Dershowitz keeps defending Spitzer

[RationalThought110]

The "brilliant" Dershowitz went on CNN a couple nights ago and was insisting it was all a conspiracy.

[Ultra Requete]

The Derhowitz is atention whore, he braged that he woud be able to defend and aquit Shitler, I wish he woud do something for righteus Jews like Polard or Chaim becouse he's d... good lawyer nethertheless.

[RationalThought110]

The Derhowitz is atention whore, he braged that he woud be able to defend and aquit Shitler, I wish he woud do something for righteus Jews like Polard or Chaim becouse he's d... good lawyer nethertheless.

So you think Dershowitz is brilliant, despite the fact that he thinks Spitzer is not guilty?

I think there can be right or wrong answers to law situations and in this case, the position of Dershowitz is clearly wrong.  Dershowitz's credibility among other lawyers should be damaged.  But they probably all love him.

[Ultra Requete]

The Derhowitz is atention whore, he braged that he woud be able to defend and aquit Shitler, I wish he woud do something for righteus Jews like Polard or Chaim becouse he's d... good lawyer nethertheless.

So you think Dershowitz is brilliant, despite the fact that he thinks Spitzer is not guilty?

I think there can be right or wrong answers to law situations and in this case, the position of Dershowitz is clearly wrong.  Dershowitz's credibility among other lawyers should be damaged.  But they probably all love him.

Being intelectualy briliant and good profesioanal in law don't equate with being moraly right... or wrong; and OJ Simpson case proved that law and justice are not always the same in US courts. Chaim needs a briliant lawyer who'll work not for money but for fame becouse the jury in Israel will be biased against him.

[MasterWolf1]

Dershowitz is a slimebag, he always was

[jdl4ever]

Dershowitz is a piece of Animal feces. 

[Dan]

I saw him on Glenn Beck's show a few weeks ago... he appeared to be saying something that the IDF should take tougher measures against the Arab terrorist or civilians who attack the Jewish people there. I was surprised he said that because I thought of him as a spineless vermin.

[MassuhDGoodName]

Re:  Dershowitz..."I was surprised he said that because I thought of him as a spineless vermin..."

He's probably just now awakening to "which side of his bread gets the butter".

I will only believe Dershowitz when he publicly states "Rabbi Meir Kahane was RIGHT!"

Dershowitz went to great lengths in public debate with Rabbi Kahane to discredit him as someone who was prejudiced against Arab Terrorists, and denounced Kahane for not assuming that each and every Arab within and without Israel was to be considered a trusted friend unless a court of law could prove otherwise.

It is only in the last decade, when Dershowitz's leftist allies suddenly embraced the "Death to Zionism" platform, that he found himself backed into the corner and denounced by his former friends; exactly as he once did to Rabbi Kahane.

Well...well...well...now "the shoe's on the other foot".

What is undeniable about Dershowitz, as clearly stated with admiration by Rabbi Kahane, is that he has been gifted with a truly brilliant mind.

He'd better 'wake up and smell the coffee' before he ends up as a lampshade in Obama's living room.

[DownwithIslam]

Dershowitz is a superkike.

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

Dershowitz has also called for legalizing prostitution, in defense of his pal spitzer.  It just shows what a great Jewish mind will degenerate into without proper focus onto Torah and channeling through Torah values like we've been designed for.  Dershowitz has shown time and time again exactly what it means to be a liberalist:  To have a TWISTED morality.

[MassuhDGoodName]

Re:  "...So you think Dershowitz is brilliant, despite the fact that he thinks Spitzer is not guilty?..."

Spitzer is by law innocent until proven guilty.

If you are going to hire an attorney to defend you in court, are you going to hire one who goes around announcing that he thinks you're guilty?   

[Ulli]

Conspiracy?

Of whom?

Perhaps of the music-industry to place the song of the whore in the charts 

[Lubab]

I have to admit that Dershowitz has a point here. Prostitution is not a good thing, but it does not violate the Noahide laws for gentiles and is not as big of a sin as it has been made out to be. The severe sin it has been made out to be is an import from Christianity.

