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McCain or Obama - your opinion?
« on: July 10, 2008, 07:36:33 PM »
Even though I don't favor the idea of Obama being elected president, I have a feeling that the American public will not tolerate another Republican administration. Do the members of the JTF forum have an opinion?

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Re: McCain or Obama - your opinion?
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2008, 07:51:18 PM »
  For my Serbia's concern NO ONE IS GOOD!!!!!
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Re: McCain or Obama - your opinion?
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2008, 07:51:58 PM »
I support McCain 100% even though I dont like him but he is the lesser of the evils

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Re: McCain or Obama - your opinion?
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2008, 08:42:39 PM »
Their both crap, but I'm voting lesser of the 2 evils.

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Re: McCain or Obama - your opinion?
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2008, 08:47:07 PM »
There is no great option, here but there is the realistic option, McCain will have my vote.  Obama is a friggen nightmare, disaster, and there may not be an America to recover when he is through
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Re: McCain or Obama - your opinion?
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2008, 08:52:43 PM »
There's only possible choice:

McCain is the freight train to HELL on a slower train.

Obama is the Death of the United States.

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Re: McCain or Obama - your opinion?
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2008, 08:59:38 PM »
We don't like either candidate.  But we are very definitely opposed to Barack Hussein Muhammed Obama.  Hence Jewsagainstobama.com and the blog http://jewagainstobama.wordpress.com

Having a black muslim President whom the media loves is a recipe for disaster. 

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Re: McCain or Obama - your opinion?
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2008, 09:39:54 PM »
We don't like either candidate.  But we are very definitely opposed to Barack Hussein Muhammed Obama.  Hence Jewsagainstobama.com and the blog http://jewagainstobama.wordpress.com

Having a black muslim President whom the media loves is a recipe for disaster. 


but it's not the black skin we hate...we woudl have liked Alan Keyes way back when...It's Obama's record and decietfulness and the people he surrounds himself with which make him evil.
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Re: McCain or Obama - your opinion?
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2008, 10:14:05 PM »
neither... n.
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Re: McCain or Obama - your opinion?
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2008, 10:19:44 PM »
neither... n.

 Right. Neither. both EVIL
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Re: McCain or Obama - your opinion?
« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2008, 11:02:52 PM »
We at JTF have to support the Republican. They stick but you are basicly picking the cow dung that has a weaker smell
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Re: McCain or Obama - your opinion?
« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2008, 11:15:55 PM »
John Mccain is the lesser of the evils. I'd perfer Chaom but, Mccain is the only option!
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Re: McCain or Obama - your opinion?
« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2008, 11:38:23 PM »
Hate to use car analogies, but if Obama's gonna drive this country 90mph into a brick wall, McCain will do so at about 65mph. This country is declinig rapidly at, and while McCain and other presendential candidates afther him might offer different journey's, we'll still reach the same destination.

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Re: McCain or Obama - your opinion?
« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2008, 11:38:57 PM »
since neither of them will stop the oslo-death-to-israel-process nor the road map back to auschwitz... i will not support either of them... and i will never ever again vote for another prez. candidate until one does and does so openly... to speak out against these atrocities against israel and the jewish people...

before i was 35 i voted for bobby kennedy on a write-in candidacy bec. even a dead bobby was better than any of the bozos running and on the ballot... now that i'm over 35... i vote for myself... each and everytime... i would make a far better prez. than either of these two jerks... nik. out    
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Re: McCain or Obama - your opinion?
« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2008, 11:54:42 PM »
McCain all the way.

Just thinking about the alternative makes my gut wrench.

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« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2008, 12:16:06 AM »

   John McCain.     He's not the ideal candidate but what choice do we really have. 

   Barack Hussein Obama is the most liberal/ left wing Senator.    If Obama is elected President,   he will turn this country into a complete Socialist nation.  Obama is a Muslim.   That's a fact!    With the likelihood of one or more major terrorist attacks occurring against the U.S.  the next 4 years.   I don't even want to imagine the type of Supreme Court Judges Obama will seek to appoint.     In essence,   it's McCain or Bust!


   


     
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Re: McCain or Obama - your opinion?
« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2008, 12:16:55 AM »
and if our great pal condi is his veep... what will you say and think then...? no... both are a disaster for us waiting to happen... no thank you... nu-uh... no way... not for me... nik.
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« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2008, 12:19:03 AM »

    As horrific as Condi is,   regardless of who John McCain chooses as his running mate,    I plan on voting for him.    The alternative (   Barack Hussein Obama )  is unthinkable.
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Re: McCain or Obama - your opinion?
« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2008, 01:20:51 AM »
I prefer Obama to take the presidency, because I have young children, because I am disgusted by the Republican party electing a bonafide RINO, because America is terminally ill and Obama catastrophe may actually shake it up. And as much as I'd hate it him being elected - he is a deserving punishment for the land of morons.
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Re: McCain or Obama - your opinion?
« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2008, 01:32:30 AM »
I prefer Obama to take the presidency, because I have young children, because I am disgusted by the Republican party electing a bonafide RINO, because America is terminally ill and Obama catastrophe may actually shake it up. And as much as I'd hate it him being elected - he is a deserving punishment for the land of morons.

