normal atheist

[Rubystars]

if that's the case.something is very rotten on the white house.

Obama is extremely evil. I'm not saying that just to be silly. I mean it. He's so evil he opposed the born alive provision where babies that were born alive, in say, an abortion clinic, are considered persons under the law and have to be protected. He would rather allow the clinic workers to let them die or kill them even if they are born alive.

Someone that evil should be behind bars to protect society. However this society is so sick and twisted that it voted him in as leader.

[eb22]

Well stated,   Rubystars!


When it comes to Barack Hussein Obama,   I automatically assume that he has evil intentions with any of his decisions or recommendations.    On top of that,   he surrounds himself with individuals who like BHO endanger the United States,   Israel,  and Western Civilization as a whole.    This foreign born individual shouldn't be considered a legitimate President.     

[TruthSpreader]

Well stated,   Rubystars!


When it comes to Barack Hussein Obama,   I automatically assume that he has evil intentions with any of his decisions or recommendations.    On top of that,   he surrounds himself with individuals who like BHO endanger the United States,   Israel,  and Western Civilization as a whole.    This foreign born individual shouldn't be considered a legitimate President.     

Not only is he an illegimate President, he's also an illegimate child.

[MassuhDGoodName]

Re:  "we are today living in a partial democracy when we have a democracy only for a small leftist minority and it's allies."

This is false.

In actual fact, we are living in a nascent leftist dictatorship because of  democracy.

The Founding Fathers did not set up a democracy -- they founded a democratically elected Republic, which is a representative government of Laws, with a Constitution and Bill of Rights which stand as The Supreme Law of the Land.

The representatives were to be democratically elected by the people whom they were to represent.

This is far from a "democracy" -- which is nothing but "Mob Rule", and the Founding Fathers knew democracy for what it was -- catering to the majority opinion, regardless of the law, and regardless of morality.

In a democracy, if the majority of a population decides to outlaw freedom and liberty, they take a vote and it is done.

"Democracy is indispensable to Socialism, and Socialism is indispensable to Communism!" -- V. I. Lenin

Definition of democracy -- Two wolves and a lamb vote - the wolves vote to eat the lamb.

Definition of a republic -- The lamb uses the veto to cancel the votes of the wolves.

[Dr. Dan]

Ben, you have the right idea.

Jews should be with jews and really should be segregated together in Israel (idealistically and according to Torah). Jewish culture is not white nor black nor european nor western nor greco roman nor chinese. We are a people unto ourselves.

My understanding of the olim khadashim in israel are very different from the mizrahi yisraelis. But don't worry, even if the olim have their own type of culture, withina generation or two their children will adapt and become like the predominant mizrahim in Israel. That might include russian olim or even the converts of ethiopian descent.

In the US, its not the case with many Persians and Syrians. And unfortunately if Jews live too long in the US galut, Gd forbid their offspring will assimilate in a bad manner to american westernism. But we shouldn't. We need to be Jews with Jewish values. That has nothing to do with white or black east or west. And so my brother, we should preserve our own Jewish culture, be a light unto other nations so righteous gentiles can follow our lead.
And you know what? Let righteous gentiles choose who they should allow in their countries whether diverse or ethnic or racial. Let's be torah jew kahanists do things the right way for our people who are any race but Jewish. All the others they'll see how well it works and they'll imitate some of the aspects of our ways.

Believe it or not, the forefathers of this country used the light of the Jewish nation and applied it here. 

[Iron Greek]

A great athiest is Geert Wilders

[Ben m]

if that's the case.something is very rotten on the white house.

Obama is extremely evil. I'm not saying that just to be silly. I mean it. He's so evil he opposed the born alive provision where babies that were born alive, in say, an abortion clinic, are considered persons under the law and have to be protected. He would rather allow the clinic workers to let them die or kill them even if they are born alive.

Someone that evil should be behind bars to protect society. However this society is so sick and twisted that it voted him in as leader.

we need to purge american society from human garbage like him.oh and i think i read somewhere that he is actually born in kenya.doesn't that make him an illegal president?

[Ben m]

Re:  "we are today living in a partial democracy when we have a democracy only for a small leftist minority and it's allies."

This is false.

In actual fact, we are living in a nascent leftist dictatorship because of  democracy.

