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Ron Paul
« on: August 01, 2007, 11:42:11 AM »
Can Ron Paul really win? Does he have a snowball’s chance of becoming the next president, or are we all kidding ourselves?

At the moment, Rep. Paul’s quixotic campaign seems to be picking up steam. His recent fundraising statistics reveal a blossoming, internet-based movement that is uniting libertarians and other concerned citizens from across the political spectrum. His performance in the media has been sharp, and his organization seems to be honing its message.

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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2007, 01:18:54 PM »
Ron Paul is not my number one man, Tom Tancredo is.

But he does want to cut foreign aid to Israel, and believe it or not, JTF agrees with that position (it makes Israel dependent).  I'd support him over a leftist like McCain, but I'd still prefer someone like Romney or Tancredo.  I think he is soft on Iran.

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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2007, 01:42:27 PM »
Ron Paulistinian is a steaming, stinky TURD.

There's nothing quixotic, gallant or chivalrous about his campaign.

There's not a single problem in the Middle East that he doesn't blame on Israel or the USA.

Retard Ron thinks the answer to the Islamic agenda of jihad and genocide against the West/infidels is to expand trade, and talk and negotiate the moozies into submission. Paul's foreign policy boils down to a mixture of appeasement and semi-isolationism. Exactly what we don't need.

Ron Paulistinian is an irrational idealist in a dangerous world. His idealism would only bring death and destruction. He's a clueless buffoon.

Thankfully, the Paulistinian turd's chance of securing the Republican nomination is roughly equivalent to his IQ. That's a big fat ZERO.

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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2007, 02:38:01 PM »
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Retard Ron thinks the answer to the Islamic agenda of jihad and genocide against the West/infidels is to expand trade
Yes that is retarded.  We need to cut ourselves off from middle-eastern oil.

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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2007, 02:54:59 AM »
Ron Paul is unacceptable.

He's already declared that he finds it acceptable for Iran to have nuclear weapons.

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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2007, 02:58:25 AM »
Ron Paul is not my number one man, Tom Tancredo is.

But he does want to cut foreign aid to Israel, and believe it or not, JTF agrees with that position (it makes Israel dependent).  I'd support him over a leftist like McCain, but I'd still prefer someone like Romney or Tancredo.  I think he is soft on Iran.


Tancredo is a little too polarizing.  Duncan Hunter is more well-rounded than Tancredo. 

Hunter is responsible for having a fence built at the San Diego border.  Tancredo also had a good military record.  Furthermore, he supports "Fair Trade" rather than just "Free Trade".  He understands that China is currently engaged in illegal practices and using their trade advantage to aid militarily, enemies of the US.  Hunter also is in favor of judges who interpret laws like Scalia and Thomas rather than those who are activists.  Hunter is against wasting tax dollars. 

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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2007, 08:51:01 AM »
"Tancredo is a little too polarizing.  Duncan Hunter is more well-rounded than Tancredo. "

Don't know if either can get elected.  I will have to look more at Hunter's record.
Right now, Tom is my choice.
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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2007, 09:37:05 PM »
"Tancredo is a little too polarizing.  Duncan Hunter is more well-rounded than Tancredo. "

Don't know if either can get elected.  I will have to look more at Hunter's record.
Right now, Tom is my choice.



Here's a sample about Hunter:  http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1873980/posts


Hunter has been a loyal conservative for over a decade. 

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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2007, 02:00:24 AM »
Ron Paul's foreign policy is very dissapointing. i was very excited about his constitutional government. domestically he is great but obviously abroad he would be terrible.

BTW, Ron Paul would cut all foreign aid, not just to Israel. He would also supposedly not get involved in other countries problems. Hopefully that would mean someone like Slobbadan Milosivitch would be left to do what needs doing to islamo fascist nazis.

I also doubt RP would ever nuke another country :-(

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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2007, 11:33:59 AM »
"Tancredo is a little too polarizing.  Duncan Hunter is more well-rounded than Tancredo. "

Don't know if either can get elected.  I will have to look more at Hunter's record.
Right now, Tom is my choice.



Here's a sample about Hunter:  http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1873980/posts


Hunter has been a loyal conservative for over a decade. 

The problem with Hunter is his blind support for the Iraq War. He follows the Bush line that everything in Iraq is alright and Iraq will be a sprawling Muslim Democracy. Those comments make him look like a putz!
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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2007, 01:46:34 PM »
Can Ron Paul really win? Does he have a snowball’s chance of becoming the next president, or are we all kidding ourselves?

