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Geert Wilders and Marine Le Pen May Join Forces
« on: October 17, 2013, 02:46:12 PM »
I like Wilders very much but Le Pen concerns me, in large part due to her nazi father Jean-Marie Le Pen.

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Re: Geert Wilders and Marine Le Pen May Join Forces
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2013, 02:55:58 PM »
I like Wilders very much but Le Pen concerns me, in large part due to her nazi father Jean-Marie Le Pen.

http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/geert-wilders-and-marine-le-pen-may-join-forces/

There we go again.... Le Pen is anti-racism and she turned the party another way. Geert Wilders should never ever work together with someone that is anti-semitic or anti-Israel. Great that this 2 fantastic people work together now. A real European frontline against the islamization!
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« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2013, 02:59:11 PM »
The JTF says its a sin for a Jew to live outside of Israel, but if Le Pen's father one's tried to ban the yarmulke we all have to shout and be mad. I don't think we should ban this in Europe... I only say it's hypocrite to say one thing but concern about the other.
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Re: Geert Wilders and Marine Le Pen May Join Forces
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2013, 03:16:22 PM »
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LePen is a Nazi Jew-hater. If Wilders does this, he will lose our support.

For purely tactical reasons, she is trying to change her party's Nazi image. She herself has admitted that this is just tactical.

To prove that she is a typical Jew-hater, she condemned the right of the Jews to settle in their own historic homeland. In an interview with the radical left newspaper Haaretz, she was asked about the relationship between Jewish settlers and some European parties. Here was her response:

"The shared concern about radical Islam explains the relationship ... but it is possible that behind it is also the need of the visitors from Europe to change their image in their countries ... As far as their partners in Israel are concerned, I myself don't understand the idea of continuing to develop the settlements. I consider it a political mistake and would like to make it clear in this context that we must have the right to criticize the policy of the State of Israel – just as we are allowed to criticize any sovereign country – without it being considered anti-Semitism. After all, the National Front has always been Zionistic and always defended Israel's right to exist".

This lying pig is hypernationalistic when it comes to France, but when Jews want to settle in their Biblical homeland, she is against it. In other words, the Jews are not allowed to be nationalistic or even do the minimum that is required to survive. She is super right-wing for France but when it comes to Israel, she suddenly becomes a leftist. This double standard applied to the Jews is always absolute proof of vicious anti-Semitism.

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« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2013, 03:41:52 PM »
How about Wilders front together with 'Vlaams Belang' with Filip de Winter? I know they got a lot of votes from the Jewish people in Antwerp, but Filip de Winter was against the Jewish people in his younger years... Now he work together with them.
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Re: Geert Wilders and Marine Le Pen May Join Forces
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2013, 02:41:31 PM »
I think it would be a big miscalculation for Wilders to join forces with the Fascists and Nazis of Europe. He won't cleanse them, but their stench will stain his party. Right now he is almost a mainstream party in Holland with a shot of becoming premier or at least a senior partner in a ruling coalition.

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« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2013, 03:53:05 PM »
I think it would be a big miscalculation for Wilders to join forces with the Fascists and Nazis of Europe. He won't cleanse them, but their stench will stain his party. Right now he is almost a mainstream party in Holland with a shot of becoming premier or at least a senior partner in a ruling coalition.

Maybe I shouldn't care about the fate of France.  But France is poised to be become a majority muslim country in a generation or two.  And France has nuclear weapons, as well as other advanced military technology.  A muslim dominated France will therefore pose an existential threat to Israel and the U.S.   I don't like Marine Le Pen; she's a phony and hypocritical, and probably an anti semite. But who else in France is willing to take even moderate or tepid actions against the muslim invaders? 

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« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2013, 05:12:10 PM »
Maybe I shouldn't care about the fate of France.  But France is poised to be become a majority muslim country in a generation or two.  And France has nuclear weapons, as well as other advanced military technology.  A muslim dominated France will therefore pose an existential threat to Israel and the U.S.   I don't like Marine Le Pen; she's a phony and hypocritical, and probably an anti semite. But who else in France is willing to take even moderate or tepid actions against the muslim invaders? 

