Author Topic: Trump omitted mention of Jews regarding holocaust, in subservience to altright (Read 8816 times)

Kahane-Was-Right BT · « **on:** January 30, 2017, 02:02:11 PM »

Holocaust denial from the White House. Extremely dangerous. The alt right and white nationalists are dancing for joy and envisioning death camps they can design.

Nevski · « **Reply #1 on:** January 30, 2017, 02:13:08 PM »

Where did he deny the holocaust? Show me please and don't spread lies.

Kahane-Was-Right BT · « **Reply #2 on:** January 30, 2017, 02:15:49 PM »

Quote from: Nevski on January 30, 2017, 02:13:08 PM

Where did he deny the holocaust? Show me please and don't spread lies.

Don't accuse it of being a lie just because you are uninformed, douchenozzle.

Google it. Maybe I will post the link later if you get tired and can't find it. Low energy.

Nevski · « **Reply #3 on:** January 30, 2017, 02:23:20 PM »

Quote from: Kahane-Was-Right BT on January 30, 2017, 02:15:49 PM

Don't accuse it of being a lie just because you are uninformed, douchenozzle.

Google it. Maybe I will post the link later if you get tired and can't find it. Low energy.

He never denied the holocaust. You are a liar.

Nevski · « **Reply #4 on:** January 30, 2017, 02:25:59 PM »

Opening a topic without a link, source or any kind of info is dumb. Save us your nonsense.

Zelhar · « **Reply #5 on:** January 30, 2017, 03:04:13 PM »

I think you attribute too much subcontext, Trump is not a holocaust denier. The omission is possibly deliberate by Bannon, that's a maybe and depends on whether he had anything to do with the statement.

eb22 · « **Reply #6 on:** January 30, 2017, 03:05:09 PM »

Fir what it's worth, on Twitter, V.P. Mike Pence mentioned the Jewish people on Holocaust Remembrance Day.

https://twitter.com/VP/status/825107821461114880

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This #HolocaustRemembrance Day, we join the Jewish people to remember the victims & honor the survivors of the past for sake of the future.

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Zelhar · « **Reply #7 on:** January 30, 2017, 03:07:50 PM »

He ommited the Roma and the Sinti, and the gays, what a putz.

Quote from: eb22 on January 30, 2017, 03:05:09 PM

Fir what it's worth, on Twitter, V.P. Mike Pence mentioned the Jewish people on Holocaust Remembrance Day.

https://twitter.com/VP/status/825107821461114880

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This #HolocaustRemembrance Day, we join the Jewish people to remember the victims & honor the survivors of the past for sake of the future.

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eb22 · « **Reply #8 on:** January 30, 2017, 03:10:15 PM »

Quote from: Nevski on January 30, 2017, 02:25:59 PM

Opening a topic without a link, source or any kind of info is dumb. Save us your nonsense.

The following is from the JTF news site:

https://jtf.org/reince-priebus-has-no-regrets-over-omitting-jews-from-holocaust-remembrance-statement/

eb22 · « **Reply #9 on:** January 30, 2017, 03:13:41 PM »

Quote from: Zelhar on January 30, 2017, 03:07:50 PM

He ommited the Roma and the Sinti, and the gays, what a putz.

Though I understand and respect the concerns from people on our side regarding the Jewish people not being mentioned in the statement, ultimately the actions of the Trump Administration regarding the core issues that we are concerned about will be the telling story of his Presidency. Including the so called peace process with Fakestine entities and the Iran nuclear situation.

Nevski · « **Reply #10 on:** January 30, 2017, 03:20:06 PM »

Quote from: eb22 on January 30, 2017, 03:10:15 PM

The following is from the JTF news site:

https://jtf.org/reince-priebus-has-no-regrets-over-omitting-jews-from-holocaust-remembrance-statement/

Then he is a disgrace! Still I do not see the link with Trump.

eb22 · « **Reply #11 on:** January 30, 2017, 03:26:36 PM »

Quote from: Nevski on January 30, 2017, 03:20:06 PM

Then he is a disgrace! Still I do not see the link with Trump.

He was hired by Donald Trump.

In any event, at the very least, it makes a great deal of sense for us to play close attention to what the Trump Administration is doing. I wrote in Ted Cruz on election day but I'm willing to give Trump a chance.

eb22 · « **Reply #12 on:** January 30, 2017, 03:34:30 PM »

Back in September, Kellyanne Conway wrote the following on Twitter. Maybe it was part of the strategy to get Jewish support for Donald Trump in the election but there's something positive to take out of this. It's easier to read by clicking on the Twitter link.

https://twitter.com/KellyannePolls/status/776758093606707200

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Mazel Tov. Beautiful story.
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A Holocaust survivor is getting his long-delayed Bar Mitzvah -- at age 113. A lovely tale of patience and faith: http://bsun.md/2cs24fh

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Kahane-Was-Right BT · « **Reply #13 on:** January 30, 2017, 03:52:37 PM »

Quote from: Zelhar on January 30, 2017, 03:04:13 PM

I think you attribute too much subcontext, Trump is not a holocaust denier. The omission is possibly deliberate by Bannon, that's a maybe and depends on whether he had anything to do with the statement.

