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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Hoosier Kahanist on June 10, 2013, 05:14:35 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfAIOFmFwiU
This philandering fornicator is totally a degenerate liar; don't be deceived by his total b.s. He's NOT married to Jewess Melinda Katz; they live in sin. Don't vote for this KURVA Melinda Katz for Queens Borough President. Vote for Peter Vallone, Jr.
Coitus is a f.....g clown and thief and he doesn't believe a word he's saying, so don't you believe it either!!!!
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Hoosier,
I do not know specifics in this case... But before I accept any 'negative report' about anybody I require to see evidence of what they are accused of being/doing. I do not accept any 'gossip' or 'slander' about anyone without multiple sources of proof of transgression.
While you may be speaking the truth about this guy... Could you please provide some links to substantiate your claims?
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Chaim has been warning against this Polish Nazi Jew-hater for years.
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Chaim did say he was no good! I had that he was a good person and true to Israel, before....
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Chaim has been warning against this Polish Nazi Jew-hater for years.
I guess I must have missed it... I guess I'll search the site and find out what the truth is. According to my google search he really appears to be a defender of Israel..
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I found this thread where Masterwolf claimed he was about to meet Curtis Sliwa... In that conversation most people also believed that he was pro-Israel... Apparently Chaim had said something before this Feb 2009 thread...
http://jtf.org/forum/index.php/topic,32370.msg330395.html#msg330395
Chaim was asked about him on AskJTF in 2007 @ http://jtf.org/forum/index.php/topic,4640.msg50030.html#msg50030
Again in 2008 @ http://jtf.org/forum/index.php/topic,26442.msg284899.html#msg284899
And this AskJTF earlier this year @ http://jtf.org/forum/index.php/topic,68840.msg591131.html#msg591131
I suppose I will have to find that show (I think I downloaded it but didn't listen to it?)...
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I guess I must have missed it... I guess I'll search the site and find out what the truth is. According to my google search he really appears to be a defender of Israel..
It's true Chaim has spoken of him over the years in several Ask JTFs
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He sounds like ?Chaim whats wrong?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx6bgulYLrc
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I remember seeing him on TV (he was on the old Channel 9 Jackie Mason Show) defending Jews in the most wonderful and remarkable way. I have never seen one Jew defending Jews and Israel like he did. He talked about the accomplishment of Jews, he talked about how Jews raised the level of any society in which we lived, he went on and on praising Jews and Israel. Curtis is a true friend to our people. If he's not a true friend, then why all the praise?
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Didn't someone just ask about this guy on a very recent Ask JTF?
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Didn't someone just ask about this guy on a very recent Ask JTF?
Yes, last month... I need to find the show and listen to it...
http://jtf.org/forum/index.php/topic,68840.msg591131.html#msg591131
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Yes, last month... I need to find the show and listen to it...
http://jtf.org/forum/index.php/topic,68840.msg591131.html#msg591131
Oh ok, I thought I remembered that.
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You want the facts? Here they are. He's a rent-a-schmuck.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/sliwa_wife_files_explosive_lawsuit_15kFpijwAdnXuWQR8f87KJ
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I hope he is serious about maintaining security for New York, because you can't trust the CIA, FBI, or Obama. The Next mayor had better take seriously the plans of Islam to destroy the world!
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I hope he is serious about maintaining security for New York, because you can't trust the CIA, FBI, or Obama. The Next mayor had better take seriously the plans of Islam to destroy the world!
You JTFers still don't get it. I'm surprised that astute Kahanists like you can't see that the only thing this clown will maintain is his pockets and license to b.s. everyone and to not know how to spell marital fidelity. Wake up and smell the gefilte fish. The guy is a b.s. artist. I'm shocked how JTF Kahanists cannot see this. It is a SHONDA. Chaim: please spell it out. You're the only one who can bring out the smelling salts. Am I the only one who's sane here? This guy is a publicity seeking degenerate dirtbag!! If you don't see it, give back your JTF credentials.
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You JTFers still don't get it. I'm surprised that astute Kahanists like you can't see that the only thing this clown will maintain is his pockets and license to b.s. everyone and to not know how to spell marital fidelity. Wake up and smell the gefilte fish. The guy is a b.s. artist. I'm shocked how JTF Kahanists cannot see this. It is a SHONDA. Chaim: please spell it out. You're the only one who can bring out the smelling salts. Am I the only one who's sane here? This guy is a publicity seeking degenerate dirtbag!! If you don't see it, give back your JTF credentials.
Relax dude. Maybe she just isn't familiar with him. I am sure Chaim will step in and clarify it once and for all.
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You JTFers still don't get it. I'm surprised that astute Kahanists like you can't see that the only thing this clown will maintain is his pockets and license to b.s. everyone and to not know how to spell marital fidelity. Wake up and smell the gefilte fish. The guy is a b.s. artist. I'm shocked how JTF Kahanists cannot see this. It is a SHONDA. Chaim: please spell it out. You're the only one who can bring out the smelling salts. Am I the only one who's sane here? This guy is a publicity seeking degenerate dirtbag!! If you don't see it, give back your JTF credentials.
Your attitude is objectionable... JTF does not enforce that everyone has to think and say the exact same thing. Everyone is entitled to their opinion on people and things. This is not an echo chamber where everyone imitates and parrots what Chaim says.
