Here is an excerpt of a discussion which clarifies the Talmud which the Jew haters misquote and misunderstand. I will post a translation of the actual Gemara when I find it...
http://www.simpletoremember.com/media/a/attack-on-talmud/.
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I want to really spend the remainder of our time on the other 2 accusations. One is that the Talmud contains bizarre and immoral teachings. What I’d like to do is just go through some of the most common claims, and obviously those claims when there is in some sense some truth to it, that the statement there actually does exist or in some fashion exists. Let me give you a couple of examples:
Child molestation is in the Talmud. And any one of these websites unfortunately in some Messianic websites and Arab websites they quote a Gemara in Tractate Yevamos 11b, and they quote the Talmud as saying that sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is 3 years of age. Up till 3 years of age you can have intercourse with a girl. It’s hard to imagine a charge that is more serious than that. I want to quote now the Talmud and what it says: Rabbi Yehuda said in the name of Rav. I’m not going to go through the whole text. A male child who has relations with a female adult, a male child here is referring to a male who is under the age of 9 years old, causes her to be like one who is injured with a stick. Rav said this is what is meant, an adult male who has relations with a female child, which means a child who is under the age of 3, has done nothing at all, because when a girl is less than 3 years old it’s like sticking your finger in an eyeball. Imagine what that kind of lesson does to someone in Paris reading that, that’s what it says in Talmud, most revered text.
You hear this and you’re kind of thrown back. Amongst pious Jews, people who are very faithful, not only such ideas are unimaginable, a religious man doesn’t even touch the hand of a woman who he is not related to or married to. Doesn’t sit in a room alone, doesn’t listen to the voice of a woman who is singing who is not his immediate relative or wife. Go to any, go to Meah Shearim, you go to a city where pious Jews are to be found, you never would see a husband and wife showing enormous physical affection for each other in public. It’s considered inappropriate. So such a charge is of course something extraordinary. It’s a very serious charge. What is the Gemara talking about? If somebody would look at that section of Talmud you’ll see that the Gemara is not talking at all about morality and religious morality. The Gemara says in many, many places that anyone who has relations with a minor it’s as if he raped her. It’s ironic that there are so many statements in the Talmud and religious life about the religious approach to a man and a woman and how their relationship should be. Never are these texts quoted, never, not one of them, because none of them would help their cause. These texts are dealing with the issue of what’s called the reverse dowry, the ketubah. And the Talmud is dealing with the issue of how much does a woman get, receive for a ketubah, it’s called the marriage document, but it’s really not a normal document because a normal document is a bilateral document. In exchange for one thing you get something else. A ketubah is a completely unilateral document. It’s a contract where the man promises the woman that if he divorces her he will pay her to sustain her if he divorces her. And this protects her in the world around Judaism where women were regarded as nothing more than cattle. And that goes on today in the Arab world and places like Saudi Arabia. So thousands of years ago our Sages ensured that women’s rights were protected, their lives were protected. In fact the Gemara says, assur l’adam she’yesh ishoi afilu sho’o achas b’loi kesubo – it is forbidden for a man to be with his wife even one hour without such a document to protect her. Now not every woman received the same amount of this sort of guarantee.
A girl who is a virgin who gets married, she is entitled to 200 units, which is essentially enough for her to live on, and a woman who is not a virgin she receives 100. Okay, very simple. So the Gemara is dealing with a question of what happens if a woman lost her virginity but not through a sexual act. Let’s say a woman lost her virginity because of an injury, as an example. Is that considered, is she considered a virgin? Does she get 200, the Talmud is not dealing at all with the issue of is it right, it’s not even on the page. It’s dealing with what does it constitute, a virgin or not a virgin. So the Gemara first of all explains a point and that is, children, a boy under 9 years old is incapable of being a sexual partner. In halacha a boy who is under 9 cannot have sex. And if something that simulates sex occurs we do not regard it as something that’s sexual. A girl under 3 cannot have sex halachically.
Moreover, the Gemara says that the bodies of children that are injured are regenerative. We know now, in science we know that little boys and girls if a finger chops off they’ll grow another finger. That will not happen to adults but it happens to little children. Their bodies are growing and their bodies will regenerate and the Gemara says that a girl under 3 years old who physically loses her virginity because obviously she had been raped, so that child literally her hymen will re-grow and that it will be right back intact, as if nothing happened. Meaning, nothing physical has happened. And the Gemara using, as I explained earlier using a language that is literal to understand the point, why, to set up the extremes of Jewish law so all future generations can understand, ignoring all of the emotional ramifications, says it’s like sticking a finger in an eyeball. What happens? If you stick a finger in an eyeball, what happens? Tears come out of your eyes, to wash it away. Now when those tears come out of the eyes does your eye then lose the water like spilling a cup out? No, the eye is then able to, whatever is in here is able to produce whatever it is so that more tears can come out, if you stick your eye in again. There’s no shortage of statements throughout the Jewish law about the sanctity of marriage, but it gives you a sense of what happens to the mind of an Austrian who reads such a text. It goes, helps you understand what happens to a Muslim living in Ramallah when he’s introduced to such material, that oh, a people who hold this book sacred, who teach such ideas, of course you can blow them up. Of course you can blow up a girl just a few hours away from her wedding in the Hillel Café as she’s sitting there with her father Dr. Applebaum. A nation vent a holocaust, only a satanic, demonic people could do such a thing. Then you can stick them in a gas chamber, then all is fine. There was never a temple, Arafat teaches that directly.
Mahmoud Abbas the Prime Minister of the Palestinian Authority now he’s in retirement, so he wrote a whole book in that the Jews invented the whole Holocaust. If you believe these things then you can believe anything about the Jew.
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