We have Germans on this site. I believe Pheasant is a German. So is George W Bush the Hero
I believe that German's represent the largest nationality in America. Something like 30%40% and some of the best Generals in ww2 were German Americans,many also served in the OSS on very dangerous missions
I have to disagree. The history of Germany and the Teutonic people is one of satanic racism (derived from their pagan Odinism) and malevolent anti-Semitism--which did not start with, but was certainly typified by, Martin Luther some 500 years ago (and 400 years before Hitler ys"vz). Adolf Hitler won with nearly 100% of the German popular vote in a free and unfettered election (remember, this was Weimar Germany at the time--a completely modern and fair constitutional democracy) specifically because he campaigned on the issue of anti-Semitism and promised to put a stop to the horrible Jews who were swindling the German Gentiles and "enslaving" them. The German public just ate this up. They had never had a candidate before who said so very openly everything they had always felt and wished for.We have Germans on this site. I believe Pheasant is a German. So is George W Bush the Hero
I believe that German's represent the largest nationality in America. Something like 30%.
BTW, German central Europe has an extraordinary history, that shouldn't be trivialized by what Hitler did. I think that there is evil everywhere... and because of ignorance and extraordinary circumstances, evil can gain political control.
Just like with Obama... many who support him... arent evil, they are ignorant. They just don't think its even a possibility that Obama has been a member of a Black supremacist Church. I dont think its fair to say that the USA is evil if he is elected. We are just ignorant and are fearful, which is what both Obama and Hilter feed upon.
I was wondering what people here on JTF thinks of Germans in general. I noticed a lot of resentment against them, no doubt due to the holocaust and World War II. I was also wondering if it is okay for Jews and righteous gentiles like myself to attend Oktoberfest? Theres a church down in Augusta celebrating and was invited to attend.
I have to disagree. The history of Germany and the Teutonic people is one of satanic racism (derived from their pagan Odinism) and malevolent anti-Semitism--which did not start with, but was certainly typified by, Martin Luther some 500 years ago (and 400 years before Hitler ys"vz). Adolf Hitler won with nearly 100% of the German popular vote in a free and unfettered election (remember, this was Weimar Germany at the time--a completely modern and fair constitutional democracy) specifically because he campaigned on the issue of anti-Semitism and promised to put a stop to the horrible Jews who were swindling the German Gentiles and "enslaving" them. The German public just ate this up. They had never had a candidate before who said so very openly everything they had always felt and wished for.We have Germans on this site. I believe Pheasant is a German. So is George W Bush the Hero
I believe that German's represent the largest nationality in America. Something like 30%.
BTW, German central Europe has an extraordinary history, that shouldn't be trivialized by what Hitler did. I think that there is evil everywhere... and because of ignorance and extraordinary circumstances, evil can gain political control.
Just like with Obama... many who support him... arent evil, they are ignorant. They just don't think its even a possibility that Obama has been a member of a Black supremacist Church. I dont think its fair to say that the USA is evil if he is elected. We are just ignorant and are fearful, which is what both Obama and Hilter feed upon.
Americans for Obama, on the other hand, are divided between those who are truly evil and are voting for him because they know what he stands for (i.e. all his black and Arab supporters and at least a third of his white supporters) and those who are stupid, selfish, greedy, and ignorant and support him because they actually believe John McCain and Sarah Palin are responsible for the bank meltdown and think that Obama will bring "change". So, I think it's apples and oranges.
Geez that is a long answer ;D
Pheasant is a righteous German--from Germany, in fact--but 99.8% of Teutons, at least in their own land, are scum of the earth to this day. Few European nations and their publics are as committed to Hamas, Hezbollah, and "land for peace".
On the other hand, in my experience most German-Americans are not bad at all.
