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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Kacen on May 29, 2008, 09:50:50 AM
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Lately I am being harassed by moderators and members of the forum.
People are accusing me of being some sort of N.W.O. agent.
Okay, let me clarify some things: the sign on the back of the dollar bill is not an ILLUMINATI symbol, it's an authentic and original symbol of the United States that's been hijacked by conspiracy theorists as a sign of the New World Order. It does have some masonic influence, but that brings up a different point: FREEMASONS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE NEW WORLD ORDER.
Seriously, I thought the people here were smarter than to fall for conspiracy theories. The same people who make up these conspiracy theories about the illuminati are the same people who say Zionists are evil and vote for Ron Paul while hiding in their basements with tinfoil hats on their heads.
Might I remind you that anti-freemasonry and anti-semitism go hand-in-hand.
Ah yes, and also, many of the founding fathers of the United States were freemasons. George Washington and Ben Franklin were, and Thomas Jefferson for had close links to them. Freemasons are part of the reason we have freedom of religion (no theocracy), freedom of speech, and democracy in the United States.
Oh, and one last thing; I am related to John Adams on my mother's side.
http://www.greatseal.com Please direct yourself here to clear up all your tinfoil hat nonsense.
If it continues I may leave, as I am getting quite offended.
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Seriously, I thought the people here were smarter than to fall for conspiracy theories.
I haven't met one person that was smart enough to allways tell conspiracy theories from real conspiracies anywhere. It is a shame when people push conspiracy theories aggressively instead of trying to find out whether they are right or wrong.
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I personally don't care about Freemasons, as long they don't try to proselytize me to their basically Deist* worldview.
I am for full faith of freedom for all groups in my country, except evil ones, who wants to establish a terror-regime like Muslimes, Nazis, Scientology, Socialists etc.
*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism
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I haven't read the post about N.W.O and so on, because I'm not interested in this.
I just replied from a theoretical point of view.
I know that some people here fight hard for weird opinions and use insulting language.
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Kacen, this is a religious forum, and we have rules that must be followed. If you don't like it, no one is forcing you to post here. So don't go lecturing us.
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I personally don't care about Freemasons, as long they don't try to proselytize me to their basically Deist* worldview.
I am for full faith of freedom for all groups in my country, except evil ones, who wants to establish a terror-regime like Muslimes, Nazis, Scientology, Socialists etc.
*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism
You do not have to be a deist to be a freemason, but it is a commonly held view among them. You can be a Christian, Jew, Buddhist, Hindu, Pagan, whatever and be a freemason. They never proselytize.
The only people who can't be freemasons are Atheists, and until relatively recently, women...but now they are gradually being allowed in, and always there were seperate groups for women in freemasonry.
Freemasons promote religious tolerance, however at this point it is apparent to me Islam can never be tolerant of other faiths in the long run so it is imperative we take a stand against it.
Kacen, this is a religious forum, and we have rules that must be followed. If you don't like it, no one is forcing you to post here. So don't go lecturing us.
Nice to give me a simple, generalized response without elaborating on my actual post.
Well see IslamIsCancer begged me to join, saying we'd all be one big happy family in our united hatred of Islam. I guess he was wrong in that, I don't think it's his fault though.
I hate Islam from a secular standpoint, as in it is a threat to my own country, and as Israel is in the frontlines in fighting those people I support them wholeheartidly.
And now that I take a look at some of forums on the main board as I scroll down "America's Morality Crisis", the more I see that the Christians here are the bigots who are hating muzzies by being just like the muzzies; being bigoted against homosexuals, women's rights, and other things...just like the muzzies. Sound familiar? What do they do in countries like Saudi Arabia to those latter groups? Kill them.
It's one of the reasons I like Israel it is the only country in the middle east that has religious freedom and how well they treat their women in the sense of allowing them into the army I greatly admire.
I am 100% right wing on economics and such, do not get me wrong, I hate communists with a vicious passion.
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Kahanism seeks a religious government in Israel.
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Yeah, seriously, I should have thought twice before joining here.
Fighting muzzies by being just like them.
Let's fight the evil cancer that is Islam and have the same time of theocratic regime as them where unbelievers are...you know it aint worth it, I can't get along with many of the people here. I'm leaving before this becomes a huge embarassing calamity.
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Lately I am being harassed by moderators and members of the forum.
People are accusing me of being some sort of N.W.O. agent.
Okay, let me clarify some things: the sign on the back of the dollar bill is not an ILLUMINATI symbol, it's an authentic and original symbol of the United States that's been hijacked by conspiracy theorists as a sign of the New World Order. It does have some masonic influence, but that brings up a different point: FREEMASONS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE NEW WORLD ORDER.
Seriously, I thought the people here were smarter than to fall for conspiracy theories. The same people who make up these conspiracy theories about the illuminati are the same people who say Zionists are evil and vote for Ron Paul while hiding in their basements with tinfoil hats on their heads.
Might I remind you that anti-freemasonry and anti-semitism go hand-in-hand.
Ah yes, and also, many of the founding fathers of the United States were freemasons. George Washington and Ben Franklin were, and Thomas Jefferson for had close links to them. Freemasons are part of the reason we have freedom of religion (no theocracy), freedom of speech, and democracy in the United States.
Oh, and one last thing; I am related to John Adams on my mother's side.
http://www.greatseal.com Please direct yourself here to clear up all your tinfoil hat nonsense.
If it continues I may leave, as I am getting quite offended.
I get offended on a daily basis. I didnt like those UGLY flags. A few others had some things that were on the forum, and were asked to replace them, I dont see any partiality here. I posted on a subject, and it was disturbing to some people, and considering I was new, I removed it, I joined a forum, that was already established before I came along, and am sensitive to their rules, I removed my posts without question, b/c the people here are WONDERFUL, and I didnt want to hurt them in ANY way, or make them feel uncomfortable with me, someone they didn't know.
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It's one of the reasons I like Israel it is the only country in the middle east that has religious freedom and how well they treat their women in the sense of allowing them into the army I greatly admire.
Letting Women into the Military is a suicidal blunder. Women have no business playing 'soldier boy'.
Has Warfare become so easy that even Women can do it?
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Yeah, seriously, I should have thought twice before joining here.
Fighting muzzies by being just like them.
Let's fight the evil cancer that is Islam and have the same time of theocratic regime as them where unbelievers are...you know it aint worth it, I can't get along with many of the people here. I'm leaving before this becomes a huge embarassing calamity.
I hope regardless that you continue to fight Islam in your own way even if you leave this board.
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Yeah, seriously, I should have thought twice before joining here.
Fighting muzzies by being just like them.
Let's fight the evil cancer that is Islam and have the same time of theocratic regime as them where unbelievers are...you know it aint worth it, I can't get along with many of the people here. I'm leaving before this becomes a huge embarassing calamity.
This kid is naive.
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Letting Women into the Military is a suicidal blunder. Women have no business playing 'soldier boy'.
Has Warfare become so easy that even Women can do it?
Look at Israel's own history to have that disproved. They fought well in some of Israel's early wars.
