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Lubab:
Raul is correct that making a statement not to convert though Chabad without saying publically why could lead to all sorts of wild thoughts about why Chabad is no good.
If you have a problem with Chabad's conversion process and you want people to know about it you should either: a) not mention it publically in the first place b) if you choose to mention it be prepared to explain to us all what is so bad about their conversion process to the issue may be addressed.
Lubab:
--- Quote from: ~*Mills*~ on February 16, 2008, 09:19:01 PM ---
--- Quote from: Raulmarrio2000 on February 16, 2008, 09:12:58 PM ---Sorru Mills, I thought that your actual Rav was also from Chabad and that you were leaving him, just because you disliked Lubab. Anyway I got upset at the advise to potentials converts, not to turn to Chabad, and the offer to explain the reasons privately. Anyone who reads that post may imagine anything not good about Chabadniks!!!!
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I apologise to you for my rudeness.
The reasons why I chose not to do gerut through Chabad hurt, I'm not going to lie. I cried for sometime.
But, I guess there are others who are happy in it, and if so then I would be no one to interfere with their choice.
Don't get me wrong, I still love Chabad, I donate, I like their events and they do great work in helping Jews, but in my opinion, it was not the best place for me and other gentiles I know to become Jewish in. Sometimes, some us felt..not welcomed.
Maybe I did go out of line with that statement though and I take it back.
I also owe Lubab an apology.
I have no right to hijack your thread.
Please forgive me from deviating from the subject and for my utter rudeness to you. You are doing an excellent job and are an amazing person, Lubab.
From now on, I will only post "ask Lubab" questions since it is your thread and you make the rules here.
And yes the no converting thing, I also apologize. My reasons I are so long. I guess the gist would be that some people choose to treat "converts" unfairly at times, not marry their children because of "convert" parents. Just overall things of the sort.
I did not want to believe it at first, but then remembered the rudeness I received from people and I did not want to keep attending the place or let my kids be subjected to anything when I do have them.
Of course, not everyone is like that, but in my personal experience and the experience of others I have spoken to,it was like that. They like I decided to just leave. And I was lucky by an "insider" in Chabad to be referred to a non-Chabad rabbi.
He urged me (and he was from Chabad) to reconsider my "conversion" with Chabad and asked to also look at other Orthodox groups. We had a very long chat.
I would do the same to any other Gentile considering "conversion" with them. But next time, I will do it privately.
I am very sorry.
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Apology accepted. We are commanded repeatedly in the Torah to treat a valid convert as a Jew in all respects. I'm sorry people do not follow this and you had these bad experiences.
Now let's get on with the show.
newman:
Lubab,
I know that in Judaism a human corpse must be treated with reverence and dignity, but does this apply to rodefim?
I mean in a war, if a bunch of muSSlim-nazis attack a Jewish village and get killed in the process, do Jews have to schvitz in the hot sun burying each one properly or can they be bulldozed into a quicklime ditch as quickly as possible?
Dr. Dan:
Lubab, how old are you and where are you from?
Lubab:
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on February 18, 2008, 12:11:26 PM ---Lubab, how old are you and where are you from?
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26. Originally from Southern California. :)
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