Tzvi Ben Roshel Exposed!!!! Honorable Winged Member?

[DownwithIslam]

I have found a thread in which the anti semite Tzvi Ben Roshel who is notorious for defending the splinter kennel biscuit feeders while he failed to defend Chaim in the most recent splinter attacks. An individual who was worried about some porn being posted in the kennel club but didn't give a damn that jtf members pictures and addresses were being posted on nazi sites. This same individual is currently on the splinter group with his bros who allowed the beast turd greco to commit her informing. In the link I will post, you will see Roshel bashing the wonderful Lubavitcher Chassid Lubab for his legitimate beliefs. Who is Roshel to question the authority of Lubavitcher Rabbanim when he is less than an ant compared to them. Whoever made this animal an "Honorable winged Member" needs to be examined. What the hell is honorable about him. He doesn't even support jtf nor are his positions kahanist. He is a splinter member through and through. Again, in this thread he shows his contempt for Lubavitch but yet when someone dares whisper a bad word about ovadia, he goes ape. Lets not forget that Lubab is a rabbi in his own right and moderators, please leave this post up.

http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php?topic=9635.msg99337#msg99337

[DownwithIslam]

Look at the animal tzvi Ben Roshel behave in this post too. Please moderators, let Chaim comment on this post.
http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php?topic=16845.0

[Haim_Ben_Shimon_3JFB]

what did he say???

[DownwithIslam]

Many evil things. I posted links and described the situation above. He is a longtime lurker here.

[Lubab]

There's really no news here. Tzvi and I are on good terms so don't drag me into this. It's unfortunate that he supports that forum but he has free choice and he's not harming our movement in anyway so I think we should let this go.

[Chaim Ben Pesach]

                                                                                                               בס''ד

I am disappointed that Tzvi was silent when Guzofsky's forum allowed Tina Greco to openly say that she would post pictures of JTF members on StørmFrønt, the world's largest Nazi web site. And Tzvi was silent when Tina Greco defended StørmFrønt on Guzofsky's forum - she claimed that StørmFrønt is not a Nazi web site. And Tzvi was silent when Tina Greco openly blackmailed both me and JTF from Guzofsky's forum. Guzofsky and his forum allowed Tina Greco to commit these Nazi crimes for several days. But when Yacov reprinted my response to Greco's blackmail, the Guzofskyites removed my response in 30 seconds.
 
Tzvi, I hope you will think about this. When Guzofsky's forum deliberately shielded a Nazi for several days just to get at JTF, this was the ugliest form of Sinat Chinam (needless hatred). This was the type of behavior that Korach engaged in against Moshe Rabeinu in this week's parasha.

As far as Shas is concerned, many Israeli Jews absolutely hate this political movement. And I am not referring to secular leftists. Many rightwing Jews detest Shas for supporting the Oslo agreements that led to the murder of 1800 innocent men, women and children in Israel. Shas supported inviting Yasser Arafat and 80,000 PLO-Fatah Muslim terrorists into the Land of Israel. But the Shas Interior Minister Eli Suisa expelled me from Israel, and then rejected my appeal from New York to make aliyah. Suisa's Interior Ministry responded to my appeal by saying that I was not allowed to even visit Israel. But HaRav Ovadia Yosef ordered Shas to vote to invite in Arafat and 80,000 Muslim mass murderers. Today Shas is part of the evil traitor government of Ehud Smolmert that has promised to surrender even Jerusalem to the Muslim terrorists.

Should DWI curse HaRav Ovadia? No. But anyone who does not criticize Shas is supporting national suicide for Israel.

[Ulli]

 

Perhaps he was too silent, but he is no bad member. He puts  different weights on some arguments about some issues. But he would never inform or put the life of any members here in danger.

He tries everything to be a good Jew.

[Dr. Dan]

Tzvi has his goals as we all know...it is with good intentions spreading the good word to other Jews.

I might not agree with everything he says, but he, otherwise, tries to do good.

