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Frodo

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Hello from Germany aswell
« on: October 15, 2007, 05:12:57 PM »
Hello together,

first of all sorry for my horrible english !

I'm also a reader (not member) from "die gruene Pest"
I found your Forum very good and informativ.

afther reading the posts from "Goldfasan and German Christ" it is sad for me to see
that we are not really accepted, certainly I understand.

I only wanted to say one thing, we (Jewish and Cristians) living in a time we have to fight
for the future of us and our children against an islamic world how's complitly crazy and have only in mind to eradicate us.
there is really no time to bring up hitler,nazis etc.don't misunderstand me, but this was happened im ww2 we are not able to turn back we have to accept allthe hate does't make any
person make alive. you can forgive but not forget, this is clear.

If we want to have a future the only way is stay together, otherwise we will lose this fight against the "muselmurder"

greetings

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Re: Hello from Germany aswell
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2007, 05:16:43 PM »
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we (Jewish and Cristians) living in a time we have to fight

You are correct in this statement, the entire non muslim world must come together if we are to defeat what is facing us.  We need to work together, islam has been at war in one way or another with the civilized world for 1400 years, we need to finish it once and for all.
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Re: Hello from Germany aswell
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2007, 05:36:29 PM »
You are very welcome
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Re: Hello from Germany aswell
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2007, 07:45:53 PM »
Hello Frodo. What is your nickname at Grüne-Pest? Please tell me, before i welcome you.
« Last Edit: October 15, 2007, 08:19:12 PM by Goldfasan »
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Re: Hello from Germany aswell
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2007, 08:14:17 PM »
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Re: Hello from Germany aswell
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2007, 08:33:35 PM »
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Re: Hello from Germany aswell
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2007, 08:40:43 PM »
Sorry. I have not readed your text well. My question is done.
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Re: Hello from Germany aswell
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2007, 08:41:34 PM »
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Re: Hello from Germany aswell
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2007, 10:19:30 PM »
Welcome to the forum!
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Re: Hello from Germany aswell
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2007, 10:52:30 PM »
A concept like guilt by association can be taken too far, and I believe some people do that with Germans...on the other hand, skepticism is perfectly natural.

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Re: Hello from Germany aswell
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2007, 10:16:38 AM »
You are very welcome, Frodo.
Enjoy while you are here.
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Re: Hello from Germany aswell
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2007, 10:35:14 AM »
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Re: Hello from Germany aswell
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2007, 10:58:01 AM »
  Wellcome to the forum!!
The whole system works because everyone is not mentally ill on the same day!!!!

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Re: Hello from Germany aswell
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2007, 04:49:43 PM »
frodo:
"I only wanted to say one thing, we (Jewish and Cristians) living in a time we have to fight
for the future of us and our children against an islamic world how's complitly crazy and have only in mind to eradicate us."

 :o

NAZICRIMES WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN AND FORGIVEN.

 >:(

It was a time for SURVIVING for serbs and Jews,
during WWII,
when facing NAZIGERMANS AND THEIR NAZIHYENAS.

We Serbs and Jews had DEFINITELY to fight for the future of us and our children against GERMANAZIS.

This completely crazy islamic world is being helped by germany nowadays.
In Serbian kosovo, alongside with ALBANAZIS.
Serbian churches were destroyed mainly there,
where the UN germans were "expected" to protect them.
In Bosnia, alongside BOSNOMUSLIMNAZIS.
In the ghaza "stripe", for instance, supplying balestinians with food if not with weapons.

You germanazis, whatever the fate of your unterland,
you did whatever it took to bring it in the position it is now.

ON WHICH FORUM WOULD YOU SEEK HELP,
IF YOU SUCCEEDED IN EXTERMINATING SERBS AND JEWS, AMONG MANY OTHERS ?

GO CRY IN KROATENFORUM !

 >:( >:( >:(

I'm angry, I know.

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Re: Hello from Germany aswell
« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2007, 05:49:34 PM »
Thank you all for the welcome

I'm just reading thru the forum, with the dictionary by myside ;D

Sceptic about my person is ok, I would do the same.

However, for some years I'm interesstet to know more about jewishness.
Long time we get every three months a little booklet, called "Freund" for free
I really can't remember why, it's from Switzerland,publisher is "Charles Reichenbach"
It's about how to live as a christian and how we are related to Israel.
There are also news about Israel.
Reichenbach is also organising Holidays and biblecourses in Israel.

