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Title: Want to live to be 800 years old?
Post by: White Israelite on February 11, 2008, 03:47:23 PM
http://io9.com/345728/geneticists-discover-a-way-to-extend-lifespans-to-800-years

 Geneticists Discover a Way to Extend Lifespans to 800 Years

yeast.jpg There is now a way to extend the lifespan of organisms so that humans could conceivably live to be 800 years old. In an amazing development, scientists at the University of Southern California have announced that they've extended the lifespan of yeast bacteria tenfold -- and the recipe they used to do it might easily translate into humans. It involves tinkering with two genes, and cutting down your calorie intake. Tests have already started on people in Ecuador.

According to an announcement from PLoS Genetics:

    Researchers have created baker's yeast capable of living to 800 in yeast years without apparent side effects. The basic but important discovery, achieved through a combination of dietary and genetic changes, brings scientists closer to controlling the survival and health of the unit of all living systems: the cell. "We're setting the foundation for reprogramming healthy life," says study leader Valter Longo of the University of Southern California.

    Longo's group put baker's yeast on a calorie-restricted diet and knocked out two genes - RAS2 and SCH9 - that promote aging in yeast and cancer in humans.

    "We got a 10-fold life span extension that is, I think, the longest one that has ever been achieved in any organism," Longo says. Normal yeast organisms live about a week.

    "I would say 10-fold is pretty significant," says Anna McCormick, chief of the genetics and cell biology branch at the National Institute on Aging (NIA) and Longo's program officer. The NIA funds such research in the hope of extending healthy life span in humans through the development of drugs that mimic the life-prolonging techniques used by Longo and others, McCormick adds.

    Baker's yeast is one of the most studied and best understood organisms at the molecular and genetic level. Remarkably, in light of its simplicity, yeast has led to the discovery of some of the most important genes and pathways regulating aging and disease in mice and other mammals.

    Longo's group next plans to further investigate life span extension in mice. The group is already studying a human population in Ecuador with mutations analogous to those described in yeast.

    "People with two copies of the mutations have very small stature and other defects," Longo says. "We are now identifying the relatives with only one copy of the mutation, who are apparently normal. We hope that they will show a reduced incidence of diseases and an extended life span."

    Longo cautions that, as in the Ecuador case, longevity mutations tend to come with severe growth deficits and other health problems. Finding drugs to extend the human life span without side effects will not be easy.

I've always been a skeptic when it comes to life-extending research, but this has me rethinking my position.
Title: Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
Post by: Sarah on February 11, 2008, 03:56:53 PM
 ???

Title: Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
Post by: OdKahaneChai on February 11, 2008, 04:02:26 PM
Moshiach will be here long before 800 years is up... :)
Title: Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on February 11, 2008, 04:34:01 PM
You mean that now I'm going to have to make Estimated Quarterly Payments to the IRS for 750 more years?   >:(   :(

Title: Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
Post by: JTFFan on February 12, 2008, 01:52:46 AM
What   :o , 800 years really that would make you a 60x great-grandfather or something if you had children ;D
Title: Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on February 12, 2008, 02:37:14 AM
Nooo thank you, I am not planning on living pasted 65  ::)
Title: Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
Post by: Sarah on February 12, 2008, 02:40:33 PM
Nooo thank you, I am not planning on living pasted 65  ::)

I hope that is a joke.

Thank you Cohen for this article, i brought it up in class today and we spent the whole lesson discussing genetic engineering instead of just reading like we always do. O0
Title: Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on February 12, 2008, 05:49:47 PM
Nooo thank you, I am not planning on living pasted 65  ::)

I hope that is a joke.

Thank you Cohen for this article, i brought it up in class today and we spent the whole lesson discussing genetic engineering instead of just reading like we always do. O0

Nope 65 is it, I prefer not to live longer than that.
Title: Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
Post by: Sarah on February 12, 2008, 05:53:39 PM
Nooo thank you, I am not planning on living pasted 65  ::)

I hope that is a joke.

Thank you Cohen for this article, i brought it up in class today and we spent the whole lesson discussing genetic engineering instead of just reading like we always do. O0

Nope 65 is it, I prefer not to live longer than that.
Why? ???
Title: Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on February 12, 2008, 05:58:33 PM
Because my family don't normally live past 65
Title: Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
Post by: Sarah on February 12, 2008, 06:03:51 PM
Because my family don't normally live past 65

That doesn't determine when you're going to die and why would you prefer to live a shorter life?
Title: Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
Post by: cjd on February 12, 2008, 06:08:08 PM
A 100 plus or minus a few years would be just fine. ;) I think 800 years would just be to much. The way the world is changing for the worse by the day  it would become unbearable to live through all that change. :-\
Title: Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
Post by: Sarah on February 12, 2008, 06:10:44 PM
A 100 plus or minus a few years would be just fine. ;) I think 800 years would just be to much. The way the world is changing for the worse by the day  it would become unbearable to live through all that change. :-\

Not to mention the increase in population that this would amount to, if people could have enough time to have 20 or more children, there wouldn't be enough space left on earth. ;D
Title: Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on February 12, 2008, 06:11:07 PM
Because my family don't normally live past 65

That doesn't determine when you're going to die and why would you prefer to live a shorter life?