They need to start a new party (or perhaps there is one I haven't heard of). All that these no-fascists do is sabotage any chance for a real right wing party. They will never save France from being run over by Islamic immigration. Despite their sometime hostile rhetoric these are dumb Nazis and they are often willing to ally themselves with Islamonazis, I guess to join in against their favorite enemy- the Jews.



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Re: Geert Wilders and Marine Le Pen May Join Forces
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2013, 05:53:46 PM »
The JTF says its a sin for a Jew to live outside of Israel, but if Le Pen's father one's tried to ban the yarmulke we all have to shout and be mad. I don't think we should ban this in Europe... I only say it's hypocrite to say one thing but concern about the other.

Rather than shout and be mad, I would like to punch you in the face.

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« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2013, 07:45:59 PM »
I wouldn't support Marine Le Pen -- she is of Nazi lineage, it's in her blood, and if the shiite hit the fan she would probably side with the muslims over the jews.  But the French leftists are just as bad, maybe worse, and the purported "moderates" or whatever the hell they are do nothing about the muslim invasion.  French Jews should get the hell out of there.
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« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2013, 09:50:48 AM »
My view on Le Pen family is very positive.  8)
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Re: Geert Wilders and Marine Le Pen May Join Forces
« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2013, 07:33:42 PM »
Rather than shout and be mad, I would like to punch you in the face.

Bring it on. You are a lowlife peace of [censored]! I love to kick your coward ass up! You are a little hypocrite and you like to punch me in the face because you can't handle the truth.
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« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2013, 07:39:00 PM »
My view on Le Pen family is very positive.  8)

Thank you brother. The world is not only about Jews. (some of them on this forum think it is). I think Le Pen is the best leader French can have right now... Geert Wilders NEEDS a alliance to break through. I know some silly cry baby's on this forum have to cry and moaning about this but i think they don't know a lot about the situation in Europe. They all believe in a Israel for the Jews, Christmas threes should be banned, but if we ban religious Jewish clothes in French we are nazi's.... I'am getting pretty sick of this hypocrite rascist behaviour on this forum.
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Re: Geert Wilders and Marine Le Pen May Join Forces
« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2013, 08:09:46 PM »
I warned you guys about this atheist before. I know socialist who want to destroy Israel that can be honest about pisslam.

To Serbian army and Mentalita, you're out of your minds. If a political leader said we want to help Jews but Kosovo is great, I wouldn't trust him for a second. If someone hates Jews, you know that he's going to go after other unrighteous causes. And pappy Lepen is an outspoken Nazi. Here is the European equivilent of Ronnie and Randy Putz. They are both the same, but the youth understand how to get support for their insanity with lies.

As for people trusting the atheist Geert who wants to ban circumcision, as I've stated, these kinds of people are the reason why pisslam has gained power. They may turn around and realize it, but they attack it not for righteousness, but because they don't want to leave their evil path.
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Re: Geert Wilders and Marine Le Pen May Join Forces
« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2013, 08:16:49 PM »
Thank you brother. The world is not only about Jews. (some of them on this forum think it is). I think Le Pen is the best leader French can have right now... Geert Wilders NEEDS a alliance to break through. I know some silly cry baby's on this forum have to cry and moaning about this but i think they don't know a lot about the situation in Europe. They all believe in a Israel for the Jews, Christmas threes should be banned, but if we ban religious Jewish clothes in French we are nazi's.... I'am getting pretty sick of this hypocrite rascist behaviour on this forum.

So if that's how you feel, then why are you here?

Also, since this is a Jewish zionist forum, of course we're going to discuss issues in terms of how they affect Jews all over the world. 

And since we believe that Israel is Jewish land, that doesn't mean we have to accept anti-semitism in other countries. 

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« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2013, 08:23:43 PM »
I warned you guys about this atheist before. I know socialist who want to destroy Israel that can be honest about pisslam.