Even if the punishment hits you too?????

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Re: McCain or Obama - your opinion?
« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2008, 01:46:19 AM »
I prefer Obama to take the presidency, because I have young children, because I am disgusted by the Republican party electing a bonafide RINO, because America is terminally ill and Obama catastrophe may actually shake it up. And as much as I'd hate it him being elected - he is a deserving punishment for the land of morons.

Even if the punishment hits you too?????

Of course! Here is my point - America, Israel and the West are on a path with McCain and his ilk roughly to the same point to which Obama is going to take a shortcut - unless there is a miracle, and we are not supposed rely on them, of course. I am an able bodied man who is very capable of protecting my young family.
Fast Forward 20-30 years. As an infirmed and incapable of action geriatric, I would hate to see my daughters and/or my grandchildren to live in the hell that our generations is preparing for them. I think the blood letting for America and Israel is in order so that brain dead populace can get the most precious and most missed qualities - a common sense and a desire to leave to our children a better place than we inherited.
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« Reply #21 on: July 11, 2008, 01:50:38 AM »
First off, there is no 'guarantee' that if the situation deteriorates or gets worse everyone will do teshuvah and restore "common sense."    So that argument doesn't make much sense.

Secondly, regardless... .You desire a punishment?

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« Reply #22 on: July 11, 2008, 02:03:17 AM »
No guarantees, of course, but history tells us that it may be likely. I am not looking for a punishment, but if Hashem is preparing it for us, I would much rather take it than pass it on to my children. I desire a dramatic correction and ability to affect it - I think it is pretty clear. The status quo does not exist - West is committing suicide, we need an electro shock therapy, while there is still a healthy dose of right thinking people in our societies.
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Re: McCain or Obama - your opinion?
« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2008, 01:04:08 PM »
No guarantees, of course, but history tells us that it may be likely. I am not looking for a punishment, but if Hashem is preparing it for us, I would much rather take it than pass it on to my children. I desire a dramatic correction and ability to affect it - I think it is pretty clear. The status quo does not exist - West is committing suicide, we need an electro shock therapy, while there is still a healthy dose of right thinking people in our societies.
Let me ask you something. Do you know the meaning of this organization? To prevent this Islamic un-American Jew hating fake-Christian, Muslim pig from getting this country in his dirty smelly hands. We are tryinf to prevent the cotastrophe from happening all together. So I think you need a more optimistic approach to this disaster waiting to happen, or we will never fix it. If you wnat Obama to destroy this country quicker than you are part of the problem. This is a forum of FAITH AND ACTION. And quite Frankly I dont see either from you sir. >:(
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Re: McCain or Obama - your opinion?
« Reply #24 on: July 11, 2008, 06:47:14 PM »
No guarantees, of course, but history tells us that it may be likely. I am not looking for a punishment, but if Hashem is preparing it for us, I would much rather take it than pass it on to my children. I desire a dramatic correction and ability to affect it - I think it is pretty clear. The status quo does not exist - West is committing suicide, we need an electro shock therapy, while there is still a healthy dose of right thinking people in our societies.
Let me ask you something. Do you know the meaning of this organization? To prevent this Islamic un-American Jew hating fake-Christian, Muslim pig from getting this country in his dirty smelly hands. We are tryinf to prevent the cotastrophe from happening all together. So I think you need a more optimistic approach to this disaster waiting to happen, or we will never fix it. If you wnat Obama to destroy this country quicker than you are part of the problem. This is a forum of FAITH AND ACTION. And quite Frankly I dont see either from you sir. >:(

You have a good point, but I was answering the original question - which is my personal view on the US election. Look at it from another view - Reagan would not be possible without the preceding Carter fiasco. If Carter were not so disasterous, you would have Bush senior not in 1988 but in 1980.

By no means I would sit idly and welcome Obama. In fact,today, one of the rare days when I had a lunch to myself, I've left about 10 messages on Youtube, commenting on various videos pro and anti Israel videos:
"Excellent video! JTF dot ORG and JEWSAGAINSTOBAMA dot ORG are the right places for Jews and righteous Gentiles to save America and Israel." My action are also supported by my regular donations to JTF. So, you are wrong on that count and you completely misunderstood my point.

I agree with you on a 2nd point - the faith is what I am lacking - I will admit that freely. I do believe that majority of people in USA are brainwashed and stupid and they will bring Obama to power. I do believe that majority of Jews in Israel are too daft and weak to get rid of the treacherous and corrupt government. This, by no means, implies that I would support or help Obama candidacy - I would do my best to expose this muslim snake.

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