I respect Chaim and his opinion but I also listen to others too. I am not a 'fanboy' of anything. I am a thinking adult who learns and grows, but am not ordered to believe one thing or another.
I still have yet to see something which confirms your statement. His divorce doesn't prove a lot... Divorces are dirty (I know from experience) and often the wife will exaggerate in order to get more money in the divorce. My father (OBM) was married three times and he was a righteous and conservative Jew.
I would like to hear what Chaim says about this, and I will make my own decision...
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Your attitude is objectionable... JTF does not enforce that everyone has to think and say the exact same thing. Everyone is entitled to their opinion on people and things. This is not an echo chamber where everyone imitates and parrots what Chaim says.
I respect Chaim and his opinion but I also listen to others too. I am not a 'fanboy' of anything. I am a thinking adult who learns and grows, but am not ordered to believe one thing or another.
I still have yet to see something which confirms your statement. His divorce doesn't prove a lot... Divorces are dirty (I know from experience) and often the wife will exaggerate in order to get more money in the divorce. My father (OBM) was married three times and he was a righteous and conservative Jew.
I would like to hear what Chaim says about this, and I will make my own decision...
I agree. There is room for a diversity of opinion on the JTF forum. But NOT about Curtis Sliwa!!!!
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I agree. There is room for a diversity of opinion on the JTF forum. But NOT about Curtis Sliwa!!!!
I am willing to hear what is wrong with him... I have been wrong about people before...
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I am willing to hear what is wrong with him... I have been wrong about people before...
He faked his own kidnapping. He wrote up false police claims that he was beaten up by NY Transit Police and several police were disciplined about this lie. He harassed the Gottis so much from his 50,000 Watt transmitter daily that he provoked them to shoot him. He gives the same b.s. speech to everyone, the Armenians, Zionist Jews, Kurds, Palestinians, etc. but he just changes the subject word and leaves the rest of the same, disingenuous speech the same. He believes NOTHING he ever says. He offers none of his Guardian Angels any health coverage if they are injured while patrolling. He patrols only when the TV cameras are there
but when the cameras leave, he leaves leaving his lackeys to risk their lives while he is sleeping tight in his million dollar condo. He makes multimillion dollars from speeches about the Guardian Angels but charges the Angels for uniforms and gives them no money for carfare. He not only cheated on all the wives he had but this time he extorted hundreds of thousands of dollars from wife#3 and bought a life insurance policy with it for wife#4. He's a buffoon who dresses up in a king's outfit from Burger King and walks into Andrew Cuomo headquarters calling him King Cuomo. Besides all this, he's a great guy.
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He faked his own kidnapping. He wrote up false police claims that he was beaten up by NY Transit Police and several police were disciplined about this lie. He harassed the Gottis so much from his 50,000 Watt transmitter daily that he provoked them to shoot him. He gives the same b.s. speech to everyone, the Armenians, Zionist Jews, Kurds, Palestinians, etc. but he just changes the subject word and leaves the rest of the same, disingenuous speech the same. He believes NOTHING he ever says. He offers none of his Guardian Angels any health coverage if they are injured while patrolling. He patrols only when the TV cameras are there
but when the cameras leave, he leaves leaving his lackeys to risk their lives while he is sleeping tight in his million dollar condo. He makes multimillion dollars from speeches about the Guardian Angels but charges the Angels for uniforms and gives them no money for carfare. He not only cheated on all the wives he had but this time he extorted hundreds of thousands of dollars from wife#3 and bought a life insurance policy with it for wife#4. He's a buffoon who dresses up in a king's outfit from Burger King and walks into Andrew Cuomo headquarters calling him King Cuomo. Besides all this, he's a great guy.
The Guardian Angels is a non-profit international volunteer organization.
They volunteer to patrol the streets so why should they have health coverage for doing it.
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The Guardian Angels is a non-profit international volunteer organization.
They volunteer to patrol the streets so why should they have health coverage for doing it.
Because lazy Curtis makes millions of dollars off of them and he risks nothing because he only patrols when the TV cameras are rolling and when the cameras disappear, so does Curtis leaving his untrained sycophants with no police backup to get injured or killed and they have no coverage since they are ghetto flunkies while WABC and his new radio station give him and his concubine the best health coverage imaginable. I'm not saying another word about Coitus Sleezwa.
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Because lazy Curtis makes millions of dollars off of them and he risks nothing because he only patrols when the TV cameras are rolling and when the cameras disappear, so does Curtis leaving his untrained sycophants with no police backup to get injured or killed and they have no coverage since they are ghetto flunkies while WABC and his new radio station give him and his concubine the best health coverage imaginable. I'm not saying another word about Coitus Sleezwa.
Question: But do you deny his constant and highly public support of Jews and Israel? This support of his carries a lot of weight with me, even to the extent of overlooking some of his other ill-advised actions (like his hoax about being kidnapped -- which he admitted to publicly by stating that he wanted to bring attention to his cause). By the way, the Guardian Angels were welcomed by many communities when walking the streets at night could be very dangerous.
Curtis is raising his children as Jews:
http://www.algemeiner.com/2012/04/15/curtis-sliwa-reveals-secret-family-will-raise-kids-jewish-video/
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I see that there is already a question about this subject on the upcoming "Ask JTF". So I will respond in detail on the program itself.
I will explain why Curtis Sliwa yimach shmo vezichro is a slimy Jew-hater.