Another example would be the success of female snipers in the Soviet Union in World War II.
And yes, I know, the Soviets are a bad example, but really it doesn't matter if they were Soviet the women still fought well.
I hope regardless that you continue to fight Islam in your own way even if you leave this board.
Oh, don't worry, I will remain viciously anti-Islamic, I just need to be weary of who I ally with and for what reasons certain people are anti-Islamic.
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Oh, don't worry, I will remain viciously anti-Islamic, I just need to be weary of who I ally with and for what reasons certain people are anti-Islamic.
One day I hope that Islam will be a bad historical memory!
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Look at Israel's own history to have that disproved. They fought well in some of Israel's early wars.
Another example would be the success of female snipers in the Soviet Union in World War II.
And yes, I know, the Soviets are a bad example, but really it doesn't matter if they were Soviet the women still fought well.
Again, modern weaponry and other technology has made warfare so easy that even Women can attempt being 'soldiers'.
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Again, modern weaponry and other technology has made warfare so easy that even Women can attempt being 'soldiers'.
Well the only real hinderence women tend to have is they are on average weaker than a man.
But like you just said, nowadays with guns and such it doesn't factor much; back in the day when we were swinging big heavy swords and axes around was a different story but even then there were exceptions.
So, uh, what is your point?
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Again, modern weaponry and other technology has made warfare so easy that even Women can attempt being 'soldiers'.
Well the only real hinderence women tend to have is they are on average weaker than a man.
But like you just said, nowadays with guns and such it doesn't factor much; back in the day when we were swinging big heavy swords and axes around was a different story but even then there were exceptions.
So, uh, what is your point?
Feminism is the downfall of Western society. Your support of Women on the battlefield is a Feminist viewpoint. That's my point.
Women are not only physically weaker, they are mentally weaker and prone to irrational emotional outbursts. There is nothing Warriorlike about the Female psyche.
The whole idea of Women soldiers is silly at best and suicidal at worst. Israel is tiny to begin with. Is it really a good idea to send future Mothers out to get blown to bits?
Israel (or any country) cannot last under such suicidal policies as you propose.
Furthermore, when you put boys and girls together, things happen. Know what I mean?
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There were women who served in combat bravely during the War between the States on both sides. This was a very bloody, brutal war, the worst in American history. Women can do it, but there are some problems that need to be addressed.
1. If men and women are not segregated, then immorality will happen. No question about it. Men and women must be kept in separate units when at all possible.
2. A woman can be pregnant and not know it for a while, so if she has sex at any time during her service with any man, then she gets injured, or exposed to chemical weapons a baby could die or come out very injured or deformed. There's also no room in a combat situation to deal with pregnant women's needs. If you need to march then there's no time for morning sickness, heavy mood swings, birthing etc. The heavy physical work involved would probably also cause a miscarriage. I think women in the armed services should have to be on some kind of birth control or sign some kind of contract of honor to prevent this sort of thing from happening. That would solve that problem, but it is something that needs to be addressed.
3. Women are physically weaker, on average, than men. The work they do has to reflect that. Modern technology is mostly overcoming this however.
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Well in addition I shall add that I will still be more biased towards Kahanists and religious Jews because even if they have similar views on social issues traditionally as Muslims do, they don't want to spread it around and convert others.
Jews don't shove their religion down people's throats like Muslims and some Christians no matter how religious they are, which is one of the reasons I've always respected them.
And the Kahanists don't want to convert others or to spread their religion around the world they just want Israel so I may still support them...as long as their theocracy doesn't become as horrific as the ones in Isalmic countries.
Feminism is the downfall of Western society. Your support of Women on the battlefield is a Feminist viewpoint. That's my point.
I don't like hypocritical feminists who try to make themselveso out as superior to men but I believe in gender equality.
Women are not only physically weaker, they are mentally weaker and prone to irrational emotional outbursts. There is nothing Warriorlike about the Female psyche.
I cited examples that contradict that. There were very good female snipers and many soldiers too in the Soviet Union. Go look it up. And once again I am not condoning the Soviet Union or anything but it's still a good military example. In addition Israel's own history.
The whole idea of Women soldiers is silly at best and suicidal at worst. Israel is tiny to begin with. Is it really a good idea to send future Mothers out to get blown to bits?
Are there any statistics from Israel that prove their current policy on women in the army causing massive problems? And if you try to link that to the fact of how the Arab population is increasing I shall post this pre-emptive response: The reason the Arabs multiply so fast is because of Islamic allow allowing men to have multiple wifes, so they multiply like cancerous rabbits if you know what I mean.
Israel (or any country) cannot last under such suicidal policies as you propose.
Once again, statistical proof please.
Furthermore, when you put boys and girls together, things happen. Know what I mean?
Once again, proof of problems that have happened because of that, and as far as I know the men's and women's barracks' are segregated.
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Feminism is the downfall of Western society. Your support of Women on the battlefield is a Feminist viewpoint. That's my point.
I don't like hypocritical feminists who try to make themselveso out as superior to men but I believe in gender equality.
'Gender equality'? Another word for 'Feminism'.
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Well in addition I shall add that I will still be more biased towards Kahanists and religious Jews because even if they have similar views on social issues traditionally as Muslims do, they don't want to spread it around and convert others.
Jews don't shove their religion down people's throats like Muslims and some Christians no matter how religious they are, which is one of the reasons I've always respected them.
And the Kahanists don't want to convert others or to spread their religion around the world they just want Israel so I may still support them...as long as their theocracy doesn't become as horrific as the ones in Isalmic countries.
Feminism is the downfall of Western society. Your support of Women on the battlefield is a Feminist viewpoint. That's my point.
I don't like hypocritical feminists who try to make themselveso out as superior to men but I believe in gender equality.
Women are not only physically weaker, they are mentally weaker and prone to irrational emotional outbursts. There is nothing Warriorlike about the Female psyche.
I cited examples that contradict that. There were very good female snipers and many soldiers too in the Soviet Union. Go look it up. And once again I am not condoning the Soviet Union or anything but it's still a good military example. In addition Israel's own history.
The whole idea of Women soldiers is silly at best and suicidal at worst. Israel is tiny to begin with. Is it really a good idea to send future Mothers out to get blown to bits?
Are there any statistics from Israel that prove their current policy on women in the army causing massive problems? And if you try to link that to the fact of how the Arab population is increasing I shall post this pre-emptive response: The reason the Arabs multiply so fast is because of Islamic allow allowing men to have multiple wifes, so they multiply like cancerous rabbits if you know what I mean.
Israel (or any country) cannot last under such suicidal policies as you propose.
Once again, statistical proof please.
Furthermore, when you put boys and girls together, things happen. Know what I mean?
Once again, proof of problems that have happened because of that, and as far as I know the men's and women's barracks' are segregated.
Women in the Soviet Union were great snipers because Women in General have more Patience then Men so they can wait to take the shot
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Are there any statistics from Israel that prove their current policy on women in the army causing massive problems? And if you try to link that to the fact of how the Arab population is increasing I shall post this pre-emptive response: The reason the Arabs multiply so fast is because of Islamic allow allowing men to have multiple wifes, so they multiply like cancerous rabbits if you know what I mean.
