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nikmatdam:
sorry it took me so long to conclude my first piece... but tell me... why doesn't this rise to the top when a fresh reply is added...? especially if it is the hotest thread currently going here...? nik.
kahaneloyalist:
other subjects have been made sticky so they stay at the top
nikmatdam:
thanks... n.
Nahum:
Jsullivan,
when you say you are not abou talk, just action, what exactly do you do. with all due respect. i am not tryin gto undermine you or anythin gof that sort i am just curious as to what you guys actually do.
nikmatdam:
i have some more to say on revava...
a few other things stick out in my mind from my dealings with david and yisroel...
a) yisroel lost a copy of my book... said he dropped it off at ohr somayach but they said they never received it... then i gave him another to hand deliver to the rav in quest. house and he sat on it for over a year... finally i asked him to return it to me which he did... turned out i had lost my one last copy... but anyhow... i had told him that my book an historical-novel on the life of avraham avinu... titled: "moriah revisited" was meaningful to adress all of today's problems between the world and israel... that all of history is nimrod vs. avraham over and over again in the guise of esav vs. yaakov... and so he promptly "lost" the first copy and forgot or had no time to deliver the second attempted one... my rav will read it and hopefully help me get it published...
b) david, yis. from revava and matt from bnai elim were going nuts last summer to get on the american zionist something or other and be given a voice in the world zio. org. and when i confronted them as to what a monumental waste of time and chillul hashem this effort was they said we want them to turn us away to make them appear biased against us....
first of all... after '88 and rav meir's banning we don't need anymore proof that secular zionism is afraid of us and banned us to keep us from power and that they will never let us back thru the door... not even this kind of back door...
second... they wanted so much of our time for this "crucial" name gathering campaign and petition drive. ... that it was taking away from efforts to stop the gush katif and amona debacles... which i never understood as to why they were doing it... now i know... to sabotage all of our efforts to get anything done about keeping our settlements...
third... their whole campaign to go up on har habayit... admittedly important and not a distraction from the yesha issue as yerush. is part of yesha... but everytime there is a major demonstration yis. and david never get thru to be there when things might turn ugly... they are both always conviently stopped and detained and they go so early to try and get into the kotel area that they are easy to spot and arrest... why not go up with the masses and try and sneak thru...?
and now for the clincher... in a moment of what i now know to be an unguarded moment where yis. let down his defenses and offered me his real truthful feelings... he said and if he denies this he is lying... he said: "they should all just give it up and the best thing for them would be if they were made to leave and come back into the real world and have to get real jobs..." etc. something along these lines... he said this about david and tapuach and all the settlements... and i was shocked... then why is he risking his life to raise money to save these frontier towns...? it made no sense and i dismissed the statement as his fatigue showing from the long haul of being on the road... but now we see perhaps the real agenda... the actual truth coming out...
because anyway... why does the shabak need a street-tough yeshivah boy from queens to watch the israeli-left for them...? this is what he says he was doing in the secret service... bull... he was recruited because for whatever sick reason his real sympathies lie with the satanic murderers of our people and the slime around the world who make the is. gov't erev rav filth do what they do... and yis. also told me he was guilty of many a thing or two growing up in ny he wasn't proud of... so his cred. as a member in good standing with the faithful trying to defend Hashem's holy land is now in question and both he and david have alot of explaining to do...
besides the abysmal way they run that forum of theirs... nik. out for now...
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