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I see that there is already a question about this subject on the upcoming "Ask JTF". So I will respond in detail on the program itself.
On the program, I will explain why Curtis Sliwa yimach shmo vezichro is a slimy Jew-hater.
Curtis is raising his children as Jews:
http://www.algemeiner.com/2012/04/15/curtis-sliwa-reveals-secret-family-will-raise-kids-jewish-video/
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Curtis is raising his children as Jews:
http://www.algemeiner.com/2012/04/15/curtis-sliwa-reveals-secret-family-will-raise-kids-jewish-video/
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Wow! He has two illegitimate children with a self-hating, left-wing, Obama-supporting "Jewish" political prostitute and he then moves in with her and agrees to raise the kids "Jewish".
I put "Jewish" in quotes for Melinda Katz because her father was a self-hating Jew who intermarried. Her mother was not Jewish.
Now Katz is running for Queens Borough President in this September's Democrat primary with the help of Sliwa.
This impresses you?
I haven't even scratched the surface when speaking about this Jew-hating scum. I will go into detail when answering the question on the next program.
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Curtis is raising his children as Jews:
http://www.algemeiner.com/2012/04/15/curtis-sliwa-reveals-secret-family-will-raise-kids-jewish-video/
He says he is going to "use his beret as a yarmulke". He could raise his bastards as Orthodox rabbis and he still would be a rent-a-schmuck.
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Curtis is raising his children as Jews:
http://www.algemeiner.com/2012/04/15/curtis-sliwa-reveals-secret-family-will-raise-kids-jewish-video/
Do you have to argue with everything Chaim says?
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Question: But do you deny his constant and highly public support of Jews and Israel? This support of his carries a lot of weight with me, even to the extent of overlooking some of his other ill-advised actions (like his hoax about being kidnapped -- which he admitted to publicly by stating that he wanted to bring attention to his cause). By the way, the Guardian Angels were welcomed by many communities when walking the streets at night could be very dangerous.
Curtis is raising his children as Jews:
http://www.algemeiner.com/2012/04/15/curtis-sliwa-reveals-secret-family-will-raise-kids-jewish-video/
My final point is that Sliwa does not believe a word of what he says. EVER. He disingenuously sucks up to anybody to get ratings for his disgusting radio programs. He would suck up to Hitler if he landed in 1938 Germany. He is a white Al Sharpton.
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Do you have to argue with everything Chaim says?
Chaim is not HaShem. Anyone is free to disagree with anyone on this forum provided that they are well informed. In this case, Mother plane is not. But is not blasphemy.
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You JTFers still don't get it. I'm surprised that astute Kahanists like you can't see that the only thing this clown will maintain is his pockets and license to b.s. everyone and to not know how to spell marital fidelity. Wake up and smell the gefilte fish. The guy is a b.s. artist. I'm shocked how JTF Kahanists cannot see this. It is a SHONDA. Chaim: please spell it out. You're the only one who can bring out the smelling salts. Am I the only one who's sane here? This guy is a publicity seeking degenerate dirtbag!! If you don't see it, give back your JTF credentials.
Calm down, you're getting your panties in a knot
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Chaim is not HaShem. Anyone is free to disagree with anyone on this forum provided that they are well informed. In this case, Mother plane is not. But is not blasphemy.
Hoosier, you seem like a provocateur. If someone says "A," you say "B." If they then say "B," you criticize them for not saying "A." So what gives?
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Chaim is not HaShem. Anyone is free to disagree with anyone on this forum provided that they are well informed. In this case, Mother plane is not. But is not blasphemy.
Whoa Whoa, who the hell are you?
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Wow! He has two illegitimate children with a self-hating, left-wing, Obama-supporting "Jewish" political prostitute and he then moves in with her and agrees to raise the kids "Jewish".
I put "Jewish" in quotes for Melinda Katz because her father was a self-hating Jew who intermarried. Her mother was not Jewish.
Now Katz is running for Queens Borough President in this September's Democrat primary with the help of Sliwa.
This impresses you?
I haven't even scratched the surface when speaking about this Jew-hating scum. I will go into detail when answering the question on the next program.
I've only heard Curtis praise Jews and praise Israel -- not for years, but for decades already. And, yes, that has impressed me very much. I know nothing about Melinda Katz. If her mother wasn't Jewish and if she didn't convert, then she's not Jewish. That's true. I didn't know this. If Curtis is only pretending and faking his love of Israel and his support of our people and our causes, then I have to say that he's doing a mighty fine job of it. I'll now wait to hear what further points you want to address regarding Curtis's support of Jews and Israel. If he's fooling me, then I'd love to see how he's been doing it.
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Chaim is not HaShem. Anyone is free to disagree with anyone on this forum provided that they are well informed. In this case, Mother plane is not. But is not blasphemy.
I was backing you up dude. Back off.
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I was backing you up dude. Back off.
He has to be our number one friend...
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You mean Ralph, Homo, Jr., or Rosenfag?
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I want to add this: I've always stuck up for Curtis. Because Curtis has always stuck up for our people and for Israel. I'm very loyal that way. You even heard, in that video posted here, that Rabbi call him a Righteous Gentile, which I have always thought him to be (notwithstanding his other personal mishegahses).
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You mean Ralph, Homo, Jr., or Rosenfag?
I'm going to say Rosenberg, because he can't quite get over the rift between him and Chaim.