The Founding Fathers did not set up a democracy -- they founded a democratically elected Republic, which is a representative government of Laws, with a Constitution and Bill of Rights which stand as The Supreme Law of the Land.

The representatives were to be democratically elected by the people whom they were to represent.

This is far from a "democracy" -- which is nothing but "Mob Rule", and the Founding Fathers knew democracy for what it was -- catering to the majority opinion, regardless of the law, and regardless of morality.

In a democracy, if the majority of a population decides to outlaw freedom and liberty, they take a vote and it is done.

"Democracy is indispensable to Socialism, and Socialism is indispensable to Communism!" -- V. I. Lenin

Definition of democracy -- Two wolves and a lamb vote - the wolves vote to eat the lamb.

Definition of a republic -- The lamb uses the veto to cancel the votes of the wolves.

well the form of democracy you just talked about is called direct democracy.it can work only in a country with a small population of citizens (something like 6000 citizens).what the us founders wanted to erect is called representive democracy.the problem is that we don't have even the representive democracy but a flawed democracy for leftists and minorities.

[Ben m]

Ben, you have the right idea.

Jews should be with jews and really should be segregated together in Israel (idealistically and according to Torah). Jewish culture is not white nor black nor european nor western nor greco roman nor chinese. We are a people unto ourselves.

My understanding of the olim khadashim in israel are very different from the mizrahi yisraelis. But don't worry, even if the olim have their own type of culture, withina generation or two their children will adapt and become like the predominant mizrahim in Israel. That might include russian olim or even the converts of ethiopian descent.

In the US, its not the case with many Persians and Syrians. And unfortunately if Jews live too long in the US galut, Gd forbid their offspring will assimilate in a bad manner to american westernism. But we shouldn't. We need to be Jews with Jewish values. That has nothing to do with white or black east or west. And so my brother, we should preserve our own Jewish culture, be a light unto other nations so righteous gentiles can follow our lead.
And you know what? Let righteous gentiles choose who they should allow in their countries whether diverse or ethnic or racial. Let's be torah jew kahanists do things the right way for our people who are any race but Jewish. All the others they'll see how well it works and they'll imitate some of the aspects of our ways.

Believe it or not, the forefathers of this country used the light of the Jewish nation and applied it here. 

i agree with you expect to two points:
1) the predominant culture in israel is not a mizrachi one but an ashkenazi one and it is good (don't get me wrong'i don't have anything against certian groups.i am two third mizrachi for the record).i don't want our country to turn into an arab culture state.
2) we don't need segregation from other other nations but not to allow  them to marry us.not even converts.

[Hyades]

Ben:  Sorry to burst your bubble, but "white nationalists" do not and will not ever consider Jews to be white.  No matter how European or even ashkenazi they may look.   That is the harsh reality you need to consider.

Their views are objectively wrong in any case, but this should cause you to reconsider some of the things you've said here about 'restoring' and 'maintaining' the "white race."

well you can start with all the whites in the forum and ask for their opinion about jews. i don't know why but i got a feeling that they all have a very positive opinion about jews.and if you look carefully at the site platform you will see that an important part of the platform is to support a white culture and white america.i also want to add that i want the best for the black people and i am sure that they would be happier in africa than in the states.

May I give you a good example of White Nationalism, as you call it? Okay, here we go: I have a site on deviantart, where I sell my artwork. Once I had some Jewish art also. You WN fellows then bashed me as a "Joo" a "Zionist Pig" and (even being Americans - one of them even with a SPANISH NAME) told me I had to leave Germany nad Europe as a whole because I was undermining it with my "Jooish pig blood".
I am a descent of converted Jews - so "racially" I would be white (and actually I am as white as a Swiss cheese). They would consider me a "Joo" in first place no matter how believing, converted or whatever I was. Being a Jew automatically means losing "white status" for such idiots. Although Jewish is not a race and is not homogenous.
Honestly I think even being white, I could not be white enough to deny that I am Jewish - those who have a problem with it may go to hell or to heaven, doesn't matter, as long as they go.
I would never NEVER NEVER promote WN as something good. If white people think it is good to keep their countries free from mass imigration of lazy, welfare-suckig, fanatic, illiterate and stupid and criminal elements (no matter of which race), I agree and everyone here would agree also. But this is not White Nationalism - this is just common sense! And I am sure that there are many black people who are better for Europe, US or any other country than white Nazis or other decadent douchebags!