DWI, while you might be monitoring what so and so does and so and so is saying and what so and so might be doing, you have to be careful how you curse and criticize certain people publically.  Better to talk to Chaim directly in private or someone who can talk to Chaim directly and privately and resolve in a non-public to avoid humiliating a decent person, even if he is misguided on things that JTF disagrees with.  You are better off presenting an arguement on a post someone makes piece by piece rather than attempt to humiliate him like the way you did here.

I have kept silent about the whole splinter forum thing that started wtih JDL4EVER and Odkahanaichai and kahanaloyalist leaving here.  What's done is done.  But it really was pointless for you to go on that forum and flame everyone for talking badly about Chaim.  What they are doing is wrong...and the truth is...they are very delusional to think that Chaim has done nothing and Guz and Yekuteil are doing something...but really, DWI, WHO CARES?!!?!?!?!?  Let them be delusional!  We have our movement which is growing at a decent pace. Let them do their thing..let the earth swallow them up, like it did to Korah.

But what did this lead to?  It pissed Chaim off more, it lead to sick perverted people (Tina Greco) leaving this forum only to give publicity and attention to the other one and used, in a way like Hamas uses the Jewish property of Gush Katif to shoot missles into Sderot.

But is done is done.  The other splinter forum has been exposed for the garbage that it is...Thank you for that.

But we gave too much attention to a dying and struggling forum...just as we gave too much exposure for Mel Gibson's 100 million dollar blockbuster that would have otherwise passed by forgotten.

[DownwithIslam]

I won't be silent simply because of the hypocrisy that tzvi ben roshel demonstrates. Its fine to slaughter Lubavitchers and all but when somone makes fun of his rabbi, all of a sudden I am attacking judaism. He is the real enemy of judaism. The fact that he cared about some porno being posted by someone on the splinter and he didnt give a damn that jtf members lives were endangered tells it all about this "big tzaddik." And I totally disagree about not attacking Ovadia. The fact that he learned lots of torah means nothing here cause it seems to have left him as soon as it went in. If some other person was enabling every retreat known to man, would we hold back. Even the kike avigdor lieberman hasn't enabled Israeli suicide to the point that ovadia has.

[RationalThought110]

Tzvi has his goals as we all know...it is with good intentions spreading the good word to other Jews.

I might not agree with everything he says, but he, otherwise, tries to do good.

DWI, while you might be monitoring what so and so does and so and so is saying and what so and so might be doing, you have to be careful how you curse and criticize certain people publically.  Better to talk to Chaim directly in private or someone who can talk to Chaim directly and privately and resolve in a non-public to avoid humiliating a decent person, even if he is misguided on things that JTF disagrees with.  You are better off presenting an arguement on a post someone makes piece by piece rather than attempt to humiliate him like the way you did here.

I have kept silent about the whole splinter forum thing that started wtih JDL4EVER and Odkahanaichai and kahanaloyalist leaving here.  What's done is done.  But it really was pointless for you to go on that forum and flame everyone for talking badly about Chaim.  What they are doing is wrong...and the truth is...they are very delusional to think that Chaim has done nothing and Guz and Yekuteil are doing something...but really, DWI, WHO CARES?!!?!?!?!?  Let them be delusional!  We have our movement which is growing at a decent pace. Let them do their thing..let the earth swallow them up, like it did to Korah.

But what did this lead to?  It pissed Chaim off more, it lead to sick perverted people (Tina Greco) leaving this forum only to give publicity and attention to the other one and used, in a way like Hamas uses the Jewish property of Gush Katif to shoot missles into Sderot.

But is done is done.  The other splinter forum has been exposed for the garbage that it is...Thank you for that.

But we gave too much attention to a dying and struggling forum...just as we gave too much exposure for Mel Gibson's 100 million dollar blockbuster that would have otherwise passed by forgotten.

Well-stated. 

[DownwithIslam]

There's really no news here. Tzvi and I are on good terms so don't drag me into this. It's unfortunate that he supports that forum but he has free choice and he's not harming our movement in anyway so I think we should let this go.