That's not my quote. Why am I responsible for other people's words?
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Israel (or any country) cannot last under such suicidal policies as you propose.
Once again, statistical proof please.
So you're saying it is OK if only some Women get blown to bits?
Why do I have to provide 'statistical proof'? Where is your 'statistical proof' that Women 'soldiers' are just as good as their Male counterparts?
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What does this site have against idf dog trainers? Whats the age long battle i missed out on.
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Furthermore, when you put boys and girls together, things happen. Know what I mean?
Once again, proof of problems that have happened because of that, and as far as I know the men's and women's barracks' are segregated.
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I don't think you need a proof for this. Is it so hard too imagine young women wanting to get away at one point during their mission, that they want to get a child just to be pulled away from the front?
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What does this site have against idf dog trainers? Whats the age long battle i missed out on.
Are you an Aussie?
There's something awfully Australian about the name 'Bruicy'.
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1. If men and women are not segregated, then immorality will happen. No question about it. Men and women must be kept in separate units when at all possible.
I'd agree any sexual happenings in the military should be restricted and forbidden.
2. A woman can be pregnant and not know it for a while, so if she has sex at any time during her service with any man, then she gets injured, or exposed to chemical weapons a baby could die or come out very injured or deformed. There's also no room in a combat situation to deal with pregnant women's needs. If you need to march then there's no time for morning sickness, heavy mood swings, birthing etc. The heavy physical work involved would probably also cause a miscarriage. I think women in the armed services should have to be on some kind of birth control or sign some kind of contract of honor to prevent this sort of thing from happening. That would solve that problem, but it is something that needs to be addressed.
I believe if they are pregnant they should of course be exempt from military service and if they get pregnant during military service they will be discharged and perhaps dishonorably discharged as my previous statement would make such things against the rules.
3. Women are physically weaker, on average, than men. The work they do has to reflect that. Modern technology is mostly overcoming this however.
Already commented on this, and I agree.
'Gender equality'? Another word for 'Feminism'.
I hate it when arguments boil down to semantics.
Yes, in a sense, I agree with "feminism" in theory, the problem is a lot of feminists don't act like they want equality but want to be superior.
Personally I think it needs a new name where men and women can be part of it. "Equalism"? I don't know, too general and vague on what it means. And just because feminism is generally "leftist" doesn't mean we should be so utterly terrified of it.
<sarcasm>Hitler had ears, let's chop off our ears.</sarcasm>
Women in the Soviet Union were great snipers because Women in General have more Patience then Men so they can wait to take the shot
Yes.
So even though women can have different mental attributes, doesn't mean it can't be utilized in the military.
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Women are not only physically weaker, they are mentally weaker and prone to irrational emotional outbursts. There is nothing Warriorlike about the Female psyche.
I've seen men have irrational emotional outbursts too, especially when they're watching something completely irrelevant to their lives, like sports or an action movie.
If I had the means to shoot and kill Osama bin Laden I wouldn't have any moment of weakness. That piece of camel dung would be dead.
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Furthermore, when you put boys and girls together, things happen. Know what I mean?
Once again, proof of problems that have happened because of that, and as far as I know the men's and women's barracks' are segregated.
Barraks, schmarraks.
A male and a Female soldier can have sex in a tank or any other place, for that matter.
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Furthermore, when you put boys and girls together, things happen. Know what I mean?
Once again, proof of problems that have happened because of that, and as far as I know the men's and women's barracks' are segregated.
Barraks, schmarraks.
A male and a Female soldier can have sex in a tank or any other place, for that matter.
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Furthermore, when you put boys and girls together, things happen. Know what I mean?
Once again, proof of problems that have happened because of that, and as far as I know the men's and women's barracks' are segregated.
Barraks, schmarraks.
A male and a Female soldier can have sex in a tank or any other place, for that matter.
:::D :::D :::D :::D :::D :::D
lol, well, he's right about that one. That's why I think they need to be kept separate as much as humanly possible.
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So you're saying it is OK if only some Women get blown to bits?
I'm not following you.
Why do I have to provide 'statistical proof'? Where is your 'statistical proof' that Women 'soldiers' are just as good as their Male counterparts?
Look up female snipers and other things. The differences are negligible enough that with the right rules in place it will not cause problems.
I don't think you need a proof for this. Is it so hard too imagine young women wanting to get away at one point during their mission, that they want to get a child just to be pulled away from the front?
Strict discipline and mental conditioning can correct anything, whether they be men or women.
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Barraks, schmarraks.
A male and a Female soldier can have sex in a tank or any other place, for that matter.
:::D :::D :::D :::D :::D :::D
lol, well, he's right about that one. That's why I think they need to be kept separate as much as humanly possible.
Do you know how cramped tanks are? An A.P.C., maybe, but a tank?
And this convo is veering off track this is supposed to be serious.
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'Gender equality'? Another word for 'Feminism'.
I hate it when arguments boil down to semantics.
Yes, in a sense, I agree with "feminism" in theory, the problem is a lot of feminists don't act like they want equality but want to be superior.
Personally I think it needs a new name where men and women can be part of it. "Equalism"? I don't know, too general and vague on what it means. And just because feminism is generally "leftist" doesn't mean we should be so utterly terrified of it.
<sarcasm>Hitler had ears, let's chop off our ears.</sarcasm>
Women in the Soviet Union were great snipers because Women in General have more Patience then Men so they can wait to take the shot
Yes.
So even though women can have different mental attributes, doesn't mean it can't be utilized in the military.
Men and women are not equal. Men and Women are different!
You're a hypocrite, Kacen.
You have no problem fighting negative stereotypes of Women. At the same time, you defend positive stereotypes of Women that reflect poorly on Men.
Where's your 'statistical proof' that Women have more patience than Men?
You're a hypocrite!
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You probably have not understood Islam.
The easiest difference to spot is, Islam is expanding in nature while even the most radical Jews (!) focus on the holy land and do not try to convert most other people (Your mother must be Jewish or you must have real close relations to Judaism.)
Though I feel a bit offended that on this forum Noahideism (How do you write that?) is push for Non-Jews while Christian-jtf-ers are not allowed to spread their word to them.
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You probably have not understood Islam.
The easiest difference to spot is, Islam is expanding in nature while even the most radical Jews (!) focus on the holy land and do not try to convert most other people (Your mother must be Jewish or you must have real close relations to Judaism.)
Tough I feel a bit offended that on this forum Noahideism (How do you write that?) is push for Non-Jews while Christian-jtf-ers are not allowed to spread their word to them.
It's the Orthodox Jewish belief that converting to Christianiaty causes the Jewish soul to be lost. That's why missionizing isn't allowed. Chaim has states that a "spiritual Holocaust" is worse than a physical one, and that if he were prime minister of Israel, that there would be harsh penalties for missionaries.
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It's the Orthodox Jewish belief that converting to Christianiaty causes the Jewish soul to be lost. That's why missionizing isn't allowed. Chaim has states that a "spiritual Holocaust" is worse than a physical one, and that if he were prime minister of Israel, that there would be harsh penalties for missionaries.
