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« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2008, 12:37:17 PM »
The videos you have posted have nothing to do with RSS or the BJP, its talks of Hindu extremists, there are extremists who are in every community, the society has to get rid of them.

Also what is happening in a Small village or tribal town in a state of India, does not mean its happening All over the country.

On a personal note,i am also deeply sadned by whats going on in that particular part of India,I hope sanity prevail there.

Also if there are Hindu extremists,they are in very small numbers, also the probabilty of Hindu Nationalists taking up arms is very rare, if that was the case,The British would not have ruled over India for 100 years and the Islamic rulers for more than 400 years.

The Hindu Nationalist Movements all want the same things, a completely Hindu India. The first video I posted was all about the BJP and RSS. You need to learn how to lie better if you're going to keep doing it. They admire Hitler and the Nazis are emulating their behavior.


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« Reply #26 on: December 07, 2008, 12:39:55 PM »
Hmmm... Creation by and the inclusion of the names like Faiz Rahman and Burhan Wazir clearly indicates that it is an IJT and/or Euro-Communist propaganda.

If someone is not able to understand such a simple thing, then it goes beyond doubt.

You sound like a Muslim, always blaming the media for giving them a bad image.

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« Reply #27 on: December 07, 2008, 12:49:25 PM »
Hmmm... Creation by and the inclusion of the names like Faiz Rahman and Burhan Wazir clearly indicates that it is an IJT and/or Euro-Communist propaganda.

If someone is not able to understand such a simple thing, then it goes beyond doubt.

You sound like a Muslim, always blaming the media for giving them a bad image.

You seem to be supporting the Islamic Media.
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« Reply #28 on: December 07, 2008, 12:50:25 PM »
Hmmm... Creation by and the inclusion of the names like Faiz Rahman and Burhan Wazir clearly indicates that it is an IJT and/or Euro-Communist propaganda.

If someone is not able to understand such a simple thing, then it goes beyond doubt.

You sound like a Muslim, always blaming the media for giving them a bad image.

You seem to be supporting the Islamic Media.

Most documentaries about this are from Britain.

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« Reply #29 on: December 07, 2008, 12:53:41 PM »
The videos you have posted have nothing to do with RSS or the BJP, its talks of Hindu extremists, there are extremists who are in every community, the society has to get rid of them.

Also what is happening in a Small village or tribal town in a state of India, does not mean its happening All over the country.

On a personal note,i am also deeply sadned by whats going on in that particular part of India,I hope sanity prevail there.

Also if there are Hindu extremists,they are in very small numbers, also the probabilty of Hindu Nationalists taking up arms is very rare, if that was the case,The British would not have ruled over India for 100 years and the Islamic rulers for more than 400 years.

The Hindu Nationalist Movements all want the same things, a completely Hindu India. The first video I posted was all about the BJP and RSS. You need to learn how to lie better if you're going to keep doing it. They admire Hitler and the Nazis are emulating their behavior.


correction, they do not want India with complete Hindu, But India declared as Hindu State, There is nothing wrong in it, just like Israelis have Israel as a Jewish state, does not mean Jews want complete Israel to be full of Jews.

BJP and RSS and completely Zionist and pro-Semitic, a few statement of theirs have been blown out of proportion by Socialist/Commie controlled media.Remember when Modi (a leading BJP leader) was denied Visa to USA, he got visa to visit Israel without any problem.

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« Reply #30 on: December 07, 2008, 12:54:08 PM »
Hmmm... Creation by and the inclusion of the names like Faiz Rahman and Burhan Wazir clearly indicates that it is an IJT and/or Euro-Communist propaganda.

If someone is not able to understand such a simple thing, then it goes beyond doubt.

You sound like a Muslim, always blaming the media for giving them a bad image.

You seem to be supporting the Islamic Media.

Most documentaries about this are from Britain.

It certifies itself with the seal of Euro-Communism and Jihad.
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« Reply #31 on: December 07, 2008, 12:57:34 PM »
I posted an Ask JTF question about all this. I'm fed up with all the double talk and excuses. People can study this for themselves, I've posted enough information for people to get started.