I have to disagree. The history of Germany and the Teutonic people is one of satanic racism (derived from their pagan Odinism) and malevolent anti-Semitism--which did not start with, but was certainly typified by, Martin Luther some 500 years ago (and 400 years before Hitler ys"vz). Adolf Hitler won with nearly 100% of the German popular vote in a free and unfettered election (remember, this was Weimar Germany at the time--a completely modern and fair constitutional democracy) specifically because he campaigned on the issue of anti-Semitism and promised to put a stop to the horrible Jews who were swindling the German Gentiles and "enslaving" them. The German public just ate this up. They had never had a candidate before who said so very openly everything they had always felt and wished for.We have Germans on this site. I believe Pheasant is a German. So is George W Bush the Hero
I believe that German's represent the largest nationality in America. Something like 30%.
BTW, German central Europe has an extraordinary history, that shouldn't be trivialized by what Hitler did. I think that there is evil everywhere... and because of ignorance and extraordinary circumstances, evil can gain political control.
Just like with Obama... many who support him... arent evil, they are ignorant. They just don't think its even a possibility that Obama has been a member of a Black supremacist Church. I dont think its fair to say that the USA is evil if he is elected. We are just ignorant and are fearful, which is what both Obama and Hilter feed upon.
Americans for Obama, on the other hand, are divided between those who are truly evil and are voting for him because they know what he stands for (i.e. all his black and Arab supporters and at least a third of his white supporters) and those who are stupid, selfish, greedy, and ignorant and support him because they actually believe John McCain and Sarah Palin are responsible for the bank meltdown and think that Obama will bring "change". So, I think it's apples and oranges.
| Date | Votes | Percentage | Seats in Reichstag | Background |
| May 1924 | 1,918,300 | 6.5 | 32 | Hitler in prison |
| December 1924 | 907,300 | 3.0 | 14 | Hitler is released from prison |
| May 1928 | 810,100 | 2.6 | 12 | |
| September 1930 | 6,409,600 | 18.3 | 107 | After the financial crisis |
| July 1932 | 13,745,800 | 37.4 | 230 | After Hitler was candidate for presidency |
| November 1932 | 11,737,000 | 33.1 | 196 | |
| March 1933 | 17,277,000 | 43.9 | 288 | During Hitler's term as Chancellor of Germany |
However, some people have referred to Hitler's legacy in neutral or favourable terms. Former Egyptian President Anwar El Sadat spoke of his 'admiration' of Hitler in 1953, when he was a young man, though it is possible he was speaking in the context of a rebellion against the British Empire.[257] Louis Farrakhan has referred to him as a "very great man".[258] Bal Thackeray, leader of the right-wing Hindu Shiv Sena party in the Indian state of the Maharashtra, declared in 1995 that he was an admirer of Hitler.[259] Friedrich Meinecke, the German historian quotes of Hitler, "It is one of the great examples of the singular and incalculable power of personality in historical life".[260]
PS: I used to drive a VW bus... Even though VW was Hitlers car company.
PS: I used to drive a VW bus... Even though VW was Hitlers car company.
What does that have to do with anything?
Hey I forgot something, Germany bred some really awesome breeds of dog, like Mord's shepherd in the picture. Also weimeraners and dachshunds and other great breeds. I'm not fond of dobermans or rottweilers though.Thats true even the standard Poodle which was originally a work dog :)
CF may have a point, at a certain time Hitler recieved 84.6% of the electorate. Though at this time he was already using his paramilitary squads to eliminate his opposition.
Again from Wikipedia:
President Paul von Hindenburg died on 2 August 1934. Rather than holding new presidential elections, Hitler's cabinet passed a law proclaiming the presidency dormant and transferred the role and powers of the head of state to Hitler as Führer und Reichskanzler (leader and chancellor). Thereby Hitler also became supreme commander of the military, whose officers then swore an oath not to the state or the constitution but to Hitler personally.[48] In a mid-August plebiscite, these acts found the approval of 84.6% of the electorate.[49] This action technically violated both the constitution and the Enabling Act. The constitution had been amended in 1932 to make the president of the High Court of Justice, not the chancellor, acting president until new elections could be held. The Enabling Act specifically barred Hitler from taking any action that tampered with the presidency. However, no one dared object. With this action, Hitler effectively removed the last remedy by which he could be dismissed from office—and with it, all checks and balances on his power.