[Dr. Dan]

Ben

I guess you know better. But I think mizrahi is going to become a powerful majority in the future.

True Jewish converts are Jews like you and me. The Torah COMMANDS that we love our jewish converts or love thy neighbor. It is ones preference if they don't want to marry a convert, however discouraging it to everyone is a terrible sin and leads to needless hatred which destroys the Jewish people.

Ben, you used to say Jews and gentiles should marry as long as they are white and now you are against jews marrying converts?! A ham sandwich is unkosher on pesach even if it is eaten with matza!!!!

[Ben m]

Ben:  Sorry to burst your bubble, but "white nationalists" do not and will not ever consider Jews to be white.  No matter how European or even ashkenazi they may look.   That is the harsh reality you need to consider.

Their views are objectively wrong in any case, but this should cause you to reconsider some of the things you've said here about 'restoring' and 'maintaining' the "white race."

well you can start with all the whites in the forum and ask for their opinion about jews. i don't know why but i got a feeling that they all have a very positive opinion about jews.and if you look carefully at the site platform you will see that an important part of the platform is to support a white culture and white america.i also want to add that i want the best for the black people and i am sure that they would be happier in africa than in the states.

May I give you a good example of White Nationalism, as you call it? Okay, here we go: I have a site on deviantart, where I sell my artwork. Once I had some Jewish art also. You WN fellows then bashed me as a "Joo" a "Zionist Pig" and (even being Americans - one of them even with a SPANISH NAME) told me I had to leave Germany nad Europe as a whole because I was undermining it with my "Jooish pig blood".
I am a descent of converted Jews - so "racially" I would be white (and actually I am as white as a Swiss cheese). They would consider me a "Joo" in first place no matter how believing, converted or whatever I was. Being a Jew automatically means losing "white status" for such idiots. Although Jewish is not a race and is not homogenous.
Honestly I think even being white, I could not be white enough to deny that I am Jewish - those who have a problem with it may go to hell or to heaven, doesn't matter, as long as they go.
I would never NEVER NEVER promote WN as something good. If white people think it is good to keep their countries free from mass imigration of lazy, welfare-suckig, fanatic, illiterate and stupid and criminal elements (no matter of which race), I agree and everyone here would agree also. But this is not White Nationalism - this is just common sense! And I am sure that there are many black people who are better for Europe, US or any other country than white Nazis or other decadent douchebags!

well you met with white supremacists and not the wn words that briann don't allowed me to write.honestly i don't think there are very much good negroes.they are in generall evil and ignorant and need to be deported back to africa.we have a certain culture and they don't belong here.

[Ben m]

Ben

I guess you know better. But I think mizrahi is going to become a powerful majority in the future.

True Jewish converts are Jews like you and me. The Torah COMMANDS that we love our jewish converts or love thy neighbor. It is ones preference if they don't want to marry a convert, however discouraging it to everyone is a terrible sin and leads to needless hatred which destroys the Jewish people.

Ben, you used to say Jews and gentiles should marry as long as they are white and now you are against jews marrying converts?! A ham sandwich is unkosher on pesach even if it is eaten with matza!!!!

okay,let me clarify my point.i beleive converts don't belong to the jewish people beacuse they don't have jewish genes.it doesn't meant we can't marry with other whites but we don't need to accpet children of converts into the jewish peoplehood.if they will accpet our culture they are welcome but they woud never be a citizen in israel.so every jew that want to marry other whites have to carefully think about this.this is the matter until a white state will rise and then their would be no problems beacuse we all would be considered as whites just whites who belong to a different culture: jewish culture,british culture,canadian culture and so on.

[Maimonides]

Ben

I guess you know better. But I think mizrahi is going to become a powerful majority in the future.

True Jewish converts are Jews like you and me. The Torah COMMANDS that we love our jewish converts or love thy neighbor. It is ones preference if they don't want to marry a convert, however discouraging it to everyone is a terrible sin and leads to needless hatred which destroys the Jewish people.

