To Those Of You who Type in Eboncs...

[Erica]

WHY in the HELL do you do that? You do know that I'm the only black person (opposite your views) who is here that doesn't use ebonics to communicate with anyone here, right? What are you trying to prove?

[newman]

we isn't tryin' ta prove nuttin', woman. mmmm hmmmm

[Dan]

 

[Erica]

we isn't tryin' ta prove nuttin', woman. mmmm hmmmm

Don't play around, Newman. If you're going to present this 'intelligent MAN' persona, own up to it and answer the question. I don't want to assume that you're this stupid on a daily basis. Give me something I can work with.

[newman]

we isn't tryin' ta prove nuttin', woman. mmmm hmmmm

Don't play around, Newman. If you're going to present this 'intelligent MAN' persona, own up to it and answer the question. I don't want to assume that you're this stupid on a daily basis. Give me something I can work with.

'intelligent MAN' ??

I aint one o' dem, woman. I's ignorant. Da first time I wents to one o' dem fany resteraunts where de' bring dem finger bowls, I says..."hey. We didn'ts order no lemon soup!" mmmm hmmm.

[Erica]

we isn't tryin' ta prove nuttin', woman. mmmm hmmmm

Don't play around, Newman. If you're going to present this 'intelligent MAN' persona, own up to it and answer the question. I don't want to assume that you're this stupid on a daily basis. Give me something I can work with.

'intelligent MAN' ??

I aint one o' dem, woman. I's ignorant. Da first time I wents to one o' dem fany resteraunts where de' bring dem finger bowls, I says..."hey. We didn'ts order no lemon soup!" mmmm hmmm.

Just as I thought. Totally incapable of carrying on as an intelligent human being...so you resort to talking in ebonics or 'jive' to make black people look stupid. In all actuality though, you're making yourself look like an ass.

[OdKahaneChai]

we isn't tryin' ta prove nuttin', woman. mmmm hmmmm

Don't play around, Newman. If you're going to present this 'intelligent MAN' persona, own up to it and answer the question. I don't want to assume that you're this stupid on a daily basis. Give me something I can work with.

'intelligent MAN' ??

I aint one o' dem, woman. I's ignorant. Da first time I wents to one o' dem fany resteraunts where de' bring dem finger bowls, I says..."hey. We didn'ts order no lemon soup!" mmmm hmmm.

Just as I thought. Totally incapable of carrying on as an intelligent human being...so you resort to talking in ebonics or 'jive' to make black people look stupid. In all actuality though, you're making yourself look like an donkey.

Always rainin' on da party... I thinks she be white!

[newman]

we isn't tryin' ta prove nuttin', woman. mmmm hmmmm

Don't play around, Newman. If you're going to present this 'intelligent MAN' persona, own up to it and answer the question. I don't want to assume that you're this stupid on a daily basis. Give me something I can work with.

'intelligent MAN' ??

I aint one o' dem, woman. I's ignorant. Da first time I wents to one o' dem fany resteraunts where de' bring dem finger bowls, I says..."hey. We didn'ts order no lemon soup!" mmmm hmmm.

Just as I thought. Totally incapable of carrying on as an intelligent human being...so you resort to talking in ebonics or 'jive' to make black people look stupid. In all actuality though, you're making yourself look like an donkey.

Always rainin' on da party... I thinks she be white!

She be gittin' uptight, home.

She be startin' up da ebonics thread, den she no want no ebonics!

I cants figure da woman out. mmmm hmmm.

[Erica]

we isn't tryin' ta prove nuttin', woman. mmmm hmmmm

Don't play around, Newman. If you're going to present this 'intelligent MAN' persona, own up to it and answer the question. I don't want to assume that you're this stupid on a daily basis. Give me something I can work with.

'intelligent MAN' ??

I aint one o' dem, woman. I's ignorant. Da first time I wents to one o' dem fany resteraunts where de' bring dem finger bowls, I says..."hey. We didn'ts order no lemon soup!" mmmm hmmm.

Just as I thought. Totally incapable of carrying on as an intelligent human being...so you resort to talking in ebonics or 'jive' to make black people look stupid. In all actuality though, you're making yourself look like an donkey.

Always rainin' on da party... I thinks she be white!

She be gittin' uptight, home.

She be startin' up da ebonics thread, den she no want no ebonics!

I cants figure da woman out. mmmm hmmm.

I asked why you did it, not to show me more ignorance, newman. You're impossible.

[newman]

I asked why you did it, not to show me more ignorance, newman. You're impossible.

I's so ignorant, when a girl tell me she be a lesbian one time, I axe her what part o' Lesbia she be from. mmmm hmmm

[Erica]

I asked why you did it, not to show me more ignorance, newman. You're impossible.