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I want to add this: I've always stuck up for Curtis. Because Curtis has always stuck up for our people and for Israel. I'm very loyal that way. You even heard, in that video posted here, that Rabbi call him a Righteous Gentile, which I have always thought him to be (notwithstanding his other personal mishegahses).
Not everyone agrees on everything! ;D
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You mean Ralph, Homo, Jr., or Rosenfag?
It seems like he is absolutely a trouble maker and a former JTFer. It's interesting. If these people hate JTF so much, why do they keep coming back?
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I want to add this: I've always stuck up for Curtis. Because Curtis has always stuck up for our people and for Israel. I'm very loyal that way. You even heard, in that video posted here, that Rabbi call him a Righteous Gentile, which I have always thought him to be (notwithstanding his other personal mishegahses).
He's not doing anything wrong by having non-marital relations with his fellow Gentile. The Noahide Laws don't prohibit it. Melinda's father is the one that did something wrong by marrying out. But she is a Gentile product of intermarriage that wasn't her fault. But if she's going to pretend she's Jewish, you can say that part is a problem just like the black Hebros claim to be Jewish when they're not.
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Not everyone agrees on everything! ;D
Of course we don't. But there are certain things that we all DO agree upon, such as the security and territory of אֶרֶץ יִשְׂרָאֵל. We can certainly disagree about Curtis.
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He's not doing anything wrong by having non-marital relations with his fellow Gentile. The Noahide Laws don't prohibit it. Melinda's father is the one that did something wrong by marrying out. But she is a Gentile product of intermarriage that wasn't her fault. But if she's going to pretend she's Jewish, you can say that part is a problem just like the black Hebros claim to be Jewish when they're not.
As I said, I didn't know that Melinda didn't have a Jewish mother and didn't convert. So, yes: Curtis and Melinda should convert to Judaism. Having thought that she was Jewish, it does put a different light on this aspect of the discussion.
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He's not doing anything wrong by having non-marital relations with his fellow Gentile. The Noahide Laws don't prohibit it. Melinda's father is the one that did something wrong by marrying out. But she is a Gentile product of intermarriage that wasn't her fault. But if she's going to pretend she's Jewish, you can say that part is a problem just like the black Hebros claim to be Jewish when they're not.
You know as well as I do that the 7NL prohibit fornication for all persons, not just Jews.
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You know as well as I do that the 7NL prohibit fornication for all persons, not just Jews.
Do you have a source for this?
From what I understand Noachides must not have 'illicit relations' which refer to 10 specific relations which are prohibited...
http://www.noahidenations.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=226:do-not-have-illicit-relations&catid=44:noahide-laws&Itemid=281
Forbidden Sexual Relations encompass the following:
against (a man) having union with his mother;
against (a man) having union with his sister;
against (a man) having union with the wife of his father;
against (a man) having union with another man's wife;
against (a man) copulating with a beast;
against a woman copulating with a beast;
against (a man) lying carnally with a male;
against (a man) lying carnally with his father;
against (a man) lying carnally with his father's brother; and
against engaging in erotic conduct that may lead to a prohibited union.
http://www.jewishanswers.org/ask-the-rabbi-category/from-idolatry-to-conversion/?p=1806
I do not know the answer and would like to see a reference to this prohibition for Noachides.
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What are the three major descriptors of Avodah Zara again?
Idolatry
Sexual transgressions/immorality
and whats the third?
Conversion?
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What are the three major descriptors of Avodah Zara again?
Idolatry
Sexual transgressions/immorality
and whats the third?
Conversion?
No, Avodah Zarah means 'Strange Service' often referred to as 'Strange Worship' or more directly Idol Worship.
I think you refer the the Three Cardinal Sins...
1) Murder
2) Sexual Transgression
3) Idol Worship.
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http://www.aish.com/atr/Big_3_Cardinal_Sins.html
Big 3 Cardinal Sins
I am intrigued by which of the "Big 3 mitzvahs" a Jew is expected to give his life for rather than transgress. What exactly are they, and where do they come from?
The Aish Rabbi Replies:
This is a serious subject with lots of material written on it. We can't possibly learn all the details, but let's try to get a general idea.
Maimonides writes that if a person were to say to a Jew "Violate one of the commandments or I will kill you," the Jew should violate the commandment and not be killed, since that the Torah says "You shall observe My decrees and My laws, so that you shall live by them." The inference from the words "live by them" is that you shall not "die by them!" This however does not apply to three mitzvahs: 1) murder 2) forbidden sexual relations and 3) worship of other gods. (Maimonides - Foundations of the Torah 5:2)
MURDER
Imagine the case: Mike says to Dave: "Either you kill that person, or I will kill you." The law is that Dave must allow himself to be killed rather than kill the other person. The reason is logical, in the language of the Talmud: "What makes you think your blood is redder than his? Perhaps his blood is redder!" Or in other words, "How can you judge between your life and his? Perhaps he is worthier than you!" Since it is impossible to know who is the "better Jew," one has to let the circumstances play out without killing the other person. (Yoma 82b)
This logic applies even if Mike were to say to the inhabitants of a Jewish town, "Give me one Jew to kill, or if you don't, I will kill all of you." Since it is impossible to decide whose blood is the "least red," the town must not give anyone to Butch to be killed, and they must all allow themselves to be killed. (Maimonides - Yesodei HaTorah 5:5)
FORBIDDEN SEXUAL RELATIONS
The reason why someone must allow himself to be killed rather than be involved in forbidden sexual relations, is because the Torah compares rape to murder. (Deuteronomy 22:26, Talmud - Yoma 82a)
IDOL WORSHIP
The reason why one must allow himself to be killed rather than worship other gods comes from a verse in the Shema: "You shall love your God with all your heart, WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, and with all your possessions" (Deuteronomy 6:5). In other words, you should love God so much that you're willing to give up your life to serve him (Talmud - Yoma 82a).
