falange1 ?

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Hmmm. You are right--this is very suspicious. I have to wonder what their goals are. Do they want to make Israel a Christian state?

Particularly troubling was this line, especially since "Rosen" is a Jewish-sounding surname:

"What more fitting symbol for a pro-Israeli political party than the Jerusalem Cross"
Jeff Rosen, Philadelphia

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

Shalom,

Personally I dont think this organization is worthy of a Jew spending time to be friends with... Check out their Beliefs section on that web page... I really dont think a Jew should seek any moral-ethical ideas from the non-Jews.

muman613

Check out Point # 29 of their Beliefs and Commitments:

 29. In a Christian faith that seeks to demonstrate the love of G-d through political service. The principles we want to apply in everyday politics are drawn from the Bible, as well as from Christian political insights through the centuries.

31. In Christian Ecumenism and in the UNITY of ALL Christians be they Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant, Evangelical or other.  We reject all denominationalism. Those who believe in Jesus Christ as the Son of G-d, Messiah, Redeemer and as their personal savior must come together to defend the rights of the individual to the freedom of conscience and freedom of religion.

32. That our Christianity is a FIGHTING FAITH.  That we have the right and the duty to vigorously defend our rights as Christians, and to defend the rights of fellow Christians around the world.

I don't seem to find anything wrong with what you've listed here.   They are christians so what do you expect them to do ?   Unite around the beliefs of buddha?   

[Ambiorix]

The falangists were for a state-nationalism in Spain. In that regard I don't like them, as I think that Catalonia, and Baskia, should become independant from the rest of Spain.
Franco fought with the help of the German Luftwaffe against anarchists and communists in the Spanish Civil War.
I guess I am more pro-Franco then pro-communist.  But, as I said, i don't believe in a multi-ethnic state of Spain.

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The Falangists are a kind of fascists, that support "National Syndicalism"; Corporatism.

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There is also a branch of the falangists in Lebanon, and these Maronites, cleared Sabra en Shatilla from arab muslim Nazis.
These Lebanese Falangists are pro-Israel.

In South -America, the falangists are planning to unite all the countries of America, into 1 non-racist state.
I saw a website of them, in which they protest that one Lebanese leader is in a Syrian prison,...

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Not really the party I support.
 

[Angry Panther]

I thought phalanges were finger bones.

That's nothing, the first thing that went through my mind was Flan.

[Angry Panther]

C.F.,

My point is not that they are anti-semites. I am against it because of its relationship to the Crusaders. I really hate the Crusaders and the Inquisitioners. The Spanish were very cruel to the Jews and I do not forgive them, especially zealous Christian falangists who use the symbol of the Crusaders, that ghastly cross which was a symbol on the flag which was flown over the 'occupied' Jerusalem.

muman613

Hitler probably got the idea for the Nazi eagle flag from the Falangists (flan?) flag. After all they share the same philosophy.

[syyuge]

Phalangists were also involved in Lebanon:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kataeb_Party

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanese_war

[Ambiorix]

Hitler probably got the idea for the Nazi eagle flag from the Falangists (flan?) flag. After all they share the same philosophy.

Don't think so. The eagle is used by many nations as a national symbol.
HEre is a list.
Eagles as national symbols
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Double-headed eagle emblem of the Byzantine Empire. Relief from the Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople (Istanbul)
 
Coat of arms of the town of Berg en Terblijt in the Netherlands, an example of the prolific use of the eagle in European heraldry.
 