Lubab, you are a very forgiving man if you are on good terms with him. That animal hates lubavitch so I have a feeling its a one way relationship. I am sure you are on good terms with him, but I am pretty sure he hates your guts.

[Dr. Dan]

I won't be silent simply because of the hypocrisy that tzvi ben roshel demonstrates. Its fine to slaughter Lubavitchers and all but when somone makes fun of his rabbi, all of a sudden I am attacking judaism. He is the real enemy of judaism. The fact that he cared about some porno being posted by someone on the splinter and he didnt give a damn that jtf members lives were endangered tells it all about this "big tzaddik." And I totally disagree about not attacking Ovadia. The fact that he learned lots of torah means nothing here cause it seems to have left him as soon as it went in. If some other person was enabling every retreat known to man, would we hold back. Even the kike avigdor lieberman hasn't enabled Israeli suicide to the point that ovadia has.

WHere did Tzvi allow the discussion of slaughtering Lubavitchers, Gd forbid?  Come on DWI...Tzvi wouldn't say such things. If he were to ever support such an evil plan like that, then he might as well come and find me and shoot me, Gd forbid.

 And as far as Rabbi Ovadia Yosef...very few people agree with how he went about things in Israel and blackmailing the govt to give to his programs as long as he stayed in the govt and vote for the retreats of Judea and Samaria.  Rabbi Ovadia Yosef might be a Torah scholar, but forgets about the importance of the physical life of Israelis with these surrenders.  But he shouldn't be cursed...he should be repremanded for the mistakes he makes...and he's still a rabbi...and this is how Tzvi feels too.  YOu are allowed to disagree wtih what Rabbis do..but to curse them is wrong...Even Chaim says so.

Rabbi Yosef is not an enemy to Judaism...Maybe, at worst, he is an enemy of every decent non Religious Israeli.  DWI, you need to calm down your antics...it doesn't help anything..it causes more uneeded wars. 

Tzvi, in my opinion, doesn't do everythign correctly either. He has rubbed me the wrong way so much in the past that I wanted to leave JTF because of it.  But you know what?  So what?  WE disagree wtih each other on certain issues.  He might think I might not be a part of the world to come because I don't practice shomer shabbat like he woudl hope for every Jew. I don't subscribe to that point of view..oh well...And you, DWI, tone it down.  Tzvi keeping silent doesn't mean he was actually keeping silent...The porno came from Tina and her ilk.  The splinter forum is retarded..anyone..even former-JTFers who join it has a substitution for this group is a retard.  I mean, technically, if you want to subscribe to the kahanist point of view, you don't have to be part of either.  ANd even if one disagrees with Chaim or feels that he hasn't done anything (and he has), they can respectfully disagree wtih him, like I do sometimes...go on the askJTF programs and ask him challenging questions. SO my point is, the splinter forum is a waste of time and it exists not because of the cause, but because of ego.  This forum and this movement is where it's at.

I strongly recommend for every JTFer and anyone who wants to subscribe to a realy true right wing point of view, to hang out here and not waste their time over there.

[DownwithIslam]

I won't be silent simply because of the hypocrisy that tzvi ben roshel demonstrates. Its fine to slaughter Lubavitchers and all but when somone makes fun of his rabbi, all of a sudden I am attacking judaism. He is the real enemy of judaism. The fact that he cared about some porno being posted by someone on the splinter and he didnt give a damn that jtf members lives were endangered tells it all about this "big tzaddik." And I totally disagree about not attacking Ovadia. The fact that he learned lots of torah means nothing here cause it seems to have left him as soon as it went in. If some other person was enabling every retreat known to man, would we hold back. Even the kike avigdor lieberman hasn't enabled Israeli suicide to the point that ovadia has.

WHere did Tzvi allow the discussion of slaughtering Lubavitchers, Gd forbid?  Come on DWI...Tzvi wouldn't say such things. If he were to ever support such an evil plan like that, then he might as well come and find me and shoot me, Gd forbid.

