Guns and Self-Defense > Guns/Firearms
For every Jew-a .22!
White Israelite:
I question the effectiveness of a .22 for a self defense caliber as well. I've heard good things about the round but I'm not sure if that says how effective it is. I have heard that a .22 being shot at the head will bounce around in the brain, not sure how much evidence exists about this. With the standard capacity of most modern .45 (like Glocks, USP, etc.) being in the 12-13 range, I don't think missing is a problem, and unlikely the bad guy is going to get up for more.
newman:
You're all missing the point of the post.
A Toyota Yaris is NOT ideal for a cross-country road trip but it whoops the hell out of walking.
The issue is affordability of purchase, affordability of traing, safety in an apartment-dwelling/ urban environment and training venues.
The post is aimed at NYC Jews who've never fired a gun in their lives, not gun guys from Florida or Wyoming who own a dozen or more centerfires and have 300 meter ranges twenty minutes from their homes.
Do you think a NY Jew can just buy a .45 auto, high capacity 9mm, AR-15 or AK? Think again.
All 'assault weapons' are banned. Pistols with magazines over 10 rounds are banned. Any rifle-type centerfire round has exessive penetration for urban environments.
Yes, that does leave shotguns, centerfire revolvers, single stack pistols and pistol calibre carbines. But do you think a NYC Jew with 6 kids and high rent can buy sufficient ammo to practice effectively at over $0.50/round?
Where does he practice in Brooklyn other than at an indoor range that only accepts .22s or pistols?
Do you think his wife will just agree to a 12g pump in the home out of the blue.
A .22 is the STARTING POINT to shooting for many such people. Nobody is claiming it's the be-all and end-all of personal defense. From little seeds, big trees grow.::)
If the apes have another pogrom in Crown Heights, would it be better for ALL the Jews to be armed with 10/22s or beg the government for help?
old06:
Well I must say that a 22 is better that to try that reasoning crap with some one hell bent on hurting you or your love one I read a while back the FBI had a stat that more 22 are used to shoot some one than any other round, the Eskimos hunted all there meat for years with well worn 22, its one round that early bullet proof vest could not stop, president Reagan was almost killed withone. Next I have shot coyote, deer and many small game with one and yes I know the 22 is not leagel in many areas to hunt with I think in the hands of a skilled marksman it is so deadly by the way the CIA developed a sub sonic round better known as the CB cap to be used by there assassins. Yep I may not grab it first but I have shot many fire arms in my life and have qualified marksman in the service but if I was in a bind and had to flee fast i would grab a 22
newman:
--- Quote from: old06 on March 31, 2008, 10:01:59 PM ---Well I must say that a 22 is better that to try that reasoning crap with some one hell bent on hurting you or your love one I read a while back the FBI had a stat that more 22 are used to shoot some one than any other round, the Eskimos hunted all there meat for years with well worn 22, its one round that early bullet vest could not stop, president Reagan was almost killed withone. Next I have shot coyote, deer and many small game with one and yes I know the 22 is not leagel in many areas to hunt with I think in the hands of a skilled marksman it is so deadly by the way the CIA developed a sub sonic round better known as the CB cap to be used by there assassins. Yep I may not grab it first but I have shot many fire arms in my life and have qualified marksman in the service but if I was in a bind and had to flee fast i would grab a 22
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That's another point.
Re: Bugging out.
Many take it forgranted they'll have use of their half-ton pickup or SUV when the SHTF. LOL!
When the gas pups are off and ALL highways clogged, jammed or closed, you're gonna be on foot, like it or not.
If you limit ammo to 15 lbs (remember you've got weapons, food & camping gear to carry) here's what you can pack:
15 lbs of .308......................225 rds
" .223......................390 rds
" 12 g.....................123 rds
15 lbs of .22 LR....................1,850 rds!!
old06:
--- Quote from: newman on March 31, 2008, 10:14:14 PM ---
--- Quote from: old06 on March 31, 2008, 10:01:59 PM ---Well I must say that a 22 is better that to try that reasoning crap with some one hell bent on hurting you or your love one I read a while back the FBI had a stat that more 22 are used to shoot some one than any other round, the Eskimos hunted all there meat for years with well worn 22, its one round that early bullet vest could not stop, president Reagan was almost killed withone. Next I have shot coyote, deer and many small game with one and yes I know the 22 is not leagel in many areas to hunt with I think in the hands of a skilled marksman it is so deadly by the way the CIA developed a sub sonic round better known as the CB cap to be used by there assassins. Yep I may not grab it first but I have shot many fire arms in my life and have qualified marksman in the service but if I was in a bind and had to flee fast i would grab a 22
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That's another point.
Re: Bugging out.
Many take it forgranted they'll have use of their half-ton pickup or SUV when the SHTF. LOL!
When the gas pups are off and ALL highways clogged, jammed or closed, you're gonna be on foot, like it or not.
If you limit ammo to 15 lbs (remember you've got weapons, food & camping gear to carry) here's what you can pack:
15 lbs of .308......................225 rds
" .223......................390 rds
" 12 g.....................123 rds
15 lbs of .22 LR....................1,850 rds!!
Newman you and I think alike a mountain bike, back pack and MRE in the barn and my wife ask me why I keep that junk for the last 15 years I tell her you never know when this stuff will come in handy its better than gold O0
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