia will never forget Holocaust’
« Reply #146 on: November 14, 2012, 07:33:59 PM »
It just occurred to me who you are and I'm so glad you are back!!
Sorry to ruined your day, but I have never been on this forum before or any other forum. I signed up for the JTF before I really even knew what it was! I didn't even know who Rabbi Kahane was.

P.s. I know I do say some irrelevant things sometimes, but I just say what pops into my head sometimes. Btw are you... we was loving each other? PM me your answer if you want.
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« Reply #147 on: November 14, 2012, 09:15:35 PM »
Ezekiel 33:6 But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the horn, and the people be not warned, and the sword do come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity, but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand.

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Re: Putin vows ‘Russia will never forget Holocaust’
« Reply #148 on: November 14, 2012, 10:47:50 PM »
Sorry but I can't spend all my time addressing every single point you made. I spent entire Monday on history of Pogroms and polished my knowledge about Khazars. They were not small kingdom but major power.
Please do not insult me because I will insult you back....I will not keep silent if face of your racism towards Russians, Poles and Iranians as well.
Here only Indian people were not called subhuman For some time it was blacks, Chinese, Arabs, now Slavic nations, African nations and everyone else.

You did not merely defend Iranians or Russians from what you call "racist" attacks.   You claimed many additional things here which were patently false, and I pointed out facts which indicate the error of your claims.   You refuse to address those very obvious errors, including your promotion of the nazi Achmedinejad as a good person.   You are a sick, sick individual.

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Re: Putin vows ‘Russia will never forget Holocaust’
« Reply #149 on: November 15, 2012, 01:51:27 AM »
I think you are barking up the wrong tree JTFE. You owe Ephraim an apology.