the serbs are friends of the jews (I've removed the accidently placed "NOT")

[the truth must be told]

You calling me a Nazi because I asked another persons point of view ?

obviously if you question someone elses viewpoint you are a nazi! didnt you know that? c'mon merkava dont be so foolish. if you dont agree or question these peoples views then you are a fascist nazi. that is reasonable is it not?

[Srbin]

Serbian chetniks were not friends of any nazi germans. They wanted the partizans to vanish so they used the nazis.

ok finally one of you admit that they did collaborate with the nazis. thanks. at least your honest ...

Of course. But do you think that chetniks killed jews just because they were using the nazis? And I mean using as in "I am your friend, give me your money and then i screw you because I have never liked you"

You are so childish. You see a photo of a chetnik and an "used" nazi officer and you think he is a nazi just because hit with him? You are so pathetic trying to ruin jew/serb relation. You know why you want to destroy it? You hate serbs and jews, and the way I see it, you are a nazi. What kind of paints do you have in your house? Let me guess, Mussolini, Hitler and the nazi swastika.

[Husar]

@merkava, dexter, bullcat3:

SINCE YOU WANT TO "debate",
WHAT'S THIS ?!!!!!

http://www.ultimatum.20m.com/3_4bih_kardinal.htm


 

WHERE IS THE DEBATE ?







ANY "RIGHTEOUS" ANSWER ?

[Husar]

MERKAVA, YOU CAN CHECK WHAT ANOTHER JEWISH USTASHA IS "DOING":



http://www.ultimatum.20m.com/8_ultimatum8/8_impressum.htm



THIS IS HIS USTASHA/NAZICROAT WEBSITE.



THE PROPAGANDA YOU WANT TO SEE/READ FROM THE NAZICROAT
IS A GERMAN-MADE PROPAGANDA, IN ORDER TO HAVE SERBS AND REMAINING SERBIA WITH THEM.
SERBS DID NOT ACCEPT AND WERE SLAUGHTERED BY EVERY POSSIBLE NAZI AROUND THEM,
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF SERBS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF SERBS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!






GO THERE:


http://www.ultimatum.20m.com/8_ultimatum8/8_impressum.htm




HE LISTENED TO NAZICROATS, LIKE YOU.

YOU MOCK 'CAUSE I'M SERB ?


ANYBODY CAN SPIT ON SERBIAN MEMORY ?

[mord]

Real Jew from Croatia says croations were worse then nazis expose



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JEWISH LITERATURE

While talking about the horrors of the Holocaust, Jewish literature tends to be ethnocentric. It is understandable to a certain degree. Still, when talking about suffering in Yugoslavia, all of the literature talks with one voice about "Serbs and Jews"... For Jews and Serbs the destiny was the same.

 "Encyclopedia of The Holocaust"
In many volumes of this book one can find many references on suffering of Serbs and Jews in Yugoslavia. Just look for: Croatia, Serbia, Jasenovac, Pavelic, Hussein al-, ... In the chapter on Croatia it says: "THE USTASHA REGIME IN CROATIA, AND PARTICULARLY THIS DRIVE IN THE SUMMER OF 1941 TO EXTERMINATE AND DISPOSSESS THE SERBS, WAS ONE OF THE MOST HORRENDOUS EPISODES OF WORLD WAR II . THE MURDER METHODS APPLIED BY THE USTASHA WERE EXTRAORDINARILY PRIMITIVE AND SADISTIC."

(Professor) Martin Gilbert: "The Holocaust"
This historian, the official biographer of Winston Churchill says: "in Yugoslavia, Hitler had an ideological and physical ally in the Croat Ustashi movement..."

(Professor) Helen Fein: "Accounting for Genocide"
This renowned historian says:"[Already] by June 1941, signs on public establishments [in Nazi Independent State of Croatia] read, NO SERBS, JEWS, NOMADS, AND DOGS ALLOWED. She clearly states:"...Nonpartisan sources agree that mass genocide was authorized by the state of Croatia. They concur the state instigated, planned, and executed masses against the Serbian Orthodox minority ...and that the Catholic clergy approved, led, or failed to denounce these massacres."

