I am a bit Irrate right now

[MasterWolf1]

I happen to be Catholic and saw what was going on.  I love my faith and respect other peoples' faith try to do the same please?

[Lisa]

I'm sorry Masterwolf. For whatever it's worth, I did my best to stick up for you all, and I finally locked that thread. 

[MasterWolf1]

I know

[ape]

Lisa...what did I miss?

[Lisa]

I really should have locked this thread sooner.  But here's the link:

http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php?topic=12715.msg135591#msg135591

[Dr. Dan]

master wolf, I hope I didn't say anything that might have offended you. If I did, I'm sorry.

actually...i didn't say anything bad I dont' think.

[MasterWolf1]

No Dan you or Lisa didn't.  But people should be careful that some people can get offended and respect goes both ways

[Dr. Dan]

No Dan you or Lisa didn't.  But people should be careful that some people can get offended and respect goes both ways

certainly politeness is key...

I would like to add a question to this issue.  How do you feel about political correctness in moderation?

[newman]

master wolf, I hope I didn't say anything that might have offended you. If I did, I'm sorry.

actually...i didn't say anything bad I dont' think.

Appologising before establishing whether you've actually done anything wrong!....................Very Jewish, Dr Dan.

[Lisa]

But people should be careful that some people can get offended and respect goes both ways

I agree.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

I know it's too late but I think any non-Muslim can be a righteous Gentile.

[JTFFan]

I know it's too late but I think any non-Muslim can be a righteous Gentile.

Agreed.

[MasterWolf1]

Catholics are not strapping bombs on their children, we love our children, they are not chopping heads off and we are not forcing ourselves.  Do not compare Islamics to Catholics

[JTFFan]

Catholics are not strapping bombs on their children, we love our children, they are not chopping heads off and we are not forcing ourselves.  Do not compare Islamics to Catholics

Most Catholics are fine imo. My Dad is Irish Catholic. I'm Catholic and support Israel and the USA. Some are righteous, there's just a few that are anti-semetic, and nazis like the Croatian Catholics.

[newman]

Catholics are not strapping bombs on their children, we love our children, they are not chopping heads off and we are not forcing ourselves.  Do not compare Islamics to Catholics

Most Catholics are fine imo. My Dad is Irish Catholic. I'm Catholic and support Israel and the USA. Some are righteous, there's just a few that are anti-semetic, and nazis like the Croatian Catholics.

The problem is the Vatican, NOT ordinary catholics. An attack on church management is not an attack on the layety any more than an attack on Bush/Rice is an attack on ordinary Americans.

[MasterWolf1]

Catholics are not strapping bombs on their children, we love our children, they are not chopping heads off and we are not forcing ourselves.  Do not compare Islamics to Catholics

Most Catholics are fine imo. My Dad is Irish Catholic. I'm Catholic and support Israel and the USA. Some are righteous, there's just a few that are anti-semetic, and nazis like the Croatian Catholics.

They are not real Catholics, cause true Catholics are taught to love their fellow man and know that the teachings of Jerusalem is our salvation.  Nazis are not real they distorted everything.

[JTFFan]

Catholics are not strapping bombs on their children, we love our children, they are not chopping heads off and we are not forcing ourselves.  Do not compare Islamics to Catholics

Most Catholics are fine imo. My Dad is Irish Catholic. I'm Catholic and support Israel and the USA. Some are righteous, there's just a few that are anti-semetic, and nazis like the Croatian Catholics.

They are not real Catholics, cause true Catholics are taught to love their fellow man and know that the teachings of Jerusalem is our salvation.  Nazis are not real they distorted everything.

That's right. I also forget to point out that it's the Vatican as newman did.

[MasterWolf1]

I am quite sure that there are a lot of so called Jews that have distorted everything that Jews are to represent, same thing with some Catholics but you can't go after every Catholic for lets say something Croats have done.  They are monsters.   And as far as the Vatican goes I do not pay attention to the Vatican.  I follow my faith in my heart how I see fit.  Just as a careful to all.  If you going to slam all for the acts of a few is not right.

[Dr. Dan]

master wolf, I hope I didn't say anything that might have offended you. If I did, I'm sorry.

actually...i didn't say anything bad I dont' think.

Appologising before establishing whether you've actually done anything wrong!....................Very Jewish, Dr Dan.

