The Worldwide Crisis of Islam > The Truth About Islam
What is going on here?!
jsullivan:
--- Quote from: newman on July 10, 2007, 03:32:19 AM ---With great respect, Jimmy ftf started it by telling me to shut up on the thread. In addition he was abusing his authority by deleting posts that don't violate JTF rules. He also demanded we all be 'civil' to a muslim-nazi.
I can also tell you that a lot of members are astounded that he is still a moderater after challeging Chaims ruling regarding missionising to Jews and continuing to assert his right to do so.........all after the July 01 Ask JTF when all this was clarrified. Obviously it's OK to say 'well I don't care what Chaim or Torah say, my religion says__________ so I'll do what I like'.
Jump on me if you want but I'm not Robinson Caruso here.Brace yourself for when the other members see this thread in the morning.
--- End quote ---
If that is what happened, then ftf acted improperly. Moderators should never act disrespectfully toward members unless the members are blatantly violating the forum's rules. Telling someone to "shut up" and deleting their posts does seem quite disrespectful. If a Muslim Nazi comes to this forum to tell us that Torah Judaism is a lie, then newman has every right to insult the Muslim Nazi.
ftf can debate the Muslim Nazi in his own way if he wishes. But we should respect forum members who want to debate in a more aggressive manner. After all, Islam is waging a terrorist war of mass murder against us.
I often tell Chaim about the arguments and disputes that go on here, and Chaim is surprised. He said that this occurs much less frequently on the Hebrew forum even though over 90% of the Hebrew forum members are teenagers. Maybe it's because on the English forum, we have so many different religions and ethnicities. On the Hebrew forum, 99% of the members are Jewish. And almost all of them are Israeli Jews.
Please, let's focus on the bigger picture: if we become a mass movement, G-d willing, we will be able to change history and make this a better world.
newman:
--- Quote from: jsullivan on July 10, 2007, 05:53:32 PM ---
--- Quote from: newman on July 10, 2007, 03:32:19 AM ---With great respect, Jimmy ftf started it by telling me to shut up on the thread. In addition he was abusing his authority by deleting posts that don't violate JTF rules. He also demanded we all be 'civil' to a muslim-nazi.
I can also tell you that a lot of members are astounded that he is still a moderater after challeging Chaims ruling regarding missionising to Jews and continuing to assert his right to do so.........all after the July 01 Ask JTF when all this was clarrified. Obviously it's OK to say 'well I don't care what Chaim or Torah say, my religion says__________ so I'll do what I like'.
Jump on me if you want but I'm not Robinson Caruso here.Brace yourself for when the other members see this thread in the morning.
--- End quote ---
If that is what happened, then ftf acted improperly. Moderators should never act disrespectfully toward members unless the members are blatantly violating the forum's rules. Telling someone to "shut up" and deleting their posts does seem quite disrespectful. If a Muslim Nazi comes to this forum to tell us that Torah Judaism is a lie, then newman has every right to insult the Muslim Nazi.
ftf can debate the Muslim Nazi in his own way if he wishes. But we should respect forum members who want to debate in a more aggressive manner. After all, Islam is waging a terrorist war of mass murder against us.
I often tell Chaim about the arguments and disputes that go on here, and Chaim is surprised. He said that this occurs much less frequently on the Hebrew forum even though over 90% of the Hebrew forum members are teenagers. Maybe it's because on the English forum, we have so many different religions and ethnicities. On the Hebrew forum, 99% of the members are Jewish. And almost all of them are Israeli Jews.
Please, let's focus on the bigger picture: if we become a mass movement, G-d willing, we will be able to change history and make this a better world.
--- End quote ---
Thankyou for clarifying the 1st half of my post Jimmy. Many of us are still in the dark re: the second half.
ftf:
I'm trying to let this die down, but I feel a need to defend myself this time.
The posts that I deleted, contained obscenities that cannot be appropriate for a forum that claims to be civilised.
And regarding respect, I can't respect someone who doesn't respect me, just like I can't tolerate Islam as it doesn't tolerate me.
As I am again being lambasted regarding my religion, let me say this, I am not involved in and have never been involved in preaching Christianity to Jews.
newman:
--- Quote from: ftf on July 10, 2007, 06:35:55 PM ---I'm trying to let this die down, but I feel a need to defend myself this time.
The posts that I deleted, contained obscenities that cannot be appropriate for a forum that claims to be civilised.
And regarding respect, I can't respect someone who doesn't respect me, just like I can't tolerate Islam as it doesn't tolerate me.
As I am again being lambasted regarding my religion, let me say this, I am not involved in and have never been involved in preaching Christianity to Jews.
--- End quote ---
Do you now state that you will NOT ever attempt to proselytise to, missionise to, or in any way attempt to convert any JEW in OR outside the forum, ftf?
Shlomo:
--- Quote from: ftf on July 10, 2007, 06:35:55 PM ---As I am again being lambasted regarding my religion, let me say this, I am not involved in and have never been involved in preaching Christianity to Jews.
--- End quote ---
I don't think he can be more clear than that. ftf does not believe in missionizing to Jews, if that's what you are worried about.
We will never tolerate missionizing to Jews on the forum (on or off) and we, certainly, wouldn't allow a moderator to stay in that position if they believed this. ftf and I have talked in detail and he shouldn't have to keep defending himself on this topic. He is respectful of the Jewish faith and the Jewish people, newman. His love for Israel is enormous.
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