(Professor) Raul Hilberg: "The Destruction of the European Jews"
This is probably the best known book on the Jewish holocaust. It consists of two large volumes.
Briefly, this is what Dr. Hilberg says: Since April 1941, Serbia was under German occupation. But proud Serbs could never stand oppression. Soon they started uprising. Unlike anywhere else in occupied Europe, angry Nazi Germans invented 1:100 formula. For every German soldier killed 100 civilian hostages would be executed. Jewish male population was first among the hostages. Croatian Ustashi then finished (by use of gas vans) Jewish women and children of Serbia. This is how German Nazi commander of occupied Serbia could brag that "Jewish question in Serbia was solved".
In Fascist-Catholic Independent State of Croatia, Croat fascists eagerly and bestially exterminate Serbs (in the first place), Jews and Gypsies. Not only did Nazi Croats surpassed Nazi Germans and Fascist Italians - they shocked them with the bestial methods they implemented. It was Fascist Italians that tried to stop Ustashi bloody bacchanalia.

(Professor) Susan Zuccotti:"The Italians and the Holocaust - Persecution, Rescue, Survival" (New York, 1987)

Dr. Nora Levin:"The Holocaust"
The author reminds us:"The Ustashi were fanatics bent on the destruction of both Serbs and Jews... [They] murdered and tortured Jews and Serbs in indescribably bestial fashion. One of the most notorious camps in Hitler's Europe, Jasenovac, was in Croatia. Here the Ustashi used primitive implements in putting their victims to death - knives, axes, hammers and other iron tools... One source estimates that 770,000 Serbs, 40,000 Gypsies and 20,000 Jews were done to death in the Jasenovac camp [alone]."

Michael R. Marrus: "The Holocaust in History"
While talking about the Nazi satellites, the author says:"The overall level of violence was highest in Croatia, where Pavelic's Ustasha movement devised the most thoroughly totalitarian state of any satellite and pursued a merciless, bloody assault on the country's two million Serbs..."

(Professor) Clive Ponting: "Armageddon"
This historian and politician says: "The greatest ethnic slaughter took place as Yugoslavia was carved up after the German invasion in April 1941. The creation of a separate Croatia ... controlled by the fascist, Catholic, extremist Ustasha movement was the catalyst for the tragedy... Now, historic Croatia was expanded to include Bosnia-Herzegovina and other teritories, and the Ustasha were left ... to govern a population of nearly 7 million people, of whom about half were Croats, just over 2 million were Serbs, about 750,000 were Muslims, and small numbers were Protestants and Jews.... The Minister of Education, Mile Budak, made clear the Ustasha aims: "Our new Croatia will get rid of all Serbs in our midst in order to become one hundred percent Catholic within ten years." He spoke of killing a third of the Serbs, converting a third, and expelling the remainder. The leader of the Ustasha, Ante Pavelic, said,"A good Ustasha is one who can use his knife to cut a child from the womb of its mother." (end quote).

Dr. Ronnie S. Landau: "The Nazi Holocaust"
In Yugoslav Croatia, too, there is evidence that officials of the Orthodox Church [that is - the Serbs] pleaded with the authorities [that is to the Nazi Croats - Ustashi] to curtail the vicious treatment meted out to both Orthodox Serbs and Jews.

Major Richard L. Felman
One of more than 500 American Airmen rescued by the Serbs during WWII says: "Many Serbs risked their lives during World War II to save countless Jews from Nazi death camps. This is something we can never forget and for which I and The Jewish People will always be grateful."

Gottlieb Hlinko:"Kaddish in the Serbian Forest" -"The Massacre of European Jewry: An Antology" (Israel: Kibbutz Merchavia, 1963)



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JEWISH REACTION TO THE CURRENT EVENTS

Some Jews still remember...

