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Re: What do people here think of Germans?
« Reply #75 on: October 15, 2008, 08:26:45 AM »
Again why has'nt the original poster ever retuirned to see the answers to his question
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Re: What do people here think of Germans?
« Reply #76 on: October 15, 2008, 09:54:42 AM »
Again why has'nt the original poster ever retuirned to see the answers to his question

He was probably just trolling. That's a typical troll type of question to ask on a Jewish message board. At least it turned out for the positive in my opinion, it let people discuss their views and no big arguments started.  8)

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« Reply #77 on: October 15, 2008, 09:56:29 AM »
Again why has'nt the original poster ever retuirned to see the answers to his question

He was probably just trolling. That's a typical troll type of question to ask on a Jewish message board. At least it turned out for the positive in my opinion, it let people discuss their views and no big arguments started.  8)

Future topics I expect are things like "What do people here think of Greenland?"
humm let me think :laugh:
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Re: What do people here think of Germans?
« Reply #78 on: October 15, 2008, 11:07:01 AM »
i cannot forgive germans for what they did , the only germans i am willing to not see a part of it , are noahides , for obvious reasons .

Why not any good person who is not the enemy of the Jews? Hating someone for their nationality is racist. You should be angry if someone is behaving badly.

i am not a racist , i dont belive that there are human races , but human cultures

if someone consider himself a german , he consider himself a part of the culture , which tried to wipe jews out ... i cannot say that there were no good german people , but there weren't enough , not by a long shot .... most of this nation chose to be my enemy at a certine time and a certine place , and because of their acts , 6 million jews died

you and i hate the arabs for far less  
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the only german i dont see a part of this culture , is nohaide , because he repaced his culture , to a culture given by my g-d  ...

of course , any german that would technically "betray" sort of speak his german culture .. would not be considered really german to me ... but that doesn't mean i need to like him


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Re: What do people here think of Germans?
« Reply #79 on: October 15, 2008, 11:20:21 AM »
i am not a racist , i dont belive that there are human races , but human cultures

I believe in many ways culture proceeds from race, though individuals can always make a different choice. I wouldn't be who I am today if I weren't part of the white race and didn't have the heritage I hold. Maybe I wouldn't be as interested in science for example if I didn't have ancestors that came from a nation with many scientists.

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if someone consider himself a german , he consider himself a part of the culture , which tried to wipe jews out ...

Not necessarily. I consider myself an American and I don't agree with a lot of things in American culture of the last several decades, but I'm still proud to be an American.

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i cannot say that there were no good german people , but there weren't enough , not by a long shot .... most of this nation chose to be my enemy at a certine time and a certine place , and because of their acts , 6 million jews died

you and i hate the arabs for far less  
so ...

I think I understand where you're coming from, but I think condemning an entire ethnicity for the actions that happened within a very short span of time during that nation's history is wrong too. I mean nobody likes it when Jewish people as a whole are blamed for someone like George Soros. Does he make you less proud to be Jewish? He shouldn't, he's an evil man with an agenda that is hurting a lot of people, but he doesn't represent Jewish people as a whole.

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the only german i dont see a part of this culture , is nohaide , because he repaced his culture , to a culture given by my g-d  ...

of course , any german that would technically "betray" sort of speak his german culture .. would not be considered really german to me ... but that doesn't mean i need to like him

What about the Germans who hid Jews during the Holocaust or helped them escape, and were subsequently punished for it? Are they righteous Gentiles even if they were, for example, Catholics?

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Re: What do people here think of Germans?
« Reply #80 on: October 15, 2008, 11:25:20 AM »
I think we should see the politic and economic reality of today in Germany. And this reality doesn't look bright  :o

You are right.  But the best country to look at to see the abysmal future of Europe is France.  It has become the most disgusting example of tolerance on the face of the earth... and it will become nothing more than a country with pockets of no-go zones.


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Re: What do people here think of Germans?
« Reply #81 on: October 15, 2008, 11:32:56 AM »
I think we should see the politic and economic reality of today in Germany. And this reality doesn't look bright  :o

You are right.  But the best country to look at to see the abysmal future of Europe is France.  It has become the most disgusting example of tolerance on the face of the earth... and it will become nothing more than a country with pockets of no-go zones.