I have read many Homepages about Israel and find it is a wonderfull and holy Country
One day,I hope our family can spend a holiday in Israel, it's my little dream to see the holy Land.

The reason why I'm reading gruene Pest or ffi is my deepest aversion against Islam and Muslims.
In the meantime I know a lot of this "Sect" it isn't just a religion, if you study their habits you only can come to the conclusion it has the caracter of a Sect, a deadly Sect,destroying not only themselfs and the nature (look at the Countries were they live in the majority),they are also like parasites, coming to
cultures which are rich an education, money,infrastructure and suck them away, let back a burned out
country full of idiots.
Like the mentality of the foudner mohamed all his life he did or tried to do like this, untill today his fellows do
it in the same way.

My kids will not live in a maniac World of "Musels", therfore I have to fight, ask for help and give help.

greetings





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Re: Hello from Germany aswell
« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2007, 06:04:29 PM »
frodo:
"I only wanted to say one thing, we (Jewish and Cristians) living in a time we have to fight
for the future of us and our children against an islamic world how's complitly crazy and have only in mind to eradicate us."

 :o

NAZICRIMES WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN AND FORGIVEN.

 >:(

It was a time for SURVIVING for serbs and Jews,
during WWII,
when facing NAZIGERMANS AND THEIR NAZIHYENAS.

We Serbs and Jews had DEFINITELY to fight for the future of us and our children against GERMANAZIS.

This completely crazy islamic world is being helped by germany nowadays.
In Serbian kosovo, alongside with ALBANAZIS.
Serbian churches were destroyed mainly there,
where the UN germans were "expected" to protect them.
In Bosnia, alongside BOSNOMUSLIMNAZIS.
In the ghaza "stripe", for instance, supplying balestinians with food if not with weapons.

You germanazis, whatever the fate of your unterland,
you did whatever it took to bring it in the position it is now.

ON WHICH FORUM WOULD YOU SEEK HELP,
IF YOU SUCCEEDED IN EXTERMINATING SERBS AND JEWS, AMONG MANY OTHERS ?

GO CRY IN KROATENFORUM !

 >:( >:( >:(

I'm angry, I know.



@Husar

I'm not a Politican, neither 1933 nor todays, but times will change, this is certain.
And in that time I will be Involved.

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Re: Hello from Germany aswell
« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2007, 09:29:28 AM »
frodo:
"I only wanted to say one thing, we (Jewish and Cristians) living in a time we have to fight
for the future of us and our children against an islamic world how's complitly crazy and have only in mind to eradicate us."

 :o

NAZICRIMES WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN AND FORGIVEN.

 >:(

It was a time for SURVIVING for serbs and Jews,
during WWII,
when facing NAZIGERMANS AND THEIR NAZIHYENAS.

We Serbs and Jews had DEFINITELY to fight for the future of us and our children against GERMANAZIS.

This completely crazy islamic world is being helped by germany nowadays.
In Serbian kosovo, alongside with ALBANAZIS.
Serbian churches were destroyed mainly there,
where the UN germans were "expected" to protect them.
In Bosnia, alongside BOSNOMUSLIMNAZIS.
In the ghaza "stripe", for instance, supplying balestinians with food if not with weapons.

You germanazis, whatever the fate of your unterland,
you did whatever it took to bring it in the position it is now.

ON WHICH FORUM WOULD YOU SEEK HELP,
IF YOU SUCCEEDED IN EXTERMINATING SERBS AND JEWS, AMONG MANY OTHERS ?

GO CRY IN KROATENFORUM !

 >:( >:( >:(

I'm angry, I know.


Calm down, most of the europeans took part in the Holocuast, as the Polish people,
the Frenchs,
The Austrians,
The Romanians,
The Hungrians.
The Italians
And more, so if you are angry about the Germans, get angry at all of the people I listed above.
Not a foreign land we took and not with foreign possession but a land that belong to our ancestors that was occupied without a trial. And when we had the opportunity, we took our land back.
-Shimon Maccabee's answer to Antiochus VII Sidetes.

"When fighting monsters, be wary not to become one... When you gaze into the abyss, it also gazes into you."
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Re: Hello from Germany aswell
« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2007, 10:05:48 AM »
Which nation invented national socialism?
Which nation voted hitler into power?
Which nation is responsible for the nuremburg laws?
Which nation decided on the "final solution"?
In which nation did kristalnacht occur?
Which nation came up with the idea of concentration camps, death camps, gas chambers and crematoria?
Which nation rampaged through europe to collect and deport all of the Jews to their deaths?
Which nation had little to no resistance against the nazis?
Which nation initiated "medical expirementation" on humans in the most barbaric and inhumane ways?
Which nation was ultimately responsible for the Holocaust?