 They shared our fate
"As Jews, we do indeed have a historical obligation to the Serbs" says Mr. Joseph Lapid, a columnist and editorial writer for"Ma'ariv" a leading Hebrew daily.

 'Eden' of Sarajevo disappeared during WWII
Says Dr. Alfred Lipson, a Senior Researcher at Holocaust Resource Center and Archives, Queensborough Community College of the City University of New York, Bayside, N.Y.

 Serbs, Jews and Bosnia
Professor John Ranz, Chairperson Survivors of the Buchenwald Concentration Camp reminds us of the basic history of the region.

 A plan bad to the bone
Dr. Reich, the Director of the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington protests Croatian plan to mix the bones of the Holocaust's victims in Croatia with those of its perpetrators.

 Fascism is alive and well in Croatia
Professor Howard L. Adelson says "Today Ustashi murderers are being rehabilitated and are being extolled as national heroes by Tudjman despite the fact that they were among the most brutal villains [of WWII]."

 The Serbian soldiers - utterly truthful and honorable
...says Herb Brin, the oldest working American journalist and adds: "the decision to bomb the Serb position in Bosnia breaks my heart".

U.S. Jews and the Balkan Situation
Mr. Alvin Dorfman and Mrs. Heather Cottin explain how major Jewish organizations got to spread government anti-Serb propaganda.

Shame, shame, shame!
Charley Reese: "No sin blots American politics today more than the betrayal of the Serbs. No one ought to be more ashamed of U.S. treatment of the Serbs than American Jews."

Jewish motives
Dr. Yohanan Ramati, the Director of The Jerusalem Institute for Western Defence explains mentality of diaspora Jews. How did they alow to be duped.

An open letter to the American Jewish Commitee
Mr. Danon Cadik, the chief Rabbi of Yugoslavia, et. al., pleads for justice.

Set your records straight!
Mr. Jasa Almuli, past President of the Jewish Community of Belgrade and past Vice-President of Jewish Communities in Yugoslavia, pleads for truth.

The Serbs had for ever won a place in the hearts of the Jews
"We the surviving Jews of Serbia have for them respect and understanding. We know that the basic motive of their recent rebellion in secessionist Croatia and Bosnia and Hercegovina were their distrust and deep apprehension after they have been slaughtered in the Nazi era by the Croat Ustashas and Muslim SS..." says Dr. Aleksandar Mosic, Former Deputy President, Federation of Jewish Communities in Yugoslavia.

Serbs are our brothers in soul
"A media Auschwitz, was perpetrated on the Serbian people! The Serbs were dehumanized and portrayed as monsters exactly as the Jews were portrayed through centuries. Do not participate in persecution of the Serbs. They are our brothers. They are people who share the same destiny with us, the Jewish people." says Professor and composer Enriko Josif.

60 Minutes...more yellow journalism on Bosnia!
An open letter by Mrs. Sandy Marquette a Jew from Chicago.

The European Hoodlum Democracy Will Not Break the Serbs
Dr. Klara Mandic, a senior Belgrade Jewish community leader explains the Serbian motives.

America in the Eye of a Hurricane
Dr. Henry Kissinger reminds us that Bosnia had never been an independent state and warns us that long American tradition of support to self-determination has been betrayed.



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Where am I? PATH:

Book of facts


History of the Balkans
Before World War One
(Who got to the Balkans and when.)
World War One
(The formation of the first Yugoslavia.)
  World War II
(Who was Nazi and who was not.)
After WWII - Tito's Yugoslavia
(Who controlled the country.)
Big powers and civil wars in Yugoslavia
(How was Yugoslavia dismantled and why.)
Proxies at work
(Muslims and Croats were only proxies of the big powers)
The Aftermath 

[Husar]

BAN THIS NAZICROAT TAKKIYAH USER.

Instead of banning him, disproove what he is saying.

Are you kidding me ?

We Serbs are not rats in your laboratory.