 And as far as Rabbi Ovadia Yosef...very few people agree with how he went about things in Israel and blackmailing the govt to give to his programs as long as he stayed in the govt and vote for the retreats of Judea and Samaria.  Rabbi Ovadia Yosef might be a Torah scholar, but forgets about the importance of the physical life of Israelis with these surrenders.  But he shouldn't be cursed...he should be repremanded for the mistakes he makes...and he's still a rabbi...and this is how Tzvi feels too.  YOu are allowed to disagree wtih what Rabbis do..but to curse them is wrong...Even Chaim says so.

Rabbi Yosef is not an enemy to Judaism...Maybe, at worst, he is an enemy of every decent non Religious Israeli.  DWI, you need to calm down your antics...it doesn't help anything..it causes more uneeded wars. 

Tzvi, in my opinion, doesn't do everythign correctly either. He has rubbed me the wrong way so much in the past that I wanted to leave JTF because of it.  But you know what?  So what?  WE disagree wtih each other on certain issues.  He might think I might not be a part of the world to come because I don't practice shomer shabbat like he woudl hope for every Jew. I don't subscribe to that point of view..oh well...And you, DWI, tone it down.  Tzvi keeping silent doesn't mean he was actually keeping silent...The porno came from Tina and her ilk.  The splinter forum is retarded..anyone..even former-JTFers who join it has a substitution for this group is a retard.  I mean, technically, if you want to subscribe to the kahanist point of view, you don't have to be part of either.  ANd even if one disagrees with Chaim or feels that he hasn't done anything (and he has), they can respectfully disagree wtih him, like I do sometimes...go on the askJTF programs and ask him challenging questions. SO my point is, the splinter forum is a waste of time and it exists not because of the cause, but because of ego.  This forum and this movement is where it's at.

I strongly recommend for every JTFer and anyone who wants to subscribe to a realy true right wing point of view, to hang out here and not waste their time over there.

Dan we disagree on this and thats ok. As much as I like you, I will never tone it dows when it comes to Tzvi Ben Roshel.

[q_q_]

DWI one of the threads you posted, Tzvi criticised Lubab.. But
The beliefs of Meshachist Lubavitchers are considered by almost all other orthodox Jews to be outside the realm of Judaism.  Meshachist Lubavitchers would probably say their rabbi never died.  Under those circumstances, sending a letter to a dead person or their dead rabbi's grave, which is what Lubab suggested, is problematic. The person that posted for help/advice in that thread , did not come from a religious background and would not have known about the issue within Lubavitch, that some Lubavitch are Meshachist, and Lubab is.  Lubab is infact part of an even more radical branch of Lubavitch, more than the Meshocists, they would use a kabbalistic metaphorical expression that a Lubavitcher Rebbe is G-d clothed in a body.
 
It is very controversial..   

I think he should keep those views to himself, and to -religious- -knowledgeable- Jews that are aware of the issues, and just ask him personally for elaboration .   It is dangerous to allow ignorant Jews to buy into it..

Lubab has largely kept it to himself unless asked. And fortunately there were Jews in that thread who picked him up on it.

You would have to quote specifically what Tzvi said that is the problem..

Saying Lubavitch have a huge issue.  That is fine. They do.  There is argument over the extent of it.  One (unreliable dishonest manipulative) person I chatted to once, said he witnessed that the Lubavitcher Rebbe himself , was not just silent, but encouraged people to call him Mashiach, in 770.   I have seen a website with videos showing the extent of the Meshachist problem, I can't find the link right now.

The Lubavitch rabbis , are either not Meshachist, or are hiding it.   And so it really doesn't affect anybody else.  I don't really criticise Lubavitch..

Lubab is unusual in that he is a Meshachist, or even more than that, a Boreinu type. And he admits it.

But Tzvi was right to criticise that post of Lulab's, and fine to argue with him over theological points.