Yes, for Jews.
But for Non-Jews?
But I'll respect that rule.
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You probably have not understood Islam.
The easiest difference to spot is, Islam is expanding in nature while even the most radical Jews (!) focus on the holy land and do not try to convert most other people (Your mother must be Jewish or you must have real close relations to Judaism.)
Umm, that's what I said. Islam expands and Judaism doesn't, which is why I like the latter.
Though I feel a bit offended that on this forum Noahideism (How do you write that?) is push for Non-Jews while Christian-jtf-ers are not allowed to spread their word to them.
No idea quite what you mean but I in general despise religious proselitism.
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It's the Orthodox Jewish belief that converting to Christianiaty causes the Jewish soul to be lost. That's why missionizing isn't allowed. Chaim has states that a "spiritual Holocaust" is worse than a physical one, and that if he were prime minister of Israel, that there would be harsh penalties for missionaries.
Yes, for Jews.
But for Non-Jews?
But I'll respect that rule.
That's a good question. Are Christians allowed to missionize to Non-Jews?
Not that I care. I'm not a Christian.
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Kacen you would can't manage to convert Kahanists into your world view. Let each keep their respective beliefs. You can have women conscripts in your Country Kahanists wouldn't mind that as long as your country isn't Israel.
Even though I tend to agree with your view regarding women I don't see the Kahanist views as bigoted. I think people have the right to have their own view about the role of the sexes, as long as it doesn't bring to violent and subjugation as in Islam.
FYI women serve in the Israeli army but almost never in combat roles. They can serve in the Intelligence or any other important job but most combat roles are not available. The few exceptions are: pilot/air-crew, naval officer, border guard.
In the war of independence there were women fighting very well with the troops, as well as women who took part in defense of besieged settlements. There were even a few women pilots (two that I know of). All were volunteers and they were very few of them.
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In the war of independence there were women fighting very well with the troops, as well as women who took part in defense of besieged settlements. There were even a few women pilots (two that I know of). All were volunteers and they were very few of them.
Yes they were very good.
Nobody should forbid women their right to defend themselves, their family and their country.
Only the conditions should be planned as good as possible.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j2YDq6FkVE
A major chimpout that also makes a great dance mix. lol
(warning: language)
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You can have women conscripts in your Country Kahanists wouldn't mind that as long as your country isn't Israel.
Which is why, like I said, that I would still be more biased towards Jews...
Even though I tend to agree with your view regarding women I don't see the Kahanist views as bigoted. I think people have the right to have their own view about the role of the sexes, as long as it doesn't bring to violent and subjugation as in Islam.
I don't think it's to the extent Islam is...and as far as I know not all Kahanists share that belief cahanewasright agreed with me on gender equality...
...then again he didn't even seem to know that displaying the name of G-D on a flag was blasphemy. *cough*
FYI women serve in the Israeli army but almost never in combat roles. They can serve in the Intelligence or any other important job but most combat roles are not available. The few exceptions are: pilot/air-crew, naval officer, border guard.
I'm aware nowadays it's limited.
In the war of independence there were women fighting very well with the troops, as well as women who took part in defense of besieged settlements. There were even a few women pilots (two that I know of). All were volunteers and they were very few of them.
Doesn't matter how few there were they as you said fought very well. I think that should be enough proof for my point.
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'Gender equality'? Another word for 'Feminism'.
I hate it when arguments boil down to semantics.
Yes, in a sense, I agree with "feminism" in theory, the problem is a lot of feminists don't act like they want equality but want to be superior.
Personally I think it needs a new name where men and women can be part of it. "Equalism"? I don't know, too general and vague on what it means. And just because feminism is generally "leftist" doesn't mean we should be so utterly terrified of it.
<sarcasm>Hitler had ears, let's chop off our ears.</sarcasm>
Women in the Soviet Union were great snipers because Women in General have more Patience then Men so they can wait to take the shot
Yes.
So even though women can have different mental attributes, doesn't mean it can't be utilized in the military.
Men and women are not equal. Men and Women are different!
You're a hypocrite, Kacen.
You have no problem fighting negative stereotypes of Women. At the same time, you defend positive stereotypes of Women that reflect poorly on Men.
Where's your 'statistical proof' that Women have more patience than Men?
You're a hypocrite!
Yes this is obvious. I have to agree with Scriabin. :)
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'Gender equality'? Another word for 'Feminism'.
I hate it when arguments boil down to semantics.
Yes, in a sense, I agree with "feminism" in theory, the problem is a lot of feminists don't act like they want equality but want to be superior.
Personally I think it needs a new name where men and women can be part of it. "Equalism"? I don't know, too general and vague on what it means. And just because feminism is generally "leftist" doesn't mean we should be so utterly terrified of it.
<sarcasm>Hitler had ears, let's chop off our ears.</sarcasm>
Women in the Soviet Union were great snipers because Women in General have more Patience then Men so they can wait to take the shot
Yes.
So even though women can have different mental attributes, doesn't mean it can't be utilized in the military.
Men and women are not equal. Men and Women are different!
You're a hypocrite, Kacen.
You have no problem fighting negative stereotypes of Women. At the same time, you defend positive stereotypes of Women that reflect poorly on Men.
Where's your 'statistical proof' that Women have more patience than Men?
You're a hypocrite!
Yes this is obvious. I have to agree with Scriabin. :)
That's because you're a Genius. ;)
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Yes I know ;D
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Yes this is obvious. I have to agree with Scriabin. :)
To be fair:
Arguing with multiple people at once can be very stressful.
Kacen should take more time to think, if she really believes everything that she wrote.
I have sometimes written the dumbest things when I was under heavy attack.
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Yes I know ;D
Great minds think alike.
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If open war breaks out in the United States I don't care if the person handing me the ammo is male or female, as long as they're useful in the trenches. I'm going to be fighting my heart out.
Racial tensions especially are going to increase if Obama gets the presidency. If rioters come around I'm going to fight them if they try to bother me.
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Please continue your fight against Islam. For this, I commend you.
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If open war breaks out in the United States I don't care if the person handing me the ammo is male or female, as long as they're useful in the trenches. I'm going to be fighting my heart out.
Racial tensions especially are going to increase if Obama gets the presidency. If rioters come around I'm going to fight them if they try to bother me.
I would not care as well
I need to let my Anger out :::D
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Lately I am being harassed by moderators and members of the forum.
People are accusing me of being some sort of N.W.O. agent.
Okay, let me clarify some things: the sign on the back of the dollar bill is not an ILLUMINATI symbol, it's an authentic and original symbol of the United States that's been hijacked by conspiracy theorists as a sign of the New World Order. It does have some masonic influence, but that brings up a different point: FREEMASONS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE NEW WORLD ORDER.
Seriously, I thought the people here were smarter than to fall for conspiracy theories. The same people who make up these conspiracy theories about the illuminati are the same people who say Zionists are evil and vote for Ron Paul while hiding in their basements with tinfoil hats on their heads.