Disproove it yourself.

Are we supposed to respond to ANY silly NAZICROAT pretendings ?

Why don't you open a "save nazicroatia" section,
and "debate" with them yourself ?...

[Husar]

Real Jew from Croatia says croations were worse then nazis expose



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JEWISH LITERATURE

While talking about the horrors of the Holocaust, Jewish literature tends to be ethnocentric. It is understandable to a certain degree. Still, when talking about suffering in Yugoslavia, all of the literature talks with one voice about "Serbs and Jews"... For Jews and Serbs the destiny was the same.

 "Encyclopedia of The Holocaust"
In many volumes of this book one can find many references on suffering of Serbs and Jews in Yugoslavia. Just look for: Croatia, Serbia, Jasenovac, Pavelic, Hussein al-, ... In the chapter on Croatia it says: "THE USTASHA REGIME IN CROATIA, AND PARTICULARLY THIS DRIVE IN THE SUMMER OF 1941 TO EXTERMINATE AND DISPOSSESS THE SERBS, WAS ONE OF THE MOST HORRENDOUS EPISODES OF WORLD WAR II . THE MURDER METHODS APPLIED BY THE USTASHA WERE EXTRAORDINARILY PRIMITIVE AND SADISTIC."

(Professor) Martin Gilbert: "The Holocaust"
This historian, the official biographer of Winston Churchill says: "in Yugoslavia, Hitler had an ideological and physical ally in the Croat Ustashi movement..."

(Professor) Helen Fein: "Accounting for Genocide"
This renowned historian says:"[Already] by June 1941, signs on public establishments [in Nazi Independent State of Croatia] read, NO SERBS, JEWS, NOMADS, AND DOGS ALLOWED. She clearly states:"...Nonpartisan sources agree that mass genocide was authorized by the state of Croatia. They concur the state instigated, planned, and executed masses against the Serbian Orthodox minority ...and that the Catholic clergy approved, led, or failed to denounce these massacres."

(Professor) Raul Hilberg: "The Destruction of the European Jews"
This is probably the best known book on the Jewish holocaust. It consists of two large volumes.
Briefly, this is what Dr. Hilberg says: Since April 1941, Serbia was under German occupation. But proud Serbs could never stand oppression. Soon they started uprising. Unlike anywhere else in occupied Europe, angry Nazi Germans invented 1:100 formula. For every German soldier killed 100 civilian hostages would be executed. Jewish male population was first among the hostages. Croatian Ustashi then finished (by use of gas vans) Jewish women and children of Serbia. This is how German Nazi commander of occupied Serbia could brag that "Jewish question in Serbia was solved".
In Fascist-Catholic Independent State of Croatia, Croat fascists eagerly and bestially exterminate Serbs (in the first place), Jews and Gypsies. Not only did Nazi Croats surpassed Nazi Germans and Fascist Italians - they shocked them with the bestial methods they implemented. It was Fascist Italians that tried to stop Ustashi bloody bacchanalia.

(Professor) Susan Zuccotti:"The Italians and the Holocaust - Persecution, Rescue, Survival" (New York, 1987)

Dr. Nora Levin:"The Holocaust"
The author reminds us:"The Ustashi were fanatics bent on the destruction of both Serbs and Jews... [They] murdered and tortured Jews and Serbs in indescribably bestial fashion. One of the most notorious camps in Hitler's Europe, Jasenovac, was in Croatia. Here the Ustashi used primitive implements in putting their victims to death - knives, axes, hammers and other iron tools... One source estimates that 770,000 Serbs, 40,000 Gypsies and 20,000 Jews were done to death in the Jasenovac camp [alone]."

Michael R. Marrus: "The Holocaust in History"
While talking about the Nazi satellites, the author says:"The overall level of violence was highest in Croatia, where Pavelic's Ustasha movement devised the most thoroughly totalitarian state of any satellite and pursued a merciless, bloody assault on the country's two million Serbs..."