It makes me sad to think of the French nation being lost so completely. I knew a girl named Claude who lived in Marseilles who came over when I was a teenager to live with someone across the street as some sort of student-travel program for a little while and we got along with each other really well. She was studying to be a lawyer in France. I bet she's got her work cut out for her! Later on she sent me a letter saying she'd gotten married, etc.

There were good things in French culture that not everyone knows about, and not just the amazing culinary creations.

I don't like to see any European nation destroyed. It really hurts.  :(

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Re: What do people here think of Germans?
« Reply #82 on: October 15, 2008, 12:25:39 PM »
France is fallen to Socialism totally since the late seventies of the last century. They disappropriated the banks under the regime of Francois Mitterand.

This nation has had great people. Jean Calvin was a Frenchman, as well as Alexis de Toqueville, George Bernanos, Antoine de Saint Excupery, Thomas de Aquin, Michel de Montaigne,  etc.

Today they have the evil bolschewists Michel Houellebecq & Bernard-Henri Lévy 

This is their avant-garde :o :'(
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Re: What do people here think of Germans?
« Reply #83 on: October 15, 2008, 12:28:56 PM »
I like the story of the Little Prince. I used to watch a tv show based off of it on Nickelodeon in the 80s.

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« Reply #84 on: October 15, 2008, 01:10:45 PM »
I like the story of the Little Prince. I used to watch a tv show based off of it on Nickelodeon in the 80s.
Yes, but they are unreliable as allies. If mad King Louis in the 1400's hadn't withdrawn his knights from the army of Glyndwr then all you lot would now be speaking Welsh.

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Re: What do people here think of Germans?
« Reply #85 on: October 15, 2008, 01:11:53 PM »
Again why has'nt the original poster ever retuirned to see the answers to his question
Perhaps he went to the Oktoberfest anyway, for the beer.

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Re: What do people here think of Germans?
« Reply #86 on: October 15, 2008, 01:20:28 PM »
Again why has'nt the original poster ever retuirned to see the answers to his question
Perhaps he went to the Oktoberfest anyway, for the beer.
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Re: What do people here think of Germans?
« Reply #87 on: October 15, 2008, 01:56:15 PM »
rubeystars :

"I believe in many ways culture proceeds from race, though individuals can always make a different choice. I wouldn't be who I am today if I weren't part of the white race and didn't have the heritage I hold. Maybe I wouldn't be as interested in science for example if I didn't have ancestors that came from a nation with many scientists."

what race ? "whites" are no diffrent "race" ,  slavonic people come from a ancient nation called riphat in hebrew , and vivendi in greek ... used to live in asia minor untill they left for europe ... scandinevians are from a nation we call ashkenaz , and the assyrians knew them as "askusa" . they came from the van and don rivers whom their early tribes lived near in ancient times

huns , scythians ... they come from mesopotamia , subartu ... they are closer to black people's culture as sumerians then what you would call white people ...

geogrigians come from a people called meshek ,  which actually originated mainly in the caucsus

all this people's who are "white" come's from various cultures and places , and are not of the same branch of people ,

would you say that the spartans were greek ?
spartans , did not saw themselves as greeks , but as people of avraham ... sons of ketura

italians ?

its a nation we called in ancient times "Irum"  , which originate from esav !!!! , they mixed with the tyranus people , the same nation whom from came the palestines ... and formed the roman people ...

spanish ? .... they are phonicians who build a land called tharshish in southern spain ... they called it shpania , which later changed to modern word spain ...the basq people are another branch of tyanus people , whom are mainly called by modern scholars as "sea peoples"

not everything is what it seems , and if you'll explore the actuall history of each and every white culture you will see they all come from diffrent places ...

and even if you consider all whites to be a race , is that mean that black people and chienese are diffrent somehow ?
all people come from noah ... this is my belive ... i'm not darwinistic and i dont belive there are human races ... there is genetic links ... indeed , that doesn't make you a race ... each family would be a race if that was the case .... all humans look diffrent from one place to another , not because they are diffrent race , but because their enviroment , changed their apearances over time , cold places caused less melanin which caused brighter colours , hot places caused more melanin which caused darker colours .... this is not just what science think , its the same thing written in jewish sources , knowlege given by g-d .... all peoples look diffrent from place to place  because the the diffrent enviroment from place to place

so to me, the only thing defining what you call "Race" , is their seperate cultures and particularities .

