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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: דוד בן זאב אריה on November 05, 2012, 05:54:41 PM
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I have no idea.... But I think it may have contradicted what Chaim was saying about this in a different thread...
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Mike Ben-Ari is no different from that other Mike, Guzofsky; a total fraud and joke.
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I didn't see any micahel ben ari video but if you mean the Lenny video its still here, was just unstickied.
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I didn't see any micahel ben ari video but if you mean the Lenny video its still here, was just unstickied.
No a different one. I saw it as well (saw it posted didn't watch the video really, for now at least). If you want to see it go to the Lenny video and follow to the next video on his playlist.
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You stickied the thread and I unstickied it because we are not promoting Michael Ben Ari and his videos on this forum. After I unstickied it, you stickied it again. So the only way for me to stop the thread from being repeatedly stickied was to remove it.
We have made clear why we are opposing Ben Ari. He is not a Kahanist and not a genuine right-winger. If you want to support someone who says we must accept a nuclear-armed Iran, who condemns the underground fighters of Tag Mechir, who says that Jewish taxpayers should bail out and save the extreme left-wing newspaper Maariv, who blesses the memory of Yitzchak Rabin saying "zichrono livrachi" repeatedly after his name, who shakes hands with extreme left-wing Meretz traitors and blesses them with "shana tova" (good New Year), and who publicly ridicules our videos calling them "insanely laughable" - if all of this doesn't bother you, then support him. But we do not and will not support him.
You yourself told me that Baruch Marzel (the number two candidate on their party list) told you that I can go to Israel any time I want to. In other words, Marzel was claiming that I am not really banned from Israel, that I am making it up. This is just another example of how these people are vicious slanderers and backstabbers. I sent tens of thousands of dollars to help Marzel get elected to the Knesset - yet he repeatedly slandered me for no reason. What type of Jew behaves like this?
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You stickied the thread and I unstickied it because we are not promoting Michael Ben Ari and his videos on this forum. After I unstickied it, you stickied it again. So the only way for me to stop the thread from being repeatedly stickied was to remove it.
We have made clear why we are opposing Ben Ari. He is not a Kahanist and not a genuine right-winger. If you want to support someone who says we must accept a nuclear-armed Iran, who condemns the underground fighters of Tag Mechir, who says that Jewish taxpayers should bail out and save the extreme left-wing newspaper Maariv, who blesses the memory of Yitzchak Rabin saying "zichrono livrachi" repeatedly after his name, who shakes hands with extreme left-wing Meretz traitors and blesses them with "shana tova" (good New Year), and who publicly ridicules our videos calling them "insanely laughable" - if all of this doesn't bother you, then support him. But we do not and will not support him.
You yourself told me that Baruch Marzel (the number two candidate on their party list) told you that I can go to Israel any time I want to. In other words, Marzel was claiming that I am not really banned from Israel, that I am making it up. This is just another example of how these people are vicious slanderers and backstabbers. I sent tens of thousands of dollars to help Marzel get elected to the Knesset - yet he repeatedly slandered me for no reason. What type of Jew behaves like this?
I remember how Michael Ben Ari or Baruch Marzel slowly slid down and then off of the graces of this forum. I am unable to remember the details, but over a period of time, they broke their word and then lied. I believe one of the issues was over a generous donation made by JTF, like 22, 000 dollars. It's disgraceful how good people can just be screwed to death in this world
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I remember how Michael Ben Ari or Baruch Marzel slowly slid down and then off of the graces of this forum. I am unable to remember the details, but over a period of time, they broke their word and then lied. I believe one of the issues was over a generous donation made by JTF, like 22, 000 dollars. It's disgraceful how good people can just be screwed to death in this world
These people have repeatedly proven to have a weak dishonest character and I can recall they were given more then a few chances to start over by Chaim. When Michael Ben Ari became a candidate in the ichud leumi party, Chaim supported him, despite all the stupid and dishonest things that Marzel and Ben Gvir who installed him there as their surrogate had done in the past. But Ben Ari has since then proved that he is just as weak and dishonest as they are.