Might I remind you that anti-freemasonry and anti-semitism go hand-in-hand.
Ah yes, and also, many of the founding fathers of the United States were freemasons. George Washington and Ben Franklin were, and Thomas Jefferson for had close links to them. Freemasons are part of the reason we have freedom of religion (no theocracy), freedom of speech, and democracy in the United States.
Oh, and one last thing; I am related to John Adams on my mother's side.
http://www.greatseal.com Please direct yourself here to clear up all your tinfoil hat nonsense.
If it continues I may leave, as I am getting quite offended.
I agree with you 100%... but you know what?????? Who cares!! There are all types of people here. Some believe in conspiracy theories.. many more dont. So its no big deal if you get people who want to argue about this. Its not like they are arguing with you about something extremely important in your life.
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Again, modern weaponry and other technology has made warfare so easy that even Women can attempt being 'soldiers'.
Well the only real hinderence women tend to have is they are on average weaker than a man.
But like you just said, nowadays with guns and such it doesn't factor much; back in the day when we were swinging big heavy swords and axes around was a different story but even then there were exceptions.
So, uh, what is your point?
Feminism is the downfall of Western society. Your support of Women on the battlefield is a Feminist viewpoint. That's my point.
Women are not only physically weaker, they are mentally weaker and prone to irrational emotional outbursts. There is nothing Warriorlike about the Female psyche.
The whole idea of Women soldiers is silly at best and suicidal at worst. Israel is tiny to begin with. Is it really a good idea to send future Mothers out to get blown to bits?
Israel (or any country) cannot last under such suicidal policies as you propose.
Furthermore, when you put boys and girls together, things happen. Know what I mean?
Hey! I take exception to that "they (women) are mentally weaker.."
I do have to admit though, that we are a bit prone to emotional outbursts- and most of us do not appear warrior like. lol
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Hey! I take exception to that "they (women) are mentally weaker.."
I do have to admit though, that we are a bit prone to emotional outbursts- and most of us do not appear warrior like. lol
In a normal society men would have a natural tendency to protect women and children, and would serve the most physically demanding roles in things like the military. However, I believe if a woman wants to serve in the military she should be able to, if she doesn't have small children or babies to care for.
Men and women think differently, but I do have a warrior spirit within me whether others acknowledge it or not. I feel very fierce when I think of our enemies.
Men have emotional outbursts too, I think it's sexist to claim that one sex has more than the other, when I see it from both sides.
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When men have emotional outbursts, it's praised as being "macho" or "having team spirit" or some other euphemism for a chimpout. When women get upset and have an emotional outburst, it's slurred as being "PMS" or "Hysterics". How totally unfair.
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Hey! I take exception to that "they (women) are mentally weaker.."
I do have to admit though, that we are a bit prone to emotional outbursts- and most of us do not appear warrior like. lol
In a normal society men would have a natural tendency to protect women and children, and would serve the most physically demanding roles in things like the military. However, I believe if a woman wants to serve in the military she should be able to, if she doesn't have small children or babies to care for.
Men and women think differently, but I do have a warrior spirit within me whether others acknowledge it or not. I feel very fierce when I think of our enemies.
Men have emotional outbursts too, I think it's sexist to claim that one sex has more than the other, when I see it from both sides.
How are women mentally weaker ?
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How are women mentally weaker ?
I'd like to know that too!
This reminds me of when one of my instructors found out I was taking a Calculus class and he asked if my boyfriend was helping me. That made me pretty angry, but there was no outburst!
I passed, by the way. ;D
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marilyn_vos_Savant
No, I'm not claiming women are more intelligent, just that we're not mentally "weaker". Men and women are different in most things, and often exhibit strengths in different types of intelligence from one another, but there are significant overlaps, and they're just as smart as one another on average, although not always in the same subjects.
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Hey! I take exception to that "they (women) are mentally weaker.."
I do have to admit though, that we are a bit prone to emotional outbursts- and most of us do not appear warrior like. lol
In a normal society men would have a natural tendency to protect women and children, and would serve the most physically demanding roles in things like the military. However, I believe if a woman wants to serve in the military she should be able to, if she doesn't have small children or babies to care for.
Men and women think differently, but I do have a warrior spirit within me whether others acknowledge it or not. I feel very fierce when I think of our enemies.
Men have emotional outbursts too, I think it's sexist to claim that one sex has more than the other, when I see it from both sides.
How are women mentally weaker ?
Men are treated more harshly than Women in Western society. Its a fact, for good or for bad.
Women in Western society are respected and protected. (Men who assault Women are exeedingly rare, contrary to what the Mass Media tells us.)
A father doesn't discipline his daughter the same way that he disciplines his son.
What was said in the Godfather is 100% true. "Women and children can afford to be careless, but never Men." In other words, Men are judged more harshly by society than Women and children are.
Look at all the blond teachers having sex with thier thirteen-year-old male students. Are these Women punished as severely as Men having sex with thirteen-year-old Female students?
Society allows Women to be emotional, to have outbursts, to be irrational, etc. If a Man is that way, he's considered 'scarry' and 'dangerous'.
Therefore, Men have to learn to restrain themselves. This is what I mean.
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Scriabin I think men and women are both great halves to the human species and both deserve respect and to be treated as full human beings. I hate that feminists degrade men but neither can I stand it when women are degraded.
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To be honest, I've always been a Scriabin fan but lately, I've seen some things that have been offensive, not just this. People can be offensive as long as no one offends them, I suppose. For example youcan be offensive but I should not mention the Japanese.
I'm saying that Women don't belong on the battlefield, not that Women are worthless pieces of trash. G-d forbid.
Women who die on the battlefield deserve respect just like the Men, but I ultimately don't think that Women should be soldiers. Other military roles? Fine, but not combat.
The people that spoke ill of the Japanese spoke of all Japanese people as dogs, barbarians, murderers, etc. I am merely stating my opinion that Women don't belong on the battlefield. Sorry, that's how I feel.
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Scriabin I think men and women are both great halves to the human species and both deserve respect and to be treated as full human beings. I hate that feminists degrade men but neither can I stand it when women are degraded.
I agree with you.
I never said that Women shouldn't be treated with respect and as full human beings.
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To be honest, I've always been a Scriabin fan but lately, I've seen some things that have been offensive, not just this. People can be offensive as long as no one offends them, I suppose. For example youcan be offensive but I should not mention the Japanese.
I'm saying that Women don't belong on the battlefield, not that Women are worthless pieces of trash.
G-d forbid.
Women who die on the battlefield deserve respect just like the Men do but do I ultimately don't think that Women should be soldiers. Other military roles? Fine, but not combat.
The people that spoke ill of the Japanese spoke of all Japanese people as dogs, barbarians, murderers, etc. I am merely stating my opinion that Women don't belong on the battlefield. Sorry, that's how I feel.
NO you basically said that we were a disgrace.
To me, that is VERY offensive. Not just to me but to all the women who have died in battle. Leave us alone. I would go back in an instant if I were needed and I would be willing to DIE for my country!