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"Not necessarily. I consider myself an American and I don't agree with a lot of things in American culture of the last several decades, but I'm still proud to be an American."

americans did not have one single culture , they had few cultrues which fougth each other , and one won ...
and inside america there are millions of diffrent cultures ... because its made of percentages of other people's who came to live togheter .... i'm not speaking about country's here , but of nationality , culture of a group of people

would you say being an "American" is a nationality on its own ?
isn't every group of people in america call it self "italian american "/" irish american " , etc ?
this is the way it is precived outside usa , just letting you know heh

can you say someone is "italian german" for instance ?
i dont think so , its two diffrent nationalities...

"I think I understand where you're coming from, but I think condemning an entire ethnicity for the actions that happened within a very short span of time during that nation's history is wrong too."

really ? .... in that short span of time , all their nation was determined to annihilate jews ...and they killed more jews then all jews ever killed on history ... and during this short span of time they did not changed their mind even once , they tried to kill jews for a "short span of time" , because thats the time which took them to be defeated , if it was up to them , they would've wanted to  continue killing jews untill there were no jews .

the build up wasn't in that short span of time , but many many years ..as well .


" I mean nobody likes it when Jewish people as a whole are blamed for someone like George Soros. Does he make you less proud to be Jewish? He shouldn't, he's an evil man with an agenda that is hurting a lot of people, but he doesn't represent Jewish people as a whole."

i donno who he is , but whatever , you cannot compare indevidual acts , to an act done by a complete majority of an entire  nation

they all were nazi's , not just hitler .
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"What about the Germans who hid Jews during the Holocaust or helped them escape, and were subsequently punished for it? Are they righteous Gentiles even if they were, for example, Catholics?"

like i already said in the former message
"i cannot say that there were no good german people , but there weren't enough , not by a long shot .... "


if those catholics saved jewish kids only to raise them christians (like some did !) , they were not rightoes to me , if they did it to save jews , then yes , they were rightues in that act


i dont deny that there were good germans , i'm just saying ... they were not even a minority , if your talking in numbers , they almost didn't exist , compare to the size of the whole german nation residing in germany in those days .


so because of some good arabs , we should stop hating al qaida ?




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Re: What do people here think of Germans?
« Reply #88 on: October 15, 2008, 02:00:13 PM »
I like the story of the Little Prince. I used to watch a tv show based off of it on Nickelodeon in the 80s.
Yes, but they are unreliable as allies. If mad King Louis in the 1400's hadn't withdrawn his knights from the army of Glyndwr then all you lot would now be speaking Welsh.

All nations have their faults and good points.  ;D

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Re: What do people here think of Germans?
« Reply #89 on: October 15, 2008, 02:04:44 PM »
Hebrew I disagree with you and I believe that whites are related to one another on a genetic level. I consider the white race to be extended family, some more closely related than others. Of course if you go back far enough all people are related to one another.

I'm proud to be white and I'm proud to be of German and Irish/English/Scottish heritage. My genes are typical of whites in America and I think America, when it was made up of people like me, and even people of other European ethnicities like Italians, was doing pretty darn well for itself. It's when all the nonwhites started pouring in that it all went to hell.

Of course there are good people of all races and nations, but I really prefer homogeneity. I'd like for the United States to go back to a white, European-based culture. Not based on modern Europe but more like the values the founding fathers had.

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Re: What do people here think of Germans?
« Reply #90 on: October 15, 2008, 03:31:15 PM »

"Hebrew I disagree with you and I believe that whites are related to one another on a genetic level."

you can disagree with me all you want , i am right however , and will gladly prove it to you point by point if you want

all nations are related to each other in genetic level ...so your correct , but not all white people are of the same branch of people , this is wrong
your not the same as a scandinevian , they are a whole diffrent people  , for exemple .... the reason your both white , is because both of you lived in a very cold enviroment .... some nations in europe , comes directly out of black cultures ....like the sumerians ... i mean , just check their own legends ... they huns say they came from "nimrodus" (sumer!)  ... the magyar people comes from lydia ! this nations later mixed , with slavonic race called sarmatians , to form the hungarians you now know , WHICH STILL BY THE WAY , speak a type of sumerian ... hungarian and gerogian evolved out of sumerian ....they are the spoken lenguages used to understand and decode the sumerian lenguage ... etc .
i can go on and on about any "race" you choose

to be perfectly honest , most of this races only contact with eachother , was that most of them eventually reached the caucasus  , or asia minor , or war .... in ancient times ...