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בס''ד
You stickied the thread and I unstickied it because we are not promoting Michael Ben Ari and his videos on this forum. After I unstickied it, you stickied it again. So the only way for me to stop the thread from being repeatedly stickied was to remove it.
We have made clear why we are opposing Ben Ari. He is not a Kahanist and not a genuine right-winger. If you want to support someone who says we must accept a nuclear-armed Iran, who condemns the underground fighters of Tag Mechir, who says that Jewish taxpayers should bail out and save the extreme left-wing newspaper Maariv, who blesses the memory of Yitzchak Rabin saying "zichrono livrachi" repeatedly after his name, who shakes hands with extreme left-wing Meretz traitors and blesses them with "shana tova" (good New Year), and who publicly ridicules our videos calling them "insanely laughable" - if all of this doesn't bother you, then support him. But we do not and will not support him.
You yourself told me that Baruch Marzel (the number two candidate on their party list) told you that I can go to Israel any time I want to. In other words, Marzel was claiming that I am not really banned from Israel, that I am making it up. This is just another example of how these people are vicious slanderers and backstabbers. I sent tens of thousands of dollars to help Marzel get elected to the Knesset - yet he repeatedly slandered me for no reason. What type of Jew behaves like this?
Fake Kahanists are much, much worse than honest and open leftists. These people are a den of vile snakes. These are the descendants of Rudolf Kastner (ysv) and other kapos in Occupied Europe.
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Does that mean The National Union without Ben-Ari and Marzel is the lesser of the evils in Israel? Ben-Ari won't get elected. Every small party never wins. Just like Herut under Kleiner with Marzel as #2 didn't get elected. Kleiner's Herut was orginally elected as part of The National Union. Benny Begin headed the list and ran for PM but resigned and Kleiner broke off and established the one MK Herut Party which was the only MK JTF supported back in 2002. I think Kleiner now supports Likud again. He used to be of Gesher which was David Levy's opportunist party that either went with Likud or Labor so he would be Foreign Minister.
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בס''ד
You stickied the thread and I unstickied it because we are not promoting Michael Ben Ari and his videos on this forum. After I unstickied it, you stickied it again. So the only way for me to stop the thread from being repeatedly stickied was to remove it.
We have made clear why we are opposing Ben Ari. He is not a Kahanist and not a genuine right-winger. If you want to support someone who says we must accept a nuclear-armed Iran, who condemns the underground fighters of Tag Mechir, who says that Jewish taxpayers should bail out and save the extreme left-wing newspaper Maariv, who blesses the memory of Yitzchak Rabin saying "zichrono livrachi" repeatedly after his name, who shakes hands with extreme left-wing Meretz traitors and blesses them with "shana tova" (good New Year), and who publicly ridicules our videos calling them "insanely laughable" - if all of this doesn't bother you, then support him. But we do not and will not support him.
You yourself told me that Baruch Marzel (the number two candidate on their party list) told you that I can go to Israel any time I want to. In other words, Marzel was claiming that I am not really banned from Israel, that I am making it up. This is just another example of how these people are vicious slanderers and backstabbers. I sent tens of thousands of dollars to help Marzel get elected to the Knesset - yet he repeatedly slandered me for no reason. What type of Jew behaves like this?
Dead wrong. Hashem says in Bereshis 12:3 "וַאֲבָרְכָה מְבָרֲכֶיךָ וּמְקַלֶּלְךָ אָאֹר וְנִבְרְכוּ בְךָ כֹּל מִשְׁפְּחֹת הָאֲדָמָה" "And I will bless those who bless you, and the one who curses you I will curse, and all the families of the earth shall be blessed in you." Anyone who blesses a fellow Jew, even an evil Meretz traitor, is blessed in return by Hashem. Therefore Ben Ari was blessed because he blessed the evil Meretz traitors.
