The Worldwide Crisis of Islam > The Truth About Islam
What is going on here?!
Ehud:
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--- Quote from: Ze'ev Jabotinsky on July 10, 2007, 12:27:41 PM ---Yes saying that Judaism corrupted the Torah and that all the Prophets were originally Muslim and Judaism was originally actually Islam is not disrepectful at all.
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Of course someone saying that may upset Jews, but it's what the guy honestly believes, it's a core teaching of Islam. Rather than shouting and screaming at him, you should be proving to him why it can't possibly be the truth.
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You are a bit naive ftf. There is NO POSSIBLE WAY that we could EVER convince someone who has been indoctrinated into the Islamic faith that he is wrong short of kidnapping him and brainwashing him for a period of a few months. There is no need to try to convince, even the foremost experts in Christianity and Judaism could not convince him if given the chance. The only reason that we should attempt to "debate" him is to understand what the enemy thinks and how the enemy behaves.
ftf:
We convinced Sarah that Islam was wrong. My pressuring inserted enough doubt to eventually turn someone else I know from Islam as well. Furthermore if we have debates with muslims in which the muslims lose on display it will help to convince others that we are right about how evil Islam is.
Joe Schmo:
--- Quote from: ftf on July 10, 2007, 01:04:46 PM ---We convinced Sarah that Islam was wrong.
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Perhaps we did, I'm not totally sure.
Ehud:
The only way I would believe that someone was fully reformed from Islam is if they make a commitment to FULLY convert to either Christianity or Judaism and completely renounce Islam. Muslims are notorious for lying. Who knows why she is here claiming that she has renounced Islam but I do not see her renouncing Islam definitely and finally. She will probably find herself in Islam again.
ftf:
--- Quote from: Ze'ev Jabotinsky on July 10, 2007, 01:38:41 PM ---The only way I would believe that someone was fully reformed from Islam is if they make a commitment to FULLY convert to either Christianity or Judaism and completely renounce Islam. Muslims are notorious for lying. Who knows why she is here claiming that she has renounced Islam but I do not see her renouncing Islam definitely and finally. She will probably find herself in Islam again.
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She became a Noahide, and was at one point looking at converting to Judaism, I'm not quite suure what she is doing atm though.
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