To Serbian army and Mentalita, you're out of your minds. If a political leader said we want to help Jews but Kosovo is great, I wouldn't trust him for a second. If someone hates Jews, you know that he's going to go after other unrighteous causes. And pappy Lepen is an outspoken Nazi. Here is the European equivilent of Ronnie and Randy Putz. They are both the same, but the youth understand how to get support for their insanity with lies.

As for people trusting the atheist Geert who wants to ban circumcision, as I've stated, these kinds of people are the reason why pisslam has gained power. They may turn around and realize it, but they attack it not for righteousness, but because they don't want to leave their evil path.

Geert Wilders is there for the DUTCH people! I don't give a [censored] atheist or not. The most important thing in the world is my people and my country. Isnt that normal?
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« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2013, 08:34:01 PM »
I warned you guys about this atheist before. I know socialist who want to destroy Israel that can be honest about pisslam.

To Serbian army and Mentalita, you're out of your minds. If a political leader said we want to help Jews but Kosovo is great, I wouldn't trust him for a second. If someone hates Jews, you know that he's going to go after other unrighteous causes. And pappy Lepen is an outspoken Nazi. Here is the European equivilent of Ronnie and Randy Putz. They are both the same, but the youth understand how to get support for their insanity with lies.

As for people trusting the atheist Geert who wants to ban circumcision, as I've stated, these kinds of people are the reason why pisslam has gained power. They may turn around and realize it, but they attack it not for righteousness, but because they don't want to leave their evil path.


Ok, but if not Geert Wilders, then who?  Who else is there to work with in Europe?  Wilders has said so many wonderful things about Israel, the Jewish people, and he has a realistic understanding of the Islamic menace.  For example:

Wilders stated about Israel: "I have visited many interesting countries in the Middle East – from Syria to Egypt, from Tunisia to Turkey, from Cyprus to Iran – but nowhere did I have the special feeling of solidarity that I always get when I land at Ben Gurion International Airport."

Wilders told an audience during the report that "We [in the West] are all Israel". He has also said "Israel is the West's first line of defence" against what he perceives to be a threat posed by Islam.

Wilders said Jordan should be renamed Palestine.The Jordanian government responded saying Wilders' speech was reminiscent of the Israeli right wing. He also said Israel deserves a special status in the Dutch government because it was fighting for "Jerusalem" in its name.

He said: "If Jerusalem falls into the hands of the Muslims, Athens and Rome will be next. Thus, Jerusalem is the main front protecting the West. It is not a conflict over territory but rather an ideological battle, between the mentality of the liberated West and the ideology of Islamic barbarism. There has been an independent Palestinian state since 1946, and it is the kingdom of Jordan."

He called on the Dutch government to refer to Jordan as Palestine and move its embassy to Jerusalem.

He called the prophet Muhammad a "barbarian, a mass murderer, and a pedophile" and referred to Islam as a "fascist ideology" which was "violent, dangerous, and retarded". Wilders also reportedly called Turkish Prime Minister Erdoğan a "total freak".

In the spring of 2009, Wilders launched the "Facing Jihad World Tour", a series of screenings of Fitna to public officials and influential organizations around the globe, starting in Rome. In the United States, Wilders showed the film to the United States Congress on 26 February having been invited by Arizona Republican Senator Jon Kyl. Around 40 people attended the screening. American Muslims protested, to no avail.  Wilders spoke at the Conservative Political Action Conference on 28 February. He appeared before the National Press Club and the Republican Jewish Coalition that week as well.

Wilders suggests that Muslims should "tear out half of the Koran if they wished to stay in the Netherlands" because it contains "terrible things" and that Muhammad would "... in these days be hunted down as a terrorist".

He believes that all Muslim immigration to the Netherlands should be halted and all settled immigrants should be paid to leave.Referring to the increased population of Muslims in the Netherlands, he has said:

Take a walk down the street and see where this is going. You no longer feel like you are living in your own country. There is a battle going on and we have to defend ourselves. Before you know it there will be more mosques than churches!