I dont know if this was a fair election as at the time his use of violence was well established.
muman613QuoteHowever, some people have referred to Hitler's legacy in neutral or favourable terms. Former Egyptian President Anwar El Sadat spoke of his 'admiration' of Hitler in 1953, when he was a young man, though it is possible he was speaking in the context of a rebellion against the British Empire.[257] Louis Farrakhan has referred to him as a "very great man".[258] Bal Thackeray, leader of the right-wing Hindu Shiv Sena party in the Indian state of the Maharashtra, declared in 1995 that he was an admirer of Hitler.[259] Friedrich Meinecke, the German historian quotes of Hitler, "It is one of the great examples of the singular and incalculable power of personality in historical life".[260]
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I don't have a problem with the German people. However I am not happy the way they treated six million Jews during the Holocaust.
I don't have a problem with the German people. However I am not happy the way they treated six million Jews during the Holocaust.
My family didn't kill any Jews or support Nazis, so I don't appreciate that remark.
I have no German heritage.
Do all Saxons from Germany get automatic English citzenship :laugh: :laugh:Nope, too white :laugh:
I was wondering what people here on JTF thinks of Germans in general. I noticed a lot of resentment against them, no doubt due to the holocaust and World War II. I was also wondering if it is okay for Jews and righteous gentiles like myself to attend Oktoberfest? Theres a church down in Augusta celebrating and was invited to attend.
I was wondering what people here on JTF thinks of Germans in general. I noticed a lot of resentment against them, no doubt due to the holocaust and World War II. I was also wondering if it is okay for Jews and righteous gentiles like myself to attend Oktoberfest? Theres a church down in Augusta celebrating and was invited to attend.
Why would us Jews have any resentments against Germans??? >:( >:( That is absurd. Not only did they mastermind and carry out the massacre of 6,000,000 Jews, they are still trying to do the same thing today indirectly, by helping and supporting Islamic regimes against Israel.
I am Krautophobic.
If any of my German ancestors had a part of that horrible plan, please, I ask forgiveness!!!!!! I am just as upset about it as you are........!!! :'(
I hate Amalik. May the day quickly come when they are destroyed. Amen Yehi Ratzon!THE AMALAKITES WERE BEDOUIN TRIBES
It is right that the atrocities of the Second World War should be remembered, but what we are remembering is the failings of ordinary people such as ourselves.
In October (1933) Hitler organized a plebiscite to approve Germany's withdrawal from the League of Nations and from the Disarmament Conference. He received 96.3 per cent support. In August 1934, following the President's death, he called another plebiscite to approve his own elevation to the new party-state position of 'Fuhrer and Reich-Chancellor' with full emergency powers. This time he received 90 per cent support... Hitler's democratic triumph exposed the true nature of democracy. Democracy has few values of its own: it is as good, or as bad, as the principles of the people who operate it. In the hands of liberal and tolerant people, it will produce a liberal and tolerant government; in the hands of cannibals, a government of cannibals. In Germany in 1933-4 it produced a Nazi government because the prevailing culture of Germany's voters did not give priority to the exclusion of gangsters.
Muman, I don't think we should bother wasting time arguing with a Pat Buchanan supporter, particularly on this issue.