I just wish that more JTFers were aware of this.

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« Reply #32 on: December 07, 2008, 12:59:32 PM »
I posted an Ask JTF question about all this. I'm fed up with all the double talk and excuses. People can study this for themselves, I've posted enough information for people to get started.

I just wish that more JTFers were aware of this.
pardon me for my ignorance, can you point me to the link of that?

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« Reply #33 on: December 07, 2008, 01:02:09 PM »
I posted an Ask JTF question about all this. I'm fed up with all the double talk and excuses. People can study this for themselves, I've posted enough information for people to get started.

I just wish that more JTFers were aware of this.
pardon me for my ignorance, can you point me to the link of that?

http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php/topic,29286.0.html

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« Reply #34 on: December 07, 2008, 01:05:42 PM »
I posted an Ask JTF question about all this. I'm fed up with all the double talk and excuses. People can study this for themselves, I've posted enough information for people to get started.

I just wish that more JTFers were aware of this.
pardon me for my ignorance, can you point me to the link of that?

http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php/topic,29286.0.html
Ok thanks,awaiting the answer

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« Reply #35 on: December 07, 2008, 01:09:12 PM »
For to the query you posted in that thread,I would like to point out that, Many Christian people of India support the Congress government in India,which is known to be anti-semitic, isn't that like making a pact with a devil?

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« Reply #36 on: December 07, 2008, 06:27:30 PM »
India's whole system is messed up.

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« Reply #37 on: December 08, 2008, 02:34:02 AM »
India's whole system is messed up.

Just because Jihad and Euro-Communism are not wholeheartedly welcome there? OR just because some people there are opposing Jihadi terrorism and Euro-Communism by tooth and nails?
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« Reply #38 on: December 08, 2008, 03:50:34 AM »
I'm kind of torn on this one.  I know there is violence towards Christians in India which is 100% wrong but at the same time if I look from the Indian perspective they have one country for their religion and they are losing it to a large Muslim population and have no one who is doing anything about it.  I think that link was biased because it was made in Britain. Britain has a huge Muslim population that has raised money for terrorism and propaganda against Indian Hindus. 

There is a massive anti-Hindu movement by Muslims across the world!  India is the biggest target for Muslims next to Israel and the US and there are countless Jihadist videos against India all over the web.  The Muslims and Arabs hate India and want to convert the whole country.  The youtube link said that the BJP was "inspired" by Hitler and Nazis but gave 0 evidence to back it up.  The video was also very suspect because it misled the viewer to show the Swastika on a flag when that symbol was stolen by Hitler from the Indians to use in Germany.  The Indian symbol is hundreds of years old and had nothing to with Germany or anti-semitism before he 1930's. The native Americans also used a swastika type symbol but that was also hundreds of years before Hitler as well.  For that misinformation in the video, it makes it suspect that it is Muslim propaganda. 

At the same time I saw that part of the video was from the 700 Club and they are good people who want to help people to come closer to God and do good and wonderful things.  I was shocked to see them express outrage at anti-Muslim violence just to get at the Hindus. 
Muslims are behind a lot of the anti-Indian and anti-Hindu videos, information and so on.  They don't talk about the Hindu temples that have been burned to the ground by Muslim mobs to be replaced by mosques. Muslims also have compared Kahanists to Nazis.  I've seen Fakestinian professors say that the Irgun wore black and marched like Nazis.  I don't think marching and being in large groups makes them Nazis.

All that being said, Christians and Sieks have to be protected in India.  Even if Hinduism is under threat, they cannot kill Christians for providing aid and help to the lower castes.  I really hope that Christians, Jews and Hindus can come to respect each other more and hopefully fight the massive, approaching Muslim enemy.   

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« Reply #39 on: December 08, 2008, 05:02:18 AM »
"The Hindu Nationalist Movements all want the same things, a completely Hindu India". India is a nation primarily of Hindus is it not? Would you prefer that they keep all their muslims who slaughter them?
The only Christians that I have heard of that Hindus have contempt for are the ones that go to India to missionise and I agree with them in their approach in curbing this problem and wish the Jews would approach it in the same manner. Many of the Bnei Menashe that were once Jews were stolen from Judaism by these same western missionaries.