" I consider the white race to be extended family,some more closely related than others. Of course if you go back far enough all people are related to one another."

well , they are all family , cuz all of humans are family ..
but i tell you what ...  if arabs wouldn't mix with eygptians and other black people in aden ... they would all look very white to you .


"I'm proud to be white"

i never asked you not to be , i'm only explaining to you how people actually became white or black ...


" and I'm proud to be of German and Irish/English/Scottish heritage. "
ok ... just for the humor of it

scots conquared their land from the original europians who lived there which were called "picts" , the scots are actually "scythians" , from subarto , in mesopotamia ! .
the british have a name in celtic called cimry , this must be connected to Gomer /gimru , aka the kremerians , Celtic tribe who lived on the northen boarders of assyria until the 6 century bc , after wards he left to europe ,  who probably mixed with the saxons ... who was kicked out of scandinevia by the tribes of the modern scandinevians , who invaded from the region now called armenia (back in those days , kingdom of mini , and kingdom of ararat)
your not the same people man , you all came from diffrent places

"My genes are typical of whites in America and I think America, when it was made up of people like me, and even people of other European ethnicities like Italians, was doing pretty darn well for itself. It's when all the nonwhites started pouring in that it all went to hell."

it has nothing to do with what we discuss  , i dont have any problems with "whites" , judging by the mirror , i'm white .
and as far as i know, its whites who brougth the blacks there , they didn't came on their own .


"Of course there are good people of all races and nations, but I really prefer homogeneity. I'd like for the United States to go back to a white, European-based culture. Not based on modern Europe but more like the values the founding fathers had."

ok , indians would probably say the same hehe
look , i belive americans should do whats good for america
i'm israeli , i want to do what is good for israel ...the top priority is kicking out my enemies out of my land , and bringing all the jews back here and of course , creating a toranical state

your last message kind off went off tracks ... i wasn't saying nothing against white people
i understand your proud german ... i am proud hebraic  , and as such i cannot just look away and forget ...

btw , if your american i asume your family had nothing to do with it , so ... i cannot blame you for somthing you didnt do ...and wouldn't dream of doing that , but if you say your a proud german ...then obviously you see yourself as a part of the all german nation/culture .


just one exemple , two jews tried to poision the waters of german cities in early years after the holocaust ... if they would succed , you would probably be sad , right ? ....

rest my point (i wouldn't )

some of the bastards who killed jews , still live there today .


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Re: What do people here think of Germans?
« Reply #91 on: October 15, 2008, 03:39:43 PM »
This story of the poisoned water I don't know, but there were a group of allied Jewish soldiers after the war, that hunted Nazi war criminals and shoot them. They did the right thing.
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Re: What do people here think of Germans?
« Reply #92 on: October 15, 2008, 03:46:33 PM »
Same as everyone else you have good and bad people in all countries, except most islamic countries 

I agree with that! I think Islam breeds a special hatred all to its own. Whether German or not, it doesn't matter as much as  how you treat one another. As I remember there were Germans who didn't agree with Hitler and risked their lives to rescue Jewish people. Similarly, as much as I hate Islam, my country is looking at a possible Islamic president, which doesn't represent my beliefs. I pray he doesn't get in because I don't think he will help protect the Jewish people. I pray he is not elected. He doesn't represent this American!

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« Reply #93 on: October 15, 2008, 03:50:26 PM »
Same as everyone else you have good and bad people in all countries, except most islamic countries 

I agree with that! I think Islam breeds a special hatred all to its own. Whether German or not, it doesn't matter as much as  how you treat one another. As I remember there were Germans who didn't agree with Hitler and risked their lives to rescue Jewish people. Similarly, as much as I hate Islam, my country is looking at a possible Islamic president, which doesn't represent my beliefs. I pray he doesn't get in because I don't think he will help protect the Jewish people. I pray he is not elected. He doesn't represent this American!
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Re: What do people here think of Germans?
« Reply #94 on: October 15, 2008, 04:26:07 PM »
I have a tremendous respect for the culture, work ethic, innovation and genius of the  German people. If I can, I prefer to buy German-made products over any other (except from Italy and Israel) and I am ready to pay extra for their quality. I welcome German and Israel cooperation in trade and defense. I think Germany is the best European partner that Israel has right now.
Having said this, I do feel uncomfortable when I hear German speech and feel uncomfortable when among Germans/Austrians. I am very uneasy when I see old Germans who were a part of the 3rd Reich and subliminally wish them ill. I do not hold any grudges against Germans who were born after the War and generally like them. I've never been to Germany (I visited Austria few times) and am not inclined to go there except on business. I would never live in Germany.  
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Re: What do people here think of Germans?
« Reply #95 on: October 15, 2008, 04:38:56 PM »
Again why has'nt the original poster ever retuirned to see the answers to his question