In Judaism we know that Moshiach was born from the union of Yehuda (a Noahide) and a prostitute (Tamar).

Now I know someone will say: isn't that adultery (violates Noahide laws) and the answer is no.

Adultery according to the Noahide laws is when a man has sex with a married woman.

[Ulli]

I have to admit that Dershowitz has a point here. Prostitution is not a good thing, but it does not violate the Noahide laws for gentiles and is not as big of a sin as it has been made out to be. The severe sin it has been made out to be is an import from Christianity.

In Judaism we know that Moshiach was born from the union of Yehuda (a Noahide) and a prostitute (Tamar).

Now I know someone will say: isn't that adultery (violates Noahide laws) and the answer is no.

Adultery according to the Noahide laws is when a man has sex with a married woman.

I don't know. Spitzer  is married. He broke the marriage. So it is in my eyes clearly adultery. 

[Lubab]

I have to admit that Dershowitz has a point here. Prostitution is not a good thing, but it does not violate the Noahide laws for gentiles and is not as big of a sin as it has been made out to be. The severe sin it has been made out to be is an import from Christianity.

In Judaism we know that Moshiach was born from the union of Yehuda (a Noahide) and a prostitute (Tamar).

Now I know someone will say: isn't that adultery (violates Noahide laws) and the answer is no.

Adultery according to the Noahide laws is when a man has sex with a married woman.

I don't know. Spitzer  is married. He broke the marriage. So it is in my eyes clearly adultery. 

Luckily these thing are not decided by what it is in YOUR eyes or MY eyes. Luckily G-d gave us a book that tells us the laws.

I do sympathize with what you are saying. It is a betrayal of his wife because this behavior is not accepted in this soceity. But I'm just saying it's not the capital crime everyone makes it out to be.

[Ehud]

Dershowitz is currently visiting Israel in an attempt to convince Israeli lawmakers that there should be a new way of thinking about the civilian/terrorist dichotomy.  He is claiming that the UN's definitions of civilian and terrorist are antiquated and that the UN should adopt new guidelines distinguishing terrorists from civilians that takes into account the modern reality of so called "civilians" who give up their homes to terrorists or who transport or aid terrorists.  He is adopting a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being a newborn baby and 10 being a terrorist launching a Katyusha rocket.  If this argument is successful and convinces the UN, this will be a great help to Israel because the UN will not recognize those who aid terrorists as civilians, and this could have a positive effect on people of the world's perception of the difference between terrorists and TRUE civilians.  This is one of the biggest areas of reform that the UN has needed, and after Dershowitz set out on this mission I don't think he's that much of a scumbag anymore.  I don't see anyone else out there doing this.  If he's willing to go out there and put his reputation on the line for the betterment of Israel, I think he should be at least commended for this. 

[Ulli]

I have to admit that Dershowitz has a point here. Prostitution is not a good thing, but it does not violate the Noahide laws for gentiles and is not as big of a sin as it has been made out to be. The severe sin it has been made out to be is an import from Christianity.

In Judaism we know that Moshiach was born from the union of Yehuda (a Noahide) and a prostitute (Tamar).

Now I know someone will say: isn't that adultery (violates Noahide laws) and the answer is no.

Adultery according to the Noahide laws is when a man has sex with a married woman.

I don't know. Spitzer  is married. He broke the marriage. So it is in my eyes clearly adultery. 

Luckily these thing are not decided by what it is in YOUR eyes or MY eyes. Luckily G-d gave us a book that tells us the laws.

I do sympathize with what you are saying. It is a betrayal of his wife because this behavior is not accepted in this soceity. But I'm just saying it's not the capital crime everyone makes it out to be.

Ok 

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

I have to admit that Dershowitz has a point here. Prostitution is not a good thing, but it does not violate the Noahide laws for gentiles and is not as big of a sin as it has been made out to be. The severe sin it has been made out to be is an import from Christianity.

In Judaism we know that Moshiach was born from the union of Yehuda (a Noahide) and a prostitute (Tamar).