In a speech before the Dutch Parliament, he stated:

Islam is the Trojan Horse in Europe. If we do not stop Islamification now, Eurabia and Netherabia will just be a matter of time.

AND GET THIS:   Wilders was extensively discussed in American diplomatic cables, released by WikiLeaks in December 2010. In a briefing to President Barack Obama, he was described as "no friend of the US: he opposes Dutch military involvement in Afghanistan; he believes development assistance is money wasted; he opposes NATO missions outside 'allied' territory; he is against most EU initiatives; and, most troubling, he foments fear and hatred of immigrants."


YOU REALLY THINK WILDERS IS A BAD GUY?????

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« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2013, 08:42:24 PM »

Ok, but if not Geert Wilders, then who?  Who else is there to work with in Europe?  Wilders has said so many wonderful things about Israel, the Jewish people, and he has a realistic understanding of the Islamic menace.  For example:

Wilders stated about Israel: "I have visited many interesting countries in the Middle East – from Syria to Egypt, from Tunisia to Turkey, from Cyprus to Iran – but nowhere did I have the special feeling of solidarity that I always get when I land at Ben Gurion International Airport."

Wilders told an audience during the report that "We [in the West] are all Israel". He has also said "Israel is the West's first line of defence" against what he perceives to be a threat posed by Islam.

Wilders said Jordan should be renamed Palestine.The Jordanian government responded saying Wilders' speech was reminiscent of the Israeli right wing. He also said Israel deserves a special status in the Dutch government because it was fighting for "Jerusalem" in its name.

He said: "If Jerusalem falls into the hands of the Muslims, Athens and Rome will be next. Thus, Jerusalem is the main front protecting the West. It is not a conflict over territory but rather an ideological battle, between the mentality of the liberated West and the ideology of Islamic barbarism. There has been an independent Palestinian state since 1946, and it is the kingdom of Jordan."

He called on the Dutch government to refer to Jordan as Palestine and move its embassy to Jerusalem.

He said all kind of wonderfull things, but that doesnt matter anymore... He works together wit nazi's now.
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« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2013, 08:45:26 PM »
So if that's how you feel, then why are you here?

Also, since this is a Jewish zionist forum, of course we're going to discuss issues in terms of how they affect Jews all over the world. 

And since we believe that Israel is Jewish land, that doesn't mean we have to accept anti-semitism in other countries.

It's a sin for a Jew to live outside of Israel... That are the words of JTF, not my words. So if Jews in French are not alout to walk around with a Yarmuke anymore, is that anti-semitism or do they deserve it as they are sinners like the JTF call them?
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« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2013, 08:46:57 PM »
Geert Wilders is there for the DUTCH people! I don't give a [censored] atheist or not. The most important thing in the world is my people and my country. Isnt that normal?

Yes, he says that. The point he is does what you're accusing us of. He's not fighting pisslam in support of the Dutch people because it's moral, he's doing it for selfish desires, like wanting to keep up the increasingly decadent and insane culture.

With a foundation of doing what benefits him, how can you know he'll stick to what is right, or even do things that are beneficial to the Dutch after he is given power?
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« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2013, 08:47:46 PM »
It's a sin for a Jew to live outside of Israel... That are the words of JTF, not my words. So if Jews in French are not alout to walk around with a Yarmuke anymore, is that anti-semitism or do they deserve it as they are sinners like the JTF call them?

It is absolutely a sin. Looks like there will be one less tourist destination, however.
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« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2013, 08:48:50 PM »
Geert Wilders said not long ago that he now likes to work together with the Front National of LePen as they took distance from any kind of anti-semitism... Isnt this enough?
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« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2013, 08:50:06 PM »
Yes, he says that. The point he is does what you're accusing us of. He's not fighting pisslam in support of the Dutch people because it's moral, he's doing it for selfish desires, like wanting to keep up the increasingly decadent and insane culture.