I find this and other things offensive, yet I remember that when people were dogging on Japan you were offended. Likewise they would say to you "sorry that's how I feel" ....about Japan.
And like I said whatever women do in the military, it's our choice. You can keep your opinions, not like they're going to actually affect the world anyways so why am I even concerned.
Women are in the military, we serve with pride, we die with honor and we can care less if a man doesn't like it.
I'm saying that Women don't belong on the battlefield, not that Women are worthless pieces of trash. G-d forbid.
Women who die on the battlefield deserve respect just like the Men, but I ultimately don't think that Women should be soldiers. Other military roles? Fine, but not combat.
The people that spoke ill of the Japanese spoke of all Japanese people as dogs, barbarians, murderers, etc. I am merely stating my opinion that Women don't belong on the battlefield. Sorry, that's how I feel.
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To be honest, I've always been a Scriabin fan but lately, I've seen some things that have been offensive, not just this. People can be offensive as long as no one offends them, I suppose. For example youcan be offensive but I should not mention the Japanese.
I'm saying that Women don't belong on the battlefield, not that Women are worthless pieces of trash.
G-d forbid.
Women who die on the battlefield deserve respect just like the Men do but do I ultimately don't think that Women should be soldiers. Other military roles? Fine, but not combat.
The people that spoke ill of the Japanese spoke of all Japanese people as dogs, barbarians, murderers, etc. I am merely stating my opinion that Women don't belong on the battlefield. Sorry, that's how I feel.
NO you basically said that we were a disgrace.
How and when did I say or imply that you were a disgrace?
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I recall Chaim saying that Women should serve military roles other than combat.
I may be mitaken, but I'm pretty sure that that's what he said.
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I don't think anyone here view women as a disgrace. I dont think women belong in the battlefield. Each gender has their own roles. Women shouldn't be truck drivers or firefighters either.
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I don't think anyone here view women as a disgrace. I dont think women belong in the battlefield. Each gender has their own roles. Women shouldn't be truck drivers or firefighters either.
This is what I'm saying.
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Everyone here agrees that men and women are equally honorable. Their are just some things that should be exclusive to each sex. Unfortunately in todays society, that is not the case. Their is no reason to have a fight over this.
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Feminism is the downfall of Western society. Your support of Women on the battlefield is a Feminist viewpoint. That's my point.
Women are not only physically weaker, they are mentally weaker and prone to irrational emotional outbursts. There is nothing Warriorlike about the Female psyche.
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That is a bit of a silly comment, considering how brilliant the women here are..
I don't know your mother. But alot of people have stupid mothers, and maybe you do, and I know that can affect one's view of women. But i'm sure your mother is not a JTFer!
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I SAID GOOD DAY! I am no longer going to ever bother with this anymore!
How are we a disgrace? Oh geez it's not obvious I mean, it's suicide, we play "soldier-boy". etc...etc...
Please tell the families of the service women who have died that their daughters, mothers and wives played "soldier-boy". I'm sure they would LOVE to hear those words. I mean if we're "soldier boys" it's all a game.
I will not bother with this matter anymore. I made my point clear:
-First of all YOU go fight in the military and then tell me not to.
-Second, well women will still serve wether you like it or not.
-I don't care who thinks what. Who thinks women should/should not do this. Because I know I don't have to agree with everything JTF thinks. I make up my OWN mind in what to believe and follow.
-I am done with this topic! PERIOD! I wont start with it again, I wont respond to you anymore etc...etc..
This remind me of my arch nemesis, a mooslim from my school. Him and me always fought. He was pro-islam and I was anti-islam.
He made protests and I organized protests against his.
We hated each other. And you know what he said????
He respected that was a solder. He said he would join jihad and fight Jews. I told him I would always fight jihad and then he said something that stuck with me. He said:
"maybe one day, you and I will meet in the battlefield"
At least my enemy is willing to face me in the battlefield. And if that day ever comes, you bet I will be there to face him. And if I shall die so that other Jews may live then so be it.
I have no interest in meeting you on the Battlefield.
I said that warfare is easier today than it was for soldiers in the past. Perhaps my tone was too aggressive.
I should have been more sensitive. Instead of saying, "warfare has become so easy that even Women can do it", I should have said, "Warfare is much less physically demanding today and therefore Women have taken up roles as Soldiers on the Battlefield."
Either way, I don't want to insult people.
I just dont think that Women belong in combat.
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I don't know your mother. But alot of people have stupid mothers, and maybe you do. But i'm sure your mother is not a JTFer!
I have never insulted anyone's Mother and I have never heard of someone insulting another person's Mother on the forum without being Banned.
That goes WAY over the line.
My Mother loves JTF.
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I smell a troll here.
Anyway, what Kacen is stating here is flat-out false. Masonism is a religion with its own distinctive doctrines. It is essentially a Deist secret society. You cannot be a genuine Mason in good standing without meaningfully adhering to Deism. I don't assert that Masons are evil, but the notion that it is not a mutually-exclusive religious body is a lie.
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Oh great another one to cause a distruption.
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Guys, what is this crap all about? Just as soon as the Satmar flap between DWI, Tzvi and myself dies down, this garbage starts up?
Mills is a righteous and sincere young lady and she would never attack anybody here on purpose. Can we just please calm down and drop this playground imbroglio?
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I don't know your mother. But alot of people have stupid mothers, and maybe you do
Cheap shot. :-X
You would not insult my mom twice.
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I don't know your mother. But alot of people have stupid mothers, and maybe you do
Cheap shot. :-X
You would not insult my mom twice.
Yeah, right?
Thank's, Archie. :)
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Scriabin, I said good day.
Meaning that I am not looking at this anymore. Good bye.
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Update:
Ok I read what you wrote. Yes saying it another way would have helped. It hurts because of the friends I've lost in battle.
Yehudit, I get fired up and tend to say things in a way that is overly emotional. I meant nothing against you, G-d forbid. You've always been one of my biggest friends and allies.
I certainly meant NOTHING against Women serving in combat. They have more courage than I do, that's for sure. G-d bless you and every other Woman in the military. And Women who die on the battlefield are Saints. I didn't mean to make anyone think otherwise.
We only have a difference in ideology on this matter. Morally, we're in total agreement.
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I don't know your mother. But alot of people have stupid mothers, and maybe you do
Cheap shot. :-X
You would not insult my mom twice.
**NOBODY TRULY WANTS MY OPINION ON THIS FEMALE SUBJECT. :-X
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You're right Scriabin we agree Morally.
You're an amazing poster. ;)
Please do not be offended by me, I get overly emotional at times and I am very impulsive. As much as I try to control it, it gets the best of me sometimes.
We're both fiery, passionate people. These things happen.
G-d bless you for your service.
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One thing I wish clarified:
The flags I had in my signature, how did they violate any rules? The Jewish one I am not talking about, I took that down with no question and I apologize for the mistake of displaying G-D's name.
But the others flags had nothing to do with Judaism or insulting Jewish people at all. So, even if some people found them "ugly" and "offensive", how could THIS violate any rules? Please, show me some place where it says it is against the rules.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v342/MarinaRay/NIA-M.png)
How do these violate forum rules?