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« Reply #40 on: December 08, 2008, 07:30:23 AM »
I'm kind of torn on this one.  I know there is violence towards Christians in India which is 100% wrong but at the same time if I look from the Indian perspective they have one country for their religion and they are losing it to a large Muslim population and have no one who is doing anything about it.  I think that link was biased because it was made in Britain. Britain has a huge Muslim population that has raised money for terrorism and propaganda against Indian Hindus. 

There is a massive anti-Hindu movement by Muslims across the world!  India is the biggest target for Muslims next to Israel and the US and there are countless Jihadist videos against India all over the web.  The Muslims and Arabs hate India and want to convert the whole country.  The youtube link said that the BJP was "inspired" by Hitler and Nazis but gave 0 evidence to back it up.  The video was also very suspect because it misled the viewer to show the Swastika on a flag when that symbol was stolen by Hitler from the Indians to use in Germany.  The Indian symbol is hundreds of years old and had nothing to with Germany or anti-semitism before he 1930's. The native Americans also used a swastika type symbol but that was also hundreds of years before Hitler as well.  For that misinformation in the video, it makes it suspect that it is Muslim propaganda. 

At the same time I saw that part of the video was from the 700 Club and they are good people who want to help people to come closer to G-d and do good and wonderful things.  I was shocked to see them express outrage at anti-Muslim violence just to get at the Hindus. 
Muslims are behind a lot of the anti-Indian and anti-Hindu videos, information and so on.  They don't talk about the Hindu temples that have been burned to the ground by Muslim mobs to be replaced by mosques. Muslims also have compared Kahanists to Nazis.  I've seen Fakestinian professors say that the Irgun wore black and marched like Nazis.  I don't think marching and being in large groups makes them Nazis.

All that being said, Christians and Sieks have to be protected in India.  Even if Hinduism is under threat, they cannot kill Christians for providing aid and help to the lower castes.  I really hope that Christians, Jews and Hindus can come to respect each other more and hopefully fight the massive, approaching Muslim enemy.   
"The Hindu Nationalist Movements all want the same things, a completely Hindu India". India is a nation primarily of Hindus is it not? Would you prefer that they keep all their muslims who slaughter them?
The only Christians that I have heard of that Hindus have contempt for are the ones that go to India to missionise and I agree with them in their approach in curbing this problem and wish the Jews would approach it in the same manner. Many of the Bnei Menashe that were once Jews were stolen from Judaism by these same western missionaries.
i am just amazed about the knowledge and understanding you guys have of India,Hindus,inspite of not being one. Hail JTF!
just a little correction, Hindu Nationalist Movements do not want a completely Hindu India, but India be declared Hindu State, how hard is that? it shudnt be a problem for people of other faiths living in India if India is declared a Hindu State, just like Jewish State of Israel

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« Reply #41 on: December 08, 2008, 10:08:24 AM »
I'm kind of torn on this one.  I know there is violence towards Christians in India which is 100% wrong but at the same time if I look from the Indian perspective they have one country for their religion and they are losing it to a large Muslim population and have no one who is doing anything about it.  I think that link was biased because it was made in Britain. Britain has a huge Muslim population that has raised money for terrorism and propaganda against Indian Hindus. 

There is a massive anti-Hindu movement by Muslims across the world!  India is the biggest target for Muslims next to Israel and the US and there are countless Jihadist videos against India all over the web.  The Muslims and Arabs hate India and want to convert the whole country.  The youtube link said that the BJP was "inspired" by Hitler and Nazis but gave 0 evidence to back it up.  The video was also very suspect because it misled the viewer to show the Swastika on a flag when that symbol was stolen by Hitler from the Indians to use in Germany.  The Indian symbol is hundreds of years old and had nothing to with Germany or anti-semitism before he 1930's. The native Americans also used a swastika type symbol but that was also hundreds of years before Hitler as well.  For that misinformation in the video, it makes it suspect that it is Muslim propaganda. 