Ben, you used to say Jews and gentiles should marry as long as they are white and now you are against jews marrying converts?! A ham sandwich is unkosher on pesach even if it is eaten with matza!!!!

okay,let me clarify my point.i beleive converts don't belong to the jewish people beacuse they don't have jewish genes.it doesn't meant we can't marry with other whites but we don't need to accpet children of converts into the jewish peoplehood.if they will accpet our culture they are welcome but they woud never be a citizen in israel.so every jew that want to marry other whites have to carefully think about this.this is the matter until a white state will rise and then their would be no problems beacuse we all would be considered as whites just whites who belong to a different culture: jewish culture,british culture,canadian culture and so on.

Judaism is not about genetics. If someone is a convert they are as Jewish as The Rebbe! A convert's racial and ethnic background does not matter, because as long as they genuinely converted they are Jews. As for the children of converts, as long as their mother is Jewish they too are Jewish. After all, David Melech (KING DAVID), zecher tzadik livracha, was the child of a convert named RUTH, zecher tzadik livracha.

[Ben m]

Ben

I guess you know better. But I think mizrahi is going to become a powerful majority in the future.

True Jewish converts are Jews like you and me. The Torah COMMANDS that we love our jewish converts or love thy neighbor. It is ones preference if they don't want to marry a convert, however discouraging it to everyone is a terrible sin and leads to needless hatred which destroys the Jewish people.

Ben, you used to say Jews and gentiles should marry as long as they are white and now you are against jews marrying converts?! A ham sandwich is unkosher on pesach even if it is eaten with matza!!!!

okay,let me clarify my point.i beleive converts don't belong to the jewish people beacuse they don't have jewish genes.it doesn't meant we can't marry with other whites but we don't need to accpet children of converts into the jewish peoplehood.if they will accpet our culture they are welcome but they woud never be a citizen in israel.so every jew that want to marry other whites have to carefully think about this.this is the matter until a white state will rise and then their would be no problems beacuse we all would be considered as whites just whites who belong to a different culture: jewish culture,british culture,canadian culture and so on.

Judaism is not about genetics. If someone is a convert they are as Jewish as The Rebbe! A convert's racial and ethnic background does not matter, because as long as they genuinely converted they are Jews. As for the children of converts, as long as their mother is Jewish they too are Jewish. After all, David Melech (KING DAVID), zecher tzadik livracha, was the child of a convert named RUTH, zecher tzadik livracha.

yes but this doesn't make david a genuine jew.

[MassuhDGoodName]

Maybe it's just me, but I could swear that there are a few doctrinaire StørmFrønt Nazis here on the forum claiming that they're Jews.     

(and, I might add, not doing a very good job of pulling it off!)     

I'm just waiting patiently for the 'boom to drop' at any moment now, when all of sudden Nazi graffiti and porno filth will be smeared all over our hacked forum, and then I'll have to read all the whining posts from the member Jews here who couldn't spot a Nazi troll even when corresponding with them.     

Perhaps our trolls are so dazzled by their first encounter with intellect that they're in no hurry to complete their mission.     

At the moment, I feel very sorry for them; trying to imagine just what a stunted, oppressive, and pathological upbringing they've experienced.     

But don't worry, it's just a temporary emotion and it will soon pass.           

[Ben m]

Maybe it's just me, but I could swear that there are a few doctrinaire StørmFrønt Nazis here on the forum claiming that they're Jews.     

(and, I might add, not doing a very good job of pulling it off!)     

I'm just waiting patiently for the 'boom to drop' at any moment now, when all of sudden Nazi graffiti and porno filth will be smeared all over our hacked forum, and then I'll have to read all the whining posts from the member Jews here who couldn't spot a Nazi troll even when corresponding with them.     

Perhaps our trolls are so dazzled by their first encounter with intellect that they're in no hurry to complete their mission.     

At the moment, I feel very sorry for them; trying to imagine just what a stunted, oppressive, and pathological upbringing they've experienced.     

But don't worry, it's just a temporary emotion and it will soon pass.           

what? be more specific please.

[Hyades]

Ben

I guess you know better. But I think mizrahi is going to become a powerful majority in the future.