(Professor) Clive Ponting: "Armageddon"
This historian and politician says: "The greatest ethnic slaughter took place as Yugoslavia was carved up after the German invasion in April 1941. The creation of a separate Croatia ... controlled by the fascist, Catholic, extremist Ustasha movement was the catalyst for the tragedy... Now, historic Croatia was expanded to include Bosnia-Herzegovina and other teritories, and the Ustasha were left ... to govern a population of nearly 7 million people, of whom about half were Croats, just over 2 million were Serbs, about 750,000 were Muslims, and small numbers were Protestants and Jews.... The Minister of Education, Mile Budak, made clear the Ustasha aims: "Our new Croatia will get rid of all Serbs in our midst in order to become one hundred percent Catholic within ten years." He spoke of killing a third of the Serbs, converting a third, and expelling the remainder. The leader of the Ustasha, Ante Pavelic, said,"A good Ustasha is one who can use his knife to cut a child from the womb of its mother." (end quote).

Dr. Ronnie S. Landau: "The Nazi Holocaust"
In Yugoslav Croatia, too, there is evidence that officials of the Orthodox Church [that is - the Serbs] pleaded with the authorities [that is to the Nazi Croats - Ustashi] to curtail the vicious treatment meted out to both Orthodox Serbs and Jews.

Major Richard L. Felman
One of more than 500 American Airmen rescued by the Serbs during WWII says: "Many Serbs risked their lives during World War II to save countless Jews from Nazi death camps. This is something we can never forget and for which I and The Jewish People will always be grateful."

Gottlieb Hlinko:"Kaddish in the Serbian Forest" -"The Massacre of European Jewry: An Antology" (Israel: Kibbutz Merchavia, 1963)



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JEWISH REACTION TO THE CURRENT EVENTS

Some Jews still remember...

 They shared our fate
"As Jews, we do indeed have a historical obligation to the Serbs" says Mr. Joseph Lapid, a columnist and editorial writer for"Ma'ariv" a leading Hebrew daily.

 'Eden' of Sarajevo disappeared during WWII
Says Dr. Alfred Lipson, a Senior Researcher at Holocaust Resource Center and Archives, Queensborough Community College of the City University of New York, Bayside, N.Y.

 Serbs, Jews and Bosnia
Professor John Ranz, Chairperson Survivors of the Buchenwald Concentration Camp reminds us of the basic history of the region.

 A plan bad to the bone
Dr. Reich, the Director of the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington protests Croatian plan to mix the bones of the Holocaust's victims in Croatia with those of its perpetrators.

 Fascism is alive and well in Croatia
Professor Howard L. Adelson says "Today Ustashi murderers are being rehabilitated and are being extolled as national heroes by Tudjman despite the fact that they were among the most brutal villains [of WWII]."

 The Serbian soldiers - utterly truthful and honorable
...says Herb Brin, the oldest working American journalist and adds: "the decision to bomb the Serb position in Bosnia breaks my heart".

U.S. Jews and the Balkan Situation
Mr. Alvin Dorfman and Mrs. Heather Cottin explain how major Jewish organizations got to spread government anti-Serb propaganda.

Shame, shame, shame!
Charley Reese: "No sin blots American politics today more than the betrayal of the Serbs. No one ought to be more ashamed of U.S. treatment of the Serbs than American Jews."

Jewish motives
Dr. Yohanan Ramati, the Director of The Jerusalem Institute for Western Defence explains mentality of diaspora Jews. How did they alow to be duped.

An open letter to the American Jewish Commitee
Mr. Danon Cadik, the chief Rabbi of Yugoslavia, et. al., pleads for justice.

Set your records straight!
Mr. Jasa Almuli, past President of the Jewish Community of Belgrade and past Vice-President of Jewish Communities in Yugoslavia, pleads for truth.

