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jsullivan:
Yekutiel, the State Department banned Kahane Chai along with Kach in 1994 because the Rabbi's son Binyamin was involved with Kahane Chai. No one seriously considers the group you run now to be a real threat to the Israeli authorities. YOU HAVE NO REAL PROGRAM AMONG HEBREW SPEAKING ISRAELI JEWS, WHO ARE 95% OF ISRAELI JEWRY. The Hebrew page you have is only for show. No one goes to it.
You raise money for a referendum. You are going to be able to place a referendum on the Israeli ballot in today's Israel? This is just a gimmick that accomplishes nothing and you know it.
Noam has no program!? He is currently on trial with an elaborate 25 count indictment because of the program that he does in JTF's Hebrew section. You know very well that the authorities take Noam and Itamar Ben Gvir very seriously. The indictment against Noam specifically states that his JTF program could potentially persuade Israeli Jews to physically resist future expulsions which would disrupt the government plan to create an independent PLO-Hamas state in Judea, Samaria and the Gaza District.
As far as Chaim's Hebrew-language programs, the indictment specifically says the same thing: that these programs if continued may persuade Israeli Jews to physically resist the planned expulsions. The indictment makes clear that the programs of both Noam and Chaim are to be considered major threats to "public order" and "government policy", i.e. expelling Jews and surrendering more Jewish land to the Muslim terrorists. They cannot indict Chaim because they do not allow him to become an Israeli citizen. But about a third of Noam's very lengthy indictment deals with Chaim's program and the "major threat to government policy" that the program represents.
WE INVITE ALL OF OUR HEBREW-SPEAKING READERS TO GO TO JTF'S HEBREW FORUM - WHICH JUST STARTED LAST WEEK - TO SEE THE VERY HIGH QUALITY ISRAELI JEWISH YOUTH THAT JTF'S HEBREW PROGRAMS HAVE ATTRACTED TO THE KAHANIST MOVEMENT. MOST OF THE POSTERS ARE NOT EVEN RELIGIOUS BUT ARE INTERESTED IN BECOMING PART OF OUR MOVEMENT TO SAVE THE LAND OF ISRAEL.
Yekutiel, I urge you to start doing what JTF is doing. Stop the referendum nonsense. Start a HEBREW forum for Israeli Jewish youth, and do five Hebrew programs every week that reach young Jews.
If you want to see why the Bolsheviks are so worried about Noam and Chaim, go to our Hebrew forum and see EDUCATED, INTELLIGENT, DEVOTED YOUNG JEWS WHO DAILY ARE SIGNING UP. LOOK AT THEIR POSTS. THIS IS THE BOLSHEVIKS' GREATEST NIGHTMARE.
Anway, the JTF forum is not like Revava. We don't ban people simply because they disagree with us. To your credit, Yekutiel, on your forum you also do not ban people for merely disagreeing. So you can continue posting here as you wish despite our differences of opinion.
jsullivan:
Yacov, I don't know the answer to your latest question. If you want, I'll ask Chaim.
Or if you prefer, maybe you should place the question near the top of your questions for the upcoming Ask JTF program. When it comes to what is happening on the ground in Israel, especially if it involves Hebrew, questions should be posed to Chaim rather than me because my Hebrew is very limited, although I am now taking Hebrew lessons.
I think you know that Chaim is always happy to answer your questions.
jdl4ever:
Jsullivan, while Yukutiel goes on this site advocating unity (like the late R' Kahane hyd) you just resort to name calling and doing the "I better than thou" routine. Both JTF and Kahane.org are Kahanist organizations and we should work together. You have to realize that whether you agree with Yukutel or not, he was the right hand man of R' Kahane and his son for quite a while and I have no doubt he is continuing their campaign. You also have to realize the chalanges that Kahane.org faces which JTF does not face instead of poking fun at their exposure. Mainly, it is illegal to donate money to kahane.org since it was classified as a terrorist organization but JTF.org is not a terrorist organization so JTF gets more financial support (plus they have a cable show which means more exposure). Also you have to understand that Chaim lives in the U.S. so he can say and get away with much more than Yukutiel can since he lives in Israel. Also, since Chaim and yourself do not live in Israel like he does, he most probably has more Israeli support but this is mere speculation since I live in the US like you guys.
Tzvi Ben Roshel1:
Yekutiel is a Tzaddik for sure, and soo is Marzel, but sometimes I just see that we might be waisting unneccesary resources ( allthought in Shamayim its never goes to waist and every little effort counts), but materially campaigning and doing this and that is a waist of money ( expecially to what marzel does), and besides that its feeding into the system and making it as if its legit, expecially to what the yesha council proposed of "lets have a referendum" and "ze lo ma ha am rotze" this isnt what the people want" , these slogans make democracy and the majority into G-d , and dont even mention the torah of Israel ( The Real Law Of AM YISRAEL).
kahaneloyalist:
Tzvi, that is exactly why some people are working towards the restoration of Malchut Beis David. To replace this accursed Democracy
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