Haha yes it does Sarah
Title: Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
Post by: cjd on February 12, 2008, 06:21:09 PM
A 100 plus or minus a few years would be just fine. ;) I think 800 years would just be to much. The way the world is changing for the worse by the day  it would become unbearable to live through all that change. :-\

Not to mention the increase in population that this would amount to, if people could have enough time to have 20 or more children, there wouldn't be enough space left on earth. ;D
Yes thats very true. They are starting to come to the conclusion that peoples lifespans are getting to long already. Years ago people would retire at 62 and be dead before 70. Today they go on for years collecting old age retirement and health benefit's. The government is already starting to complain that its costing them to much money. They would start sending hit men out after anyone older than 150 to cut down expenses. ;)
Title: Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
Post by: Ari on February 12, 2008, 08:36:48 PM
I'm conflicted on this.  Sometimes I would like to live a long life and sometimes I look forward to going to a better place. O0
Title: Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
Post by: nessuno on February 12, 2008, 08:47:22 PM
800 years  :o
I would like to live long enough to see my child get married and have children.

Title: Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
Post by: Ari on February 12, 2008, 08:51:12 PM
Imagine the prices in 800 years.  Movie ticket?  That'll be a grand.  Enjoy the show. :::D
Title: Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
Post by: JTFFan on February 13, 2008, 10:20:43 PM
A 100 plus or minus a few years would be just fine. ;) I think 800 years would just be to much. The way the world is changing for the worse by the day  it would become unbearable to live through all that change. :-\

Not only that but all your friends, family and relatives on you would be dying, you'd be going to perhaps your 30x-great-grandson's funeral if you had kids, and everyone would be dying on you. Also, more iSSlamic terrorism etc.
Title: Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on February 13, 2008, 10:46:19 PM
Imagine the prices in 800 years.  Movie ticket?  That'll be a grand.  Enjoy the show. :::D

You think there will be movies then?
Title: Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
Post by: Sarah on February 14, 2008, 10:25:54 AM
Imagine the prices in 800 years.  Movie ticket?  That'll be a grand.  Enjoy the show. :::D

You think there will be movies then?

However advanced they may be or in whatever form of entertainment, they'd have to be at least 10hours long, each, to take up time. :)
Title: Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
Post by: newman on February 14, 2008, 10:38:52 AM
The great thing about living to 800 is you would make HUGE $$$$$ in compound interest. :D
Title: Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
Post by: Dan on February 14, 2008, 10:44:15 AM
800 would be 700 too much for me. ;D
Title: Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on February 17, 2008, 02:49:55 AM
The great thing about living to 800 is you would make HUGE $$$$$ in compound interest. :D

i love your thinking Newman!!! :D

Skippy, please do not think of such things. If you think like that, you will be surprised how easilly your brain would just tell your body to die! If you THINK like that, then it will happen. But if you think and aim for 90, you WILL achieve it with exception to outside forces. Do not underestimate yourself.

Skippy, have you considered seeing a Rabbi or Pastor about it? It may be a curse set on your bloodline, but with the Power of Almighty G-D, it's VERY easy to brake that chain!
Title: Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
Post by: newman on February 17, 2008, 02:58:04 AM
The great thing about living to 800 is you would make HUGE $$$$$ in compound interest. :D

i love your thinking Newman!!! :D


Why do you think vampires in the movies are always rich?

Being 500 years old the 2 gold pieces they put in the Transylvania First National Savings Bank when they were alive at age 25 turned into a squillion over 400+ years.
Title: Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on February 17, 2008, 03:01:40 AM
The great thing about living to 800 is you would make HUGE $$$$$ in compound interest. :D

i love your thinking Newman!!! :D


Why do you think vampires in the movies are always rich?

Being 500 years old the 2 gold pieces they put in the Transylvania First National Savings Bank when they were alive at age 25 turned into a squillion over 400+ years.
:::D :::D :::D :::D :::D
ah Newman, you legend!
Title: Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on February 17, 2008, 03:30:13 AM
The great thing about living to 800 is you would make HUGE $$$$$ in compound interest. :D

i love your thinking Newman!!! :D

Skippy, please do not think of such things. If you think like that, you will be surprised how easilly your brain would just tell your body to die! If you THINK like that, then it will happen. But if you think and aim for 90, you WILL achieve it with exception to outside forces. Do not underestimate yourself.

