Baruch Hashem, Ruth Bader Ginsburg (yimach schma vezichra) Has Pancreatic Cancer

[Muck DeFuslims]

"Because of serpents like this, 6 million Jews were murdered during the holocaust. Serpents like this continued to support Roosevelt yimach shmo vezichro as he refused to order the bombing of the rail lines leading to the death camps and the bombing of the death camps themselves."

I once asked my father, who was very conservative and a staunch right winger, why FDR was such a beloved figure. I mean, even after the revelation of FDR's despicable policies concerning the Jews and FDR's socialist leanings and political failures, it was apparent to me my dad didn't hate Roosevelt. This confused me.

My dad told me that you had to have lived through those times to understand why so many people loved and admired Roosevelt and why some still find it hard to totally denounce him.

I guess many of those that lived through the Great Depression and WWII had, and continue to have, a different perspective on things than those who reflect on FDR's presidency in retrospect. I guess it's just very difficult for them to hate a leader that galvanized the nation during WWII and was given credit (however erroneously) for lifting the USA out of the depression.

I remember reading Chaim Potok's novel, The Chosen, -  and even though it's fiction - I believe that it accurately portrayed the grief and dismay most Americans and even good Jews felt when Roosevelt died.

Now don't get me wrong, I have absolutely no problem saying yimach shmo about FDR. I'm just saying that I understand why some people find it difficult to do so. I think these people are foolish and wrong, but I'm not sure they're 'serpents'.

I look at the life of Menachem Begin and although he can never be forgiven for surrendering the Sinai to Sadat, I can't bring myself to say yimach shmo about him. The totality of his life and the many good things he did prevents me from cursing him.

I'm not saying that Ginzburg has ever done anything good to mitigate the evil she has done. Indeed, there's very many people like Ginzburg (and even worse) that thoroughly deserve our enmity and curses.

But in our enthusiasm to denounce our enemies, we should be careful not to go overboard and curse everyone who has ever made a mistake or done evil at one time or another.

That being said, let me conclude by saying yimach shmo to Ginzburg and FDR !

[GoIsraelGo!]

"Because of serpents like this, 6 million Jews were murdered during the holocaust. Serpents like this continued to support Roosevelt yimach shmo vezichro as he refused to order the bombing of the rail lines leading to the death camps and the bombing of the death camps themselves."

I once asked my father, who was very conservative and a staunch right winger, why FDR was such a beloved figure. I mean, even after the revelation of FDR's despicable policies concerning the Jews and FDR's socialist leanings and political failures, it was apparent to me my dad didn't hate Roosevelt. This confused me.

My dad told me that you had to have lived through those times to understand why so many people loved and admired Roosevelt and why some still find it hard to totally denounce him.

I guess many of those that lived through the Great Depression and WWII had, and continue to have, a different perspective on things than those who reflect on FDR's presidency in retrospect. I guess it's just very difficult for them to hate a leader that galvanized the nation during WWII and was given credit (however erroneously) for lifting the USA out of the depression.

I remember reading Chaim Potok's novel, The Chosen, -  and even though it's fiction - I believe that it accurately portrayed the grief and dismay most Americans and even good Jews felt when Roosevelt died.

Now don't get me wrong, I have absolutely no problem saying yimach shmo about FDR. I'm just saying that I understand why some people find it difficult to do so. I think these people are foolish and wrong, but I'm not sure they're 'serpents'.

I look at the life of Menachem Begin and although he can never be forgiven for surrendering the Sinai to Sadat, I can't bring myself to say yimach shmo about him. The totality of his life and the many good things he did prevents me from cursing him.

I'm not saying that Ginzburg has ever done anything good to mitigate the evil she has done. Indeed, there's very many people like Ginzburg (and even worse) that thoroughly deserve our enmity and curses.

But in our enthusiasm to denounce our enemies, we should be careful not to go overboard and curse everyone who has ever made a mistake or done evil at one time or another.

That being said, let me conclude by saying yimach shmo to Ginzburg and FDR !

