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New Israeli tank defence system deployed
« on: December 20, 2010, 09:30:02 AM »
After the disaster of the Battle of Wadi Saluki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Wadi_Saluki
where Merkavas were hit like nine-pins by Russian Kornet missiles on the last day of the Lebanon War, it'll be interesting to see if the new Israeli anti-missile system is any good
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/idf-to-deploy-super-armored-tanks-along-gaza-border-1.331537


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Re: New Israeli tank defence system deployed
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2010, 09:37:28 AM »
After the disaster of the Battle of Wadi Saluki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Wadi_Saluki
where Merkavas were hit like nine-pins by Russian Kornet missiles on the last day of the Lebanon War, it'll be interesting to see if the new Israeli anti-missile system is any good
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/idf-to-deploy-super-armored-tanks-along-gaza-border-1.331537


THE AMERICANS HAD NO PROBLEMS DEALING WITH THE KORNET IN IRAQ.I think the U.S. military are better trained then the IDF
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Re: New Israeli tank defence system deployed
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2010, 10:00:04 AM »
That's why the Germans developed a new type of soldier, the Panzer Grenadier, who's sole job was to defend the tank by taking out the anti-tank infantry that threaten it. The Israelis have no such concept, for the same reason that they don't equip soldiers with bayonets in the IDF: "Because it's not Jewish!" (to expect Yiddishe boys to run alongside tanks)!

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Re: New Israeli tank defence system deployed
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2010, 10:09:09 AM »
Do you get off on posting pics of Nazi soldiers and their toys?

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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2010, 10:09:37 AM »
That's why the Germans developed a new type of soldier, the Panzer Grenadier, who's sole job was to defend the tank by taking out the anti-tank infantry that threaten it. The Israelis have no such concept, for the same reason that they don't equip soldiers with bayonets in the IDF: "Because it's not Jewish!" (to expect Yiddishe boys to run alongside tanks)!


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Re: New Israeli tank defence system deployed
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2010, 10:26:00 AM »
The israelis got their new Trophy(360 degree)

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Re: New Israeli tank defence system deployed
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2010, 10:40:55 AM »
Do you get off on posting pics of Nazi soldiers and their toys?

The Geman Nazis were Amolekites, the grandson of Esau, the great grandson of Yitzchok Avinu. Yitzchok "blessed" Esau "you will live by the sword" (Breishis 27) , and the Amolekite Germans and their "toys" exemplify the fulfilment of this brochoh.

Esau and his warlike descendants (eg Sparta, Rome, Thrace, Carthage, Mocha, Botzra, Anatolia, Germania etc) in Hashem's original Plan were meant to have been the fighting arm of the Am Yisrael, whereby we could have conquered & Judaized the entire world.

Unfortunately they became our sworn enemies.
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« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2010, 10:57:39 AM »
Do you get off on posting pics of Nazi soldiers and their toys?

The Geman Nazis were Amolekites, the grandson of Esau, the great grandson of Yitzchok Avinu. Yitzchok "blessed" Esau "you will live by the sword" (Breishis 27) , and the Amolekite Germans and their "toys" exemplify the fulfilment of this brochoh.

Esau and his warlike descendants (eg Sparta, Rome, Thrace, Carthage, Mocha, Botzra, Anatolia, Germania etc) in Hashem's original Plan were meant to have been the fighting arm of the Am Yisrael, whereby we could have conquered & Judaized the entire world.

Unfortunately they became our sworn enemies.
Correct Esau's head had the zachus to buried in the Maharas HaMachpala

http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php/topic,51736.0.html
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Re: New Israeli tank defence system deployed
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2010, 12:59:18 PM »

Thats the promo vid on the system trophy which is installed on all merkava 4's

All the other armored veichles will be installed withthe iron fist system



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Re: New Israeli tank defence system deployed
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2010, 01:30:49 PM »
That's why the Germans developed a new type of soldier, the Panzer Grenadier, who's sole job was to defend the tank by taking out the anti-tank infantry that threaten it. The Israelis have no such concept, for the same reason that they don't equip soldiers with bayonets in the IDF: "Because it's not Jewish!" (to expect Yiddishe boys to run alongside tanks)!