Napoleonic eagle
 
The Great Seal of the United States

Eagles have been used by many nations as a national symbol.
The coat of arms of Navarre/Basque Country Kingdom has a black eagle.
The coat of arms of Albania has a black double-headed eagle.
The coat of arms of Armenia has a gold eagle and lion.
The coat of arms of Austria has a black eagle.
The coat of arms of the Czech Republic integrates the symbols of Moravia and Silesia (both with female eagles in their emblems - red-and-white chequered and black respectively) on the coat of arms of the Czech Republic with Bohemia's lion.
The coat of arms of Egypt is a golden eagle looking towards the viewer's left.
The coat of arms of Germany has a black eagle.
The coat of arms of Ghana has two golden eagles holding it.
The coat of arms of Indonesia has an eagle-like garuda carrying a shield on its neck and a banner on its feet.
The coat of arms of Iraq has the golden Eagle of Saladin
The coat of arms of Jordan has a black eagle.
The coat of arms of Mexico golden eagle perched upon a cactus devouring a snake.
The coat of arms of Moldova consists of a stylized eagle holding a cross in its beak and a sceptre and a branch in its claws.
The coat of arms of Montenegro represents the two-headed eagle in flight.
The coat of arms of Nigeria has a red eagle on top.
The Insignia of the Pakistan Air Force includes the Peregrine Falcon State Military national bird.
The coat of arms of Panama has a harpy eagle
The coat of arms of the Philippines has the bald eagle of the United States.
The coat of arms of Poland has a white eagle with a golden beak and talons wearing a golden crown.
The coat of arms of Romania has a golden aquila holding a cross in its beak and a mace and a sword in its claws.
The coat of arms of Russia has a double-headed eagle.
The coat of arms of Serbia has a white bicephalic eagle of the House of Nemanjić.
The coat of arms of Syria formerly had the eagle of Saladin.
The Great Seal of the United States has a bald eagle.
The coat of arms of Yemen depicts a golden eagle with a scroll between its claws.
The coat of arms of Nigeria has a red eagle on top.
Hellenistic Egypt. The Ptolemaic rulers of Egypt used it as their seal.
First French Empire. Napoleon Bonaparte used the Roman Golden Eagle as the symbol of his new French empire.
Persian Empire. The symbol of Persian Army was an Eagle
Rome. The Romans used it on the standards of their armies. From this derives:
The late Byzantine Empire chose a two-headed golden eagle as its symbol. It is popularly that one head symbolised ancient Rome, and the other head symbolised "new Rome" at Constantinople. From this derives:
Albania. The two-headed eagle is the emblem of "Shqipëria" or Land of the Eagles, which is known in English as Albania (see The Tale of the Eagle for the legendary origin of the name)
Russian Empire. After the fall of Constantinople, the Russian Empire took the two-headed eagle as its own symbol.
Charlemagne and Holy Roman Empire. After his crowning as the new Roman Emperor, Charlemagne adopted the ancient Roman eagle as his own symbol. The Holy Roman Empire born of his kingdom took the eagle, but the Habsburgs replaced the golden eagle by an imperial eagle. From this derives:
Austria. The Austrian Empire had a two-headed eagle as its symbol. After the abolition of Austria-Hungary, Austria took as its symbol a one-headed eagle in the modern coat of arms of Austria.
Germany and Prussia. Prussia, and later Germany have used a black eagle as their national symbol.
Spain. The Catholic monarchs, Isabella and Ferdinand, used the eagle as a part of the royal shield representing Saint John the Evangelist. The eagle was again on the Spanish shield under the Francoist regime and the transition to Democracy (1939-1981).
The Seljuk Turks and Ottoman Turks used a double-headed eagle as coats-of-arms.>>

[Zionistforever]

these flangists originate in lebanon and they are pro israel, after fighting syria for lebanon before it being a independent state the flangists appreciated the jews they were friends and so was israel (the good old israel)

[zachor_ve_kavod]

Let's be pragmatic.  If we don't know them too well, then for sure there are other people who are visiting their website.  If they happen to see a JTF link, then they might click on it and be turned on to our movement.

The only question that matters is "Are they good for the Jews?".  They seem to support the IDF and Jonathon Pollard, so my guess is that they are good for the Jews.

Maybe I should contact them and hear their opinion of Kahanism and our movement?  If you guys want me to check it out, I will.  Whatever you think.

[muman613]

Let's be pragmatic.  If we don't know them too well, then for sure there are other people who are visiting their website.  If they happen to see a JTF link, then they might click on it and be turned on to our movement.

The only question that matters is "Are they good for the Jews?".  They seem to support the IDF and Jonathon Pollard, so my guess is that they are good for the Jews.

Maybe I should contact them and hear their opinion of Kahanism and our movement?  If you guys want me to check it out, I will.  Whatever you think.

Zachor,

I support extending a peaceful hand to them. But I hope that they will be honest with you about their intentions. Anything which is related to the Crusades or Crusaders or Conquistadors is not the best for the Jews. These people took advantage of us before and why should we believe they are not just using us for their purpose of being the sovereign power in Jerusalem? I dont want a non-Jewish controller of Jerusalem.

muman613

[zachor_ve_kavod]

Zachor,

I support extending a peaceful hand to them. But I hope that they will be honest with you about their intentions. Anything which is related to the Crusades or Crusaders or Conquistadors is not the best for the Jews. These people took advantage of us before and why should we believe they are not just using us for their purpose of being the sovereign power in Jerusalem? I dont want a non-Jewish controller of Jerusalem.

muman613

I understand your concern, but I am pretty good at interrogation.  I have a 16 year old son.   

[Zionistforever]

Zachor,

I support extending a peaceful hand to them. But I hope that they will be honest with you about their intentions. Anything which is related to the Crusades or Crusaders or Conquistadors is not the best for the Jews. These people took advantage of us before and why should we believe they are not just using us for their purpose of being the sovereign power in Jerusalem? I dont want a non-Jewish controller of Jerusalem.

muman613

i will contact them if everyone wants. we will all be skeptical at first untill we are sure of them

[Ambiorix]

Zachor,

I support extending a peaceful hand to them. But I hope that they will be honest with you about their intentions. Anything which is related to the Crusades or Crusaders or Conquistadors is not the best for the Jews. These people took advantage of us before and why should we believe they are not just using us for their purpose of being the sovereign power in Jerusalem? I dont want a non-Jewish controller of Jerusalem.

muman613

My guess is the Maronites want to live in peace with srael, and get rid of the Syria&Iranian muslim funded hezbollah.
Unfortunately, muslims are a majority now in Lebanon.

Frankly, Crusaders, and the nowdays Catholic Church, indeed have the intention of capturing and controlling Jerusalem,
I have no doubt about that.
The EU in my opinion is exactly trying to reestablish that.

[P J C]

They seem like a nice group but i keep doing a double take because their website symbol looks like the hitler eagle.

I highly doubt that these people are nazis who support Israel. However, we need to do more research before we contact them.