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Offline Erich von Stahlhelm

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a question to the jews here in this forum..
« on: February 05, 2009, 04:19:14 PM »
hi fellows,

a question that i have about a thing that i dont understand is following thing.
in germany we have the "zentralrat der juden in deutschland" (central council of the jews in germany).
i think their work is mostly usefull for our society but in one thing i can understand them:
often when someone makes a harsh critic about islam in public they intervent and speak against it and the speak very hard against "discrimination and racism" an take party for the muslims, even when this "hatespeach" is only a legimate critic of islam and not racist [censored].
for me as a native german and non-jew, i can understand it only the half way.

its clear for me why they protest often, becaus some islam-critics come from the ultra-right political spectrum like the nazis from the NPD (national demokratic party of germany, a bunch of stupit revenants of the nsdap - they criticise islam, but underhanded they are in fact in contact to islamistic circles - antisemitism is the reason) and it is more than the right thing to protest against this scum because those fuckers dont stop with islam-critic, they are antisemitic too and try to make antisemitism acceptable, so i can understand the reaction.


but islam is not an religion, its an ideologie very similar to national-socialism and the quran of the muslims is for me like hitlers "mein kampf" - why did the jews help their biggest enemys in europe?
why the people from the central council didnt protest against islam?
why the take sides with the muslims?

a holocaust 2.0 in europes future is very possible in my opinion - but THIS time it will have its origin not by nazis, the germans or some other native europeans, it will come from the muslim immigrants and in this holocaust not only jews will die.

why dont they see this?
some years ago ariel sharon speaks with worry about the rapid growing muslim immigration to europe an the growing danger for the european jews that comes from this fact.
in fact, most of today antisemitic acts againts synagogues an other jewish facilities in europe have muslim origin.

i dont understand it.


greetings,

erich

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Re: a question to the jews here in this forum..
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2009, 04:25:44 PM »
Yes i heard about those Jews most are Bolsheviks or at least leftists that is their sick Ideology.Many NPD leaders are pro Islam they want support from the Islam like that fellow who was found  asking Iran for money.I forgot his name but he committed suicide he was so humiliated when the newspaper found out
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Re: a question to the jews here in this forum..
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2009, 04:56:18 PM »
Yes i heard about those Jews most are Bolsheviks or at least leftists that is their sick Ideology.Many NPD leaders are pro Islam they want support from the Islam like that fellow who was found  asking Iran for money.I forgot his name but he committed suicide he was so humiliated when the newspaper found out

every dead npd man is a good npd man!

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« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2009, 05:09:27 PM »
You think like a normal, sane person, how could the Zentralrat defend their greatest enemy. Well the Jews in that council are not normals, they are self-hating Jews. I despise them completely.

Everything you observe about the danger and the evil that is Islam is correct. People who has some common sense should stand against Islam and would not defend it.

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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2009, 05:19:30 PM »
Willkommen Erich,

If a Jew believes in something, he will serve it fervently and go with it till the end. Even when the others abandon it.

Zentralrat Jews are brainwashed by democracy propaganda. They believe in democracy and human rights, so they serve this idea even when it is obviously against them.

The Jews here at this forum are different :)
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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2009, 05:38:17 PM »
Perhaps you should introduce yourself in: http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php/board,4.0.html



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« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2009, 08:24:21 PM »
Willkommen Erich,

If a Jew believes in something, he will serve it fervently and go with it till the end. Even when the others abandon it.

Zentralrat Jews are brainwashed by democracy propaganda. They believe in democracy and human rights, so they serve this idea even when it is obviously against them.

The Jews here at this forum are different :)


I would love to see this on the Moslems  ~~~>            :nuke:

That is the only thing that will stop those BARBARIC NAZIS!



                                                           

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« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2009, 02:08:42 PM »
I have a German friend,a normal,sane person,who hates Nazislam. Now,he tried to support Israel in the internet,and they (the Commies) stopped him. I saw a Nazi "protest" in Germany (don't know what city) in Zootube,and I saw that the police does nothing about that.
These are the rules of "enlightened" people:
Talking bad about Islam = Racism,anti-democratic,inhuman,Fascism etc.
Talking [censored] about non-Muslim = Freedom of speech,legitimate.
I think that the people in this coucil are not normal,Communist and traitors. Maybe they are trying to create a good "image" of them so they would be considered "democratic","normal","not racist" etc. Sadly,a lot of Jewish people are the same,many of them are in Israel ("not all of the Muslims are bad,you're an extremist settler!"). Also,a lot of them are completely brainwashed by the liberal propaganda (human rights),and don't know anything about the true nature of the satan.

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« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2009, 02:59:33 PM »
I have a German friend,a normal,sane person,who hates Nazislam. Now,he tried to support Israel in the internet,and they (the Commies) stopped him. I saw a Nazi "protest" in Germany (don't know what city) in Zootube,and I saw that the police does nothing about that.
These are the rules of "enlightened" people:
Talking bad about Islam = Racism,anti-democratic,inhuman,Fascism etc.
Talking drek about non-Muslim = Freedom of speech,legitimate.
I think that the people in this coucil are not normal,Communist and traitors. Maybe they are trying to create a good "image" of them so they would be considered "democratic","normal","not racist" etc. Sadly,a lot of Jewish people are the same,many of them are in Israel ("not all of the Muslims are bad,you're an extremist settler!"). Also,a lot of them are completely brainwashed by the liberal propaganda (human rights),and don't know anything about the true nature of the satan.