When the trophy system destroys any incoming missiles you DON'T WANT troops to be around the tanks, because they will get hit with debris!!!
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Re: New Israeli tank defence system deployed
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2010, 01:37:57 PM »
Earlier some armies were of the opinion that the active armor protection system were not much of use. But now the times have changed the modes of armored warfare. Trophy must be one among the best in world. 
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« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2010, 01:38:24 PM »

Esau and his warlike descendants (eg Sparta, Rome, Thrace, Carthage, Mocha, Botzra, Anatolia, Germania etc) in Hashem's original Plan were meant to have been the fighting arm of the Am Yisrael, whereby we could have conquered & Judaized the entire world.


So you're saying that Jews are commanded to conquer the world by the sword ?

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« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2010, 01:40:53 PM »


Let's hope it works, as even the smallest of these Russian ATGM missiles
http://warfare.ru/?lang=&linkid=1663&catid=261
opened up even heavily armoured Israeli Merkavas like tin cans as here


One thing Israel is not prepared to tolerate is high casualties. Whenever casualties mount, Israel folds, not out of cowardice, but out of leftist & liberal Jewish subversion and "life at any cost" twisted Haredi "pikuach nefesh" anti-Tenach-warrior ideals.

If it doesn't work, I predict that recruits are going to start to stop volunteering for the Israeli Armoured Corps, as to go up against these missiles is tantamount to literally going in your own iron coffin.
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« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2010, 01:56:54 PM »
David Hamelech and the Hasmoneans conquered the surrounding nations and forceably Judaized them.

If Esau, who according to the Kabbalists had the potential of being 1000 times greater than Yaakov, and his powerful descendants
had remained within the Camp of Israel, instead of becoming aYisroel mumar, great things could have been achieved.

Think of Esavian-Israelitish Roman Legions conquering the world for Torah! This almost happened when Roman Emperor Antoninus, the friend of Rebbe Yehudah, converted to Judaism.

So you're saying that Jews are commanded to conquer the world by the sword ?

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Re: New Israeli tank defence system deployed
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2010, 02:21:46 PM »
But Gd hadn't made it meant to be that way otherwise even with our free will, it would have happened.  Now Amalek is supposed to be blotted out.
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Re: New Israeli tank defence system deployed
« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2010, 02:47:13 PM »
That's why the Germans developed a new type of soldier, the Panzer Grenadier, who's sole job was to defend the tank by taking out the anti-tank infantry that threaten it. The Israelis have no such concept, for the same reason that they don't equip soldiers with bayonets in the IDF: "Because it's not Jewish!" (to expect Yiddishe boys to run alongside tanks)!



You continue to worship the german nazis, but I've read about battles in the Independence war, and there were described certain soldiers who were tasked with running out and hitting the antitank people, and there were also Jewish soldiers who ran at tanks with molotov cocktails and tried to take out tanks.   So if it's "not Jewish" to run alongside a tank, how is it "Jewish" to used improvised hand-held explosives to take out the enemy's tanks?    ::)

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Re: New Israeli tank defence system deployed
« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2010, 02:50:00 PM »
David Hamelech and the Hasmoneans conquered the surrounding nations and forceably Judaized them.
If Esau, who according to the Kabbalists had the potential of being 1000 times greater than Yaakov, and his powerful descendants
had remained within the Camp of Israel, instead of becoming aYisroel mumar, great things could have been achieved.
Think of Esavian-Israelitish Roman Legions conquering the world for Torah! This almost happened when Roman Emperor Antoninus, the friend of Rebbe Yehudah, converted to Judaism.

Where on earth does the Torah command us to engage in a military conquest of the entire world ?
We are supposed to gather in the Holy Land and form there a nation of priests that will be a light unto the nations, not to behave like Amalek !
"it is a people that shall dwell alone and shall not be reckoned among the nations" (Numbers 23)
The people of Israel is supposed to separate themselves from the nations of the world in order to create a Torah society. This is what the concepts of chosenness and holiness are about.


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Re: New Israeli tank defence system deployed
« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2010, 03:03:26 PM »

Actually, the Land of Israel itself does not even belong to the Jewish people. It belongs to G-d and He gave it to the Jewish people for a specific reason and under a specific condition. So we certainly have no entitlements to the rest of the world. We only have entitlements to the Land of Israel, moreover on condition that we behave righteously as true Torah Jews.

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« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2010, 03:14:16 PM »
Do you get off on posting pics of Nazi soldiers and their toys?

The Geman Nazis were Amolekites, the grandson of Esau, the great grandson of Yitzchok Avinu. Yitzchok "blessed" Esau "you will live by the sword" (Breishis 27) , and the Amolekite Germans and their "toys" exemplify the fulfilment of this brochoh.