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I'm losing it, sensory overload! They're coming out of the woodwork like cockroaches!
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Dead wrong. Hashem says in Bereshis 12:3 "וַאֲבָרְכָה מְבָרֲכֶיךָ וּמְקַלֶּלְךָ אָאֹר וְנִבְרְכוּ בְךָ כֹּל מִשְׁפְּחֹת הָאֲדָמָה" "And I will bless those who bless you, and the one who curses you I will curse, and all the families of the earth shall be blessed in you." Anyone who blesses a fellow Jew, even an evil Meretz traitor, is blessed in return by Hashem. Therefore Ben Ari was blessed because he blessed the evil Meretz traitors.
The verse is about GENTILES blessing the Jewish people (truly blessing, not licking their asses in order to convert them to Xtianity), not Jews blessing Nazis. Sanhedrin SAGES and their followers (who are called "Israel haters") were killed as a punishment for them calling Judeo-Nazi king Agrippa I "our brother"
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Endless ("religious") Jews were killed as a punishment for them calling Judeo-Nazi king Agrippa I "our brother"
you have no clue what you're talking about. Agrippa I was a good king, a righteous jew. You know zero about history and you're a complete ignoramus.
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Hi Ralph.
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The verse is about GENTILES blessing the Jewish people, not Jews blessing Nazis. Sanhedrin SAGES and their followers (who are called "Israel haters") were killed as a punishment for them calling Judeo-Nazi king Agrippa I "our brother"
absolutely wrong. the verse does not refer to just gentiles, it refers to anyone. nowhere in the verse does it mention gentiles. you're a complete fool
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absolutely wrong. the verse does not refer to just gentiles, it refers to anyone. nowhere in the verse does it mention gentiles. you're a complete fool
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHA this must be a parody!
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you have no clue what you're talking about. Agrippa I was a good king, a righteous jew. You know zero about history and you're a complete ignoramus.
You can't even see it was a typo? typical for subhuman American fags
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כת החנפים אינה מקבלת פני שכינה
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The verse is about GENTILES blessing the Jewish people (truly blessing, not licking their asses in order to convert them to Xtianity), not Jews blessing Nazis. Sanhedrin SAGES and their followers (who are called "Israel haters") were killed as a punishment for them calling Judeo-Nazi king Agrippa I "our brother"
The punishment was because Agrippa was NOT a Jew. Either he or his ancestors converted to Judaism and he was not fit to be a Jewish King (or leader). That is the reason given in the Talmudh and this is brought down in Ore Harayon of Rav Kahane.
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the second reason is וְלֹא-תַחֲנִיפוּ אֶת-הָאָרֶץ, a יהרג ואל יעבור sin.
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the reason is וְלֹא-תַחֲנִיפוּ אֶת-הָאָרֶץ, a יהרג ואל יעבור sin
America is not Rome, even though we have been sick for sometime now!
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Talking about Or Ha'Ra'ayon.. a couple of chapters after that he quotes Ha'Gra saying that he who does not fight the Erev Rav becomes their partner and it'd have been better if he was not created
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the reason is וְלֹא-תַחֲנִיפוּ אֶת-הָאָרֶץ, a יהרג ואל יעבור sin. And it's just insanely hilarious to see how you quote the Rambam on traitors on one hand and demand Jews to give blowjobs to traitors on the other hand
I wasn't disagreeing with you on traitors, I was saying your comment on the Sanhedrin and their mistake is factually wrong. I will try to look it up in Or Harayon and get back with the source later.
And about traitors. We must be careful in recognizing who is a real traitor, etc. You cant go around calling everyone you disagree with a traitor. You desensitize the word, and you only make yourself look stupid.
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Why is Ben Ari not helping Chaim obtain aliyah?
I originally supported Ben Ari but no more.
He is a total fraud.