With a foundation of doing what benefits him, how can you know he'll stick to what is right, or even do things that are beneficial to the Dutch after he is given power?

He is men of the people. He stand for his believes and he realy want to change Holland.
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« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2013, 08:50:45 PM »

Ok, but if not Geert Wilders, then who?  Who else is there to work with in Europe?  Wilders has said so many wonderful things about Israel, the Jewish people, and he has a realistic understanding of the Islamic menace.  For example:

Wilders stated about Israel: "I have visited many interesting countries in the Middle East – from Syria to Egypt, from Tunisia to Turkey, from Cyprus to Iran – but nowhere did I have the special feeling of solidarity that I always get when I land at Ben Gurion International Airport."

Wilders told an audience during the report that "We [in the West] are all Israel". He has also said "Israel is the West's first line of defence" against what he perceives to be a threat posed by Islam.

Wilders said Jordan should be renamed Palestine.The Jordanian government responded saying Wilders' speech was reminiscent of the Israeli right wing. He also said Israel deserves a special status in the Dutch government because it was fighting for "Jerusalem" in its name.

He said: "If Jerusalem falls into the hands of the Muslims, Athens and Rome will be next. Thus, Jerusalem is the main front protecting the West. It is not a conflict over territory but rather an ideological battle, between the mentality of the liberated West and the ideology of Islamic barbarism. There has been an independent Palestinian state since 1946, and it is the kingdom of Jordan."

He called on the Dutch government to refer to Jordan as Palestine and move its embassy to Jerusalem.

He called the prophet Muhammad a "barbarian, a mass murderer, and a pedophile" and referred to Islam as a "fascist ideology" which was "violent, dangerous, and retarded". Wilders also reportedly called Turkish Prime Minister Erdoğan a "total freak".

In the spring of 2009, Wilders launched the "Facing Jihad World Tour", a series of screenings of Fitna to public officials and influential organizations around the globe, starting in Rome. In the United States, Wilders showed the film to the United States Congress on 26 February having been invited by Arizona Republican Senator Jon Kyl. Around 40 people attended the screening. American Muslims protested, to no avail.  Wilders spoke at the Conservative Political Action Conference on 28 February. He appeared before the National Press Club and the Republican Jewish Coalition that week as well.

Wilders suggests that Muslims should "tear out half of the Koran if they wished to stay in the Netherlands" because it contains "terrible things" and that Muhammad would "... in these days be hunted down as a terrorist".

He believes that all Muslim immigration to the Netherlands should be halted and all settled immigrants should be paid to leave.Referring to the increased population of Muslims in the Netherlands, he has said:

Take a walk down the street and see where this is going. You no longer feel like you are living in your own country. There is a battle going on and we have to defend ourselves. Before you know it there will be more mosques than churches!

In a speech before the Dutch Parliament, he stated:

Islam is the Trojan Horse in Europe. If we do not stop Islamification now, Eurabia and Netherabia will just be a matter of time.

AND GET THIS:   Wilders was extensively discussed in American diplomatic cables, released by WikiLeaks in December 2010. In a briefing to President Barack Obama, he was described as "no friend of the US: he opposes Dutch military involvement in Afghanistan; he believes development assistance is money wasted; he opposes NATO missions outside 'allied' territory; he is against most EU initiatives; and, most troubling, he foments fear and hatred of immigrants."


YOU REALLY THINK WILDERS IS A BAD GUY?????

I never said he's a bad guy. There is nothing stopping him from becoming one, however, and now that he supports bad people, it's likely he will become one. His support of Israel is an attack on pisslam, not because he differentiates a Jew from a Bulgarian or has any special love for anyone.
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Re: Geert Wilders and Marine Le Pen May Join Forces
« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2013, 08:51:34 PM »
He is men of the people. He stand for his believes and he realy want to change Holland.

Geert Wilders said not long ago that he now likes to work together with the Front National of LePen as they took distance from any kind of anti-semitism... Isnt this enough?

If he actually believes that, then he doesn't have the wisdom to be a great leader.
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