The reason why loving God with all your soul specifically applies to the worship of other gods is because the belief that "God is One," the Creator and Controller of everything, is the basis for all of Judaism. The worship of other gods is a denial of this basic tenant.
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http://steinsaltz.org/learning.php?pg=Daf_Yomi&articleId=2046
The prohibition against Avodah Zarah - idol worship - is the most severe prohibition in the Torah. It includes the belief and worship of all deities whether on their own or in concert with God, whether they are perceived as spiritual, natural forces or animals. Any worship of these deities, whether worshiping the concept, the thing itself or a representative object, is forbidden as Avodah Zarah. This prohibition appears in the Ten Commandments and is repeated throughout the Torah and the books of the prophets. In explanation of the severity of this act it must be understood that idol worship is the antithesis of the most basic Jewish concept, that is, the belief in a single, unique God who rules over all things. The Rabbinic statement that expresses this idea states "Whoever accepts Avodah Zarah denies the entire Torah."
Due to the severity of this prohibition, we find that the Torah commands us not only to refrain from idol worship, but also to destroy it and to stay away from it and from its adherents in a variety of different ways. Thus we are forbidden from following the ways of idol worshipers or attempting to appear like them (see, for example, Vayikra 18:3). The Sages added further limitations whose purpose is to discourage interaction with Avodah Zarah and its followers.
Masechet Avodah Zarah is found in Seder Nezikin as one of the tractates that follows Masechet Sanhedrin, and it expands on the ideas that are found there. While Masechet Sanhedrin focuses on the criminal aspects of Avodah Zarah, the punishments for its worship, and so on, Masechet Avodah Zarah deals with what is permissible and what is forbidden, under what circumstances, etc.
Another interesting aspect of Avodah Zarah that is discussed in Masechet Sanhedrin is the fact that Avodah Zarah is forbidden not only to Jews but to all people of the world, as it is one of the Seven Noachide laws. This impacts on Jews, as well, since they are commanded to destroy the idol worship in the land of Israel and, theoretically, throughout the world. Even if is not within the power of the Jewish people to accomplish this, nevertheless Jews are not allow to support those who want to worship idols or assist them in doing so.
As noted, the focus of Masechet Avodah Zarah is on the need to remove oneself from idol worship and things connected with it. It is forbidden to derive benefit from the idols themselves, as well as their ornaments and donations made to them, and the Sages even decreed a severe level of ritual defilement for coming in contact with them. Similarly, participating in pagan holidays and festivals is forbidden. Much of Masechet Avodah Zarah works at defining the boundaries of what would be forbidden, whether indirect benefit from Avodah Zarah or passive participation in religious ceremonies would be permitted.
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You know as well as I do that the 7NL prohibit fornication for all persons, not just Jews.
http://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=220
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Curtis is a con man. Whether or not he had sex with a phoney Jewess is irrelevant. There are ample things to hate Curtis on irrespective of his sex habits. He is a disingenuous liar, con man, thief, harasser, loudmouth, clown and tuchis kisser. He is like Jim Jones; he tells you what you want to hear even though he doesn't believe a word of it. The Feds tried to convict John Gotti, Jr. on Curtis' testimony three times and failed three times because Curtis has lied so much about so many things, the jury couldn't trust a word out of his mouth even though Gotti, Jr. did indeed order the hit against Curtis and the whole world knows it. I am shocked that JTFers cannot see through this degenerate liar. You "yimach shmo" everybody else. But when someone says, "I love Israel", you kvell with nachus like he's the Meshiach even though the person is a 100% b.s. artist. He laughs at you as he takes your gelt, just like Martin Luther King did. He's playing you like a ukelele. Be a little more inquisitive.
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As I said, I didn't know that Melinda didn't have a Jewish mother and didn't convert. So, yes: Curtis and Melinda should convert to Judaism. Having thought that she was Jewish, it does put a different light on this aspect of the discussion.
Huh? If they both are not Jewish, no need to convert. They or anyone else can convert if they like to but they don't have to.
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Huh? If they both are not Jewish, no need to convert. They or anyone else can convert if they like to but they don't have to.
Curtis Sliwa should NOT convert to Judaism because he would make a BAD JEW. Just like he is a bad husband, a bad father, a bad talk show host, bad CEO of the Guardian Angels and a bad Catholic, he would make a bad Jew.
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Your attitude is objectionable... JTF does not enforce that everyone has to think and say the exact same thing. Everyone is entitled to their opinion on people and things. This is not an echo chamber where everyone imitates and parrots what Chaim says.
I respect Chaim and his opinion but I also listen to others too. I am not a 'fanboy' of anything. I am a thinking adult who learns and grows, but am not ordered to believe one thing or another.
I still have yet to see something which confirms your statement. His divorce doesn't prove a lot... Divorces are dirty (I know from experience) and often the wife will exaggerate in order to get more money in the divorce. My father (OBM) was married three times and he was a righteous and conservative Jew.