However, for the record, here is a quote from Norman Davies' Europe: A History (New York: Oxford University Press, 1996), page 969, on the subject:Quote from: Norman DaviesIn October (1933) Hitler organized a plebiscite to approve Germany's withdrawal from the League of Nations and from the Disarmament Conference. He received 96.3 per cent support. In August 1934, following the President's death, he called another plebiscite to approve his own elevation to the new party-state position of 'Fuhrer and Reich-Chancellor' with full emergency powers. This time he received 90 per cent support... Hitler's democratic triumph exposed the true nature of democracy. Democracy has few values of its own: it is as good, or as bad, as the principles of the people who operate it. In the hands of liberal and tolerant people, it will produce a liberal and tolerant government; in the hands of cannibals, a government of cannibals. In Germany in 1933-4 it produced a Nazi government because the prevailing culture of Germany's voters did not give priority to the exclusion of gangsters.
Can everybody quiet down for a second? I think I heard some noise... I think I heard a little mouse squeaking around here, but I can't make out what it said...
If they're all genetic monsters then I am too, and so was my grandfather who fought against them. lol I love Germans, but I have no love for Nazis.There was no approval attached to my analysis.
I have pretty much all German heritage on both sides of my family, but both sides of my family were in America long before the Holocaust took place, so I know I'm not a descendant of a Nazi. I believe that due to recent German history with Nazism and current leftism, that people should be very wary of Germans. However, I believe that people should like individual Germans who do separate themselves from evil ideologies and who are on the side of G-d and Israel.
I have pretty much all German heritage on both sides of my family, but both sides of my family were in America long before the Holocaust took place, so I know I'm not a descendant of a Nazi. I believe that due to recent German history with Nazism and current leftism, that people should be very wary of Germans. However, I believe that people should like individual Germans who do separate themselves from evil ideologies and who are on the side of G-d and Israel.To be honest, I think that most British such as myself, with any perception of history, are still wary of the Germans. It will take a generation or two before this disappears. I am also suspicious of the young French and other Europeans of the former Allied countries who deride any special relationship with the UK, conferring this to an older generation and to history. This is just ignorance. If 6 million of my own people had been destroyed by the Germans then I would also be permanently embittered. However, I have to say that the Allied powers, the RCC, the Red Cross and the ordinary people of many of the occupied countries also showed very little concern for what was happening. The railroad to Auchwitz seems to have been one of the few structures left intact by the end of the war.
I think we should see the reality of today. And this reality doesn't look bright :o
I could be part Jewish because of my maiden name....I have no clue, perhaps I should do some research on the subject.......a Jewish friend of mine's mother told him to tell me once, it is quite possible.....there were many German Jews....At the very list a third of the German Jews had converted during the late 19th and early 20th centuries.
and some Jews had turned their back on their faith because of the holocaust.... :'(
I know, because I know someone who is an athiest and he comes from an entire family of athiests and it was because of the Holocaust that they became athiests.....
i cannot forgive germans for what they did , the only germans i am willing to not see a part of it , are noahides , for obvious reasons .
Again why has'nt the original poster ever retuirned to see the answers to his question
humm let me think :laugh:Again why has'nt the original poster ever retuirned to see the answers to his question
He was probably just trolling. That's a typical troll type of question to ask on a Jewish message board. At least it turned out for the positive in my opinion, it let people discuss their views and no big arguments started. 8)
Future topics I expect are things like "What do people here think of Greenland?"
i cannot forgive germans for what they did , the only germans i am willing to not see a part of it , are noahides , for obvious reasons .
Why not any good person who is not the enemy of the Jews? Hating someone for their nationality is racist. You should be angry if someone is behaving badly.
i am not a racist , i dont belive that there are human races , but human cultures
if someone consider himself a german , he consider himself a part of the culture , which tried to wipe jews out ...
i cannot say that there were no good german people , but there weren't enough , not by a long shot .... most of this nation chose to be my enemy at a certine time and a certine place , and because of their acts , 6 million jews died
you and i hate the arabs for far less
so ...
the only german i dont see a part of this culture , is nohaide , because he repaced his culture , to a culture given by my g-d ...
of course , any german that would technically "betray" sort of speak his german culture .. would not be considered really german to me ... but that doesn't mean i need to like him
I think we should see the politic and economic reality of today in Germany. And this reality doesn't look bright :o
I think we should see the politic and economic reality of today in Germany. And this reality doesn't look bright :o
You are right. But the best country to look at to see the abysmal future of Europe is France. It has become the most disgusting example of tolerance on the face of the earth... and it will become nothing more than a country with pockets of no-go zones.