How? Tell me please.
And to the people who found it offensive because it defaced the American flag, I slightly based it on the U.S. flag, but it's all U.S. symbols. You might as well call the flag of Liberia defacement.
If you find it offensive personally, fine, but to the one who PMed me telling me to take it down or he'd do it himself (Not Paulette, she simply asked), how can you ban them based on forum rules? If you give me an answer that makes sense, I'll let it go.
Oh, and neither of them have to do with the NWO.
In fact the one on the left is a symbol for a nationalistic American regime, AKA, anti-globalist. Just because conspiracy theorists made the pyramid with the eye on top into an Illuminati symbol doesn't make it such a symbol.
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Scriabin I think men and women are both great halves to the human species and both deserve respect and to be treated as full human beings. I hate that feminists degrade men but neither can I stand it when women are degraded.
I agree with you.
I never said that Women shouldn't be treated with respect and as full human beings.
O0 Cool :)
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kacem is this you http://www.youtube.com/user/shahril53
Kacen | August 12, 2007
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/
http://www.nkusa.org/
http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/jews_against_zionism.html
http://www.rense.com/general54/thank.htm
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One thing I wish clarified:
The flags I had in my signature, how did they violate any rules? The Jewish one I am not talking about, I took that down with no question and I apologize for the mistake of displaying G-D's name.
But the others flags had nothing to do with Judaism or insulting Jewish people at all. So, even if some people found them "ugly" and "offensive", how could THIS violate any rules? Please, show me some place where it says it is against the rules.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v342/MarinaRay/NIA-M.png)
How do these violate forum rules?
How? Tell me please.
And to the people who found it offensive because it defaced the American flag, I slightly based it on the U.S. flag, but it's all U.S. symbols. You might as well call the flag of Liberia defacement.
If you find it offensive personally, fine, but to the one who PMed me telling me to take it down or he'd do it himself (Not Paulette, she simply asked), how can you ban them based on forum rules? If you give me an answer that makes sense, I'll let it go.
Oh, and neither of them have to do with the NWO.
In fact the one on the left is a symbol for a nationalistic American regime, AKA, anti-globalist. Just because conspiracy theorists made the pyramid with the eye on top into an Illuminati symbol doesn't make it such a symbol.
I don't think they're offensive except perhaps for the reason you mentioned yourself. Some may have interpreted them us a symbol of secret society dominance over the USA.
Few of our members may be suspicious about masonry and they associate it with NWO. as a movement Masonry is of no concern to JTF. I think you know what is our positions about other religions.
If someone sent you an offensive PM I think it is best to discuss it privately with a moderator or admin. I don't think we should all get involve in petty fights.
I think there is a sticky post about the forum rules. But why resort to banning so rashly? We should keep peace in our midst and concentrate in fighting Islam.
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kacem is this you http://www.youtube.com/user/shahril53
Kacen | August 12, 2007
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/
http://www.nkusa.org/
http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/jews_against_zionism.html
http://www.rense.com/general54/thank.htm
I thought this was Kacen: http://www.youtube.com/010110010101 (http://www.youtube.com/010110010101)
no notice the comments on the page i link to you will find the name kacem
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They both are...
And about that, I was trying to convince him that not all Jews are zionists.
...I wasn't necessarily condoning anti-Zionism.
And that was before I even new all the facts too. At that time, I was neutral on the issue.
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just inquiring
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Yes, it was me.
But this guy wasn't just "anti-Zionist", he was going around like "JEWS ARE THE SCUM OF THE EARTH THEY CONTROLLED THE SOVIET UNION HEIL HITLER" etc etc etc...
In fact when I posted that in his profile, he just responded "[censored] JEWS SCUM OF THE EARTH THEY WORK FOR SATAN BLAH BLAH BLAH" and then posted links to sites like jew watch and such.
I was just showing him that "Uh, not all Jews support Zionism."
I thought "If I can at least get a guy to stop being an anti-semite, that's progress no matter how I do it." But I think he's just an immature troll.
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Lately I am being harassed by moderators and members of the forum.
People are accusing me of being some sort of N.W.O. agent.
If it continues I may leave
Good idea
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I don't think they're offensive except perhaps for the reason you mentioned yourself. Some may have interpreted them us a symbol of secret society dominance over the USA.
Few of our members may be suspicious about masonry and they associate it with NWO. as a movement Masonry is of no concern to JTF. I think you know what is our positions about other religions.
If someone sent you an offensive PM I think it is best to discuss it privately with a moderator or admin. I don't think we should all get involve in petty fights.
I think there is a sticky post about the forum rules. But why resort to banning so rashly? We should keep peace in our midst and concentrate in fighting Islam.
Well I checked the rules list and to be honest I don't even see anything there that those could have violated. Heck, even if they were NWO symbols...they did not break the rules...
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DWI, I'm not fighting. But I do have a right to say when I am offended or not.
Just like others have said they have been offended and made their point about it. I recall you were offended over what someone said about your friend onthe forum earlier on. Did you say something about it when you were offended by it? Or was thre "no reason" to bother with it?
You are offended, but you are far too righteous to leave the forum like other people in the past!
LOL
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If I had seen the bolded section of that post anywhere else, I would have though it was hilarious satire. I'm dead serious.
Okay, let me lay this on you: I have a lesbian friend who is right-wing and hates communists. She's a gun freak. She's a capitalist and voted for Bush.
And when she sees what Muzzie countries do to homosexuals, she hates Islam. She supports Israel and is sick of all the leftist anti-Zionist propaganda in her college. She hates how all the liberals constantly ignore the fact that the PLO/Hamas Arab Muslim Nazis kill homosexuals and that Israel is the only country there that doesn't outlaw homosexuality.
You managed to not generalize atheists. Extend that to other groups, please.
Now, I will not argue with you that the majority of homosexuals are left-wing, that in my experience is true, but one must analyze why. Which side of the political spectrum is generally less bigoted against them? The left, so they'd lean towards that direction, and through group mentality become leftist in another ways. You can apply this to other groups of people.
False dichotomy are what cause a lot of this arguing. It doesn't have to be one way or the other.
And the reason why so many homosexuals act like they do is the same reason feminists act like they do; they want equal rights. That is why.
If more right-wing people in general were not bigoted against them, then I bet more would be right wing. It's all because of association.
Also, interesting fact: Karl Marx was anti-homosexual, and so were many communist leaders. Karl Marx said that homosexuality was a disease of the upper class, since at the time, mostly monarchs practiced it; since they were above the law, they were able to get away with it.
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Kacen that's why I'd like you to stay here- so you can educate people not to be homophobic for example.
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I have nothing against the homosexuals.
A gay man's not gonna put me off, I can look after myself.
If they are committing sins, it's their prerogative.
They may have some explaining to do with G-d when time comes.
I leave them in peace, and they leave me in peace. That's it...
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Kacen that's why I'd like you to stay here- so you can educate people not to be homophobic for example.