I's so ignorant, when a girl tell me she be a lesbian one time, I axe her what part o' Lesbia she be from. mmmm hmmm

What a [censored] you are.

[newman]

I'm laughing uncontrollably from this thread.

Whatchu laughin' at, cracker?....mmmm hmmm

[Erica]

we isn't tryin' ta prove nuttin', woman. mmmm hmmmm

Don't play around, Newman. If you're going to present this 'intelligent MAN' persona, own up to it and answer the question. I don't want to assume that you're this stupid on a daily basis. Give me something I can work with.

'intelligent MAN' ??

I aint one o' dem, woman. I's ignorant. Da first time I wents to one o' dem fany resteraunts where de' bring dem finger bowls, I says..."hey. We didn'ts order no lemon soup!" mmmm hmmm.

Just as I thought. Totally incapable of carrying on as an intelligent human being...so you resort to talking in ebonics or 'jive' to make black people look stupid. In all actuality though, you're making yourself look like an donkey.

Then why don't you use proper grammer?

I DID use proper grammar... your sensor won't let me type A*S *S...as a word. "An" is only correct when the next word begins with  a vowel. Since that word that begins with a vowel was censored, 'donkey' replaced it.

[cjd]

I asked why you did it, not to show me more ignorance, newman. You're impossible.

I's so ignorant, when a girl tell me she be a lesbian one time, I axe her what part o' Lesbia she be from. mmmm hmmm

[newman]

we isn't tryin' ta prove nuttin', woman. mmmm hmmmm

Don't play around, Newman. If you're going to present this 'intelligent MAN' persona, own up to it and answer the question. I don't want to assume that you're this stupid on a daily basis. Give me something I can work with.

'intelligent MAN' ??

I aint one o' dem, woman. I's ignorant. Da first time I wents to one o' dem fany resteraunts where de' bring dem finger bowls, I says..."hey. We didn'ts order no lemon soup!" mmmm hmmm.

Just as I thought. Totally incapable of carrying on as an intelligent human being...so you resort to talking in ebonics or 'jive' to make black people look stupid. In all actuality though, you're making yourself look like an donkey.

Then why don't you use proper grammer?

I DID use proper grammar... your sensor won't let me type A*S *S...as a word. "An" is only correct when the next word begins with  a vowel. Since that word that begins with a vowel was censored, 'donkey' replaced it.

Then why didn't you remove the n when you saw that?

Dis here be de ebonics thread, home. Gramma be some honkey, cracker thang. we don' be playin' dat. mmmm hmmm.

[Erica]

we isn't tryin' ta prove nuttin', woman. mmmm hmmmm

Don't play around, Newman. If you're going to present this 'intelligent MAN' persona, own up to it and answer the question. I don't want to assume that you're this stupid on a daily basis. Give me something I can work with.

'intelligent MAN' ??

I aint one o' dem, woman. I's ignorant. Da first time I wents to one o' dem fany resteraunts where de' bring dem finger bowls, I says..."hey. We didn'ts order no lemon soup!" mmmm hmmm.

Just as I thought. Totally incapable of carrying on as an intelligent human being...so you resort to talking in ebonics or 'jive' to make black people look stupid. In all actuality though, you're making yourself look like an donkey.

Then why don't you use proper grammer?

I DID use proper grammar... your sensor won't let me type A*S *S...as a word. "An" is only correct when the next word begins with  a vowel. Since that word that begins with a vowel was censored, 'donkey' replaced it.

Then why didn't you remove the n when you saw that?

Why should I have to? This is YOUR site. YOU remove the 'n'. And another thing, if I'd actually gotten away with typing the 'a' word and removed the 'n' as a precaution, you'd bash me on that.

[Ehud]

Why can't black people learn how to speak correctly, Erica?  There are people in my law school who practically speak in ebonics and you can barely even tell what they're saying.  Why can immigrants come to the U.S. and learn how to speak perfectly (like my Russian friend who moved here 10 years ago and speaks perfectly) but black people can't?

[Erica]

Why can't black people learn how to speak correctly, Erica?  There are people in my law school who practically speak in ebonics and you can barely even tell what they're saying.  Why can immigrants come to the U.S. and learn how to speak perfectly (like my Russian friend who moved here 10 years ago and speaks perfectly) but black people can't?

Why are you generalizing, once again? Its not as if NO black person speaks proper English.

Second, I've gone through this question before and I was called stupid for bringing the answer to the forefront. Ebonics is similar to slave speak. You heard it in Negro Spirituals, and some speeches. You also heard it from Southern Whites of yester-year. When Africans were 'brought' to America, the ony languages they knew of was from their own land. It would have sounded like Ebonics to anyone who wasn't from where they came from.