Esau and his warlike descendants (eg Sparta, Rome, Thrace, Carthage, Mocha, Botzra, Anatolia, Germania etc) in Hashem's original Plan were meant to have been the fighting arm of the Am Yisrael, whereby we could have conquered & Judaized the entire world.

Unfortunately they became our sworn enemies.

There is no source that says we are to admire the Amalekites.    Obviously, you didn't cite what doesn't exist.

Not all sons of Esau are Amalekites!   There are many millions of Esau's descendants who are not Amaleki.   But you are fascinated and gushing over the Amalekites for some strange reason.  Could you tell us what that reason is?

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« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2010, 03:16:26 PM »
Do you get off on posting pics of Nazi soldiers and their toys?

The Geman Nazis were Amolekites, the grandson of Esau, the great grandson of Yitzchok Avinu. Yitzchok "blessed" Esau "you will live by the sword" (Breishis 27) , and the Amolekite Germans and their "toys" exemplify the fulfilment of this brochoh.

Esau and his warlike descendants (eg Sparta, Rome, Thrace, Carthage, Mocha, Botzra, Anatolia, Germania etc) in Hashem's original Plan were meant to have been the fighting arm of the Am Yisrael, whereby we could have conquered & Judaized the entire world.

Unfortunately they became our sworn enemies.
Correct Esau's head had the zachus to buried in the Maharas HaMachpala

http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php/topic,51736.0.html

LOL, his severed head.    Importantly, HE, Esau, as a whole being, did NOT merit to be buried there.   And that was precisely what the dispute was about!   This deed/merit lay with Yaakov and only yaakov.  It did not extend to Yitzhak's other son or to both sons.   The sages are asserting that along with the birthright that Esau sold to Yaakov, the right to burial in the place of his fathers in  Hevron came along with that.   I think you miss the point and distort the whole meaning by portraying it as "his head meriting to be buried there."   Btw, his head rolled into the grave, it wasn't placed there.   Think that's important?

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« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2010, 03:18:06 PM »
David Hamelech and the Hasmoneans conquered the surrounding nations and forceably Judaized them.

If Esau, ...and his powerful descendants
had remained within the Camp of Israel, instead of becoming aYisroel mumar,...

But Esau and they didn't.   We don't invent a new Torah.  We use the one we were given.

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« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2010, 03:18:59 PM »
The Biblical "Land of Israel" includes all of Lebanon, Syria, a chunk of Egypt, Jordan, parts of Iraq and Kuwait etc up to the Euphrates + the Mediterranean islands of Cyprus, Crete and others i.e. a good part of the then known world.

Yaakov's descendants were never strong enough to conquer all that.

With Esau's on their side, they could have.

Not forgetting that Yitzhok blessed Esau that he himself would inherit all of Italy.

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« Reply #22 on: December 20, 2010, 03:20:54 PM »
The Biblical "Land of Israel" includes all of Lebanon, Syria, a chunk of Egypt, Jordan, parts of Iraq and Kuwait etc up to the Euphrates + the Mediterranean islands of Cyprus, Crete and others i.e. a good part of the then known world.

Yaakov's descendants were never strong enough to conquer all that.

With Esau's on their side, they could have.

Not forgetting that Yitzhok blessed Esau himself with inheriting all of Italy.

But what didn't happen, didn't happen.   And what happened, happened.    We use the Torah we were given, not a hypothetical one that we make up on "what if's"

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« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2010, 03:21:07 PM »
There is no source that says we are to admire the Amalekites.    Obviously, you didn't cite what doesn't exist.

Not all sons of Esau are Amalekites!   There are many millions of Esau's descendants who are not Amaleki.   But you are fascinated and gushing over the Amalekites for some strange reason.  Could you tell us what that reason is?

Good question. And by the way, why won't you answer my question about your username ? Maybe I'm completely delusional and paranoid, but here is how I interpret your name.
1) "Wonga" is an old-fashioned word in British slang that means "money" and it is used by Nazis to refer to the money that Jews are supposed to have made out of what Nazis call "the Holohoax".
2) "66" refers to the 66 pseudo-objections raised by the IHR (Institute for Historical Review), a Nazi negationnist organization, against the reality of the Shoah.
Why do you pick a name that can be associated with a Nazi background ? Is it just a coincidence ? Were you not aware of it ? Did you mean something completely different ?


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« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2010, 03:25:15 PM »
Yes: you are delusional. 'Wonga' was my nickname at school, and the '66' was an option given to me by Hotmail 10 years ago!