At the moment, Rep. Paul’s quixotic campaign seems to be picking up steam. His recent fundraising statistics reveal a blossoming, internet-based movement that is uniting libertarians and other concerned citizens from across the political spectrum. His performance in the media has been sharp, and his organization seems to be honing its message.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/latulippe/latulippe80.html

I don't like Paul, he is neither a hardliner on immigration, nor on Islam, nor on hommosexual rights. Tom Tancredo is my favorite. But the best would be Bush again.  8)

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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2007, 01:07:46 PM »
G-d man there is alot of people who want another bush in line but he sold us out  >:( i mean why vote for a person that can't handle the job. Bush went into iraq because he thought there were Weapons of Mass Destruction"there were no weapons of mass destruction"would you vote for a president who is lazy and only focus on one thing except focusing on USA problems. If the founding fathers of the country came back from the dead they would say we need another revolution.goodevil
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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2007, 12:21:04 AM »
G-d man there is alot of people who want another bush in line but he sold us out  >:( i mean why vote for a person that can't handle the job. Bush went into iraq because he thought there were Weapons of Mass Destruction*there were no weapons of mass destructionwould you vote for a president who is lazy and only focus on one thing except focusing on USA problems. If the founding fathers of the country came back from the dead they would say we need another revolution.goodevil

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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2007, 12:11:35 PM »

Mental asylums have computers and internet? I didn't know that!

Silly leftist!

Excuse me I'm a person who believes in freedom and in the constitution, and a person who is equal to the people. turning United States of America into communist leaves it to be separate states of America. I'm thinking your a bush supporter and thinks invading Iraq was a good idea(who would think that Iraq had WMD bush told the UNSC= united nation security council that he thinks there are WMD but there was not) so why are we over here for..? nothing bush wants to finish his father's job.bush is always lazy and lets Dick Cheney rule the country. sorry to say I'm not a leftist I'm a person who respects the constitution and a person like Thomas Jefferson. even though Republicans are bad(sometimes there is fascist in republicans) Democrats are the worse and sometimes they usually fall behind socialist.do your homework before making your decisions. take this test http://www.okcupid.com/politics it will tell you where you stand in the line of things.
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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2007, 12:26:12 PM »
warlord 2080:  "...i'm not a leftist i'm a person who respects the constitution and a person like Thomas Jefferson..."

JTF's leader, Chaim Ben Pesach, in his audio presentations shortly after 9/11, repeatedly castigated Bush & his administration for going after Iraq rather than Iran & the other true terror states.

So...warlord 2080, it seems that your position on our ridiculous war in Iraq is 100% spot-on, and in total accord with the same position of Chaim Ben Pesach & other loyal JTF followers & members.

For those here who find fault with my stated opinions, I suggest you dig into the JTF audio archives and listen to Chaim Ben Pesach's correct and intelligent observations...long before Bush actually invaded Iraq, Chaim warned that he was making the most idiotic and foolish mistake in American history.

Five years later, with untold cost in blood, treasury, and American security, Bush remains trapped in the quagmire created out of his administration's stupidity and greed.

And...America is each passing minute more resembling the former Communist East Germany and Soviet Union than "The Land of the Free, Home of the Brave".

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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2007, 01:05:18 PM »
Ron Paul fits into a libertarian party petty well.  if you choose a libertarian group the only thing  it limits on is government control.

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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2007, 02:32:45 PM »

Mental asylums have computers and internet? I didn't know that!

Silly leftist!

Excuse me I'm a person who believes in freedom and in the constitution, and a person who is equal to the people. turning United States of America into communist leaves it to be separate states of America. I'm thinking your a bush supporter and thinks invading Iraq was a good idea(who would think that Iraq had WMD bush told the UNSC= united nation security council that he thinks there are WMD but there was not) so why are we over here for..? nothing bush wants to finish his father's job.bush is always lazy and lets Dick Cheney rule the country. sorry to say I'm not a leftist I'm a person who respects the constitution and a person like Thomas Jefferson. even though Republicans are bad(sometimes there is fascist in republicans) Democrats are the worse and sometimes they usually fall behind socialist.do your homework before making your decisions. take this test http://www.okcupid.com/politics it will tell you where you stand in the line of things.