I would like to hear what Chaim says about this, and I will make my own decision...
You don't like women very much do you?
I know women who were on the wrong end of men lying in divorce situations.
You made a blanket statement and that is wrong.
Curtis Sliwa has a history of not always being truthful and he is a publicity hound. Those are facts.
http://www.therightperspective.org/2009/02/04/curtis-sliwas-history-of-lies-and-publicity-stunts-part-one/
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Regardless of whether or not Slimebag is a pig, and he is, Hoosier Canuck is clearly a troll, most likely Homo, Jr.
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Regardless of whether or not Slimebag is a pig, and he is, Hoosier Canuck is clearly a troll, most likely Homo, Jr.
You are spreading lashon hara.
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Curtis Sliwa should NOT convert to Judaism because he would make a BAD JEW. Just like he is a bad husband, a bad father, a bad talk show host, bad CEO of the Guardian Angels and a bad Catholic, he would make a bad Jew.
So... What you're saying is Curtis is a good man?
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http://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=220
There is no prohibition for them to have pre-marital sex. There are just prohibited partners. If they live together as if they're married, it makes them Halachically married. When they stop living together, it makes them Halachically divorced.
They have no positive mitzvah to be fruitful and multiply. I also think they are permitted to use all kinds of birth control, even condoms. But abortion is prohibited and is a capital offense. Jews on the other hand can't use condoms. But the woman may use birth control pills.
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There is no prohibition for them to have pre-marital sex. There are just prohibited partners. If they live together as if they're married, it makes them Halachically married. When they stop living together, it makes them Halachically divorced.
They have no positive mitzvah to be fruitful and multiply. I also think they are permitted to use all kinds of birth control, even condoms. But abortion is prohibited and is a capital offense. Jews on the other hand can't use condoms. But the woman may use birth control pills.
I agree with what you say but I do believe when making such statements you should attempt to refer to sources which support your statements.
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There is no prohibition for them to have pre-marital sex. There are just prohibited partners. If they live together as if they're married, it makes them Halachically married. When they stop living together, it makes them Halachically divorced.
They have no positive mitzvah to be fruitful and multiply. I also think they are permitted to use all kinds of birth control, even condoms. But abortion is prohibited and is a capital offense. Jews on the other hand can't use condoms. But the woman may use birth control pills.
Let me make this clear for the last time. Curtis Sliwa is a disgusting, lying, disingenuous unethical con artist. I couldn't care whom he is shtupping. I despise him on other grounds which I have made amply clear. I do not care anything about Melinda Katz or his other "wives". I think at heart he is a schtick dreck- leave his concubines out of it and I could still write a book.
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I agree with what you say but I do believe when making such statements you should attempt to refer to sources which support your statements.
Turn on WNYM - AM 970 The Answer Hackensack, NJ- 6:00 - 10:00 a.m. and 4:00 - 6:00 p.m. - Mon-Fri with a puke bag.
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Turn on WNYM - AM 970 The Answer Hackensack, NJ- 6:00 - 10:00 a.m. and 4:00 - 6:00 p.m. - Mon-Fri with a puke bag.
And I was not talking to you Hoosier... I was talking to Binyamin, who stated a view of Halacha..
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There is no prohibition for them to have pre-marital sex. There are just prohibited partners. If they live together as if they're married, it makes them Halachically married. When they stop living together, it makes them Halachically divorced.
They have no positive mitzvah to be fruitful and multiply. I also think they are permitted to use all kinds of birth control, even condoms. But abortion is prohibited and is a capital offense. Jews on the other hand can't use condoms. But the woman may use birth control pills.
http://www.asknoah.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=220&page=2
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http://www.jewishanswers.org/index.php?p=1806
Marriage and Sex
Every man should marry a woman, and every woman should marry a man since it is written “that it is not good for a man to live alone by himself.” Marriage brings about a partnership between two people and increases the population of the world. In marriage a Noahide will participate and contribute in the building of the world.
Marriage is initiated by the couple’s decision to live together as husband and wife followed by their sexual union. It is worthwhile and enhancing that the two hold a formal marriage ceremony and a marriage feast.
A married couple can divorce even if both don’t agree to the divorce. If the husband sends his wife away from their home declaring that they are no longer married or if the wife leaves their home with a similar declaration they are no longer married. However, Noahides should abide by the laws of the state in which they live in marriage matters. They should therefore also follow any procedures that are required by the laws where they live so that they should be considered divorced also according to these laws. After the divorce, both partners are free to remarry. The marriage also ends if one of the two dies.
According to the Torah, a married woman and another man are not allowed to have sexual or any intimate relations with each other. A man, on the other hand, is allowed to marry more than one wife or concubine. Since the l0th century the Ashkenazic Jews generally have only one wife. Today there are also civil laws in many countries against bigamy, which are to be followed as law for the Noahide. A person is not allowed to have sexual relations with his mother, sisters, maternal aunts from his father or mother’s side, his father’s wife even after the death of his father, daughter, granddaughter, daughter-in-law, mother-in-law and her mother, his wife’s daughters and granddaughters. A person is not allowed to have homosexual relations (man with another man or a woman with another woman). Also a person is not allowed to have sexual relations with animals. This is bestiality.