True Jewish converts are Jews like you and me. The Torah COMMANDS that we love our jewish converts or love thy neighbor. It is ones preference if they don't want to marry a convert, however discouraging it to everyone is a terrible sin and leads to needless hatred which destroys the Jewish people.

Ben, you used to say Jews and gentiles should marry as long as they are white and now you are against jews marrying converts?! A ham sandwich is unkosher on pesach even if it is eaten with matza!!!!

okay,let me clarify my point.i beleive converts don't belong to the jewish people beacuse they don't have jewish genes.it doesn't meant we can't marry with other whites but we don't need to accpet children of converts into the jewish peoplehood.if they will accpet our culture they are welcome but they woud never be a citizen in israel.so every jew that want to marry other whites have to carefully think about this.this is the matter until a white state will rise and then their would be no problems beacuse we all would be considered as whites just whites who belong to a different culture: jewish culture,british culture,canadian culture and so on.

If you are so obsessed with genetics, go and study some. Because there aren't any Jewish genes. In earliest times of Eretz Yisrael there were many converted Canaanites, other ancient people converted through history also. And no one can say for sure if the Hebrews themselves were not a mixture of races also. And this does not matter. If you think it's about genes, then the small minority of Greek Orthodox Albanians are either no Albanians or no Greek Orthodox. A Roman Catholic would have to be at least Italian (who are a mixture of many races also), a Protestant would have to be German and as a German he would have to be from Lutter's region, since Germans themselves are not a single race or ethnicity either. All the Russian Orthodox people in Ukraine are surely pleased to know that they cannot be Russian Orthodox because they are Ukrainians.
And your white State will not raise - never! The white people aren't even able to run a union of countries like the EU properly. Even less something like a white state. And I wonder what is white for you. At least most Spaniards, Italians, Portuguese and Greeks I know are neither very white nor are they in any case "similar" to any of the Northern, Western and East European people. I think you WN is an evil possession rather than a logic thinking.
Your windyfront partners will never acept you, and you should accept that also. They will keep on rejecting you as a "Joo". You either go on and try to convice yourself that there is something supreme to be defended against dark tan or you just accept, that the tan is not as important as the character of a person.
If I had the choice to sit down on a table with a black person or a Nazi, I would surely prefer the black person. Your choice would be different because the Nazi would surely find your racial views very inviting - and afterwards would tell you to hang yourself up for not belonging to his supreme race. And there is no such thing as good WN, there is either white people aware of their culture and tradition or there is white people who judge people by their tan - then they are supremacist Nazi scum.

[IsraeliGovtAreKapos]

Ben

I guess you know better. But I think mizrahi is going to become a powerful majority in the future.

True Jewish converts are Jews like you and me. The Torah COMMANDS that we love our jewish converts or love thy neighbor. It is ones preference if they don't want to marry a convert, however discouraging it to everyone is a terrible sin and leads to needless hatred which destroys the Jewish people.

Ben, you used to say Jews and gentiles should marry as long as they are white and now you are against jews marrying converts?! A ham sandwich is unkosher on pesach even if it is eaten with matza!!!!

okay,let me clarify my point.i beleive converts don't belong to the jewish people beacuse they don't have jewish genes.it doesn't meant we can't marry with other whites but we don't need to accpet children of converts into the jewish peoplehood.if they will accpet our culture they are welcome but they woud never be a citizen in israel.so every jew that want to marry other whites have to carefully think about this.this is the matter until a white state will rise and then their would be no problems beacuse we all would be considered as whites just whites who belong to a different culture: jewish culture,british culture,canadian culture and so on.

Judaism is not about genetics. If someone is a convert they are as Jewish as The Rebbe! A convert's racial and ethnic background does not matter, because as long as they genuinely converted they are Jews. As for the children of converts, as long as their mother is Jewish they too are Jewish. After all, David Melech (KING DAVID), zecher tzadik livracha, was the child of a convert named RUTH, zecher tzadik livracha.

yes but this doesn't make david a genuine jew.

He's more Jewish than you will ever be you racist fool.

[Dr. Dan]

Ben, all human genes are the same and all are animal genes. A jew is a jew by the way he thinks and acts and not by a half gene or pure gene. You are hardly a Jew because you don't think or act like one and are acting and thinking like a self hating Jew who is a Nazi wannabe

I'm considering the possibility of assuming you are a nazi troll or simply an uneducated "arse" or "arse wanna-be" like many Jews in Bat Yam.