If it weren't for the germans, would any of the other countries you listed ended up doing what they did? I'm not against pro-Jewish, pro-Israel germans who are sincere, I am against the whitewashing of history in making the germans seem less responsible than they really are for what they did to our people.


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Re: Hello from Germany aswell
« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2007, 10:47:26 AM »
frodo:
"I only wanted to say one thing, we (Jewish and Cristians) living in a time we have to fight
for the future of us and our children against an islamic world how's complitly crazy and have only in mind to eradicate us."

 :o

NAZICRIMES WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN AND FORGIVEN.

 >:(

It was a time for SURVIVING for serbs and Jews,
during WWII,
when facing NAZIGERMANS AND THEIR NAZIHYENAS.

We Serbs and Jews had DEFINITELY to fight for the future of us and our children against GERMANAZIS.

This completely crazy islamic world is being helped by germany nowadays.
In Serbian kosovo, alongside with ALBANAZIS.
Serbian churches were destroyed mainly there,
where the UN germans were "expected" to protect them.
In Bosnia, alongside BOSNOMUSLIMNAZIS.
In the ghaza "stripe", for instance, supplying balestinians with food if not with weapons.

You germanazis, whatever the fate of your unterland,
you did whatever it took to bring it in the position it is now.

ON WHICH FORUM WOULD YOU SEEK HELP,
IF YOU SUCCEEDED IN EXTERMINATING SERBS AND JEWS, AMONG MANY OTHERS ?

GO CRY IN KROATENFORUM !

 >:( >:( >:(

I'm angry, I know.


Calm down, most of the europeans took part in the Holocuast, as the Polish people,
the Frenchs,
The Austrians,
The Romanians,
The Hungrians.
The Italians
And more, so if you are angry about the Germans, get angry at all of the people I listed above.

Yes we Poles were so anti semitic that good germans came to rescue Polish Jews and thats Why they killed 3 milions Polish Chritians. And then the Jews all comitted suicide; Yes holocaust happen in the Poland not Denmark but not becouse we were such jew-haters - Why do you think all those Jews lived in Poland in first place; but becouse Poland with half of European Jewry was situated in the centre of Europe and it was easier and cheaper for nazi gemans who were practicall people to bring the other half of Jews to OCUPAIED Poland. We coud bow to hitler demand and give our Jews in exchange to peace like Hungarians did but we choosed to fight instead; While England France and USA with American Jewry watched silently the Polish expatriot soldiers and resictance including jewish fighters fought against most brutal and inhumane ocupation in all times . Few bomb raids on gass chambers and crematoria or rail lines coud recue houndred of thousands people; The High and mighty West who sold us later to Stalin in Yalta did nothing despite protest from polish goverment in London and despite reports from Warsaw Ghetto and Treblinka done by Jan Karski since 1942; alies choosed to not see; so after 1945  they started to call us all antisemites to ease their concience after 1939 and 1945 betrayals. But we shoud always blame germans becouse without them and their 99% support to rascist evil pagan nazi aryan ideology there woud be no holocaust.       
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11 They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. Peace, peace, they say, when there is no peace.

12 Are they ashamed of their loathsome conduct? No, they have no shame at all; they do not even know how to blush. So they will fall among the fallen; they will be brought down when they are punished, says the LORD.

13 'I will take away their harvest, declares the LORD. There will be no grapes on the vine. There will be no figs on the tree, and their leaves will wither. What I have given them will be taken from them.'

14 Why are we sitting here? Gather together! Let us flee to the fortified cities and perish there! For the LORD our God has doomed us to perish and given us poisoned water to drink, because we have sinned against him.

15 We hoped for peace but no good has come, for a time of healing but there was only terror.

16 The snorting of the enemy's horses is heard from Dan; at the neighing of their stallions the whole land trembles. They have come to devour the land and everything in it, the city and all who live there.

17 See, I will send venomous snakes among you, vipers that cannot be charmed, and they will bite you, declares the LORD.

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Re: Hello from Germany aswell
« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2007, 11:39:14 AM »
frodo:
"I only wanted to say one thing, we (Jewish and Cristians) living in a time we have to fight
for the future of us and our children against an islamic world how's complitly crazy and have only in mind to eradicate us."