Now I know someone will say: isn't that adultery (violates Noahide laws) and the answer is no.

Adultery according to the Noahide laws is when a man has sex with a married woman.

There is more to the Noachide laws than the simple reading.

[Lubab]

I have to admit that Dershowitz has a point here. Prostitution is not a good thing, but it does not violate the Noahide laws for gentiles and is not as big of a sin as it has been made out to be. The severe sin it has been made out to be is an import from Christianity.

In Judaism we know that Moshiach was born from the union of Yehuda (a Noahide) and a prostitute (Tamar).

Now I know someone will say: isn't that adultery (violates Noahide laws) and the answer is no.

Adultery according to the Noahide laws is when a man has sex with a married woman.

There is more to the Noachide laws than the simple reading.

Explain.

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

I have to admit that Dershowitz has a point here. Prostitution is not a good thing, but it does not violate the Noahide laws for gentiles and is not as big of a sin as it has been made out to be. The severe sin it has been made out to be is an import from Christianity.

In Judaism we know that Moshiach was born from the union of Yehuda (a Noahide) and a prostitute (Tamar).

Now I know someone will say: isn't that adultery (violates Noahide laws) and the answer is no.

Adultery according to the Noahide laws is when a man has sex with a married woman.

There is more to the Noachide laws than the simple reading.

Explain.

Come on, you're Lubavitch.  I've witnessed in person a lubavitch guy explain to a goy about the noachide laws but saying that there is much more to them than just the basics as listed.  The chabad.org site says similar.

Just like our commandments don't make sense as a simple list.  There is always explanation.

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

Plus spitzer is a Jew, isn't he?

[Lubab]

Plus spitzer is a Jew, isn't he?

Is he? I don't know if he is a Jew can anyone answer that?

Um...I know I am Lubavitch but I am afraid that even Lubavtichers sometimes misunderstand the Noahide laws. Most have not studied them in depth. There are a few Lubavithcers who do study them in depth and those are the few who emphasize that while there is explanation there are still only 7 laws and 6 of them are negative commandments. At the end of the day they don't need to be like Jews, they just need to focus on NOT breaking those very specific 7 laws. They can do more if they want to be extra pious, but people often confuse things that are done for piety and assume them to be obligations and this is a mistake that could lead to other problems.

P.S. Even if Spitzer was a Jew this would not be considered adultery and would not be a capital offense. The punishment for going to a prostitute for Jews is lashes.

[Eliezer Ben Avraham]

why is dershowitz even talking? he has nothing of value to add to the situation

[Ultra Requete]

I have to admit that Dershowitz has a point here. Prostitution is not a good thing, but it does not violate the Noahide laws for gentiles and is not as big of a sin as it has been made out to be. The severe sin it has been made out to be is an import from Christianity.

In Judaism we know that Moshiach was born from the union of Yehuda (a Noahide) and a prostitute (Tamar).

Now I know someone will say: isn't that adultery (violates Noahide laws) and the answer is no.

Adultery according to the Noahide laws is when a man has sex with a married woman.

I don't know. Spitzer  is married. He broke the marriage. So it is in my eyes clearly adultery. 

Luckily these thing are not decided by what it is in YOUR eyes or MY eyes. Luckily G-d gave us a book that tells us the laws.

I do sympathize with what you are saying. It is a betrayal of his wife because this behavior is not accepted in this soceity. But I'm just saying it's not the capital crime everyone makes it out to be.

Ok 

OK, it's not as great sin as adultery in Christianity either plus even Paul didn't wanted the gentile Christians to keep the Torah but only noahide laws but later the Roman "church" replaced the Jews as new Israel and took some but not all of Torah comandments as their own. You cannot be part Jewish you have to keep all 613 commandments after circumisation or perish. We christians have other convenant and shud not try to live acording to Mosaic one especialy if we're not Jewish. Once I felt guilty after breaking some church comandments taken from OT now thanks to JTF I'm true free man from the yoke of law.   

[spiritus_persona]

Sounds like Dershowitz is another Johnny Cochrane.  If the **** don't fit, you must acquit!