I'm ashamed to hear that blasphemy that you think king david was hardly a jew. Shame on you!!!

[Ben m]

Ben, all human genes are the same and all are animal genes. A jew is a jew by the way he thinks and acts and not by a half gene or pure gene. You are hardly a Jew because you don't think or act like one and are acting and thinking like a self hating Jew who is a Nazi wannabe

I'm considering the possibility of assuming you are a nazi troll or simply an uneducated "arse" or "arse wanna-be" like many Jews in Bat Yam.

I'm ashamed to hear that blasphemy that you think king david was hardly a jew. Shame on you!!!

okay let's clarify one point: i personally don't belive that king david ever exist.there is lack of evidence on the toppic but i think we should better adopt some other great cultural heroes al abraham,noah,saul,yehuda the macabee and so on that gave a lot of proud to our people.

[muman613]

Ben, all human genes are the same and all are animal genes. A jew is a jew by the way he thinks and acts and not by a half gene or pure gene. You are hardly a Jew because you don't think or act like one and are acting and thinking like a self hating Jew who is a Nazi wannabe

I'm considering the possibility of assuming you are a nazi troll or simply an uneducated "arse" or "arse wanna-be" like many Jews in Bat Yam.

I'm ashamed to hear that blasphemy that you think king david was hardly a jew. Shame on you!!!

okay let's clarify one point: i personally don't belive that king david ever exist.there is lack of evidence on the toppic but i think we should better adopt some other great cultural heroes al abraham,noah,saul,yehuda the macabee and so on that gave a lot of proud to our people.

Oh please... King David most obviously existed... If you don't believe he existed then you don't believe that the Holy Temple ever stood {and yet there is ample archeological evidence that the Temple stood}. Also the entire Jewish belief revolves around the belief that the Moshiach will come from King Davids progeny...

You obviously are a lost soul, and a questionable Jew..

http://www.aish.com/jw/j/48961251.html

The world of archeology is rocked by evidence of King David's palace unearthed in Jerusalem.

How Jewish is Jerusalem?

You might think that's a silly question, but in the world of academia, revisionist history and even biblical archaeology, scholars have cast the shadow of doubt over Judaism's intrinsic connection to Jerusalem. The Moslem Waqf, the religious authority that administers the Temple Mount -- the site of Judaism's First and Second Temples -- has been claiming for years that there was never a temple there. But the idea that Israel is the historic homeland of the Jewish people and Jerusalem its holy capital has been under attack from far more reputable sources in recent decades as well.

For a growing number of academics and intellectuals, King David and his united kingdom of Judah and Israel, which has served for 3,000 years as an integral symbol of the Jewish nation, is simply a piece of fiction. The biblical account of history has been dismissed as unreliable by a cadre of scholars, some of whom have an overtly political agenda, arguing that the traditional account was resurrected by the Zionists to justify dispossessing Palestinian Arabs. The most outspoken of these is Keith Whitelam of the Copenhagen School which promotes an agenda of "biblical minimalism," whose best-known work is The Invention of Ancient Israel: The Silencing of Palestinian History.

    Finkelstein claims that the myth of King David was the creation of a cult of priests trying to create for themselves a glorious history.

Even in Israel, this new school has found its voice. Israel Finkelstein, chairman of Tel Aviv University's Department of Archaeology, began championing a theory several years ago that the biblical accounts of Jerusalem as the seat of a powerful, unified monarchy under the rule of David and Solomon are essentially false. The scientific methods for his assumptions, called a "lower dating" which essentially pushes archaeological evidence into a later century and thus erases all evidence of a Davidic monarchy, were laughed off by traditional archaeologists. But his book, The Bible Unearthed, wound up on the New York Times' best-seller list and he became the darling of a sympathetic media. He concluded that David and Solomon, if they existed at all, were merely "hill-country chieftains" and Jerusalem a poor, small tribal village. He claims that the myth of King David was the creation of a cult of priests trying to create for themselves a glorious history.

...