At the same time I saw that part of the video was from the 700 Club and they are good people who want to help people to come closer to G-d and do good and wonderful things.  I was shocked to see them express outrage at anti-Muslim violence just to get at the Hindus. 
Muslims are behind a lot of the anti-Indian and anti-Hindu videos, information and so on.  They don't talk about the Hindu temples that have been burned to the ground by Muslim mobs to be replaced by mosques. Muslims also have compared Kahanists to Nazis.  I've seen Fakestinian professors say that the Irgun wore black and marched like Nazis.  I don't think marching and being in large groups makes them Nazis.

All that being said, Christians and Sieks have to be protected in India.  Even if Hinduism is under threat, they cannot kill Christians for providing aid and help to the lower castes.  I really hope that Christians, Jews and Hindus can come to respect each other more and hopefully fight the massive, approaching Muslim enemy.   
"The Hindu Nationalist Movements all want the same things, a completely Hindu India". India is a nation primarily of Hindus is it not? Would you prefer that they keep all their muslims who slaughter them?
The only Christians that I have heard of that Hindus have contempt for are the ones that go to India to missionise and I agree with them in their approach in curbing this problem and wish the Jews would approach it in the same manner. Many of the Bnei Menashe that were once Jews were stolen from Judaism by these same western missionaries.
i am just amazed about the knowledge and understanding you guys have of India,Hindus,inspite of not being one. Hail JTF!
just a little correction, Hindu Nationalist Movements do not want a completely Hindu India, but India be declared Hindu State, how hard is that? it shudnt be a problem for people of other faiths living in India if India is declared a Hindu State, just like Jewish State of Israel

How much kind, great and benevolent of you all for your clear, correct, nice and firm expressions. I do not have many words of gratitude.

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« Reply #42 on: December 08, 2008, 11:15:41 AM »
"The Hindu Nationalist Movements all want the same things, a completely Hindu India". India is a nation primarily of Hindus is it not? Would you prefer that they keep all their muslims who slaughter them?
The only Christians that I have heard of that Hindus have contempt for are the ones that go to India to missionise and I agree with them in their approach in curbing this problem and wish the Jews would approach it in the same manner. Many of the Bnei Menashe that were once Jews were stolen from Judaism by these same western missionaries.

They murder their own people who convert to Christianity and rape and beat them and try to force them to convert to Hinduism. The Hindu nationalists are just as evil as the Muslims. They trash churches and kill pastors.

Christians aren't the only targets of Hindu terrorism either and Hinduism is NOT the only religion native to India, so no India should not be declared a Hindu state. They also murder Sikhs whose religion is Indian in origin.

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« Reply #43 on: December 08, 2008, 11:24:03 AM »
"The Hindu Nationalist Movements all want the same things, a completely Hindu India". India is a nation primarily of Hindus is it not? Would you prefer that they keep all their muslims who slaughter them?
The only Christians that I have heard of that Hindus have contempt for are the ones that go to India to missionise and I agree with them in their approach in curbing this problem and wish the Jews would approach it in the same manner. Many of the Bnei Menashe that were once Jews were stolen from Judaism by these same western missionaries.

They murder their own people who convert to Christianity and rape and beat them and try to force them to convert to Hinduism. The Hindu nationalists are just as evil as the Muslims. They trash churches and kill pastors.

Christians aren't the only targets of Hindu terrorism either and Hinduism is NOT the only religion native to India, so no India should not be declared a Hindu state. They also murder Sikhs whose religion is Indian in origin.
The State of Punjab,in India is ruled by a Sikh Political Party, which is in coalition with BJP

secondly,The Hindu Nationalist organisations are free to operate in every country around the work, which only speaks volumes of their social work,service they render to people unlike what Euro-Communist,Arab funded media claim.

and what do you mean by Hindusim is not native religion of India? please elaborate

and stop heaping insults on Hindu Nationalists, even we can claim that Chirstians in India are hypocrites, they support a anti-Semitic government in India,which would not suit the agenda of JTF.