The Serbs had for ever won a place in the hearts of the Jews
"We the surviving Jews of Serbia have for them respect and understanding. We know that the basic motive of their recent rebellion in secessionist Croatia and Bosnia and Hercegovina were their distrust and deep apprehension after they have been slaughtered in the Nazi era by the Croat Ustashas and Muslim SS..." says Dr. Aleksandar Mosic, Former Deputy President, Federation of Jewish Communities in Yugoslavia.

Serbs are our brothers in soul
"A media Auschwitz, was perpetrated on the Serbian people! The Serbs were dehumanized and portrayed as monsters exactly as the Jews were portrayed through centuries. Do not participate in persecution of the Serbs. They are our brothers. They are people who share the same destiny with us, the Jewish people." says Professor and composer Enriko Josif.

60 Minutes...more yellow journalism on Bosnia!
An open letter by Mrs. Sandy Marquette a Jew from Chicago.

The European Hoodlum Democracy Will Not Break the Serbs
Dr. Klara Mandic, a senior Belgrade Jewish community leader explains the Serbian motives.

America in the Eye of a Hurricane
Dr. Henry Kissinger reminds us that Bosnia had never been an independent state and warns us that long American tradition of support to self-determination has been betrayed.



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Where am I? PATH:

Book of facts


History of the Balkans
Before World War One
(Who got to the Balkans and when.)
World War One
(The formation of the first Yugoslavia.)
  World War II
(Who was Nazi and who was not.)
After WWII - Tito's Yugoslavia
(Who controlled the country.)
Big powers and civil wars in Yugoslavia
(How was Yugoslavia dismantled and why.)
Proxies at work
(Muslims and Croats were only proxies of the big powers)
The Aftermath 

THANK YOU MORD FOR YOUR EFFORT.

[Husar]

Dr. Nora Levin:"The Holocaust"
The author reminds us:"The Ustashi were fanatics bent on the destruction of both Serbs and Jews... [They] murdered and tortured Jews and Serbs in indescribably bestial fashion. One of the most notorious camps in Hitler's Europe, Jasenovac, was in Croatia. Here the Ustashi used primitive implements in putting their victims to death - knives, axes, hammers and other iron tools... One source estimates that 770,000 Serbs, 40,000 Gypsies and 20,000 Jews were done to death in the Jasenovac camp [alone]."



BAN NAZICROATS.

OUR SERBIAN HONOR DEMANDS IT.

[Cojpe]

These stamps, which juxtaposed Jewish and Serbian symbols portrayed Judaism as the source of world evil and advocated the humiliation and violent subjugation of Jews. The most vicious Anti-Semitic stamps of the period.



Serbian Ant-Communist (Pro Nazi) poster from WW2.





Serbian Anti-Semitic Poster from World War 2.
Part of the Gallery of Serbian Anti-Jewish Exhibition in Belgrade 1941-1942. Serbian newspapers such as Obnova (Renewal) and Nasa Borba (Our Struggle) praised this exhibit, proclaiming that Jews were the ancient enemies of the Serbian people and that Serbs should not wait for the Germans to begin the extermination of the Jews. A few months later, Serbian authorities issued postage stamps commemorating the opening of this popular exhibit.

I knew it!!
I knew you will start with nazi WWII propaganda.
Already told you, there is no occupied country without this kind of stuff.

[Dexter]

BAN THIS NAZICROAT TAKKIYAH USER.

Instead of banning him, disproove what he is saying.

Are you kidding me ?

We Serbs are not rats in your laboratory.

Disproove it yourself.

Are we supposed to respond to ANY silly NAZICROAT pretendings ?

Why don't you open a "save nazicroatia" section,
and "debate" with them yourself ?...

Don't be silly, you, the Serbs claim he is lying, you should proove it yourself.
To be honest, I know nothing about the Serb-Croatian conflict, and I have no intrest in it.

[Merkava]

Whoa !!! Don't mess with Husar's "pride".....he will throw a tantrum 

[mord]

BAN THIS NAZICROAT TAKKIYAH USER.

Instead of banning him, disproove what he is saying.