 :o

NAZICRIMES WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN AND FORGIVEN.

 >:(

It was a time for SURVIVING for serbs and Jews,
during WWII,
when facing NAZIGERMANS AND THEIR NAZIHYENAS.

We Serbs and Jews had DEFINITELY to fight for the future of us and our children against GERMANAZIS.

This completely crazy islamic world is being helped by germany nowadays.
In Serbian kosovo, alongside with ALBANAZIS.
Serbian churches were destroyed mainly there,
where the UN germans were "expected" to protect them.
In Bosnia, alongside BOSNOMUSLIMNAZIS.
In the ghaza "stripe", for instance, supplying balestinians with food if not with weapons.

You germanazis, whatever the fate of your unterland,
you did whatever it took to bring it in the position it is now.

ON WHICH FORUM WOULD YOU SEEK HELP,
IF YOU SUCCEEDED IN EXTERMINATING SERBS AND JEWS, AMONG MANY OTHERS ?

GO CRY IN KROATENFORUM !

 >:( >:( >:(

I'm angry, I know.


Calm down, most of the europeans took part in the Holocuast, as the Polish people,
the Frenchs,
The Austrians,
The Romanians,
The Hungrians.
The Italians
And more, so if you are angry about the Germans, get angry at all of the people I listed above.

Yes we Poles were so anti semitic that good germans came to rescue Polish Jews and thats Why they killed 3 milions Polish Chritians. And then the Jews all comitted suicide; Yes holocaust happen in the Poland not Denmark but not becouse we were such jew-haters - Why do you think all those Jews lived in Poland in first place; but becouse Poland with half of European Jewry was situated in the centre of Europe and it was easier and cheaper for nazi gemans who were practicall people to bring the other half of Jews to OCUPAIED Poland. We coud bow to hitler demand and give our Jews in exchange to peace like Hungarians did but we choosed to fight instead; While England France and USA with American Jewry watched silently the Polish expatriot soldiers and resictance including jewish fighters fought against most brutal and inhumane ocupation in all times . Few bomb raids on gass chambers and crematoria or rail lines coud recue houndred of thousands people; The High and mighty West who sold us later to Stalin in Yalta did nothing despite protest from polish goverment in London and despite reports from Warsaw Ghetto and Treblinka done by Jan Karski since 1942; alies choosed to not see; so after 1945  they started to call us all antisemites to ease their concience after 1939 and 1945 betrayals. But we shoud always blame germans becouse without them and their 99% support to rascist evil pagan nazi aryan ideology there woud be no holocaust.       
You killed 1-3 milions of Jews, and after the war ended you massacared the Jews who left (, I don't blame you for that, I don't blame the whole Poles, I don't blame today's poles.

*Jedwabne pogrom (Polish)
*Kielce pogrom (Polish)
*Legionnaires' rebellion and Bucharest pogrom (Hungarian)
*Lviv pogroms (Polish)
*Kristallnacht (German)
*Kaunas pogrom (Lithuanian)
*Iaşi pogrom (Romanian)

And more and more....
Not a foreign land we took and not with foreign possession but a land that belong to our ancestors that was occupied without a trial. And when we had the opportunity, we took our land back.
-Shimon Maccabee's answer to Antiochus VII Sidetes.

"When fighting monsters, be wary not to become one... When you gaze into the abyss, it also gazes into you."
- Friedrich Nietzsche

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Re: Hello from Germany aswell
« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2007, 01:09:32 PM »
The difference is that a few Poles collaborated, but Polish people as a group did not harm Jews.  By that standard, Jews also were involved in the holocaust (by killing other Jews), as yes, self-hating Jews did aid it.  Romanians overthrew their anti-Jew regime before the war ended.  On the other hand, Germans never overthrew Hitler, and had support accross the population.

The Polish community as a group was certainly not an agent in the holocaust, anything else is revisionism.
« Last Edit: October 17, 2007, 01:11:14 PM by EagleEye »

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« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2007, 01:18:40 PM »
You are right ultra.My mother always said the Poles hearts were in the right place at the wrong time.And dam they tried to fight the sickness called nazis!They just had no chance....