Rape by a Noahide is a capital offence. There are opinions that, regarding people who are forbidden by the Torah to have sex with one another, the Torah prohibits any physical contact between them that is liable to be stimulating. This would include kissing, hugging and social dancing. It is nevertheless permitted for people to kiss their offspring.
It is worthwhile for men and women to minimize their mingling with one another. For this reason, youth groups and social activities should be organized separately for boys and for girls. In particular, when groups come together for prayer, etc. the men and the women should sit separately.
The purpose of sexual relations is to increase the human race and to strengthen the ties between the married couple. According to the Torah, a husband is called to gratify and satisfy sexually his wife. The same holds true for the wife toward her husband. All this is to strengthen the ties between the married couple. God created men and women with sexual appetite and chemistry. Sex is a blessing from God, and it is not sin in the bounds of permitted sex under the seven laws of Noah.
One should not read pornographic literature or watch pornographic movies. As women who are dressed inappropriately can stimulate men easily, women should dress modestly.
Most authorities are of the opinion that Bnei Noah are not obligated any more to have children. There is a minority view that they are. According to this minority view and the view of Nachmanides, masturbation is prohibited. Also, according to them only the female is allowed to use contraceptives. The ones that would be permitted are foam or pills or similar methods.
It is an ancient custom of Israel to be careful and not to have sexual relations when the woman is having her menstrual period. An Israelite married woman is not allowed to have sexual relations with her husband for seven days, starting from the first day of her menstruation period. After the seven days she must go to a ritual bath, a mikvah, before she resumes having sexual relations with her husband. A Noahide is not called to do so, but it is worthwhile for the couple to abstain from having sexual relations during the woman’s menstrual period.
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They have no positive mitzvah to be fruitful and multiply. I also think they are permitted to use all kinds of birth control, even condoms. But abortion is prohibited and is a capital offense. Jews on the other hand can't use condoms. But the woman may use birth control pills.
Chaim has stated on Ask JTF that all mankind is commanded to reproduce.
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I feel that Curtis is not a phony in his support of Israel. He's always there at the parade and wants Israel to survive.
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A person is not allowed to have homosexual relations (man with another man or a woman with another woman). Also a person is not allowed to have sexual relations with animals. This is bestiality.
Isn't female homosexuality only an Issur d'Rabbanan because it is "the way of Egypt"? How can an Issur D'Rabbanan apply to Noahides? Certainly it is distasteful to take part in such digusting behavior, but it technically is not a Noahide prohibition. For Jews, it is zenut. It's not a Noahide prohibition because it is not d'Oraita. How could it be an actual prohibition if biologically, there is not an actual way for female fags to "have sex". As Chaim says, the pieces don't fit.
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It appears that the mitzvah of 'be fruitful and multiply' is technically not one of the seven Noachide commands. And yet there is a source which indicates that this imperative is intended for all human life...
http://ohr.edu/ask_db/ask_main.php/2/Q1/
In Parshat Vayishlach, you wrote that "There are only three mitzvot in Sefer Bereishit. The first mitzvah, to be fruitful and multiply, is essential to the survival of all of Mankind..." And yet, on the surface, "p'ru ur'vu" is not one of the commandments for the Bnei Noach. Why not?
Dear AT&T,
There are 7 commandments from Hashem for the Bnei Noach to govern their behavior. They are:
1 Prohibition against Prohibition against adultery.
2 idolatry. Prohibition against eating a limb
3 Prohibition against of a live animal.
4 blasphemy. The commandment to establish courts
5 Prohibition against of law.
6 murder.
7 Prohibition against theft.
The Sefer HaChinuch lists the three mitzvot taught in the Book of Bereishit, and writes that they apply only to the Jewish People.
* "Be fruitful and multiply" in Parshat Bereishit.
* "Brit mila" in Parshat Lech Lecha.
* "Don't eat the gid hanashe" in Vayishlach.
Brit mila is a covenant "between Me and you [Avraham] and your seed after you" (Bereishit 17:10). Thus, the Bnei Noach are excluded from this mitzvah.
In Vayishlach, the Torah states "The children of Israel shall not eat the gid hanashe" (Bereishit 31:33). Once again the Bnei Noach are exempted.
The mitzvah to be fruitful and multiply was given to the first Man (Bereishit 1:28) and repeated to Noach (Bereishit 9:1). It would appear equally incumbent upon all Mankind. Yet, this is *not* one of the 7 Noachide Laws.
The Talmud explains that:
"All mitzvot that were given to the Bnei Noach and *repeated* at Sinai, apply to both Jews and non-Jews. Those mitzvot that were given to the Bnei Noach but *not* repeated at Sinai were given only to the Jews."
"P'ru ur'vu" was not repeated at Sinai. So, even though Adam and Noach had been personally commanded to reproduce, the mitzvah did not become one of the 7 Noachide Laws.
It should be noted, however, that there is a special obligation to ensure that the world is fully populated, and that this obligation is equally applicable to Jew and Gentile. It is derived from a verse in the writings of the Prophets which calls upon Mankind inhabit as much of the Creation as possible:
"He [Hashem] did not create the world to be desolate; [rather] to be settled he formed it."
Sources:
* Tractate Sanhedrin, 59a.
* Maimonides, Mishneh Torah, Hilchot Melachim ch. 9.
* Sefer HaChinuch.
* The Path of the Righteous Gentile, by Chaim Clorfene and Yakov Regalsky (Targum Press).