After seeing Chaim's videos in both Hebrew & English I have recently been won over .
I know Chaim since the 70's & thought that he was nuts but now I see I was wrong & he is totally sincere & correct on most issues.
He is needed here & is IMHO the only credible person today to revive the Kahane movement.
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Does that mean The National Union without Ben-Ari and Marzel is the lesser of the evils in Israel? Ben-Ari won't get elected. Every small party never wins. Just like Herut under Kleiner with Marzel as #2 didn't get elected. Kleiner's Herut was orginally elected as part of The National Union. Benny Begin headed the list and ran for PM but resigned and Kleiner broke off and established the one MK Herut Party which was the only MK JTF supported back in 2002. I think Kleiner now supports Likud again. He used to be of Gesher which was David Levy's opportunist party that either went with Likud or Labor so he would be Foreign Minister.
Kleiner turned left and opposes settlers.
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absolutely wrong. the verse does not refer to just gentiles, it refers to anyone. nowhere in the verse does it mention gentiles. you're a complete fool
That verse does refer to gentiles.
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Why is Ben Ari not helping Chaim obtain aliyah?
I originally supported Ben Ari but no more.
He is a total fraud.
After seeing Chaim's videos in both Hebrew & English I have recently been won over .
I know Chaim since the 70's & thought that he was nuts but now I see I was wrong & he is totally sincere & correct on most issues.
He is needed here & is IMHO the only credible person today to revive the Kahane movement.
I agree with you 100 percent. In my case, we would just have to change the decade to the 90s and we could have uttered the same words verbatim
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Anyone who supports these vipers is as bad as they are. I'd take Rudolf Kastner over these reptiles any day of the week.
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I agree with you 100 percent. In my case, we would just have to change the decade to the 90s and we could have uttered the same words verbatim
I find this guy very questionable, Just my opinion!
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I find this guy very questionable, Just my opinion!
Will you tell us what your old name was, it was mango or Monzo or something like that.
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Will you tell us what your old name was, it was mango or Monzo or something like that.!
I'm serious, I never left the forum. I was nazarine and a number when I started! I joined a year ago
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Will you tell us what your old name was, it was mango or Monzo or something like that.
Are sure you are the real JTFenthusiast, because we have talked in the past?
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Are sure you are the real JTFenthusiast, because we have talked in the past?
You two should just agree to get along.
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You two should just agree to get along.
We never fought before, now all of a sudden he thinks I'm a troll!
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Will you tell us what your old name was, it was mango or Monzo or something like that.
I am getting sick and tired of this. You have been told many times that he is not this person. The person you are thinking of is wonga66 and he is back on the forum right now as "Yerusha".
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I am getting sick and tired of this. You have been told many times that he is not this person. The person you are thinking of is wonga66 and he is back on the forum right now as "Yerusha".
Yes, thank you!
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I am getting sick and tired of this. You have been told many times that he is not this person. The person you are thinking of is wonga66 and he is back on the forum right now as "Yerusha".
Yes, I agree with that...
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Yes, thank you!
Stop getting your Katy Perry knickers in a twist DBF. It was Mange or something like that.
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I think someone is trying to be humorous here... JTFE is making a joke, I think...
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Stop getting your Katy Perry knickers in a twist DBF. It was Mange or something like that.
Well, its not me! And you are not you!!
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Stop getting your Katy Perry knickers in a twist DBF. It was Mange or something like that.
There was no Manga. You are thinking of Wonga, who is still here under a different name.
May I ask what happened to you? You had 2000+ posts and yet here you are with a new account. Methinks you are calling the kettle black when you accuse another member of being a troll.
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There was no Manga. You are thinking of Wonga, who is still here under a different name.
May I ask what happened to you? You had 2000+ posts and yet here you are with a new account. Methinks you are calling the kettle black when you accuse another member of being a troll.