I don't fall for that lie. All you Ron Paul supporters, if someone says something good about another candidate you guys give them a thumbs down on YouTube or you try to bury it on Digg. Ron Paul was against intervention and he is against dealing with North Korea and he was against dealing with Russia, which makes him the damn communist you stupid leftist. Screw Thomas Jefferson, hes a [censored] bag atheist and so is Ron Paul. Don't tell me to take the okcupid test you moron, that thing is so rigged, there is Democrat, Libertarian, Facist, and Totalitarian, that test is so rigged and its perfect for Lefist like you.

I'm tired of this forum, seems like you are all just leftist. You guys seem to be siding on the people who will let Iran get a nuclear bomb instead of standing against it. Lets look at the Middle East, Iraq is next to Iran, its a strategic point in a war against Iran. Maybe you guys should learn before you guys go talking about invading Iran and complaining about us being in Iraq.
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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2007, 03:36:39 PM »
alright let the CFR win let Hillary win and by others let the United States constituiton fall i don't care :::D I'll be moving to another country when that happens. BUT BEFORE I LEAVE JTF.ORG'S FORUM I HAVE A VIDEO OF RON PAUL SPEAKING TO CONGRESS LISTEN TO HIS SPEECH.
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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2007, 02:56:19 AM »
alright let the CFR win let Hillary win and by others let the United States constituiton fall i don't care :::D I'll be moving to another country when that happens. BUT BEFORE I LEAVE JTF.ORG'S FORUM I HAVE A VIDEO OF RON PAUL SPEAKING TO CONGRESS LISTEN TO HIS SPEECH.

Please leave.
I'll send you a postcard.
What country are you moving to ?


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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2007, 10:02:55 AM »

Mental asylums have computers and internet? I didn't know that!

Silly leftist!

Excuse me I'm a person who believes in freedom and in the constitution, and a person who is equal to the people. turning United States of America into communist leaves it to be separate states of America. I'm thinking your a bush supporter and thinks invading Iraq was a good idea(who would think that Iraq had WMD bush told the UNSC= united nation security council that he thinks there are WMD but there was not) so why are we over here for..? nothing bush wants to finish his father's job.bush is always lazy and lets Dick Cheney rule the country. sorry to say I'm not a leftist I'm a person who respects the constitution and a person like Thomas Jefferson. even though Republicans are bad(sometimes there is fascist in republicans) Democrats are the worse and sometimes they usually fall behind socialist.do your homework before making your decisions. take this test http://www.okcupid.com/politics it will tell you where you stand in the line of things.

I don't fall for that lie. All you Ron Paul supporters, if someone says something good about another candidate you guys give them a thumbs down on YouTube or you try to bury it on Digg. Ron Paul was against intervention and he is against dealing with North Korea and he was against dealing with Russia, which makes him the damn communist you stupid leftist. Screw Thomas Jefferson, hes a [censored] bag atheist and so is Ron Paul. Don't tell me to take the okcupid test you moron, that thing is so rigged, there is Democrat, Libertarian, Facist, and Totalitarian, that test is so rigged and its perfect for Lefist like you.

I'm tired of this forum, seems like you are all just leftist. You guys seem to be siding on the people who will let Iran get a nuclear bomb instead of standing against it. Lets look at the Middle East, Iraq is next to Iran, its a strategic point in a war against Iran. Maybe you guys should learn before you guys go talking about invading Iran and complaining about us being in Iraq.

Our founding fathers were against intervention as well.

Screw Thomas Jefferson? Then kindly get the hell out of America since you don't respect one of the founding fathers who made this country what it is today. I'm sure you support gun control too? The only leftist here is you. Go read up on Ron Paul, he is a right wing paleoconservative.

he constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that... it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
--Thomas Jefferson to John Cartwright, 1824.

"One loves to possess arms, though they hope never to have occasion for them."
--Thomas Jefferson to George Washington, 1796. ME 9:341

"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives a moderate exercise to the Body, it gives boldness, enterprise, and independence to the mind . . . Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks."
--Thomas Jefferson, Letter to his nephew Peter Carr, August 19, 1785.