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« Reply #44 on: December 08, 2008, 11:38:52 AM »
secondly,The Hindu Nationalist organisations are free to operate in every country around the work, which only speaks volumes of their social work,service they render to people unlike what Euro-Communist,Arab funded media claim.

http://www.khalistan.com/OpenLetters/ol042704_PunjabElectionsMay10.htm

"Congress and the BJP are both the enemies of the Sikh Nation. They both watch out for the interests of the Hindu majority at the expense of the Sikh Nation and other minorities. The BJP has murdered Muslims in Gujarat, in Kashmir, and elsewhere and Christians in Nagaland and throughout India. They have forcibly reconverted Christians back to Hinduism. They preach Hindutva (total Hindu control of the culture and society) and openly preach that if you live in India, you must either be Hindu or be subservient to Hinduism."

http://www.khalistan-affairs.org/home/khalistancalling/2008/october29.aspx
"The arrest of six activists of the Hindu Jagran Manch (including 3 Ex Army officers) having links with the Akhil Bhartiya Vidayarthi Parishad ( ABVP), a student organization of the BJP, exposes the fascist designs of the ‘Sangh Parivar’ and its nefarious plan to defame and persecute the minority communities, particularly the Muslims.  Following the blasts the right wing ‘saffron brigade’ activists let loose a reign of terror in Malegaon and its neighboring areas of Dhulia on October 5. While five Muslims were killed – burnt alive inside their home - and several injured, a number of places of worship (mosques) of the minority community were also desecrated in this communal flare-up. Such serial blasts have always provided an opportunity to right wing Hindutva fanatics (like the Hindu Jagran Manch) not only to demonize the Muslim minority but also to attack them and vandalize their property and places of worship. But what makes the acts of terrorism and violence perpetrated by the Hindu Jagran Manch more reprehensible and grave is the fact that those involved in it are associated with a major political party – the BJP - which has been shielding them while they resort to such acts parading as patriots and nationalists."

"In Orissa, where the BJP is ruling in aliance with the BJD, and Karanataka,and Madhya Pradesh where it rules the ‘sangh parivar’ outfits like Bajrang Dal and VHP are currently engaged in the persecution of the Christians with the state authorities either conniving with them or behaving in an indifferent manner. The communal and terrorist character of the BJP, RSS, and its siblings which believe in the concept of India being a Hindu nation with all others like the Muslims and Christians as aliens, is widely known. Their role in the communal violence in the wake of India's partition needs no elaboration. The first act of terrorism in which those associated with the ‘sangh parivar’ was the assassination of India’s founding father, 'Mahatma' Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi -- born 2 October, 1869 and murdered on 30 January, 1948.  Nathu Ram Godse, Gandhi’s assassin and his associates were inspired by the fascist Hindutva RSS ideology to resort to such a gory act. A number of RSS activists were arrested for Gandhi's assassination but later set free as a matter of political expediency."

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and what do you mean by Hindusim is not native religion of India? please elaborate

Hinduism is native to India, but it's not the ONLY native religion to India. You have no right to murder people for not following Hinduism. Sikhism is an Indian religion too!

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« Reply #45 on: December 08, 2008, 11:52:01 AM »
nice twisted article from a Khalistani website which declared as Terrorist organisation Globally http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/countries/india/states/punjab/terrorist_outfits/KZF.htm

Also the Shiromani Akal Dal which is highest Sikh Holy body do not support views espoused by Khalistani movement


Hinduism is native to India, but it's not the ONLY native religion to India. You have no right to murder people for not following Hinduism. Sikhism is an Indian religion too!
Hinduism was first religion of India and the religion practise by most people in India,secondly the incident of riots between Hindus-Christians originated due to a a famous Hindu religious leader killed allegedly by Christian missionaries along with Communist-Mao guerillas.