I'm locked out of my account, Dumkopf. I've been saying that for a month. Why would I 'troll' with the same name??? That makes no sense
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You are the one acting like a troll right now, accusing members of being various people and attacking JTFers.
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You are the one acting like a troll right now, accusing members of being various people and attacking JTFers.
I think your brain is pickled DBF. I stated that one person reminded me of another. ONE PERSON. I haven't attacked anyone. Everytime, I feel myself soften to you a little bit, you do something that reminds me of what an incredible liar you are at your very core.
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I'm locked out of my account, Dumkopf. I've been saying that for a month. Why would I 'troll' with the same name??? That makes no sense
You are locked out of two accounts?
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I'm me, I've always been me, nobody can effectively duplicate me or impersonate me, and I will be me until Hashem thinks it is time that I stop being me...
I will have no other identity, my identity encapsulates my soul, and I like my soul, and I try not to change it except to learn more and try to do more good in the world.
All these multiple identities seem to be harmful to a soul. Look at the confusion and the sparks of hatred which has arisen in this discussion. I think I know all of you involved in this 'machloket' and I feel sorry for the entire situation.
It is easy to be misunderstood on a forum, and because we all are at different states of minds sometimes things we say are not interpreted the way we intend them to. It is best to take a step back from the conflict and come back to it when we are able to think more clearly.
I have been misunderstood and I do not try to hold a grudge. I believe everyone involved in this discussion has good at their heart, but please try to show a little more respect to each other...
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His name is Robert Paulson.
His name is Robert Paulson.
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I like " JTFenthusiast" I just don't understand what happen to his other account? And why he said I was disrespectful? Also I'm wondering if Serbian armys account was hacked?
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I think your brain is pickled DBF. I stated that one person reminded me of another. ONE PERSON. I haven't attacked anyone. Everytime, I feel myself soften to you a little bit, you do something that reminds me of what an incredible liar you are at your very core.
Seriously you need some medication man. You are the one who made a fool out of yourself by insisting that Ephraim is wonga66 (even when we told you that Yerusha is actually him).
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Do we really want to keep this thread flowing? I think everyone involved is who they say they are... Although I have been wrong in the past I think the Ephraim is Ephraim, JTFE is JTFE, DBF is DBF, KWRBT is KWRBT, and I am me... I think Serbian Army was just expressing some deeply held ideas which are totally wrong, but since he was educated in a foreign system I cannot hold it against him unless he acts on these incorrect ideas. I can accept that Russians and their satellites may hold a different view of America, and hopefully they will eventually understand why things happened like they did...
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Can we please all stop this unnecessary sniping? None of the people involved in this latest discussion are trolls. All are loyal JTFers. Now let's just move on, please.
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Can we please all stop this unnecessary sniping? None of the people involved in this latest discussion are trolls. All are loyal JTFers. Now let's just move on, please.
Yes sir!
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I like " JTFenthusiast" I just don't understand what happen to his other account? And why he said I was disrespectful? Also I'm wondering if Serbian armys account was hacked?
I never said you were disrespectful. I have always liked your comments. You do remind of another user whom I also liked a great deal. Unfortunately, he is no longer on this forum
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That verse does refer to gentiles.
dead wrong, lowlife. it refers to everybody. nowhere in the verse does it mention gentiles you lowlife piece of [blank].
EDIT: Removed obscenities. Keep it clean please!
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dead wrong, lowlife. it refers to everybody. nowhere in the verse does it mention gentiles you lowlife [blank].
Whoah... From one nightmare to another...
That language will most surely get you put in the time-out corner though...
This user is most obviously a troll, only 3 posts and suddenly this abusive post...
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I don't know who is a bigger piece of garbage, MBA or Ralph!
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dead wrong, lowlife. it refers to everybody. nowhere in the verse does it mention gentiles you lowlife piece of [blank].
You sure are butthurt, aren't you.
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Obviously Iran's nuclear program must have been hacked into once again and Ralph is peeved.