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[Rubystars]

Remember Lisa, when I told you that sooner or later they'd be painting our forums with their nasty fylfots? I'm locking this topic until another moderator or an admin can deal with this.

[Lisa]

Hindu Zionist, if Indians want to continue using that symbol in their own country, that's up to them.  However, being that this is first and foremost, a Jewish forum, I'm going to remove those pictures. 

[Rubystars]

Thank you Lisa. Regardless of the intention those images can hurt people who lost family.

[SavetheWest]

The swastika was stolen by Hitler and the Nazis from India because it was an ancient symbol that Hitler said was Aryan.  He desecrated this Indian religious symbol and made it a German one when it has always been Indian.  

Also, Christian missionaries should be focusing on former communist countries such as China, where there is actually a religious vacuum.  There are people in China who need religious direction as there are in Eastern Europe and much of Russia.  India has let many people live there but Hindusim has been the oldest faith.  There have been problems  between Sieks and Hindus but the BJP wants a religious Hindu state just as Kahanists want a true Jewish state in Israel.  Israel has and always will let the Armenian Christians and others live in peace within their country.  India will do the same and some acts of violence among more than a billion people is something that happens although it shouldn't.  The Muslims are behind the anti-Indian propaganda that we get in the US.  

Liberal Christians have allied themselves and stirred up trouble with Maoist terrorists in India to help the lower castes.  Muslims have also tried to stir up problems among the lower castes to overthrow the Hindu society.  Liberal Christians were also involved in helping the Maoist terrorist movement in Nepal overthrown the kingdom there which was endorsed by liberal Christian Jimmy Carter just this year.  Also, Christians have caused some of the tension in India by giving food and housing for conversions.  That tactic is not Christian and not right and similar to Jews for Jesus.  Real Christians want to save souls and not overthrow governments and cause civil strife.  I don't recall Mother Theresa trading souls for food and was always welcome in India and inspired many to become Christian because of her charity.  (I hope I don't find out she was pro Fakestinian from someone here though).  Christian missions are done by the best of the best but some of the practices in India are not right.  

[Rubystars]

Christians who are living in India are Indian citizens too and deserve rights, safety and respect. It is a religion that is growing in popularity among the Dalits and the RSS doesn't like that. They don't believe an individual has a right to choose.

[✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ]

Hindu Zionist, if Indians want to continue using that symbol in their own country, that's up to them.  However, being that this is first and foremost, a Jewish forum, I'm going to remove those pictures. 

Thank you Lisa. Regardless of the intention those images can hurt people who lost family.

i respect the decision.

[SavetheWest]

But then do they have a right to choose in Israel as well and try to convert people there when they don't want them to?  What's the difference?

[SavetheWest]

And you are 100% right that Christians there deserve to live in safety and security.  No question about that.

[Rubystars]

But then do they have a right to choose in Israel as well and try to convert people there when they don't want them to?  What's the difference?

The Jews as a people are defined by their religion. Indians are Indians regardless of religion. Hinduism is not the only faith of India, not even the only native faith.

[Rubystars]

And you are 100% right that Christians there deserve to live in safety and security.  No question about that.

Then don't support the Hindu nationalists who slaughter them.

[SavetheWest]

Hinduism has always been the faith of India and they have been subject to Christian and Muslim invasions.  There are druids and Christians who live in Israel and they are allowed to live there.

[✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ]

Christians who are living in India are Indian citizens too and deserve rights, safety and respect. It is a religion that is growing in popularity among the Dalits and the RSS doesn't like that. They don't believe an individual has a right to choose.

many RSS members are Dalit,there are no prejudices against anyone.

Can we please stick to the topic of the thread? helping the Chabad House of Mumbai.

[Rubystars]

Hinduism has always been the faith of India and they have been subject to Christian and Muslim invasions.  There are druids and Christians who live in Israel and they are allowed to live there.

When Britain controlled India they put a stop to some of the more horrific customs or at least reduced them. I think Indians were better off under British rule. Nevertheless if India is to be independent it needs to recognize all its people, not just the Hindus.

[SavetheWest]

And you are 100% right that Christians there deserve to live in safety and security.  No question about that.

Then don't support the Hindu nationalists who slaughter them.

The Hindus don't want to have their religion erased by conversions too and they don't want liberal Christians helping Maoist terrorists.

[✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ]

And you are 100% right that Christians there deserve to live in safety and security.  No question about that.

Then don't support the Hindu nationalists who slaughter them.

but they will support the Anti-Semitic Indian socialist government?

[Rubystars]

And you are 100% right that Christians there deserve to live in safety and security.  No question about that.

Then don't support the Hindu nationalists who slaughter them.

The Hindus don't want to have their religion erased by conversions too and they don't want liberal Christians helping Maoist terrorists.

Don't make excuses for attacks on innocent, unarmed people!

[Rubystars]

And you are 100% right that Christians there deserve to live in safety and security.  No question about that.

Then don't support the Hindu nationalists who slaughter them.

but they will support the Anti-Semitic Indian socialist government?

I don't agree with that government either. I don't think India is very well off at all right now no matter which party takes power.

[SavetheWest]

The British slaughtered thousands of unarmed Indians and invaded their nation and made them 2nd class citizens in their own land.  That same British government also committed genocide against the Irish by sending food out of Ireland when people were starving.

I will submit that the British did have a great influence on the education systems around the world and stopped some bad practices but they were still not welcome.

[briann]

I do not think that Gandhi was EVIL..   He was just short sided and myopic with his hate against the British Rule... that he ignored the threat of Islam... which turned out to be the larger problem in the longer run.

[SavetheWest]

And you are 100% right that Christians there deserve to live in safety and security.  No question about that.

Then don't support the Hindu nationalists who slaughter them.

The Hindus don't want to have their religion erased by conversions too and they don't want liberal Christians helping Maoist terrorists.

You're right that anyone who kills unarmed Christian civilians is evil.  The BJP though, wants Hindu pride and nationalism back, not the murder of anyone.  Those crimes are slander on the BJP and not connected to them.

Don't make excuses for attacks on innocent, unarmed people!

[Rubystars]

The British slaughtered thousands of unarmed Indians and invaded their nation and made them 2nd class citizens in their own land.  That same British government also committed genocide against the Irish by sending food out of Ireland when people were starving.

I will submit that the British did have a great influence on the education systems around the world and stopped some bad practices but they were still not welcome.

I'd like you and others to answer this for me. How can we say we don't want America and the West to become third world banana republics, then turn around and buddy up to a third world banana republic? This makes no sense to me.

[SavetheWest]

Let me try that again.  The liberal Christians are also responsible for helping the Maoists terrorists.  What nation should put up with that though? 

[Rubystars]

You're right that anyone who kills unarmed Christian civilians is evil.  The BJP though, wants Hindu pride and nationalism back, not the murder of anyone.  Those crimes are slander on the BJP and not connected to them.

Tell that to Christians in Orissa. See if they agree.

[Rubystars]

Let me try that again.  The liberal Christians are also responsible for helping the Maoists terrorists.  What nation should put up with that though? 

The Hindu nationalists think India should be a Hindu state, but where does that leave minorities? Where should they turn? Who will save them from the beasts who come to beat them, murder them and rape their wives and kill their children?

Hinduism must have its own form of Taqqiya because I've certainly seen a lot of double talk from the Hindus.

[✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ]

why is the title "(Warning: Swazis in Thread)"