Are you kidding me ?

We Serbs are not rats in your laboratory.

Disproove it yourself.

Are we supposed to respond to ANY silly NAZICROAT pretendings ?

Why don't you open a "save nazicroatia" section,
and "debate" with them yourself ?...

Don't be silly, you, the Serbs claim he is lying, you should proove it yourself.
To be honest, I know nothing about the Serb-Croatian conflict, and I have no intrest in it.

I a Jew have proved it as well as real Jews from Croatia

[Husar]

You know nothing, Dexter,
you said it yourself.

But as soon as a NAZICROAT comes here
with his propaganda, you seem to
appreciate their insults on the Serbs and Serbia.

 

[Dexter]

You know nothing, Dexter,
you said it yourself.

But as soon as a NAZICROAT comes here
with his propaganda, you seem to
appreciate their insults on the Serbs and Serbia.

 

No, I didn't said he is telling the truth, I just said we shouldn't ban him just for you the have the chance to disproove his claims. By banning him we actually admit what he is saying is true.

mord -
Fine, but that was a comment to Huser, that always say we should ban everyone who said something that doesn't fit well with his views.

[Cojpe]

"Although the Serbian version of history portrays wartime Serbia as a helpless, occupied territory, Serbian newspapers of the period offer a portrait of intensive collaboration. In Serbia during WW2, a new pro-Nazi government was established under the leadership of General Milan Nedic which governed until 1945."

Do you really think that newspapers in some occupied country wrote about something else than how people and government "get along" with German forces??

Gen. Milan Nedic was collaborator, actually he has same role in WWII Serbia as Marshal Philippe Pétain has in occupied France.

In fact every occupied country in Europe hes their own "Gen. Nedic", except countries like Croatia that were never occupied.

Please, stop copy-paste that croatian propaganda and try to point at some difference between Serbia and any other occupied country in WWII Europe instead.

[Cojpe]

You know nothing, Dexter,
you said it yourself.

But as soon as a NAZICROAT comes here
with his propaganda, you seem to
appreciate their insults on the Serbs and Serbia.

 

No, I didn't said he is telling the truth, I just said we shouldn't ban him just for you the have the chance to disproove his claims. By banning him we actually admit what he is saying is true.

mord -
Fine, but that was a comment to Huser, that always say we should ban everyone who said something that doesn't fit well with his views.

It doesent fit with your views too, problem is that you try get in to something that (as you said) "know nothing about" and "have no intrest in it".

If you really want to get in all of this, then learn something about balkan history and Serbo-Croatian conflict (which BTW start with WWII holocaust and nazi Croatia) and you will think same as Hussar or that guy on JTF videos thinks.

I am not for banning them too but I am not for debating with them for so long.

If you read my posts then you know briefly everything you need to know about subject.

Other thing is if you want to believe in something else...

[Husar]

GENOCIDE OF SERBS IN NAZICROATIA


 


IS NOT MY POINT OF VIEW;


 


IT IS A FACT AND A DEEP PAIN FOR EVERY SINGLE LIVING SERB.

[Lamed]

Serbian Chetniks and Italian Fascists working together in Herzegovina.



Chetnik Momcilo Djujic posing with an Italian Fascist Officer. Momcilo Djujic is well known and was one of the most influental Chetnik commanders outside central Serbia. He was an ardent supporter and follower of Dimitrije Ljotic and ZBOR.



This book dteails the Serbs extensive collaboration with the Nazis and Fascists.

And this is what you have to prove that Serbs were supposedly with Nazi's.THIS!

Till this moment I was very tolerant,BUT! since you are allowed to spit on more than a 700,000 victims of THE HOLOCAUST in Jasenovac by claiming that Serbs were with the nazis during WWII and therefore indirectly you are spitting on THE HOLOCAUST VICTIMS,I think I can not be tolerant any more.
First of all HOW STUPID A PERSON CAN BE TO CLAIM THAT SERBS WERE WITH NAZI'S AFTER WHAT HAZI'S WITH USTASHA'S DID TO THE SERBS.
Do you think that Serbs are MASOCHISTS!