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« Reply #46 on: December 08, 2008, 12:05:00 PM »
On 30 January 1948, Gandhi was shot and killed while having his nightly public walk on the grounds of the Birla Bhavan (Birla House) in New Delhi. The assassin, Nathuram Godse, was a Hindu radical with links to the extremist Hindu Mahasabha, who held Gandhi responsible for weakening India by insisting upon a payment to Pakistan.Godse and his co-conspirator Narayan Apte were later tried and convicted; they were executed on 15 November 1949. Gandhi's memorial (or Samādhi) at Rāj Ghāt, New Delhi, bears the epigraph "Hē Ram", (Devanagari: हे ! राम or, He Rām), which may be translated as "Oh G-d". These are widely believed to be Gandhi's last words after he was shot, though the veracity of this statement has been disputed. Jawaharlal Nehru addressed the nation through radio




Godse assassinated Gandhi on January 30, 1948, approaching him during the evening prayer, bowing, and shooting him three times at close range with a Beretta semi-automatic pistol. Immediately after this, he surrendered himself to police


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« Reply #47 on: December 08, 2008, 12:07:45 PM »

Group photo of people accused in the murder of Mahatma Gandhi. Standing: Shankar Kistaiya, Gopal Godse, Madanlal Pahwa, Digambar Badge (Approver). Seated: Narayan Apte, Vinayak D. Savarkar, Nathuram Godse, Vishnu Karkare

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« Reply #48 on: December 08, 2008, 12:09:16 PM »
nice twisted article from a Khalistani website which declared as Terrorist organisation Globally http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/countries/india/states/punjab/terrorist_outfits/KZF.htm

Also the Shiromani Akal Dal which is highest Sikh Holy body do not support views espoused by Khalistani movement


Hinduism is native to India, but it's not the ONLY native religion to India. You have no right to murder people for not following Hinduism. Sikhism is an Indian religion too!
Hinduism was first religion of India and the religion practise by most people in India,secondly the incident of riots between Hindus-Christians originated due to a a famous Hindu religious leader killed allegedly by Christian missionaries along with Communist-Mao guerillas.

If you make it a Hindu nation then religious minorities will lose their rights. Not all Indian citizens are Hindu and you need to come to terms with that and leave people who choose another religion alone! It's not your right to tell people what religion they should follow. That's a very personal choice that's none of your business. Furthermore you have no right to say that Hinduism should be the state religion of India when it's not the only religon of Indian origin.

In America it's expected when someone is being serious that they're not hiding things or obstructing things, but just like the Muslim terrorists, when you Hindu terrorists want to convince people that you're peaceful, you tell a little bit of the truth and then a little bit of a lie and then try to claim the media is smearing you. The crimes of the BJP, RSS, and other Hindu terrorist supporters will be exposed to the world and if Israel aligns itself too closely with you, thinking you a friend, then she will also be hurt.

Sure, Jews are safe with Hindus now, but Jews were pretty safe in pre-WW2 Germany too. I am trying to sound the bell about the next wave of Nazis, who are alreday killing people who aren't like them.

There's a poem that goes like this:

"In Germany, they came first for the Communists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist;
And then they came for the trade unionists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist;
And then they came for the Jews, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew;
And then . . . they came for me . . . And by that time there was no one left to speak up."

I see the same thing happening in India. JTFers please don't make this mistake. They are killing unarmed Muslim women and children, and we don't speak up about that because we don't like Muslims (I don't either) and because of what Muslims do, but they are also killing Christians, and maybe JTF isn't speaking up about the Christians because JTF is a Jewish organization, and after all the Hindu nationalists are nice to the Jews right now. The Hindu nationalists are killing the Sikhs, and who is speaking up for them? So I ask, JTF, when they finally turn on you, when these neo-nazi Hindu nationalists come for the Jews, then who will stand up for you?

The crimes against humanity caused by Hindu nationalists are well known and just because you tell part of the truth in your posts doesn't make them any less of a lie. You are lying and making excuses for Hindu terrorists and criminals.

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« Reply #49 on: December 08, 2008, 12:29:54 PM »
For some little span of time, I felt that I was going through a Pak666 propaganda sponsored by Euro-Communism. Thanks it is a JTF site. 
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