I like the story of the Little Prince. I used to watch a tv show based off of it on Nickelodeon in the 80s.Yes, but they are unreliable as allies. If mad King Louis in the 1400's hadn't withdrawn his knights from the army of Glyndwr then all you lot would now be speaking Welsh.
Again why has'nt the original poster ever retuirned to see the answers to his questionPerhaps he went to the Oktoberfest anyway, for the beer.
:) :) :) :)Again why has'nt the original poster ever retuirned to see the answers to his questionPerhaps he went to the Oktoberfest anyway, for the beer.
I like the story of the Little Prince. I used to watch a tv show based off of it on Nickelodeon in the 80s.Yes, but they are unreliable as allies. If mad King Louis in the 1400's hadn't withdrawn his knights from the army of Glyndwr then all you lot would now be speaking Welsh.
Same as everyone else you have good and bad people in all countries, except most islamic countries
Yes i agreeSame as everyone else you have good and bad people in all countries, except most islamic countries
I agree with that! I think Islam breeds a special hatred all to its own. Whether German or not, it doesn't matter as much as how you treat one another. As I remember there were Germans who didn't agree with Hitler and risked their lives to rescue Jewish people. Similarly, as much as I hate Islam, my country is looking at a possible Islamic president, which doesn't represent my beliefs. I pray he doesn't get in because I don't think he will help protect the Jewish people. I pray he is not elected. He doesn't represent this American!
Again why has'nt the original poster ever retuirned to see the answers to his question
He was probably just trolling. That's a typical troll type of question to ask on a Jewish message board. At least it turned out for the positive in my opinion, it let people discuss their views and no big arguments started. 8)
Future topics I expect are things like "What do people here think of Greenland?"
This story of the poisoned water I don't know, but there were a group of allied Jewish soldiers after the war, that hunted Nazi war criminals and shoot them. They did the right thing.If only there had been armed Jews like that before the war, there wouldn't have been a Shoah. Instead, 95% of Jews, religious and secular alike, believed that it was their duty to obey Hitler and be good Jewish citizens. Jabotinsky's common sense was completely rejected. So, 6.5 million Jews were exterminated like insects without a fight.
i know man , caucausians , negroids ,and mongloids are the scientific terms , right ?
look , to be honest , this is a theory which started shaping much before modern exploration has began, and modern science just inhirited it ... for exemple , would you say japanese are asians by that definition ?
cuz its pretty clear now that modern japanese people started arriving there about 300 B.C.E. , from mesopotamia , and not china or somthing like that , like you would asume by their appearnce
anyway .. europians are not the only white people out there
i can (if i'll find how to insert photos here) show you a little test , with pictures of diffrent peoples , and i'm pretty sure you'll cunfuse eastren people to be europian
and i'm pretty sure you might think that greeks and italians are eastren
its not all that black and white as you belive ... now i tell you man
dig up some of europe's main cultures history
you'll find out many intresting things , and one main thing , they all came from diffrent places , not europe
the people who probably drew this , was driven out by modern europian cultures as they invaded europe from the agean and asia
again , you asume that scots are europians for exemple , that is not true , the original inhabitants of scotland was called picts , the scots drove them off , and conquared their land .... the scots are litelry a scythian tribe , which originated in a land called subartu/sparada , in mesopotamia ... they did not "evolve" in europe ...
many many nations whom are now considered europian , used to live in asia minor , asia , and the east ... alot of lenguages in europe are driven out of ancient lenguages spoken in the east
infact ... if you read Welsh book of what they call "Tanach " , it will sound like broken hebrew ... like someone who have a poor grammer in hebrew , trying to read the tanach , the words are almost the same ...