If Tzvi said Lubavitch have a huge issue, that's possibly true. They certainly have a huge issue of people thinking they have a huge issue!

If Tzvi said Lubavitch ARE a huge issue, then given the fact that he can't even spell "huge"..  I wouldn't take any one of his posts too seriously.  And even if when asked, it turns out that he does mean that. Then it could be that he doesn't know.
But he does know a lot more about Judaism than gentiles here, and a lot more than many secular Jews here.   Gentiles commenting on something involving Lubavitch are way out of their depth. They are almost certainly not familiar with them, or the issues surrounding their place in the orthodox Jewish world.
note- I do use askmoses quite a lot(there are one or two great scholars) and some of my favourite rabbis are Lubavitch - from that site...  I like the Lubavitchers on askmoses!


You should quote exactly what Tzvi said.. Because that was a long thread.

Regarding Tzvi's silence about Tina Greco posting the picture on StørmFrønt.

Maybe point to the thread and let him defend himself.
I remember  a thread where he made some mad prayer for Jews posting pornography anywhere to be destroyed.  Which was really a moral equivalence he was doing..
Not that he would know what that means.  So I think you are being too harsh on him..

And the porno condemnation may have consumed used his thoughts so much in that thread he forgot to condemn Tina Greco for the StørmFrønt issue. or he thought the latter was obvious .  If he was silent when asked, then that's a big deal.  I don't see evidence of that

I haven't seen him post for a while.. I know he had some exams.  Wait for him to respond to defend himself. He probably has not noticed this thread.

[DownwithIslam]

DWI one of the threads you posted, tzvi criticised lulab.. But
The beliefs of moshichist lubavitchers are considered by almost all other orthodox jews to be outside the realm of judaism.  Moshichist lubavitchers would probably say their rabbi never died.  Under those circumstances, sending a latter to a or their dead rabbi's grave, which is what lulab suggested , is problematic.  
The person that posted for help/advice in that thread , did not come from a religious background and would not have known about the issue within lubavitch, that some lubavitch are moshichist, and lulab is.  Lulab is infact part of an even more radical branch of lubavitch, more than the moshichists, they would use a kabbalistic metaphorical expression that a lubavitcher rebbe is G-d clothed in a body.
 
It is very controversial..    

I think he should keep those views to himself, and to -religious- -knowledgeable- jews that are aware of the issues, and just ask him personally for elaboration .   It is dangerous to allow ignorant jews to buy into it..

Lulab has largely kept it to himself unless asked. And fortunately there were jews in that thread who picked him up on it.

You would have to quote speifically what tzvi said that is the problem..

Saying lubavitch have a huge issue.  That is fine. They do.  There is argument over the extent of it.  One (unreliable dishonest manipulative) person I chatted to once, said he witnessed that the lubavitcher rebbe himself , was not just silent, but encouraged people to call him moshiach, in 770.   I have seen a website with videos showing the extent of teh moshichist problem, I can't find the link right now.

The lubavitch rabbis , are either not moshichist, or are hiding it.   And so it really doesn't affect anybody else.  I don't really criticise lubavitch..

Lulab is unusual in that he is a moshichist, or even more than that, a Boreinu type. And he admits it.

But  Tzvi was right to criticise that post of Lulab's , and fine to argue with him over theological points.

If Tzvi said Lubavitch have a huge issue, that's possibly true. They certainly have a huge issue of people thinking they have a huge issue!

If Tzvi said Lubavitch ARE a huge issue, then given the fact that he can't even spell "huge"..  I wouldn't take any one of his posts too seriously.  And even if when asked, it turns out that he does mean that. Then it could be that he doesn't know.
But he does know alot more about judaism than gentiles here, and alot more than many secular jews here.   Gentiles commenting on something involving lubavitch are way out of their depth. They are almost certainly not familiar with them, or the issues surrounding their place in the orthodox jewish world.
note- I do use askmoses quite alot(there are one or two great scholars) and some of my favourite rabbis are lubavitch - from that site...  I like the lubavitchers on askmoses!