Thank you dude! You have my fully support! All of you JTFers have my fully support!!

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Re: a question to the jews here in this forum..
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2009, 04:30:20 PM »
I have a German friend,a normal,sane person,who hates Nazislam. Now,he tried to support Israel in the internet,and they (the Commies) stopped him. I saw a Nazi "protest" in Germany (don't know what city) in Zootube,and I saw that the police does nothing about that.
These are the rules of "enlightened" people:
Talking bad about Islam = Racism,anti-democratic,inhuman,Fascism etc.
Talking drek about non-Muslim = Freedom of speech,legitimate.
I think that the people in this coucil are not normal,Communist and traitors. Maybe they are trying to create a good "image" of them so they would be considered "democratic","normal","not racist" etc. Sadly,a lot of Jewish people are the same,many of them are in Israel ("not all of the Muslims are bad,you're an extremist settler!"). Also,a lot of them are completely brainwashed by the liberal propaganda (human rights),and don't know anything about the true nature of the satan.

Thank you dude! You have my fully support! All of you JTFers have my fully support!! I will try to remove Islam! There is more and more hate in me!!  >:(  Down with Islam!!! One day I will kill more muslims as Baruch Goldstein the hero did!!

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« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2009, 04:34:06 PM »
I have Jewish origin from my mother side.

But my mother has from the father side:
- her father (my grandfather)
- and her mother's father (so my grandmother has Jewish line from her father side too)

So I am not Jewish in the Ortodox eyes, right?  :'(

But there are some religious view who accept me as Jew? Anyway I am good for aliyah, I have heard it, but I am 100% Pure Jew in my Heart!
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« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2009, 04:34:29 PM »
Yes Baruch Goldstein was a hero. I agree 100%
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« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2009, 06:30:06 AM »
I have Jewish origin from my mother side.

But my mother has from the father side:
- her father (my grandfather)
- and her mother's father (so my grandmother has Jewish line from her father side too)

So I am not Jewish in the Ortodox eyes, right?  :'(

But there are some religious view who accept me as Jew? Anyway I am good for aliyah, I have heard it, but I am 100% Pure Jew in my Heart!
Yes. 'Jewishness' passes from the maternal line according to Jewish tradition. From what you describe your mother is not Jewish because her mother is not.

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« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2009, 06:51:30 AM »
I find very upsetting that both the NPD and the French FN have a pro-Islamic and anti-Zionist tendency.

Actually, they cannot be true nationalists in view of this because it is hypocritical.

There must be people in Germany who is not so much of the collectivist mindset that they can see the folly in this.

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« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2009, 08:02:16 AM »
I find very upsetting that both the NPD and the French FN have a pro-Islamic and anti-Zionist tendency.

Actually, they cannot be true nationalists in view of this because it is hypocritical.

There must be people in Germany who is not so much of the collectivist mindset that they can see the folly in this.

They're both virulently anti American too; in case of France I woud vote UDF of the Philipe de Villers over Le Pen FN anytime. NPD is even worse it's plain nazi party camuflaged as Gross Duetchland/monarchist party to aviod Germany anti nazi laws.   
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13 'I will take away their harvest, declares the LORD. There will be no grapes on the vine. There will be no figs on the tree, and their leaves will wither. What I have given them will be taken from them.'

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« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2009, 08:14:23 AM »
I think Geert Wilders is the outstanding example to other right wing leadership in Europe. I believe his party carries no legacy of an old fascist or racist party.

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« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2009, 12:45:11 PM »

They're both virulently anti American too; in case of France I woud vote UDF of the Philipe de Villers over Le Pen FN anytime. NPD is even worse it's plain nazi party camuflaged as Gross Duetchland/monarchist party to aviod Germany anti nazi laws.   

Having been the original inspiration for the FN, British nationalists are now analysing the FNs failure...

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« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2009, 01:40:44 PM »
I have Jewish origin from my mother side.

But my mother has from the father side:
- her father (my grandfather)
- and her mother's father (so my grandmother has Jewish line from her father side too)

So I am not Jewish in the Ortodox eyes, right?  :'(

But there are some religious view who accept me as Jew? Anyway I am good for aliyah, I have heard it, but I am 100% Pure Jew in my Heart!
Yes. 'Jewishness' passes from the maternal line according to Jewish tradition. From what you describe your mother is not Jewish because her mother is not.

But being Israeli citizen, a Jewish grandparent is enough right? I heard it.  :o My mother's father 100% Jewish, his looking and his soul are Jewish too!
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« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2009, 01:47:17 PM »
I have Jewish origin from my mother side.

But my mother has from the father side:
- her father (my grandfather)
- and her mother's father (so my grandmother has Jewish line from her father side too)

So I am not Jewish in the Ortodox eyes, right?  :'(

But there are some religious view who accept me as Jew? Anyway I am good for aliyah, I have heard it, but I am 100% Pure Jew in my Heart!
Yes. 'Jewishness' passes from the maternal line according to Jewish tradition. From what you describe your mother is not Jewish because her mother is not.

But being Israeli citizen, a Jewish grandparent is enough right? I heard it.  :o My mother's father 100% Jewish, his looking and his soul are Jewish too!
That's right. You are entitled to Israeli citizenship based on the Israeli law of return.

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« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2009, 01:49:20 PM »
That's right. You are entitled to Israeli citizenship based on the Israeli law of return.

He could also undergo an Orthodox conversion.