It's a preview of what Chaim will answer in this Monday's askJTF...but being polite and apologizing even for something that was not intentional can go a looooooooooooooooong way to pacify angry people...not saying that masterwolf is angry..but in general...

[christians4jews]

I am quite sure that there are a lot of so called Jews that have distorted everything that Jews are to represent, same thing with some Catholics but you can't go after every Catholic for lets say something Croats have done.  They are monsters.   And as far as the Vatican goes I do not pay attention to the Vatican.  I follow my faith in my heart how I see fit.  Just as a careful to all.  If you going to slam all for the acts of a few is not right.

Do you follow the pope?and what he says

[Dr. Dan]

Catholics are not strapping bombs on their children, we love our children, they are not chopping heads off and we are not forcing ourselves.  Do not compare Islamics to Catholics

Most Catholics are fine imo. My Dad is Irish Catholic. I'm Catholic and support Israel and the USA. Some are righteous, there's just a few that are anti-semetic, and nazis like the Croatian Catholics.

The problem is the Vatican, NOT ordinary catholics. An attack on church management is not an attack on the layety any more than an attack on Bush/Rice is an attack on ordinary Americans.

I'll just say that there are somethings that the vatican says which is hurtful to us and israel...especially their stance on our Pals next door.

[MasterWolf1]

I am quite sure that there are a lot of so called Jews that have distorted everything that Jews are to represent, same thing with some Catholics but you can't go after every Catholic for lets say something Croats have done.  They are monsters.   And as far as the Vatican goes I do not pay attention to the Vatican.  I follow my faith in my heart how I see fit.  Just as a careful to all.  If you going to slam all for the acts of a few is not right.

Do you follow the pope?and what he says

You are the one that started this didn't you.  How you expect to be unified if you are going to slander groups?

[MasterWolf1]

Catholics are not strapping bombs on their children, we love our children, they are not chopping heads off and we are not forcing ourselves.  Do not compare Islamics to Catholics

Most Catholics are fine imo. My Dad is Irish Catholic. I'm Catholic and support Israel and the USA. Some are righteous, there's just a few that are anti-semetic, and nazis like the Croatian Catholics.

The problem is the Vatican, NOT ordinary catholics. An attack on church management is not an attack on the layety any more than an attack on Bush/Rice is an attack on ordinary Americans.

I'll just say that there are somethings that the vatican says which is hurtful to us and israel...especially their stance on our Pals next door.

The Pope has always been on the stance of being P.C. but human beings have minds of their own.  I love the Catholic faith but I do not follow what the Pope says on many things.  Do Jews follow everything some Rabbis say? Especially Rabbis who have gone against their own faith?  No of course not.

[Dr. Dan]

Catholics are not strapping bombs on their children, we love our children, they are not chopping heads off and we are not forcing ourselves.  Do not compare Islamics to Catholics

Most Catholics are fine imo. My Dad is Irish Catholic. I'm Catholic and support Israel and the USA. Some are righteous, there's just a few that are anti-semetic, and nazis like the Croatian Catholics.

The problem is the Vatican, NOT ordinary catholics. An attack on church management is not an attack on the layety any more than an attack on Bush/Rice is an attack on ordinary Americans.

I'll just say that there are somethings that the vatican says which is hurtful to us and israel...especially their stance on our Pals next door.

The Pope has always been on the stance of being P.C. but human beings have minds of their own.  I love the Catholic faith but I do not follow what the Pope says on many things.  Do Jews follow everything some Rabbis say? Especially Rabbis who have gone against their own faith?  No of course not.

My understanding is that according to Jewish tradition, especially observant Jews, they go with what their Rabbis say...the more liberal Jews dont' really. My family is traditional enough that we do respect the rabbi of our community..however recently, it's been tough...so we do have minds of our own when we have to use it that way.

[Lisa]

C4J, wasn't your previous post on Catholicism supposed to be your last?  I'd like to remind everyone here that we do not go around criticizing the religion or religious leaders of our wonderful fellow JFT'ers.  Many Jews here certainly do not like having Rabbi Ovadia Yosef criticized.  So it's only fair to show our Catholic friends the same respect.  This is not the place for critiquing the ideology and religious leaders of our loyal people.

Masterwolf is absolutely right when he says that Catholics don't go around strapping bombs on their children and making them kill themselves along with scores of others.  And Masterwolf is one of our oldest, best and most enthusiastic members.  He does a great job of promoting JTF and emailing people. 

So don't make me lock this thread as well!