What evidence it had anything to do with Bannon or any other person involved? Trump is in charge of the white house it is the message he and his people chose to put out and HIS press secretary Spicer defended the comments when asked about it. That is on Trump 100%. None of us has any way of knowing who influenced him most on any particular decision.

Trump is responsible for the decisions he makes.

Kahane-Was-Right BT · « **Reply #14 on:** January 30, 2017, 03:55:50 PM »

Quote from: Nevski on January 30, 2017, 02:25:59 PM

Opening a topic without a link, source or any kind of info is dumb. Save us your nonsense.

Sounds like a really low energy forum member is very uninformed and was shocked by something I wrote which was covered in the national media but which he ignored. The first reaction was to call it a lie instead of getting informed. Pathetic. Now he's offended I didn't spoon feed the link to the information he wasn't aware of.

"I never heard of this thing" Does not equal "This is a lie."

Not practical for me to post links from phone. I will add links when I get home.

Kahane-Was-Right BT · « **Reply #15 on:** January 30, 2017, 04:00:06 PM »

Quote from: Nevski on January 30, 2017, 03:20:06 PM

Then he is a disgrace! Still I do not see the link with Trump.

Trump, as President, is in charge of the Executive branch. He resides in the White house and is responsible for messages emanating from there.

The only people I've ever seen argue that holocaust day should not be mentioned or that Jews should not be singled out for mention on that day (because other people suffered too, say the whiny babies) are people of the alt right and white nationalists groups who also argue that the holocaust is a hoax "to promote Jewish interests."

"Other people suffered, shut up about Jews" is literally their talking point and no one else's. And they are celebrating this.

Kahane-Was-Right BT · « **Reply #16 on:** January 30, 2017, 04:00:44 PM »

Quote from: eb22 on January 30, 2017, 03:10:15 PM

The following is from the JTF news site:

https://jtf.org/reince-priebus-has-no-regrets-over-omitting-jews-from-holocaust-remembrance-statement/

And there's your link. It was literally reported by this website.

Nevski · « **Reply #17 on:** January 30, 2017, 04:11:28 PM »

Quote from: Kahane-Was-Right BT on January 30, 2017, 04:00:44 PM

And there's your link. It was literally reported by this website.

Where did Trump deny the holocaust? You are a liar.

Zelhar · « **Reply #18 on:** January 30, 2017, 05:01:42 PM »

Yes Trump is ultimately responsible for whatever his minions do or say. I still don't think that that omission equals holocaust denial and I don't know if it was calculated or a mistake. And I agree with eb22, we'll judge the Trump administration by its actions.

Kahane-Was-Right BT · « **Reply #19 on:** January 30, 2017, 05:19:33 PM »

Quote from: Zelhar on January 30, 2017, 05:01:42 PM

Yes Trump is ultimately responsible for whatever his minions do or say. I still don't think that that omission equals holocaust denial and I don't know if it was calculated or a mistake. And I agree with eb22, we'll judge the Trump administration by its actions.

This is an action.

Kahane-Was-Right BT · « **Reply #20 on:** January 30, 2017, 05:22:35 PM »

Quote from: Nevski on January 30, 2017, 04:11:28 PM

Where did Trump deny the holocaust? You are a liar.

You are a chump who is riding trump.

Minimizing the events of the holocaust is a form of holocaust denial. "What Jews went through was no different than all others" is basically saying it didn't happen or at least giving credence to those who do. Like the people celebrating trumps message. The people who say it didn't happen want to do it to us again. Period.

It IS holocaust denial, the alright is obsessed with it and obviously they have the presidents ear.

IsraelForever · « **Reply #21 on:** January 30, 2017, 05:31:39 PM »

The Holocaust was all about killing Jews. Killing priests, gays and gypsies was NOT the Holocaust. How can you mention Holocaust day without mentioning that it was all about wiping out the Jews?! It's a slap in the face to Jews everywhere, and this denial does smack of Anti-Semitism and I don't care how Jewish Trump's grandchildren are.

Read this well-written article:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/the-trump-administrations-softcore-holocaust-denial/514974/

Nevski · « **Reply #22 on:** January 30, 2017, 05:52:24 PM »

Trump should has done his job. He didn't. This doesn't make him a holocaust denier. Very weak and sick to suggest so.

Kahane-Was-Right BT · « **Reply #23 on:** January 30, 2017, 06:17:13 PM »

Quote from: Nevski on January 30, 2017, 05:52:24 PM

Trump should has done his job. He didn't. This doesn't make him a holocaust denier. Very weak and sick to suggest so.

What job did he not do?
IT IS THE MESSAGE THAT CAME OUT OF HIS OFFICE

Very weak and sick to excuse this behavior.

Nevski · « **Reply #24 on:** January 30, 2017, 07:00:16 PM »

Quote from: Kahane-Was-Right BT on January 30, 2017, 06:17:13 PM

What job did he not do?
IT IS THE MESSAGE THAT CAME OUT OF HIS OFFICE

Very weak and sick to excuse this behavior.

Is it some kind of fetish of yours? Shout 'holocaust denier' even if someone didn't. So to not mention the holocaust makes you a holocaust denier? Or if someone from your office doesn't mention the holocaust makes you a holocaust denier? Sick person you are.