"No freeman shall be debarred the use of arms (within his own lands or tenements)."
--Thomas Jefferson: Draft Virginia Constitution with (his note added), 1776. Papers, 1:353

"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms . . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes . . . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
--Thomas Jefferson, quoting Cesare Beccaria in On Crimes and Punishment (1764).
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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2007, 10:16:19 AM »
 >:( My own country that makes sense but not supporting bush's administration or any other things between freedom and tyranny.  WE DO NOT SUPPORT BLIND PATRIOTISM NOR BLIND FREEDOM BY THE CFR OR PEOPLE WHO WANTS MONEY. you must understand why a doctor got into politics. are people afraid are people afraid that if Ron Paul becomes president that he will be shot just like JFK. hmm Thomas Jefferson third president of the united states by aggression was an atheist heres what i have grabbed up from information. He was a deist but why bother on president based on religion, but you got to see what made him so great. why didn't united states fall under his presidency?well you find out why. I'm going with it not against constitution and freedom. we are already experiencing the domino theory. Lets face facts from fiction, the big governments controls people lives most of the time. Invading of Iraq was against an act of the united states nor bush has any authorization to use force. he didn't go to the congress instead he went to the UNSC to say that there was weapons of mass destruction(in  consideration there was no weapons of mass destruction). we have been borrowing from countries like China to pay our expenses. in a few years China will say no we will not pay for your expenses(starting of the nuclear  war). United States will assume that china is leaving the UN and say if you don't support US we will act accordingly. On to our way to nuclear war to think your right but your wrong. Now this is why i don't support CFR nor thinking that Bush's decision was right.
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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #21 on: October 22, 2007, 09:00:32 PM »

Mental asylums have computers and internet? I didn't know that!

Silly leftist!

Excuse me I'm a person who believes in freedom and in the constitution, and a person who is equal to the people. turning United States of America into communist leaves it to be separate states of America. I'm thinking your a bush supporter and thinks invading Iraq was a good idea(who would think that Iraq had WMD bush told the UNSC= united nation security council that he thinks there are WMD but there was not) so why are we over here for..? nothing bush wants to finish his father's job.bush is always lazy and lets Dick Cheney rule the country. sorry to say I'm not a leftist I'm a person who respects the constitution and a person like Thomas Jefferson. even though Republicans are bad(sometimes there is fascist in republicans) Democrats are the worse and sometimes they usually fall behind socialist.do your homework before making your decisions. take this test http://www.okcupid.com/politics it will tell you where you stand in the line of things.

I don't fall for that lie. All you Ron Paul supporters, if someone says something good about another candidate you guys give them a thumbs down on YouTube or you try to bury it on Digg. Ron Paul was against intervention and he is against dealing with North Korea and he was against dealing with Russia, which makes him the damn communist you stupid leftist. Screw Thomas Jefferson, hes a [censored] bag atheist and so is Ron Paul. Don't tell me to take the okcupid test you moron, that thing is so rigged, there is Democrat, Libertarian, Facist, and Totalitarian, that test is so rigged and its perfect for Lefist like you.

I'm tired of this forum, seems like you are all just leftist. You guys seem to be siding on the people who will let Iran get a nuclear bomb instead of standing against it. Lets look at the Middle East, Iraq is next to Iran, its a strategic point in a war against Iran. Maybe you guys should learn before you guys go talking about invading Iran and complaining about us being in Iraq.

Our founding fathers were against intervention as well.

Screw Thomas Jefferson? Then kindly get the hell out of America since you don't respect one of the founding fathers who made this country what it is today. I'm sure you support gun control too? The only leftist here is you. Go read up on Ron Paul, he is a right wing paleoconservative.

he constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that... it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
--Thomas Jefferson to John Cartwright, 1824.

"One loves to possess arms, though they hope never to have occasion for them."
--Thomas Jefferson to George Washington, 1796. ME 9:341

"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives a moderate exercise to the Body, it gives boldness, enterprise, and independence to the mind . . . Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks."
--Thomas Jefferson, Letter to his nephew Peter Carr, August 19, 1785.

"No freeman shall be debarred the use of arms (within his own lands or tenements)."
--Thomas Jefferson: Draft Virginia Constitution with (his note added), 1776. Papers, 1:353

"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms . . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes . . . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
--Thomas Jefferson, quoting Cesare Beccaria in On Crimes and Punishment (1764).

Yeah I hate guns, thats why I joined the Marine Corp and I'm going to be going in winter to do E&E to finish my Force Recon training.
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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #22 on: October 22, 2007, 09:27:15 PM »
Hillary will win,so we better get used to it.Unless she beats a baby to death or robs a liquor store or something as dumb as that ,She will win. :(

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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #23 on: October 22, 2007, 10:16:32 PM »
well look at the watergate scandal on Richard Nixon i think she is rigging the votes to be president.

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Re: Ron Paul
« Reply #24 on: October 22, 2007, 10:17:27 PM »
Sorry , I wish I was wrong!