i know that your not regular to this type of claims , but speak to historians and lengwistics you trust man , and see for your self
btw , according to the theory you speak of , "whites" as in caucasians , include many non europians
so , its not really what your preaching anyway , right ?
good and innocent people dont go burning people who done nothing wrong to them.
i know man , caucausians , negroids ,and mongloids are the scientific terms , right ?at this point of the conversation, what the scots are or aren't is a moot point. This world over 1000's of years has become somewhat of a melting pot (not like the Carreabean). There really isn't a pure this or a pure that. It is what it is... Discussions like these are good for anthropology class...and personally, i find them to be interesting.
look , to be honest , this is a theory which started shaping much before modern exploration has began, and modern science just inhirited it ... for exemple , would you say japanese are asians by that definition ?
cuz its pretty clear now that modern japanese people started arriving there about 300 B.C.E. , from mesopotamia , and not china or somthing like that , like you would asume by their appearnce
anyway .. europians are not the only white people out there
i can (if i'll find how to insert photos here) show you a little test , with pictures of diffrent peoples , and i'm pretty sure you'll cunfuse eastren people to be europian
and i'm pretty sure you might think that greeks and italians are eastren
its not all that black and white as you belive ... now i tell you man
dig up some of europe's main cultures history
you'll find out many intresting things , and one main thing , they all came from diffrent places , not europe
the people who probably drew this , was driven out by modern europian cultures as they invaded europe from the agean and asia
again , you asume that scots are europians for exemple , that is not true , the original inhabitants of scotland was called picts , the scots drove them off , and conquared their land .... the scots are litelry a scythian tribe , which originated in a land called subartu/sparada , in mesopotamia ... they did not "evolve" in europe ...
many many nations whom are now considered europian , used to live in asia minor , asia , and the east ... alot of lenguages in europe are driven out of ancient lenguages spoken in the east
infact ... if you read Welsh book of what they call "Tanach " , it will sound like broken hebrew ... like someone who have a poor grammer in hebrew , trying to read the tanach , the words are almost the same ...
i know that your not regular to this type of claims , but speak to historians and lengwistics you trust man , and see for your self
btw , according to the theory you speak of , "whites" as in caucasians , include many non europians
so , its not really what your preaching anyway , right ?
good and innocent people dont go burning people who done nothing wrong to them.
and personally, i find them to be interestingi guess mainestategop does'nt find it too interesting
i guess mainestategop doesn't find it too interestingStill sobering up after the Oktoberfest.
Probably :laugh: :laugh:i guess mainestategop doesn't find it too interestingStill sobering up after the Oktoberfest.
This is way off the point, but there's no Tanach in Welsh, unless you mean the Welsh translation of the Bible, and Welsh is a highly structured language, not broken Hebrew or anything else.. anyway, where's Mainestategop?? Isn't the Oktoberfest finished yet??
infact ... if you read Welsh book of what they call "Tanach " , it will sound like broken hebrew ... like someone who have a poor grammer in hebrew , trying to read the tanach , the words are almost the same ...
actually i explained it , The forum must have a code that changed "o-l-d te-sta-ment " to the word TANACH .
thats why i said "what they call"
i didn't said welsh is broken hebrew , i said that if you hear someone read it , it will sound as if someone reading from the tanach and dont know hebrew grammer well , cuz most of the words in ancient welsh sound similar to hebrew words of the same meaning
just pointed out connection of another europian people to the east
actually i explained it , The forum must have a code that changed "o-l-d te-sta-ment " to the word TANACH .
thats why i said "what they call"
i didn't said welsh is broken hebrew , i said that if you hear someone read it , it will sound as if someone reading from the tanach and dont know hebrew grammer well , cuz most of the words in ancient welsh sound similar to hebrew words of the same meaning
just pointed out connection of another europian people to the east