Skippy, have you considered seeing a Rabbi or Pastor about it? It may be a curse set on your bloodline, but with the Power of Almighty G-D, it's VERY easy to brake that chain!

LOL I think I have had enough of Rabbis for a while  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on February 17, 2008, 03:36:44 AM
The great thing about living to 800 is you would make HUGE $$$$$ in compound interest. :D

i love your thinking Newman!!! :D

Skippy, please do not think of such things. If you think like that, you will be surprised how easilly your brain would just tell your body to die! If you THINK like that, then it will happen. But if you think and aim for 90, you WILL achieve it with exception to outside forces. Do not underestimate yourself.

Skippy, have you considered seeing a Rabbi or Pastor about it? It may be a curse set on your bloodline, but with the Power of Almighty G-D, it's VERY easy to brake that chain!

LOL I think I have had enough of Rabbis for a while  ;) ;)
now now skippy, you don't mean that
Title: Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on February 17, 2008, 04:16:50 AM
The great thing about living to 800 is you would make HUGE $$$$$ in compound interest. :D

i love your thinking Newman!!! :D

Skippy, please do not think of such things. If you think like that, you will be surprised how easilly your brain would just tell your body to die! If you THINK like that, then it will happen. But if you think and aim for 90, you WILL achieve it with exception to outside forces. Do not underestimate yourself.

Skippy, have you considered seeing a Rabbi or Pastor about it? It may be a curse set on your bloodline, but with the Power of Almighty G-D, it's VERY easy to brake that chain!

LOL I think I have had enough of Rabbis for a while  ;) ;)
now now skippy, you don't mean that

Yeah I do, just got off the phone to a Cuz of mine, who is an Arch Bishop, far easier to talk too.  ^-^
Title: Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on February 17, 2008, 04:23:14 AM
The great thing about living to 800 is you would make HUGE $$$$$ in compound interest. :D

i love your thinking Newman!!! :D

Skippy, please do not think of such things. If you think like that, you will be surprised how easilly your brain would just tell your body to die! If you THINK like that, then it will happen. But if you think and aim for 90, you WILL achieve it with exception to outside forces. Do not underestimate yourself.

Skippy, have you considered seeing a Rabbi or Pastor about it? It may be a curse set on your bloodline, but with the Power of Almighty G-D, it's VERY easy to brake that chain!

LOL I think I have had enough of Rabbis for a while  ;) ;)
now now skippy, you don't mean that

Yeah I do, just got off the phone to a Cuz of mine, who is an Arch Bishop, far easier to talk too.  ^-^

ok, but the best would be a Pastor  ;)
Title: Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on February 17, 2008, 04:40:54 AM
The great thing about living to 800 is you would make HUGE $$$$$ in compound interest. :D

i love your thinking Newman!!! :D

Skippy, please do not think of such things. If you think like that, you will be surprised how easilly your brain would just tell your body to die! If you THINK like that, then it will happen. But if you think and aim for 90, you WILL achieve it with exception to outside forces. Do not underestimate yourself.

Skippy, have you considered seeing a Rabbi or Pastor about it? It may be a curse set on your bloodline, but with the Power of Almighty G-D, it's VERY easy to brake that chain!

LOL I think I have had enough of Rabbis for a while  ;) ;)
now now skippy, you don't mean that

Yeah I do, just got off the phone to a Cuz of mine, who is an Arch Bishop, far easier to talk too.  ^-^

ok, but the best would be a Pastor  ;)
Pastors nope

I knew an Irish minster once he was the best  O0
Title: Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
Post by: HiWarp on February 17, 2008, 09:07:46 AM
Imagine the prices in 800 years.  Movie ticket?  That'll be a grand.  Enjoy the show. :::D

Yeah, but everything goes up accordingly.  What's the big deal about a $1000 movie ticket when your salary will be $10,000,000/year. 

As for living 800 years, isn't this old news?  That was less than the average life span of people mentioned in Genesis.  :)
Title: Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
Post by: OdKahaneChai on February 17, 2008, 02:00:37 PM
Imagine the prices in 800 years.  Movie ticket?  That'll be a grand.  Enjoy the show. :::D

Yeah, but everything goes up accordingly.  What's the big deal about a $1000 movie ticket when your salary will be $10,000,000/year. 