Secondly this pictures you have presented are typical nazi and communist propaganda.Why communist?
Because it is well known that chetnics were for the King and for monarchy so they wanted Yugoslavia to remain monarchy after WWII is over,but unfortunately thanks to the betrayal of England and it's PM Churchill,communists took over the power in post war Serbia and then communist propaganda began,pointed against chetnics and all of those who were for the monarchy and for the King.
Still that doesn't erase the fact that both communist partisans (there were even jews who were partisans and fought against nazi's) and chetnics although with quite opposite ideology,fought against nazi's and croatian ustasha's.
AGAIN I CLAIM AND SAY,THESE ARE ALL HISTORICAL FACTS AND CAN ALL BE CHECKED IF ONLY THERE IS A LITTLE HONESTY AND DECENCY IN YOU.

[Husar]

Thank you, Lamed.


Serbs are getting less and less right to speak in this forum,
since, when we speak, NAZICROATS hear a "Serbian biased source" !!!!!


 

[Cojpe]

Do you think that Serbs are MASOCHISTS!

But it can look like fact for people that dont know nothing about Croats, Serbs or balkan history in generally.

SERBS CANT BE NAZI COLLABORATORS SIMPLY BECAUSE SERBS DONT LIKE GERMANS, NAZI GERMANS OR JUST GERMANS WE DONT LIKE THEM.

[Husar]

 

[Lamed]

Husar......I am an aspiring rapper and I composed a song just 4 u:

So come on and chickity check yourself
Before you wreck yourself

You betta check yo self
Fore you wreck yo self
Cause anger is baf for your health
I come real stealth

Dropping bombs in your minds
Screw the car alarms

Sold it for six-o
Always let tricks know
And friends know
We got that indoe

Yo, I'm not a sucka
Sitting in a house of pain
And, no, I'm not the butler
I am the hustler


Merkava in the studio

The point of this song is that I am interested in what this person has to say. When I was small I was told that they don't like us Jewish boys in Serbia. Maybe its true, maybe its not. I checked that link.....it makes sense to me.

And you consider yourself to be a righteous Jew with that kind of outfit and rap-crap music.
Don't be offended I don't want to mock you at all, but seriously if you are a Righteous Jew then I'm a REAL jedi knight.

[HiWarp]

Thank you, Lamed.


Serbs are getting less and less right to speak in this forum,
since, when we speak, NAZICROATS hear a "Serbian biased source" !!!!!


 

No Husar, I don't think that's true.

What have the Croats presented as proof?  They never dispute what they did during WWII, they only attack what the Serbs did using propaganda.  I am not intimately knowledgable with the history of Serbia but I'll say one thing; you can use supposed "facts" to argue your point if you selectively pick and choose only the facts that suit you.  And I believe this is what's happening here.

[Husar]

HiWarp,

not only NAZICROATS never dispute WHAT (!!!) they did during WWII
(neither in the last, ex-yugoslav war),
BUT JEWS NEITHER !!!

THEY ACCEPT NAZICROAT PROPAGANDA,
and just wait for the Serbs to deal with those beasts.....

This is not normal.

If Jews are ready to forget WHAT (!!!) NAZICROATS did to them,
Serbs will, on their side, NEVER FORGET, NEITHER FORGIVE.

IS SOMEONE ACKNOWLEDGABLE
OF THE HISTORY OF SERBIA,
IN THIS JTF FORUM,
OTHER THAN SERBS ?

[Husar]

IS THIS A "TITLE"
UNDER WHICH SERBS
SHALL "DEBATE" ?!!!!!!!!


"the serbs are NOT friends of the jews"



NAZICROATS PUT CHAOS
IN THE SERBIAN JTF SECTION PROPER.



CLOSE THIS HELLISH NAZICROAT "thread".