Biblical References

The City of David is essentially the ancient nucleus of Jerusalem, located just south of the mountain on which the Holy Temples stood. From here the rest of the city as we know it grew and developed over the course of history. According to tradition, the first significant event that occurred there was the meeting between Abraham and Malki-tzedek, King of Shalem. King David, divinely directed, chose this city as the capital of his united kingdom. And the more archaeologists uncover and identify, the easier it is becoming to form a complete picture of the people who lived there -- with the pivotal Jewish history of the First Temple period, described in the Prophets, played out in its structures and installations.

The Bible says that King David brought G-d's Tabernacle to its final home in this original Jerusalem, expanded the city, and made it the spiritual and economic capital of the world at that time. According to Jewish tradition, he fulfilled G-d's master plan for a spiritual monarchy that would endure until the final Redemption.

"The construction that we found was a complicated and intricate engineering operation that must have required immense resources, and the dating matches," says Mazar. "This is the kind of step one would expect of a new ruler who wants to turn the city he conquered into his permanent residence, and who has an exceptional vision of the future development of the city."

According to the Bible, David's palace was constructed by Hiram, King of Tyre, the contemporary Phoenician ruler and his ally against the Philistines. Mazar, an expert in Phoenician construction from her excavations at Achziv on Israel's northern coast, attests that this building bears the mark of Phoenician construction, not likely to be found otherwise in the Judean hills.

In fact, quite a bit about David's palace is known from the Bible itself. It was a "house of cedars" built by Phoenician builders (2-Samuel 5:11 and 1-Chronicles 14:1) who used the cedars of Lebanon and developed a distinct style of stone masonry. Remains of pillars and decorative stone capitals in this particular style were discovered at the site years before, which was one clue Mazar used to look for the palace.

BTW, you know King David wrote the book of Psalms, don't you?

[muman613]

More about David HaMelech...

http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/david_the_king/

King David is one of the most important figures in Jewish history. Born in 907 BCE, he reigns as king of Israel for 40 years, dying at age 70 in 837 BCE.

There is so much that can be said about him. Some people like to focus on the warrior aspect—the chivalrous warrior fighting for God—but when his persona and accomplishments are considered as a whole, it is his spiritual greatness that shines most of all.

David’s first and foremost drive is to have a relationship with God. We get the glimpse of the beauty of his soul when we read the Psalms, most of which he wrote. Who doesn’t know:

The Lord is my shepherd I shall not want ... (Psalm 23)
The Lord is my light and my salvation, whom should I fear ... (Psalm 27)
I lift my eyes to the mountains—from where will my help come? My help comes from the Lord, Maker of heaven and earth ... (Psalm 121)

Even when we consider his military conquest, we see that the driving force behind them was his attachment to God. The hereditary bloodline of King David will become the only legitimate royal bloodline in Jewish history. From David will come all the future kings of Judah and ultimately, at the end of history, the Messiah. This idea of a God-ordained monarchy will be copied by many other nations throughout history and will serve as the basis for the concept of “the divine right of kings” in Medieval and Renaissance Europe.(1)

[Dr. Dan]

WHAT?!?!?!?  You are less likely to be a genuine Jew than King David's existence.


Of course he existed and of course you are still an athiest..If you want to learn Judaism, you have to let go of your past beliefs 100%...you are a backward thinking person.

Ben, all human genes are the same and all are animal genes. A jew is a jew by the way he thinks and acts and not by a half gene or pure gene. You are hardly a Jew because you don't think or act like one and are acting and thinking like a self hating Jew who is a Nazi wannabe

I'm considering the possibility of assuming you are a nazi troll or simply an uneducated "arse" or "arse wanna-be" like many Jews in Bat Yam.

I'm ashamed to hear that blasphemy that you think king david was hardly a jew. Shame on you!!!

okay let's clarify one point: i personally don't belive that king david ever exist.there is lack of evidence on the toppic but i think we should better adopt some other great cultural heroes al abraham,noah,saul,yehuda the macabee and so on that gave a lot of proud to our people.

[Mishmaat]

okay let's clarify one point: i personally don't belive that king david ever exist.there is lack of evidence on the toppic but i think we should better adopt some other great cultural heroes al abraham,noah,saul,yehuda the macabee and so on that gave a lot of proud to our people.

I'd like to believe that you don't exist. But unfortunately you're real and you're really nuts.