As for living 800 years, isn't this old news?  That was less than the average life span of people mentioned in Genesis.  :)
But after the Mabul it slowly went down to 120. (the maximum life span)
Title: Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
Post by: newman on February 17, 2008, 02:04:22 PM
Imagine the prices in 800 years.  Movie ticket?  That'll be a grand.  Enjoy the show. :::D

Yeah, but everything goes up accordingly.  What's the big deal about a $1000 movie ticket when your salary will be $10,000,000/year. 

As for living 800 years, isn't this old news?  That was less than the average life span of people mentioned in Genesis.  :)
But after the Mabul it slowly went down to 120. (the maximum life span)

Wasn't the shorter lifespan due to genetic defects caused from inbreeding?
Title: Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
Post by: OdKahaneChai on February 17, 2008, 02:09:42 PM
Imagine the prices in 800 years.  Movie ticket?  That'll be a grand.  Enjoy the show. :::D

Yeah, but everything goes up accordingly.  What's the big deal about a $1000 movie ticket when your salary will be $10,000,000/year. 

As for living 800 years, isn't this old news?  That was less than the average life span of people mentioned in Genesis.  :)
But after the Mabul it slowly went down to 120. (the maximum life span)
Wasn't the shorter lifespan due to genetic defects caused from inbreeding?
No.
Title: Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
Post by: White Israelite on February 17, 2008, 02:22:45 PM
Imagine the prices in 800 years.  Movie ticket?  That'll be a grand.  Enjoy the show. :::D

Yeah, but everything goes up accordingly.  What's the big deal about a $1000 movie ticket when your salary will be $10,000,000/year. 

As for living 800 years, isn't this old news?  That was less than the average life span of people mentioned in Genesis.  :)
But after the Mabul it slowly went down to 120. (the maximum life span)

World's Oldest Person Turns 128

http://www.thedominican.net/articles/pampo.htm

It's from 2003, not sure if she's still alive.
Title: Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
Post by: OdKahaneChai on February 17, 2008, 02:36:49 PM
Imagine the prices in 800 years.  Movie ticket?  That'll be a grand.  Enjoy the show. :::D

Yeah, but everything goes up accordingly.  What's the big deal about a $1000 movie ticket when your salary will be $10,000,000/year. 

As for living 800 years, isn't this old news?  That was less than the average life span of people mentioned in Genesis.  :)
But after the Mabul it slowly went down to 120. (the maximum life span)

World's Oldest Person Turns 128

http://www.thedominican.net/articles/pampo.htm

It's from 2003, not sure if she's still alive.
I heard about this woman.  There are no official records of her birth anyway.  But in any case, for there to occasionally be someone living past 120 is not a contradiction.
Title: Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on February 17, 2008, 04:37:10 PM
We have many in Australia that live over 100
Title: Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
Post by: Sarah on February 18, 2008, 04:10:16 AM
I read on msn news that an arab woman who was applying for Israeli citizenship was around 122 years old.
Title: Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on February 18, 2008, 04:11:18 AM
I read on msn news that an arab woman who was applying for Israeli citizenship was around 122 years old.
hmmm...mayby she looked 122, but is actually 40 years old  ;)  :D :D
Title: Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
Post by: JTFFan on February 18, 2008, 05:31:28 AM
I read on msn news that an arab woman who was applying for Israeli citizenship was around 122 years old.
hmmm...mayby she looked 122, but is actually 40 years old  ;)  :D :D

lol, a bad hijab day but nevertheless 39 and sun tanned wrinkly jihad skin :::D ;D ;D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on February 18, 2008, 06:45:38 AM
I read on msn news that an arab woman who was applying for Israeli citizenship was around 122 years old.
hmmm...mayby she looked 122, but is actually 40 years old  ;)  :D :D

lol, a bad hijab day but nevertheless 39 and sun tanned wrinkly jihad skin :::D ;D ;D :D :D :D
:::D :::D :::D
Title: Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
Post by: newman on February 18, 2008, 06:52:02 AM
I read on msn news that an arab woman who was applying for Israeli citizenship was around 122 years old.
hmmm...mayby she looked 122, but is actually 40 years old  ;)  :D :D

Plus the fact that arabs stink like a whorehouse at low tide in the Vulga so they probably figured she was a walking corpse.
Title: Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on February 18, 2008, 07:02:36 AM
a good sample for one of those Garnier Pro-Aging products  :D :D :::D :::D :::D
Title: Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
Post by: Ari on February 18, 2008, 10:35:05 PM
Yes, I saw that about the Israeli Arab lady too.  Who says living in Gaza is bad for your heart? O0
Title: Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on February 18, 2008, 10:45:54 PM
Yes, I saw that about the Israeli Arab lady too.  Who says living in Gaza is bad for your heart? O0
exactly!

Keeps the haert pumpin!...