WOW!! If I thought that all of THIS would get as much ATTN, I would do my audios JUST THIS WAY, to get TGIS response!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I asked very nicely. Thats all. I am on a few diff. forums, I, personally said something here that made someone a little upset- I just removed it, I believe that she respected me, even more, because I thought of HER feelings- she was here years before I. I, personally promise that I will not push any of my outlandish thoughts here, I try to respect all people. I have zero against Kacen, I just hate those flags- There are 3 flags I love, The US flag, and the Israeli Flag, and a 3rd- Masterwolfs. The US flag is under FIRE- and I have to take a stand here- it is not to offend ANYONE- Whatever- Take it down or dont take it down, but PLEASE- DO NOT EXPECT ME TO NOT SAY ANYTHING. Matter of FACT, I will probably NEVER stop. Sorry, this is the way I am. STOP TRASHING MY FLAG!! ALL PEOPLE EVERYWHERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am TIRED of THIS.
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Are you accusing me of being "bigoted" against homosexuals? Are you also telling me that right now, women don't have equal rights?
By definition generalizing a group is kinda bigoted. And to be honest yeah I am against anyone indoctrinating anyone to their sexuality, but really you seem to only know the ones that do...most gays I know don't do that.
As I have said, people can do whatever they want in the bedroom, but, I don't want them shoving down what they do down other peoples' throats. I don't want to hear about it. And, I don't think too many people want to hear about it. Like I said, read what I have written in my previous post.
Well to be honest I am fine if this is merely what you think but really your huge rant generalized them horribly...there are plenty of gays who are like that. More than you think.
Whether homosexuality is a perversion is all a matter of a opinion I don't care.
Now, your friend, if she doesn't shove her homosexuality down peoples' throats and keeps everything in the bedroom, then she's certainly a rarity among homosexuals. And, people should keep it in the bedroom.
She doensn't, thus proving you generalized horribly.
Secondly, women in the West have equal rights today. These feminist groups are trying to make women dominant over men. There is a common perception that men are somehow lazy or irresponsible today and that they can't take care of kids. And, specifically, white men are being targeted by these feminists, even though the majority of them are responsible people who do take care of their kids. Above all, these feminist groups barely ever target those black gangster rappers who treat women like whores. These feminist groups of today also have their roots in this "New Left" of the 1960s, something which is destroying the West. They aren't about getting equal rights, but about getting more rights and about destroying America. We all know that these feminist groups are either communists or other radical leftists and critical of America.
Women do have equal rights, it's just individuals who might be bigoted, and I said before that many are idiots and take it too far.
And stop using terms like "destroying America". That's so arbitrary and subjective.
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And stop using terms like "destroying America". That's so arbitrary and subjective.
But its also true.
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No it's not, it's subjective. I'm sure a Muzzie in a country where Islam is dying will say their country is being destroyed.
Countries change. Using the same logic stopping segregation destroyed America. Freeing the slaves destroyed America. They were all traditions so whatever.
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No it's not, it's subjective. I'm sure a Muzzie in a country where Islam is dying will say their country is being destroyed.
Countries change. Using the same logic stopping segregation destroyed America. Freeing the slaves destroyed America. They were all traditions so whatever.
Ending segregation and not sending the slaves back to Africa led to the eventual downfall of America.
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Kacen man I would advise you to follow the rules of this forum, let's not fight each other please.
Look man I'm an atheist but I realize what a great job these religious Jews are doing.
No atheist organization can hold a candle to JTF, strange isn't it?
So I think we all should follow the simple rules.
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And stop using terms like "destroying America". That's so arbitrary and subjective.
But its also true.
Correct
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regarding the expression- destroying america..
it's subjective. I'm sure a Muzzie in a country where Islam is dying will say their country is being destroyed.
Countries change. Using the same logic stopping segregation destroyed America. Freeing the slaves destroyed America. They were all traditions so whatever.
If a JTFer says a country is destroyed you can expect it to make sense relative to the values espoused by JTF.
Good means, we are doing well, or our enemies are getting screwed.
Pretty logical really.
A good muslim however, means good in our enemy's terms. Which is bad. But they are all bad, it's a question of degree.
A bomb can be good or bad. If it's against our enemies in a war, that's good.
No need to say "oh, it's subjective, if you were the enemy.."
Nothing wrong with doing to your enemy what they would do to you either.
As they are merciful, so should you be merciful.
If you don't stoop to their level, you stoop 6ft under.
That is kahanism.
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No it's not, it's subjective. I'm sure a Muzzie in a country where Islam is dying will say their country is being destroyed.
Countries change. Using the same logic stopping segregation destroyed America. Freeing the slaves destroyed America. They were all traditions so whatever.
Ending segregation and not sending the slaves back to Africa led to the eventual downfall of America.
That's 100% correct.
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regarding the expression- destroying america..
it's subjective. I'm sure a Muzzie in a country where Islam is dying will say their country is being destroyed.
Countries change. Using the same logic stopping segregation destroyed America. Freeing the slaves destroyed America. They were all traditions so whatever.
If a JTFer says a country is destroyed you can expect it to make sense relative to the values espoused by JTF.
Good means, we are doing well, or our enemies are getting screwed.
Pretty logical really.
A good muslim however, means good in our enemy's terms. Which is bad. But they are all bad, it's a question of degree.
A bomb can be good or bad. If it's against our enemies in a war, that's good.
No need to say "oh, it's subjective, if you were the enemy.."
Nothing wrong with doing to your enemy what they would do to you either.
As they are merciful, so should you be merciful.
If you don't stoop to their level, you stoop 6ft under.
That is kahanism.
Your Mama.
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regarding the expression- destroying america..
That is kahanism.
Your Mama.
No, YO mommuh
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A lot of issues have been brought up here. The one issue that is most important though is that we all are against the terrorist organization called Islam/Nazism. True we have our disagreements about other issues but we must not get diverted from the main issue. Islam/Nazism. That's the most important. I have friends that are homosexual and I know the Bible says it is an abomination for a man to lay with a man. I always tell them to get married to a woman and live right. They get upset over it but I say what I feel. As for allowing them into our military, I'm against it. I wouldn't want a guy in a foxhole with me that looks at me with lust. That would be detrimental to security. As for the feminazis shoving their agenda down our militaries throats. I wholeheartedly agree. I feel that women have their roles in warfar, but it is not the frontlines. Nor is it on a warship or a fighter plane or bomber. Not even a cargo plane. We don't need our women to be put in danger. Some call me a knuckle dragging machomutt for my views, but so what. True women fought in WW2. But look for who they were fighting for...The Soviets. I'm sure they, the women, had a lot of say in what they did. The feminazis have screwed this country up so bad it's pitiful. There have been tens of millions of children murdered in the name of free choice. The cure for cancer could have been destroyed because of this infanticide. I could go on but I would be wasting time that could be taken up for more important issues so I had better finish. God bless AMERICA and ISRAEL!!!!!
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Studies have shown that combat units are affected detrimentally by the service of women in said units. Accordingly, this practice has been dropped by some western countries smart enough to be practical. Women can serve but best not in combat units. Nothing against women, it's just how things have played themselves out. We also know from the Torah provisions that this would happen so Jews could have predicted this.