Hi, your quote was very well put.  I do agree with not everyone should be cursed if they make mistakes. Cursing should be reserved for the truly evil people who never  make repentance for their sins, or show any kind of remorse.

Great post!
                                 
                                                                              Shalom - Dox   

[AsheDina]

"Because of serpents like this, 6 million Jews were murdered during the holocaust. Serpents like this continued to support Roosevelt yimach shmo vezichro as he refused to order the bombing of the rail lines leading to the death camps and the bombing of the death camps themselves."

I once asked my father, who was very conservative and a staunch right winger, why FDR was such a beloved figure. I mean, even after the revelation of FDR's despicable policies concerning the Jews and FDR's socialist leanings and political failures, it was apparent to me my dad didn't hate Roosevelt. This confused me.

My dad told me that you had to have lived through those times to understand why so many people loved and admired Roosevelt and why some still find it hard to totally denounce him.

I guess many of those that lived through the Great Depression and WWII had, and continue to have, a different perspective on things than those who reflect on FDR's presidency in retrospect. I guess it's just very difficult for them to hate a leader that galvanized the nation during WWII and was given credit (however erroneously) for lifting the USA out of the depression.

I remember reading Chaim Potok's novel, The Chosen, -  and even though it's fiction - I believe that it accurately portrayed the grief and dismay most Americans and even good Jews felt when Roosevelt died.

Now don't get me wrong, I have absolutely no problem saying yimach shmo about FDR. I'm just saying that I understand why some people find it difficult to do so. I think these people are foolish and wrong, but I'm not sure they're 'serpents'.

I look at the life of Menachem Begin and although he can never be forgiven for surrendering the Sinai to Sadat, I can't bring myself to say yimach shmo about him. The totality of his life and the many good things he did prevents me from cursing him.

I'm not saying that Ginzburg has ever done anything good to mitigate the evil she has done. Indeed, there's very many people like Ginzburg (and even worse) that thoroughly deserve our enmity and curses.

But in our enthusiasm to denounce our enemies, we should be careful not to go overboard and curse everyone who has ever made a mistake or done evil at one time or another.

That being said, let me conclude by saying yimach shmo to Ginzburg and FDR !

YES Muck!! She is TERRIBLE!!!!

[JewishAmericanPatriot]

I too, never understood the worship my parent's generation had for FDR. I once confronted my father (obm) over it, and asked him back in the 1970s, "If FDR was so great, why didn't he bomb the railways leading to Auschwitz? He KNEW about them well before the war ended!"

Dad had no response.

I curse FDR, even more so lately, because I have been doing some reading and learned more about what he was REALLY like (hint: JUST like Obama, maybe worse.) Ditto for Abe Lincoln, who was really a war criminal and it was good he was bumped off by John Wilkes Booth (we were LIED TO, people, about both these losers!)

There is a really good book that will tell you things about FDR that are unique because they come from the perspective of someone who lived during his times. The book was printed in 1940 and even though it was written by an antisemite of the times (Gerald L K Smith), its spot on in terms of the info contained.

The only place I know to get it is Omni Book Club online; its called TOO MUCH ROOSEVELT by Gerald L K Smith. Maybe Amazon has it used? I have a copy, and its been very eye-opening. Its a good read also, to give you an idea of what Obama is probably going to be like (since he idolizes both FDR and Lincoln).

[Zelhar]

Yes, as far as I know "honoring" our parents does not apply to truly evil parents. It is obvious that there is a difference between Adolf Hitler and Ruth Bader Ginsburg, and average parents or even average bad parents--a big one. G-d does not want us to obey or "honor" ANY wicked person, under any circumstances.

RBG's family has free will, and do not have to support her in the evil things that she does. Abraham chose to exercise his free will and break from the idolatrous ways of his father. Let us all be thankful that he chose not to "honor" his father Terah.

Chaim will agree with this 100%.

You don't understand this correctly. Esav excelled at honoring his Father  Yitzchak, even though Esav was an idol worshiper and murderer. Avraham honored his father Terah even though he was not an idol worshiper.

That is why you were wrong if you cursed Children on ground that they honor their wicked parent.