WHen they learned to speak broken English to communicate with their masters, they developed a new way of speaking. It wasn't good because it wasn't proper English...it wasn't bad, either because at least they could communicate a little. As for why ebonics is spoken so much now in the black community, I don't know for sure. But I'll offer that the ancestors from the South had something to do with the dumbing down of black society where language is concerned.People were told they couldn't go to school, so they didn't. People were told that they couldn't read, so they didn't. The cycle continues today. I hope to rid our public schools of ebonics..I can start with my class though.

[newman]

Why can't black people learn how to speak correctly, Erica?  There are people in my law school who practically speak in ebonics and you can barely even tell what they're saying.  Why can immigrants come to the U.S. and learn how to speak perfectly (like my Russian friend who moved here 10 years ago and speaks perfectly) but black people can't?

Why are you generalizing, once again? Its not as if NO black person speaks proper English.

By Ze'ev.....: (repeated by Newman)

See here's an example of what I'm saying, this statement of yours shows how you believe we are looking at this issue. We don't say that the action of one person constitutes the action of an entire people. This is the frame of thinking that you use in your example. THe fact that you actually believe that we think that way is sort of ridiculous, I'm actually surprised at it. Let me make our position clearer, obviously you're making an example of us that is grossly exaggerated. We think that when we find many many many many examples of something, which is backed up with empirical evidence, we can legitimately claim that as an issue which has a pervasiveness that is unique in severity and degree to that community. This is how the entire world thinks of ideas and concepts and it is not a new concept to me and newman by any means.

[Erica]

Why can't black people learn how to speak correctly, Erica?  There are people in my law school who practically speak in ebonics and you can barely even tell what they're saying.  Why can immigrants come to the U.S. and learn how to speak perfectly (like my Russian friend who moved here 10 years ago and speaks perfectly) but black people can't?

Why are you generalizing, once again? Its not as if NO black person speaks proper English.

Second, I've gone through this question before and I was called stupid for bringing the answer to the forefront. Ebonics is similar to slave speak. You heard it in Negro Spirituals, and some speeches. You also heard it from Southern Whites of yester-year. When Africans were 'brought' to America, the ony languages they knew of was from their own land. It would have sounded like Ebonics to anyone who wasn't from where they came from.

WHen they learned to speak broken English to communicate with their masters, they developed a new way of speaking. It wasn't good because it wasn't proper English...it wasn't bad, either because at least they could communicate a little. As for why ebonics is spoken so much now in the black community, I don't know for sure. But I'll offer that the ancestors from the South had something to do with the dumbing down of black society where language is concerned.People were told they couldn't go to school, so they didn't. People were told that they couldn't read, so they didn't. The cycle continues today. I hope to rid our public schools of ebonics..I can start with my class though.

So at least you agree with JTF that Ebonics is a problem.

I've always thought it was a problem. What YOU think isn't at the forefront of my thoughts day in and day out of my life. You do know I had/ have a life before I came to this site, don't you.

[Erica]

Then why isn't black culture as a whole a problem? Isn't Ebonics just a part of that culture? Saying Ebonics is a problem without saying the cause of it is a problem is like saying terrorism is a problem without saying the ideology of Islam that's behind the terrorist is the cause of the problem.

Black culture AS A WHOLE is not a problem because not ALL of black culture is representative of a problem. I presented the cause of it, and gave you what I knew of it and what I was taught about it. That didn't answer your question?

How many black familes have you visited, Yacov? What do you know about them? What are their interests? Are there any special things you like or don't like about what you saw? What?

[Erica]

Newman, or anyone else, you don't have a real reason for typing in Ebonics, do you? Its just to show that you can be just as ignorant as a black person with no idea of how to speak English. You've proven your point, now act like the REAL you.

[newman]

Newman, or anyone else, you don't have a real reason for typing in Ebonics, do you? Its just to show that you can be just as ignorant as a black person with no idea of how to speak English. You've proven your point, now act like the REAL you.

No Erica.

It's to poke fun at bad people.(NOT YOU)

Like folks at Israel National Radio talk in funny arab accents sometimes.

[Erica]

Newman, or anyone else, you don't have a real reason for typing in Ebonics, do you? Its just to show that you can be just as ignorant as a black person with no idea of how to speak English. You've proven your point, now act like the REAL you.

No Erica.

It's to poke fun at bad people.(NOT YOU)

Like folks at Israel National Radio talk in funny arab accents sometimes.

There are no bad black people here. Why bring it here?

[newman]

Newman, or anyone else, you don't have a real reason for typing in Ebonics, do you? Its just to show that you can be just as ignorant as a black person with no idea of how to speak English. You've proven your point, now act like the REAL you.

No Erica.

It's to poke fun at bad people.(NOT YOU)

Like folks at Israel National Radio talk in funny arab accents sometimes.

There are no bad black people here. Why bring it here?

There are no muslims here but we still poke fun at them.