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Re: Hello from Germany aswell
« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2007, 02:36:41 PM »
The difference is that a few Poles collaborated, but Polish people as a group did not harm Jews.  By that standard, Jews also were involved in the holocaust (by killing other Jews), as yes, self-hating Jews did aid it.  Romanians overthrew their anti-Jew regime before the war ended.  On the other hand, Germans never overthrew Hitler, and had support accross the population.

The Polish community as a group was certainly not an agent in the holocaust, anything else is revisionism.
The fact that the romanians had antisimetic regime don't mean that the Romanian were antisimetics as a group, the facts are that some Romanians killed Jews, some Poles killed Jews, some Jews killed Jews, some Germans killed Jews and so on. Therefor I can't blame a whole people for being antisimetic, besides, there were also anti-Nazi German plot, and anti-Nazi groups, so...?
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Re: Hello from Germany aswell
« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2007, 03:01:38 PM »
The difference is that a few Poles collaborated, but Polish people as a group did not harm Jews.  By that standard, Jews also were involved in the holocaust (by killing other Jews), as yes, self-hating Jews did aid it.  Romanians overthrew their anti-Jew regime before the war ended.  On the other hand, Germans never overthrew Hitler, and had support accross the population.

The Polish community as a group was certainly not an agent in the holocaust, anything else is revisionism.
The fact that the romanians had antisimetic regime don't mean that the Romanian were antisimetics as a group, the facts are that some Romanians killed Jews, some Poles killed Jews, some Jews killed Jews, some Germans killed Jews and so on. Therefor I can't blame a whole people for being antisimetic, besides, there were also anti-Nazi German plot, and anti-Nazi groups, so...?

Yes Dexter in July 1944; after D-Day and Bagration when they realised the war is lost for Germany; so they tried to kill him to reduce the loses; for ex; untill 1942 von Staufenberg was nazi Only man who was from start against nazism was admiral Canaris and his Shwartze Kappelle inside Abwher they rescued some jews and polish oficers and got them to alied side as fake spies; I'm very interested who gave you those numbers.   
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11 They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. Peace, peace, they say, when there is no peace.

12 Are they ashamed of their loathsome conduct? No, they have no shame at all; they do not even know how to blush. So they will fall among the fallen; they will be brought down when they are punished, says the LORD.

13 'I will take away their harvest, declares the LORD. There will be no grapes on the vine. There will be no figs on the tree, and their leaves will wither. What I have given them will be taken from them.'

14 Why are we sitting here? Gather together! Let us flee to the fortified cities and perish there! For the LORD our God has doomed us to perish and given us poisoned water to drink, because we have sinned against him.

15 We hoped for peace but no good has come, for a time of healing but there was only terror.

16 The snorting of the enemy's horses is heard from Dan; at the neighing of their stallions the whole land trembles. They have come to devour the land and everything in it, the city and all who live there.

17 See, I will send venomous snakes among you, vipers that cannot be charmed, and they will bite you, declares the LORD.

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Re: Hello from Germany aswell
« Reply #24 on: October 17, 2007, 03:23:22 PM »
The difference is that a few Poles collaborated, but Polish people as a group did not harm Jews.  By that standard, Jews also were involved in the holocaust (by killing other Jews), as yes, self-hating Jews did aid it.  Romanians overthrew their anti-Jew regime before the war ended.  On the other hand, Germans never overthrew Hitler, and had support accross the population.

The Polish community as a group was certainly not an agent in the holocaust, anything else is revisionism.
The fact that the romanians had antisimetic regime don't mean that the Romanian were antisimetics as a group, the facts are that some Romanians killed Jews, some Poles killed Jews, some Jews killed Jews, some Germans killed Jews and so on. Therefor I can't blame a whole people for being antisimetic, besides, there were also anti-Nazi German plot, and anti-Nazi groups, so...?

Yes Dexter in July 1944; after D-Day and Bagration when they realised the war is lost for Germany; so they tried to kill him to reduce the loses; for ex; untill 1942 von Staufenberg was nazi Only man who was from start against nazism was admiral Canaris and his Shwartze Kappelle inside Abwher they rescued some jews and polish oficers and got them to alied side as fake spies; I'm very interested who gave you those numbers.   
What numbers ?
Not a foreign land we took and not with foreign possession but a land that belong to our ancestors that was occupied without a trial. And when we had the opportunity, we took our land back.
-Shimon Maccabee's answer to Antiochus VII Sidetes.

"When fighting monsters, be wary not to become one... When you gaze into the abyss, it also gazes into you."
- Friedrich Nietzsche