He was probably just trolling. That's a typical troll type of question to ask on a Jewish message board. At least it turned out for the positive in my opinion, it let people discuss their views and no big arguments started.  8)

Future topics I expect are things like "What do people here think of Greenland?"

Actually there was one recently on "What do people here think of the Portuguese?", but I don't recall the response.

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Re: What do people here think of Germans?
« Reply #96 on: October 15, 2008, 05:36:37 PM »
There are three major branches of humanity, whites, Asians, and blacks, and smaller branches like Australoids and Pacific Islanders. The continents did have migrations of people who mixed somewhat with the indigenous peoples however the white race evolved in Europe. The paintings in Lascaux were done by white people thousands of years ago.

Anyway I would only be sad if the people who were poisoned were innocent and good people. If they were really Nazis then no I wouldn't be sad about that.



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Re: What do people here think of Germans?
« Reply #97 on: October 15, 2008, 07:46:30 PM »
i know man , caucausians , negroids ,and mongloids are the scientific terms , right ?
look , to be honest , this is a theory which started shaping much before modern exploration has began, and modern science just inhirited it ... for exemple , would you say japanese are asians by that definition ?
cuz its pretty clear now that modern japanese people started arriving there about 300 bc , from mesopotamia  , and not china or somthing like that , like you would asume by their appearnce
anyway .. europians are not the only white people out there
i can (if i'll find how to insert photos here) show you a little test , with pictures of diffrent peoples , and i'm pretty sure you'll cunfuse eastren people to be europian
and i'm pretty sure you might think that greeks and italians are eastren

its not all that black and white as you belive ... now i tell you man
dig up some of europe's main cultures history
you'll find out many intresting things , and one main thing , they all came from diffrent places , not europe

the people who probably drew this , was driven out by modern europian cultures as they invaded europe from the agean and asia

again , you asume that scots are europians for exemple , that is not true , the original inhabitants of scotland was called picts , the scots drove them off , and conquared their land .... the scots are litelry a scythian tribe , which originated in a land called subartu/sparada , in mesopotamia ... they did not "evolve" in europe ...

many many nations whom are now considered europian , used to live in asia minor , asia , and the east ... alot of lenguages in europe are driven out of ancient lenguages spoken in the east

infact ... if you read Welsh  book of what they call "Tanach" , it will sound like broken hebrew ... like someone who have a poor grammer in hebrew , trying to read the tanach , the words are almost the same ...

i know that your not regular to this type of claims , but speak to historians and lengwistics you trust man , and see for your self

btw , according to the theory you speak of , "whites" as in caucasians , include many non europians
so , its not really what your preaching anyway , right ?

good and innocent people dont go burning people who done nothing wrong to them.

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Re: What do people here think of Germans?
« Reply #98 on: October 15, 2008, 08:02:44 PM »
This story of the poisoned water I don't know, but there were a group of allied Jewish soldiers after the war, that hunted Nazi war criminals and shoot them. They did the right thing.
If only there had been armed Jews like that before the war, there wouldn't have been a Shoah. Instead, 95% of Jews, religious and secular alike, believed that it was their duty to obey Hitler and be good Jewish citizens. Jabotinsky's common sense was completely rejected. So, 6.5 million Jews were exterminated like insects without a fight.

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Re: What do people here think of Germans?
« Reply #99 on: October 15, 2008, 11:33:16 PM »
White skulls are different from Asian or Negro skulls. Different types of white skulls are more similar to one another than to those of other races. Whatever invasions happened they were layered on top of an indigenous population. I believe you that there were movements of genes and people from the Middle East or other places at different points but there was also an indigenous European population there.

As for Japanese their closest genetic relatives are Koreans followed by Chinese and the skulls tell the same story. Even if Japanese generally hate anyone in Asia not Japanese  :laugh: Hey that's a healthy type of hatred though, it keeps them Japanese!