* Isaiah 45.
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The same is true for honouring one's parents. It's not a Noahide Law yet it is proper to do so.
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Isn't female homosexuality only an Issur d'Rabbanan because it is "the way of Egypt"? How can an Issur D'Rabbanan apply to Noahides? Certainly it is distasteful to take part in such digusting behavior, but it technically is not a Noahide prohibition. For Jews, it is zenut. It's not a Noahide prohibition because it is not d'Oraita. How could it be an actual prohibition if biologically, there is not an actual way for female fags to "have sex". As Chaim says, the pieces don't fit.
According to Rabbi Moshe Weiner, it is forbidden and a abomination!
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According to Rabbi Moshe Weiner, it is forbidden and a abomination!
Not according to the Written Law.... Only Male-On-Male sexual relations are spelled out as being an 'abomination'.
As Binyamin said, Lesbian relations are only forbidden via the Oral Law which interprets the command 'not imitate the ways of the mitzrim' as a blanket prohibition against female-on-female sexual relations.
http://www.yoatzot.org/question.php?id=9164
Lesbian relationship
Is it against the torah to have lesbian sex? It is understood that by males it is called an abomination due to waste of seed, but by women, this isn't the case. Is it allowed?
Dear questioner,
Thank you for your question.
Wasting seed is prohibited. However, the Torah's label of "abomination" is applied to the male homosexual act without specific reference to wasting seed (Vayikra 18:22).
Sexual relations between women are prohibited, at least on a rabbinic level. The prohibition is explicit in the Shulchan Aruch (Even HaEzer 20:2). Such relations are also mentioned in a negative context in the Talmud (Yevamot 76a).
Additionally, a steady lesbian relationship may be prohibited by the Torah under the prohibition of maaseh eretz Mitzrayim (Vayikra 18:3).
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From Rambams Mishne Torah, Sefer Kedusha :
http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/960669/jewish/Chapter-Twenty-One.htm
Halacha 8
Lesbian relations are forbidden. This is "the conduct of Egypt" which we were warned against, as [Leviticus 18:3] states: "Do not follow the conduct of Egypt." Our Sages said:22 What would they do? A man would marry a man, a woman would marry a woman, and a woman would marry two men.
Although this conduct is forbidden,23 lashes are not given for it, for it is not a specific prohibition24 and there is no intercourse at all. Therefore such women are not forbidden to marry into the priesthood as zonot, nor does a woman become prohibited to her husband because of this,25 for this is not considered harlotry. It is, however, appropriate to give them stripes for rebellious conduct26 because they performed a transgression. A man should take precautions with his wife with regard to this matter and should prevent women who are known to engage in such practices from visiting her and her from visiting them.
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Well.. Rabbi Weiner published a Noahide Talmud, that was approved by the Chief Rabbi of Israel and others. And it is right in there.
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Well.. Rabbi Weiner published a Noahide Talmud, that was approved by the Chief Rabbi of Israel and others. And it is right in there.
Well, Jews go by the sages of Judaism... And Rambam is considered one of the primary Halachic authorities.
It is clear that the Torah only says that a male-on-male relationship is an abomination, and I will provide the quotations.
Vayikra 18:22
You shall not lie down with a male, as with a woman: this is an abomination.
Vayikra 19:13
And a man who lies with a male as one would with a woman both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon themselves.
Please show me a clear commandment of the Torah which forbids this lesbian relationship, aside from the interpretation of not imitating the way of the Mitzrim?
I have not found any mention of female homosexual relations in the Oral law (doing only a cursory search)... Please provide the tractate and folio where this is supposed to be...
http://www.webshas.org/ishus/homo.htm
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Ok, I can't look anything up right now, but I will. He uses the same verses about Egypt plus Canaan. They were destroyed because of this behavior. Should Noahides act the same way? I think not!
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Thank you Muman
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Not according to the Written Law.... Only Male-On-Male sexual relations are spelled out as being an 'abomination'.
As Binyamin said, Lesbian relations are only forbidden via the Oral Law which interprets the command 'not imitate the ways of the mitzrim' as a blanket prohibition against female-on-female sexual relations.
Is this Oral Law D'Oraita or D'Rabbanan? I thought it's D'Rabbanan. To say it's Oral Law is like G-d gave it Moshe on Har Sinai. I thought it was added by the rabbis like a fence.
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Is this Oral Law D'Oraita or D'Rabbanan? I thought it's D'Rabbanan. To say it's Oral Law is like G-d gave it Moshe on Har Sinai. I thought it was added by the rabbis like a fence.
I don't know specifically whether it was instituted by the rabbis or was part of the Oral law given at Sinai. But it is part of Rambams Mishneh Torah and other books of halacha.
http://www.oztorah.com/2007/08/homosexuality-ask-the-rabbi/
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A quote from Rabbi Weiner: " However, a gentile may not keep them because it is a commandment from G-d, but rather because one is obligated to be a good, moral person.
Likewise, many prohibitions that are commanded upon the Jew are obligations for Gentiles to observe based on logic, such as the prohibitions against hating others, taking revenge or bearing a grudge. A Gentile should observe these prohibitions out of human decency, and not as Divine commandments of their own.
This duty is an absolute obligation upon Gentiles, and they are liable to be punished for transgressing these obligations and for acting against moral and logical ways of practice, as the generation of the flood was punished in the days of Noah."