Jeff, please don't apologize. We were having a legitimate discussion about my original post and you said nothing wrong.
RationalThought, you hit the nail right on the head. The bulk of Israelis, right now, DO believe such heroes as the Hilltop Youth are seditious and criminal. They always have. In the late '40s they turned Stern members into the British Nazi colonial Gestapo, knowing full well they would be tortured and hanged. They made the commie monster ben GAYrion (yimach schmo vezichro!)their leader, despite the fact that he was a devout Stalinist who presided over the mass murder of dozens, if not hundreds, of heroic Jewish patriots at Altalena and elsewhere.
Israel has never, ever had a right-wing majority. Virtually all of the early Zionist pilgrims were socialist/Marxist beatniks from Russia and other parts of Europe who immediately made their presence felt by founding kibbutzim. Almost every last religious Jew on the planet (zt"l) was murdered by Hitler and his countless accomplices throughout Europe and North America, in large part because traitor Jews in Israel collaborated with the British Nazis to deny them refuge, so this demographic in then-British Fagestine remained unchanged through the '40s. When decent, patriotic Jews from Muslim Nazi countries began moving to Israel in and after 1948, they were completely brainwashed, by force, by the ruling Ashkenazi Marxist elite of ben GAYrion (may he burn in the lake of molten sulphur forever). Thus, even these once-sincere Sephardim became either secular, self-hating Marxists or, if they remained religious, still became extremely left-wing, like Ovadia Yosef.
DownwithIslam, even if you are correct that the majority of Israelis are not this bad, you are absolutely right that the left makes itself heard much more prominently. (I myself see no difference between silence in the face of suicidal leftists and outright support for them, but I digress.) The notion that Israelis are all complacent and lazy and unwilling to do some civil disobedience is utter nonsense. The left does it every single day. Look at all the Histadrut strikes. Look at all the Israeli fag marches. Look at all the Peace Now suicide orgies that take place whenever Israel mounts some non-retaliation for another murder of dozens of Jewish babies (like bombing some empty ancient building). Look at the soldiers who refuse to serve in the territories. This human dreck is NOT afraid to get out there to block roads, riot, fight with the police, and physically attack their opponents. NONE of this--I repeat, none of this chutzpah is ever seen among patriotic, right-wing Jewry anywhere in Israel. True, Kahanist youth (zt"l) , on small scales, may resist expulsion with great force and courage, but, as of now, it's but a drop in the bucket compared to the constant rowdy marches/riots of Peace Now and the Histadrut commies.
The fact that more Jews are up in arms about banning the sale of pork in Israel than surrendering to terrorist swine is a cause for great mourning. So is the fact that more religious Jews are willing to chain themselves to markets selling pork than to Jewish homes in Gaza and Judea/Samaria slated for destruction.
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