You should quote exactly what Tzvi said.. Because that was a long thread.

Regarding Tzvi's silence about tina greco posting the picture on StørmFrønt.

Maybe point to the thread and let him defend himself.
I remember  a thread where he made some mad prayer for jews posting pornography anywhere to be destroyed.  Which was really a moral equivalence he was doing..
Not that he would know what that means.  So I think you are being too harsh on him..

And the porno condemnation may have consumed used his thoughts so much in that thread he forgot to condemn tina greco for the StørmFrønt issue. or he thought the latter was obvious .  If he was silent when asked, then that's a big deal.  I don't see evidence of that

I haven't seen him post for a while.. I know he had some exams.  Wait for him to respond to defend himself. He probably has not noticed this thread.

You see, the truth is that he knows next to nothing about judaism. He comes on here quoting from various torah websites and he makes himself out to be a torah scholar. He is merely plagiarizing ideas that he picked up in the weeks shiur he goes to. If you opened up a sefer for him, it would be as foreign to him as mein kampf is to me. Of course he knows a little more torah than the righteous gentiles but they seem to be following that very torah more than he is.

[DownwithIslam]

And the mashichiast lubavitchers are no problem at all. What really is harming the jewish people ar eindividuals like roshel and his shas masters. They are the ones enabling the slaughter of jews. Lubavitchers are the one preventing the slaghtering, at least trying to so they are no problem. An individual like roshel is a much greater threat than any lubavitcher. The fact that Lubab believes his rebbe is moshiach is not your concern. He has every right to do so.

[q_q_]

<snip>
You see, the truth is that he knows next to nothing about judaism. He comes on here quoting from various torah websites and he makes himself out to be a torah scholar. He is merely plagiarizing ideas that he picked up in the weeks shiur he goes to. If you opened up a sefer for him, it would be as foreign to him as mein kampf is to me. Of course he knows a little more torah than the righteous gentiles but they seem to be following that very torah more than he is.

but you weren't condemning him for plagiarism or ignorance

[DownwithIslam]

Besides, Tzvi worships his own rabbis who aren't even ants compared to the Lubavitcher Rebbe. I can't believe how Lubabs position and opinions are being distorted. So what if he believes his Rebbe is moshiach? At least he uses the wonderful advice of his Rebbe to save Jews. Look at what the followers of Ovadia are doing. Only a blind person wouldn't see the difference.

[DownwithIslam]

<snip>
You see, the truth is that he knows next to nothing about judaism. He comes on here quoting from various torah websites and he makes himself out to be a torah scholar. He is merely plagiarizing ideas that he picked up in the weeks shiur he goes to. If you opened up a sefer for him, it would be as foreign to him as mein kampf is to me. Of course he knows a little more torah than the righteous gentiles but they seem to be following that very torah more than he is.

but you weren't condemning him for plagiarism or ignorance

I wasn't intially as that is not my major problem with him. The other things I have mentioner are far greater transgressions on his part.

[q_q_]

And the mashichiast lubavitchers are no problem at all. What really is harming the jewish people ar eindividuals like roshel and his shas masters. They are the ones enabling the slaughter of jews. Lubavitchers are the one preventing the slaghtering, at least trying to so they are no problem. An individual like roshel is a much greater threat than any lubavitcher. The fact that Lubab believes his rebbe is moshiach is not your concern. He has every right to do so.

if Lulab suggests to a non knowledgeable poster asking for help, that they send a letter to the L Rebbe's grave, then that is an issue, and his beliefs are relevant -to that- because he prob does believe the rebbe hasn't died. It was a one off. But you posted that thread .

Most Charedim are anti zionist, so if your target is charedim, then don't just condemn tzvi for it.

Charedim that are pro fighting arabs are fine. I don't know what proportion are.  I think Tzvi is. And lubavitch are.

How is Tzvi a danger there?

Lubavitch are non zionist, and pro fighting arabs.  So is Tzvi.

I don't see how tzvi's non zionism is dangerous, or rather, is more dangerous than lubavitch non zionism.





 
 

[q_q_]

Tzvi and his torahanytime friends , who post here, actually managed to get chaim an OK to post torah shiurim on torahanytime..

I guess that fell through, maybe chaim didn't go ahead with it.   

But that is really quite a big thing..

note- chaim could be great at it, his tenach knowledge is fantastic..  Given a verse out of nowhere,  he is often able to discuss the whole context in a really clear way.

you can't really say tzvi is even -that- non zionist if he wants a kahanist like chaim to post torah shiurim on his favourite torah website

[DownwithIslam]

And the mashichiast lubavitchers are no problem at all. What really is harming the jewish people ar eindividuals like roshel and his shas masters. They are the ones enabling the slaughter of jews. Lubavitchers are the one preventing the slaghtering, at least trying to so they are no problem. An individual like roshel is a much greater threat than any lubavitcher. The fact that Lubab believes his rebbe is moshiach is not your concern. He has every right to do so.

if Lulab suggests to a non knowledgeable poster asking for help, that they send a letter to the L Rebbe's grave, then that is an issue, and his beliefs are relevant -to that- because he prob does believe the rebbe hasn't died. It was a one off. But you posted that thread .

Most Charedim are anti zionist, so if your target is charedim, then don't just condemn tzvi for it.

Charedim that are pro fighting arabs are fine. I don't know what proportion are.  I think Tzvi is. And lubavitch are.

How tzvi a a danger there?

Lubavitch are non zionist, and pro fighting arabs.  So is Tzvi.

I don't see how tzvi's non zionism is dangerous, or rather, is more dangerous than lubavitch non zionism.





 
 

Tzvi supports land surrenders and is against fighting arabs. If he was he would not be getting aroused every time ovadia is mentioned. I dont care if he comes here and now says he is against fighting arabs. It will be a lie unless he donounces ovadia yosef and shas as they are against those things. Lets make sure to keep him factually honest. And their is nothing possibly dangerous about lubabs moshichaist postition. It can harm nobody. Tzvi Ben roshels positions have offended righteous gentiles like Chaimfan(who he personally attacked with a disgusting hateful smear) and his positions are the same ones that are destroying Israel(shas positions). So lets keep everything in perspective.

[DownwithIslam]

Tzvi and his torahanytime friends , who post here, actually managed to get chaim an OK to post torah shiurim on torahanytime..

I guess that fell through, maybe chaim didn't go ahead with it.   

But that is really quite a big thing..

note- chaim could be great at it, his tenach knowledge is fantastic..  Given a verse out of nowhere,  he is often able to discuss the whole context in a really clear way.

you can't really say tzvi is even -that- non zionist if he wants a kahanist like chaim to post torah shiurim on his favourite torah website

Tzvi did not do that. That was the other torahantime guys. I have no problems with them and they are good people. My problem is solely with the sone yisrael, tzvi ben roshel.

[RationalThought110]

You see, the truth is that he knows next to nothing about judaism. He comes on here quoting from various torah websites and he makes himself out to be a torah scholar. He is merely plagiarizing ideas that he picked up in the weeks shiur he goes to. If you opened up a sefer for him, it would be as foreign to him as mein kampf is to me. Of course he knows a little more torah than the righteous gentiles but they seem to be following that very torah more than he is.

Why shouldn't he be allowed to post about a Torah website?

Calm down.  Give Tzvi the chance to say something. 

[q_q_]

many sephardim support shas, even though politically they are against giving away land..   They obviously have some psychological issues!


Rabbi Bar Hayyim gave an interesting analysis of it, saying they just want to support their home team.  I think Chaim mentioned that there are many shas supporters on the JTF hebrew forum.

I guess it's like blacks vote for the black guy!  I'm not saying sephardim are the blacks of the jewish world..  But I think there is some kind of similar psychology there!

It is a problem, but it's not unique to Tzvi.